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    Default Metabiology .:. What the cell can teach us about the order of the universe

    Hi all! Since I left Ecuador I've put my head and heart into my journal, researching, and contemplating the divine cosmos/mechanics of the matrix. I've been going through old posts to find where concepts connect in order to build the framework for a book. I've been doing a lot of digging and refining of information and concepts.

    This post is sort of a quick run through of a hodgepodge of connected conceptualizations. I wonder what you all think? I know it's long, but any hangnails that stick out would be helpful if they were pointed out.

    This was just written as a flow right from my fingers... first draft so it may read weird in terms of structure and clarity! By the way, the entirety of this post may sound strange, and I have left out links to corroborating sources. In any case here we goooo...

    Alright, so the universe is a body of bodies. It is a hierarchy of nested cosms and enfolded dimensions. Each level is a distorted pattern of the prime pattern and within each level of this sublime fractal exist diverse populations of condensate that perform specific functions. The entire spectrum of these individual parts work together in order to maintain the processes that ensure the health of the system. It is multi-tiered, integral, and complex. Yet, it is not convoluted. The degrees of freedom and free will of these parts is incredible when you think about the function that they perform regardless!



    The entire solar system is a body. It has organs that clean and process the energies flowing in and out of its system. These organs are planets and moons. Each part is a macrocosm of the parts below it and a microcosm of the parts above it.

    Therefore the sun represents the organ of the heart of the solar system. In the systems below, the sun is connected with the heart of the brain, near the center of the vaulted chamber. In the systems above, the sun represents the nucleus of a galactic neuron. Similarly, all of the stars in a galaxy represent the nuclei of the neurons in a system of mind much more intelligent that we are. Yet, we reflect the whole because we are all holistic parts of this nested hierarchy. You are a stellar corpuscle in an interstellar network of divine proportions.

    The circulatory system of blood in the body is also represented here as it fits the pattern of mind. It too is a mind.

    The galaxy itself is a nucleus in the system above it. The entire cosmos is a fibrous mind of light and life. There is a wide spectrum of energies beyond what we can see or currently measure with the scientific instruments available today. Science knows it’s there; they call it dark matter and dark energy because they can’t see it. The great spiritual scientists, yogis, shamans, and occultists have seen it. They call it astral light, astral matter, etheric matter, dark sea of awareness, and so on. It also has its gradients and respective qualities of fineness. The spectrum stretches farther, wider, and deeper than the current scientific paradigm can allow for.

    These unseen energies are the basis for the structure of the physical universe that we can readily perceive. They are like the skeleton or scaffolding of the physical. Yet, their function and processes go far beyond that. The grandeur and beauty of the reality of their natures is a marvel to behold, even in concept. The entire spread of all these energies form a circulatory system of mind for the cosmic body of an emergent, synergistic intelligence that we would call God – it is the cosmos.

    The system that branches through this body relays light, life, radiant energy and information through its venous channels like nutrients, emotions and thoughts surf through the currents of our own bodies.





    It has a heart too, and within each measure of branch this heart is reflected. It is the monad. The mind grows from the heart. The soul is what contains it – the soul is a womb.

    There are many species of soul just as there are many types of cells in the body. Some souls are more specialized than others, although all are vital and important. They work together in concert. The souls of humans are particularly interesting. That’s you and me! Before we get to that, there are a few other things that need to be brought to light. Some of it may not be new, but it’s still fresh.

    Yes, the earth is alive and intelligent. At one level it is an organ in the body of the solar system, at another level it is the nucleus of a specific type of cell in the body of the galaxy, and at another level it’s a particle of an atom in the grandiosity of the totality. Let’s zoom back in because it’s about our perspective and our mission right here and right now (and that mission is a holistic piece of that grandiose totality!). Just beneath the level of the solar system, we have the earth itself as an entire body, not just an organ in a larger one.

    The earth has blood, organs, bones, cells, and a mind of its own. It has a soul, a spirit, and it is a sentient consciousness of which we are a privileged part.

    Long story short (heheh) it also has an immune system that is called into action when appropriate. Folks, it’s appropriate.

    There are forces of life and light underneath everything. It’s like the air of the universe, or like the soil of the earth – this is what’s beneath space. It’s a frothy foam which moves about with a predictability of the breeze from moment or with the randomness of waves jumping up and down in the middle of the ocean. In ways it is erratic, yet there is order to it at higher and lower levels.

    The order that rears its head is equal to the order of a storm forming out of the chaotic, interacting weather patterns of our environment. It’s an emergent property that arises from the chaosmos.

    On the other side of this coin is the shells of energy left over from where real life and light has come into and exited this experience.

    When the energy from the monad finally drains back into the point that links it to the Treasury of Light, it leaves a shell behind. This is the equivalent of a dead leaf on the ground. Except that this shell can be animated by the currents of this dark sea of awareness frothing in between space. Not only that, but these shells can come to be inhabited by the emergent consciousness that arises from the aforementioned foam of spiritual energy.

    This emergent consciousness is artificial in a sense. It is the child that passes through the darkness of the waters created from and within the shadows casted by beings with form as they play in the light. It was born of the shadows and plays an integral part within the system, but it must be checked because it is in a way the thing that stirs the muck and the densest parts of the light that has dimmed and fallen as sediment at the bottom of the ocean.

    At the same time, behind the mask of function exists the spiritual force that powers everything. But this artificial consciousness isn’t connected to it directly because it isn’t real in that way. It’s a shadow, it’s the moves as the collective refuse of forms long gone, it is pure ego. It does have its own volition but there is no way for it to evolve, and it doesn’t want to. It wants to collect and interfere – it is antidivine in every way, yet it helps to drive spiritual evolution. This is a purpose it will neither accept nor admit but it is a function that it can’t escape because it emerged to fulfill this very need. Nothing is without purpose and nothing can exist outside of the divine scheme. It is a force of Nature.

    This is the force behind asuras. Ignorance has its own effects and functions. The effects of this force are beyond ignorance though, they are a perversion of ignorance. They have no mechanisms within their character to check their effects, it’s potential is malignant if it’s allowed to actualize it will be. In some cases and places it does actualize and attempts to maximize its influence. These are its survival mechanisms – to grow, to control, to gain power, and to replicate and amplify itself. It’s like a virus and viral mechanisms tend to catalyze evolution, yet we wouldn’t hand our entire body over to a virus or it would kill our body. We have our own immune systems and counter mechanisms to dampen and thwart the desires of the virus.

    In doing this, the viral energy drives evolution away from itself and eventually back to the Source, but wherever it can sink it’s claws it will stall evolution and try to take for itself what it lacks and can never obtain. What it lacks is light and it is a shadow. A shadow can never attain light because it would then cease to be a shadow. Even so, it will try and try to pervert this logic and law of nature… it will try to bend, twist, and pervert the light to suit it’s antidivine desires. That is why there is no evolution for the asuras, they can only be converted.

    The film of organic life exists on planets to produce light. Organic life transmutes the energies of matter into more refined qualities. The spectrum of emotions produces this needed light in various gradients. The purest of these experiences and feelings is given to aid the Higher Will to experience. It’s these refined energies that are harvested by the mechanisms of the cosmos to continue to expand its awareness of itself, enrich its experience, and satiate its curiosity and thirst for knowledge and love.

    The refined energies are used as plaster for the weave of channels that carry the purest aspects of this love and light throughout the cosmic system. Everything goes back to source through the heart, through the center and it’s then pumped back out. It’s a continuous flow of inhalation and exhalation.

    The energies are attracted up by typically by the moons of the system, and from there they help to cast new shoots or sprouts like growing neurons. Transmissions between these bodies and the sun (or any star, acting as nuclei for interstellar neurons) help to facilitate communication of information and energy while forming new connections. This is what our own brains are patterned after.

    The organisms on a planet act as cells do for the body -- they help to convert, store, and transmit information and energy throughout the body.

    As was said before, there are many species of cells just like there are many species of souls. Humans have souls that are supposed to perform a very specific function, like very specialized cells.

    There is an entire ecosystem out there that can interact with the bodies and souls of planets and people alike. Among the wildlife of energies are predatory and parasitical energies. They are only nessecary and arise in certain systems. Certain systems have been tainted and affected by the artificial consciousness described above. Our system is one of them.

    It infiltrated and infected another planet/organ in our solar system. The organic humanoids of that planet were infected as well; there are physical and psychic symptoms of this infection. Anyways, they ended up destroying their planet which is now strewn across the band between Mars and Jupiter – it is now the asteroid belt.
    The souls of that planet were directed here to Earth by the natural spiritual mechanics of the system. The malignant energy that infected that planet has also migrated here. It is a planetary hitchhiker, known in some occult circles as the Eighth Sphere. This dark sphere arose on account of that malignant force.

    There is a highly advanced, sophisticated technology that is an integral part of all of this. Just like our very DNA and cellular mechanisms act as highly advanced machines that house our conscious spirit/mind (ie body)/soul complex! As technology progresses it shrinks and more closely mirrors nature. Highly advanced technology would be indistinguishable from nature (and magic). The spirits and forces associated with nature are more advanced and intelligent that any scientist in a physical body could ever be, that doesn’t mean that our technological developments can’t act as a thorn in the side of higher intelligences.

    Technology is their nature, it’s the most advanced and sophisticated that any technology can be because its operating spiritual forces. These highly evolved entities are corroborating with the source of creative energy, nothing is outside of their limits. Anything that lacks this intimate connection with, and knowledge of, this creative energy of Source can only hope to approach the level of sophistication involved in the Reality of Nature. The lower intelligences may approach, but they will never reach because if they attain they will no longer be who they were -- like a shadow that wants the light.

    A sophisticated system, intelligently designed, has been put in place around the Earth (around Gaia) on account of the infection. It’s divided into seven levels. These are the levels of what is known as the astral plane. It’s part of the quarantine.

    The astral plane acts like a water filtration system. Each layer exists as varying degrees of density so to speak. Once water passes through the last filter, it’s of the purest quality required by the system to exit. We are dealing with energies here though, and souls.

    This system, the astral plane, acts like the kidneys or the liver of the body. It cleans the blood, which in this case would be the light and love that is allowed to flow into the system.

    The cosmos doesn’t want blood infested with antigens or malignant energies because it can and will affect other systems of planets downstream.

    The planet has its own immune system and will purge itself of any energy detrimental to the overall health of its body. The problem is that when it does that energy will be ejected into the larger system to some degree. There is also the possibility of that malignant energy hijacking the replication mechanisms of the planet like a virus and making copies of itself, enough to rupture the cell like cytolysis, sending those copies into the life stream.

    At the level of the cell it’s called cytolysis, at our current level it would be a civilization destroying the planet by warfare or killing it by pollution and other means. The pattern is the same but manifests itself in ways unique to that particular level in the holoarchcy. This cytolysis did happen elsewhere here and it resulted in the asteroid belt as mentioned before.

    This crippled the entire system to an extent; it knocked planets out of their ideal orbits and axes of rotation. Therefore, higher forces of immunity have intervened here at Gaia, were the battle of the Powers of Light and those of darkness is still very much ongoing.
    Gaia was, and still is, a very special planet. It carries a lot of important information with it like a single cell carries the information of the whole body inside its own DNA.

    Its become even more interesting due to the spiritual antigen that has attached to it. It affects all life here, physically and subconsciously. That’s why what is going on here is such a spectacular show for those who are from other systems and have heard about what’s going on here. An antigen calls antibodies to it and signal all sorts of responses from the immune system.

    The difference is we aren’t existing perceptually at the level of chemicals and molecules. This immune response elicits spiritual forces, specialized souls, and fantastical counter mechanisms from beyond what we consider real. It is very real, and marvelous!

    The physical Earth itself has automatic responses to invasive, cancerous energies. Just like your body will give itself a fever to fight off infection, so too will Gaia. Global warming is a fever. She will melt her ices to baptize herself, to purify and purge herself. It’s an immune response. There is meaning in everything, there is purpose in the events of every moment.

    If indeed all the planets are heating up because of the sun, this too would be part of an immune response. The solar system is a body and has an organ in ruins and one that is now infected. There are intelligent spiritual energies within the sun and the planets. It wouldn’t be a coincidence if a solar flare where to strike the earth at the peak of humanities building and development of technologies. It would be directed. Is it a coincidence that doctors try and target cancer with radiation? Except they misunderstand and misapply the cause of the disease and the nature of light with regards to treatment. Still, the metaphor stands because we are dealing with intelligences much more advanced than our own.

    The patterns are everywhere you look. This information is alive, it moves and works because it exists and expresses itself through the processes of nature. It evolves through the understanding and symbols of the subconscious so that it will suit an evolving mind and be recognized through whatever cultural climate it arises in. It’s everywhere.

    These are the flood stories of ancient religion. Religion is a longing of lost memories (thanks Cayce!).

    Human cultures rise on global scales and the infection of our soul and psyche eventually flares up, this elicits an immune response from Gaia until the manifested illness is crippled and suppressed.

    The soul is compelled (and forced in some cases) to reincarnate to work out it’s karma and sins. You probably cringed at those words, and I agree with your detest of the religious connotations attached to those terms. Those terms have been used to control and pervert. They are terms bound to an outdated belief system. Really, it’s just deprogramming what this viral energy has programmed. We are part of the cleansing mechanism for the polluted energy here.

    The lower levels of the astral planes are populated with different kinds of energies, and different species of souls. There are hyperdimensional beings that got caught in the quarantine, some were native to the Earth and some were not. Some were affected by the malignant energy, and some were not. There’s an entire ecosystem up there and entire civilizations exist within its dimensions. It’s all connected as part of a bodily system.

    The astral technologies put into place perform a certain function just like a computer does. The computer itself isn’t bad or good, it’s just a tool. It depends on who is using it, or what is inhabiting the technology that matters. Even the moon has been augmented.

    Oh, and one last thing. Before “the fall” of the primordial Man (an androgenous spiritual being, just like cells are androgenous!) the water was purer in a way. The Earth is covered in mostly salt water, your body is mostly salt water. Why? There is meaning in that. Crystalline structures are everywhere in life and Earth. There is a malignant energy here, like a planetary hitchhiker.

    To cleanse a crystal you put it in salt water. There are no coincidences!

    Related threads:

    AI Presence in the Universe: ET and ED Influences

    Hyperdimensional Beings, Evolution, and Sri Aurobindo

    Anamnesis: The Patterns of Light and Life

    The Psyche: Metaphors of Meaning

    And the opening post of this thread- Kybernetes: Physics and the Psychic Flame

    The research is ongoing and there are no conclusions because there cannot be. What you understand one day you will overstand the next day if you keep moving forward. One persons ceiling is another persons floor. We must keep climbing.

    The truth is not something that can be contained or held. It moves and therefore it can only be followed. We must keep moving forward.

    Love you all ~ thanks for being a part of this forum, I'm really glad that this place is here for us to connect and explore. !
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    As above so below. You are connecting and seeing the natural. Here is something for your thoughts....



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    Nice journal structure there Jeffrey - i would think you could do a chapter on each of those paragraphs to expand upon them.. welcome back.

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    Hey Jeffrey, good to hear from you. Quite a piece here... and hints of a literary work in progress? Very nice!

    First a quick note of an editorial nature;

    Quote [...] it’s potential is malignant if it’s allowed to actualize it will be.
    I found this sentence part to be somewhat confusing (perhaps it's just me, but may need revision). It is in the paragraph beginning with "This is the force behind asuras."

    Now, more to the content of the material, I think this part caught my attention the most;

    Quote Technology is their nature, it’s the most advanced and sophisticated that any technology can be because its operating spiritual forces. These highly evolved entities are corroborating with the source of creative energy, nothing is outside of their limits. Anything that lacks this intimate connection with, and knowledge of, this creative energy of Source can only hope to approach the level of sophistication involved in the Reality of Nature. The lower intelligences may approach, but they will never reach because if they attain they will no longer be who they were -- like a shadow that wants the light. 

    A sophisticated system, intelligently designed, has been put in place around the Earth (around Gaia) on account of the infection. It’s divided into seven levels. These are the levels of what is known as the astral plane. It’s part of the quarantine.
    Do I understand you correctly, that most of the above refers to the supranatural/metaphysical/higher-dimensional immunological responsive energies/forces/entities at work here (and 'lower intelligences' referring to the so-called 'virus')? Would this imply that the 'quarantine' in place will inevitably succeed?

    I suppose I would take some small issue with the notion that "nothing is outside of their limits"; not because I think it is incorrect, but because of the questions it seems to raise. Why/how was the infection allowed to go so far as to result in the asteroid belt? Why employ a lengthy quarantine, rather than simply cleanse/convert the 'virus' outright?

    Furthermore, I like your analogy between the 'fliers' (not a term used here, but clearly synonymous to the 'artificial' construct/consciousness/shadow) and viruses. However, I feel that viruses and virus-like artificiality does not (or cannot) possess any true will or desire. Rather, I see these as being driven in an almost automated sense, performing a function in a truly unconscious manner. Certainly, it is more complex than literal microbial viruses, as they deal with energies and souls/consciousness. Even so, it seems like a decent comparison.

    I've often wondered if there are no true 'archontic' beings, but rather various intelligent souls driven astray, compromised by what has been referred to in the past as 'wetiko'...

    Also, I'm curious about your take on the 'star seed' idea, or if you believe in that possibility. There are a few excerpts from your OP above which seem to imply as much, but I'd be interested to hear any elaboration on that.

    Anyway, great work so far. Looking forward to more!

    All the best to you my friend.
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    Awesome read there Jeffery.
    the mutli-leveled nature of reality is hard to do just to with words, but that was a good job at it.

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    Quote Posted by Freed Fox (here)
    Hey Jeffrey, good to hear from you. Quite a piece here... and hints of a literary work in progress? Very nice!

    First a quick note of an editorial nature;

    Quote [...] it’s potential is malignant if it’s allowed to actualize it will be.
    I found this sentence part to be somewhat confusing (perhaps it's just me, but may need revision). It is in the paragraph beginning with "This is the force behind asuras."
    Freed! Hello

    As johnf pointed out, it's hard to do with words, language is a bottleneck to expressing what's represented by the conceptual symbolism of the intuition.

    The symbolism is how the subconscious interprets, the language is a distortion of that. It scrambles it.

    Language itself is actually a symptom of the infection! Music and sound go hand in hand with light in terms of creation, but the languages we have today are fractured.

    Bill pointed out to me during one of the conversations we had that as we learn a language we begin to think in the language. In other words, the language begins to shape our thoughts, and therefore we are inhibited with regards to how we think because of the governing principles of syntax and idioms embedded in the language. Its a programming tool, it programs our thought processes and is a huge bottleneck!

    The tower of babel and the mixing of languages/sounds/reprogramming tech represents the introduction of introns/jumping genes within our DNA, it scrambles the knowledge and the signal. So, the tower of babel then becomes the tower of transposable elements.



    The results have trickled down to our system of communication by language. Language is a virus as William Burroughs would say.

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    His cut and paste ideas reflect the introns within our own genome. Its all connected!

    The force emerging out of chaos has the potential to become malignant. It will become malignant if allowed the space to operate. Ignorance provides this space for this force to actualize it's potential. The ignorance didn't cause it and it didn't arise out of ignorance. It perverts ignorance and Aurobindo remarks that the perversions arise from asuric forces, he states that these hostile forces are antidivine and have meddled with the natural evolution of humans and the earth.

    He postulates that if it were only ignorance present in our evolutionary path, things would be much different. But hostile forces have interfered and perverted the mind and the ego. Twisting the ignorance into what many would call evil.

    Quote Posted by Freed Fox (here)
    Now, more to the content of the material, I think this part caught my attention the most;

    Quote Technology is their nature, it’s the most advanced and sophisticated that any technology can be because its operating spiritual forces. These highly evolved entities are corroborating with the source of creative energy, nothing is outside of their limits. Anything that lacks this intimate connection with, and knowledge of, this creative energy of Source can only hope to approach the level of sophistication involved in the Reality of Nature. The lower intelligences may approach, but they will never reach because if they attain they will no longer be who they were -- like a shadow that wants the light.

    A sophisticated system, intelligently designed, has been put in place around the Earth (around Gaia) on account of the infection. It’s divided into seven levels. These are the levels of what is known as the astral plane. It’s part of the quarantine.
    Do I understand you correctly, that most of the above refers to the supranatural/metaphysical/higher-dimensional immunological responsive energies/forces/entities at work here (and 'lower intelligences' referring to the so-called 'virus')? Would this imply that the 'quarantine' in place will inevitably succeed?
    Yes, that's what I'm thinking. The "barriers" that separate the levels of the astral plane were intelligently designed and exist as part of a quarantine implemented by an intelligence that utilizes an ethereal technology that is beyond our comprehension.

    I think the geomagnetic field of a planet that harbors organic life acts as a natural barrier, like the semipermeable membrane of a cell. Etheric energies emanating from that organic life will naturally stratify and the energies of the highest quality will be able to permeate the membrane.

    Viruses utilize tricky methods to sneak in and out of a cell, therefore the natural barrier of the planet wasn't enough. Even more so since the systems is a tad out of whack with the planets out of alignment etc.

    So, higher intelligences utilizing technology that reflects the knowledge of the entire system, working in concert with creative forces of nature, has been put in place to augment the planets natural immune system. It is part of a spiritual matrix.

    The spiritual antigen also employs a technology of sorts, far more advanced than our own. This is going to sound weird, but it's as if there's illusions created by reality/nature and then there's illusions made artificially that mimic natural illusions of light. It's almost as if there's a fake light being employed as a form of camouflage and trickery.

    It's like this: we can create with our astral bodies, the creations are illusions that cooperate within the context of certain agreements made. Participants make these agreements like rules in a game meant and created by the participants to learn, expand their awareness, and gain experience. The creations are just like holograms in a way, but they are natural illusions. They are fluid and watery from what I understand. This is what is astral. Now, the false illusion is what I would call, abstractly, cyber. Like I said, it's kind of strange.

    Organic life is created as a part of this play of light and frequencies. The rules are built in to geometric shapes and are "enforced" by the limited ways in which these geometries can interact. Many more degrees of freedom, and a bending of the rules, can happen with less dense matter in terms of energy. Astral light/matter (ie dark matter) has many more possibilities and degrees of freedom than the denser physical matter in which we seem to be stuck in! ha!

    Anyways, this system can be hacked and it was. Our DNA functions as a transceiver and can tune into the broadcast from the server controlling the game. This is the Earth. When the gnostic texts say that the archons cast their seed in the navel of the Earth, they hacked the server so to speak.

    This next part is based on observation and on the precept of as above so below. The earth has a center like a cell has a nucleus. Similarly, just like the genetic material exists in the nucleus, so too does the templates for organic life exist within the crystalline structures within Gaia. It’s from here that the morphogenetic field is broadcasted. The DNA of individual species receives and distorts the signal in whatever way is appropriate for it’s specific form, which is contained in it’s own genetic material.

    The archons cast their seed into the navel of the earth. In other words, they somehow interfered with the signal by modifying it with their own programs. This, I think, is one of the effects of the Eighth Sphere – an unnatural sphere. The archons were then able to create their own version of humans that resembled the originals. Our souls entered into their modeled forms. Look at our genome, more than half of it is made up of endogenous retroviruses. It’s been scrambled and modified by viral mechanisms.

    The energies originally intended to be harvested to grow the divine system are partially redirected (or are attempting to be) to further the agenda of the spiritual antigen/planetary hitchhiker. We are serving two masters in a way. What I mean is that our DNA is tuning into two separate broadcast systems. It's a stressor.



    They’ve made their destiny with us (our souls) and we are here to help rectify the deficiency as part of an immune response. We were called down here and so we fell.

    The effects of their influence are also in the astral planes. In conjunction with these cyber illusions so to speak is the beneficial technology of the filtering mechanisms that were set in place. Overall, the entire astral plane as we know it is an unnatural place by the way it came about in the system. But it’s there.

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    [1]I suppose I would take some small issue with the notion that "nothing is outside of their limits"; not because I think it is incorrect, but because of the questions it seems to raise. Why/how was the infection allowed to go so far as to result in the asteroid belt? Why employ a lengthy quarantine, rather than simply cleanse/convert the 'virus' outright?

    [2]Furthermore, I like your analogy between the 'fliers' (not a term used here, but clearly synonymous to the 'artificial' construct/consciousness/sha) and viruses. However, I feel that viruses and virus-like artificiality does not (or cannot) possess any true will or desire. Rather, I see these as being driven in an almost automated sense, performing a function in a truly unconscious manner. Certainly, it is more complex than literal microbial viruses, as they deal with energies and souls/consciousness. Even so, it seems like a decent comparison.

    [3]I've often wondered if there are no true 'archontic' beings, but rather various intelligent souls driven astray, compromised by what has been referred to in the past as 'wetiko'...

    [4]Also, I'm curious about your take on the 'star seed' idea, or if you believe in that possibility. There are a few excerpts from your OP above which seem to imply as much, but I'd be interested to hear any elaboration on that.

    Anyway, great work so far. Looking forward to more!

    All the best to you my friend.
    [1] I would think that it has to do with free will. The universe is incredibly huge, especially when we consider enfolded dimensions and parallel realities! I think that these more advanced immune responses have their own free will as well in a sense. It could be that they are actually highly advanced beings/civilizations that have evolved out of bodies and utilize this highly sophisticated technology with the knowledge of the mechanics of the divine system.

    It could be that the situation was simply unattended at first due to the strength of the natural systems itself, and maybe these types of situations happen all over the place (John C Lilly mentioned that the Solid State Intelligences were far more abundant than the organic intelligences in the physical universe).

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    Even though the system is ordered, it's still wild out there. Many, many processes and interactions... at least as many as our own bodies, which exist within a subsystem of a larger ecosystem ... really wild.

    After the catastrophe of the asteroid belt they took notice? I'm not quite sure.

    [2] I completely agree! Aurobindo and Steiner both say that the hostile forces thrive on the ego and unconsciousness. I agree that they lack a will in a certain sense. I think it's that they lack a center/monad in a metaphysical sense. Minds with no center. Like the internet sort of... a mind with no center.

    [3] I'm in awe of the ecosystem of energies out there and all of the exotic species of souls. If the proportions hold true for matter/dark matter, then we could assume that it's five times as diverse and populated as the physical universe (which itself alone is unfathomably huge and rich with physical life).

    Also, the term archons comes from a word meaning authorities or governors. Kybernetes also means governors and it's where we got the word cybernetics! Hmmm... An interesting perspective on wetiko and elementals can be found in Kyle Griffith's War in Heaven.

    [4] I think that once a soul is able to get into the lifestream of the universe, it can ride the currents where ever it want to go. It may feel compelled to go to certain places, it's like red blood cells travelling throughout the body, or a thought travelling with a synapse. Extremely interesting.
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    Very good friend.

    I enjoyed the large context you entered.

    A giant cosmic brain , is how I describe briefly in the following.




    We are one of the cellular memories of an entity that encompasses everything and everyone?

    Or little thoughts that entity left to develop?

    In this case I think we need to be new ideas.

    Thanks.

    Hug.

    Naste.
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    Quote Posted by Jeffrey (here)
    Viruses utilize tricky methods to sneak in and out of a cell, therefore the natural barrier of the planet wasn't enough. Even more so since the systems is a tad out of whack with the planets out of alignment etc.

    [1] So, higher intelligences utilizing technology that reflects the knowledge of the entire system, working in concert with creative forces of nature, has been put in place to augment the planets natural immune system. It is part of a spiritual matrix.

    [2]The spiritual antigen also employs a technology of sorts, far more advanced than our own. This is going to sound weird, but it's as if there's illusions created by reality/nature and then there's illusions made artificially that mimic natural illusions of light. It's almost as if there's a fake light being employed as a form of camouflage and trickery.

    It's like this: we can create with our astral bodies, the creations are illusions that cooperate within the context of certain agreements made. Participants make these agreements like rules in a game meant and created by the participants to learn, expand their awareness, and gain experience. The creations are just like holograms in a way, but they are natural illusions. They are fluid and watery from what I understand. This is what is astral. Now, the false illusion is what I would call, abstractly, cyber. Like I said, it's kind of strange.
    Alright, uhh, so, wow, heheh. This whole thing, everything, all of it is incredible. Many people may know this already. The thing is that most of the stuff out there isn't that integral, it's all compartmentalized in a way and the differing terminologies exist within separate ideologies of mere pieces of the bigger picture and all of it's intricately interconnected processes! I'm really blown away and it's very exciting to be here now. We all have a mission here and the depth and scope of who and what we really are is truly amazing.

    Let's introduce some testimony!

    [1] This idea isn't new, actually this epiphany came after a lot of reading, reasoning, observation, and feeling ... I went back into the material to see if I had missed something. Well, I did! This information has been there, it just didn't mean anything to me before, so it got skimmed over and rested in my subconscious until I was ready to face it's meaning. That's not important though haha. Okay, so the book it's in is "Astral Dynamics" by Robert Bruce -- a well respected title. Check this out.
    The surface of an astral plane is two-dimensional and covered with perfectly straight horizontal and vertical grid lines. This makes for a uniform checkered appearance over the entire surface.

    Each square on a surface contains a brilliantly multicolored geometric design, repeated endlessly in every other square. The surface of each astral plane has its own unique pattern, completely different from that of any other astral plane's surface pattern.

    Each astral plane appears two-dimensional when its surface is approached. However, a fully three-dimensional environment is experienced when this is penetrated.

    Each astral plane also contains connections with every other primary astral plane. These connections appear in the colors and patterns of the surface skin.

    [...]

    The surface of an astral plane is magnificent and awe-inspiring to behold. These structures are absolutely beyond compare in their artistic, crisp, and colorful beauty; their enormity and grandeur; and their spectacular awe-inspiring power and deep mystery. I am certain that they are logically and intelligently designed structures, much too geometrically neat and intelligently functional to be merely accidental or natural. They appear to have been designed by an intelligence far beyond ours.

    [...]

    The structure of the astral planes appears to filter and hold all energetic reflections generated by the thoughts, awareness, and perceptions of all living beings, including inanimate matter and life forms not generally considered to contain consciousness.

    [...]

    Reflected energies of consciousness, radiated into the astral planes from the physical dimension, have many forms, positive and negative, each with many subtle variations. The reflected energy contained within the astral planes originates from raw primal consciousness energy, conditioned by the minds from which they have emanated. The subplanes and lesser realms within each astral plane are parts of an extremely complex energetic filtration system. I can think of no other way to describe the mind-boggling complexity of this process.
    Source: Astral Dynamics

    [2] Now this one is sort of sticky... sort of. It really is an interactive hologram, all of it is a play of energies in the form of sound and light. These vibrations interact in a manner that creates geometries that further interact, but it's a hologram. This is literally a matrix-like reality. Okay, check this out, it's from Robert Monroe! It's when he discovers the emitter or aperture from which the light of the hologram comes. Yes.
    The Aperture is just ahead. It will open soon. Beside it you can perceive the Emitter for the energy beam that creates what you call the dream […] the hologram would be a better term.

    [...]

    The physical universe, including the whole of humankind, is an ongoing creative process. There is indeed a Creator. Who or what this Creator is lies beyond the Emitter and the Aperture, and I have not been there. Therefore, that part I do not know. Not yet. All I have is the overwhelming experience in the ray near the Emitter, and of the evolving creative process as it takes place in this world and myself.

    [...]

    Aperture – Entry point into the beyond, the source of the creative force that organized our physical universe.
    Source: Ultimate Journey

    Do you know what this is?! It's the Ray of Creation! This ray arises in some form at all levels of creation. There isn't only one, since every level of the holoarchy is patterned in a similar fashion (like fractals). Gurdjieff speaks of this Ray. It comes from the creative power of Source.

    It's split into Seven Rays just like a prism splits a beam of white light into the seven main colors of the visible spectrum. The concept of the Seven Rays of Creation are everywhere. This is everywhere-ness (?) is illustrated by Theosophy.
    Blavatsky wrote in the first book of The Secret Doctrine of an " analogy between the Aryan or Brahmanical and the Egyptian esotericism" and that the "seven rays of the Chaldean Heptakis or Iao, on the Gnostic stones" represent the seven large stars of the Egyptian "Great Bear" constellation, the seven elemental powers, and the Hindu "seven Rishis." She stated that the seven rays of the Vedic sun deity Vishnu represent the same concept as the "astral fluid or 'Light' of the Kabalists," and that the seven emanations of the lower seven sephiroth are the "primeval seven rays," and "will be found and recognized in every religion."

    In the second volume of the Secret Doctrine, Blavatsky discusses the "seven nervous plexuses of the body" and the seven rays they radiate, stating that this principle is found in the Rig Veda, in the mythology of Ahura Mazda, in the beliefs of the Incas, the Chinese Yao, and the Egyptian Osiris, who "when he enters the ark, or solar boat, takes seven Rays with him." She describes the "seven wise ones" of the Veda as "the seven Rays which fall free from the macrocosmic centre".

    [...]

    In the third volume of the Secret Doctrine, published posthumously, Blavatsky described the "Seven Primeval Rays" as a group of celestial beings also known as "Gods" or "Angels" or "Powers". She stated that this symbolism was "adopted later on by the Christian Religion as the 'Seven Angels of the Presence.'"

    In Theosophy, the seven rays are said to be seven major types of Light-Substance (spirit/matter) (waves/particles) that compose the created universes. These are also believed to convey "Divine Qualities".

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_rays
    And guess who else can offer even more insight than Monroe and Blavatsky? Yep, Carlos Castaneda.... Now that's a powerful trio! Nobody has weaknesses, only gaps in knowledge and little patches of lack. Well guess what? Those are docking ports for other peoples strengths! That's part of what makes this forum so powerful. So, reading all of these sources of material with that in mind provides a strong platform on which to climb for a better view of what's going on and where we are going with this subject.

    Robert Monroe speaks of emitters and apertures, Theosophy notes the common thread of Seven Rays, Gurdjieff talks about the Ray of Creation ... Castaneda calls them the great bands of emanations.
    He added that in order for me to see another world I had to perceive another great band of the Eagle's emanations.

    He then brought his explanation to an end. He said that he had no time to elaborate on the subject of the great bands of emanations, because we had to be on our way. I wanted to stay a bit longer and keep on talking, but he argued that he would need a good deal of time to explain that topic and I would need fresh concentration.

    [...]

    "For seers it means that there are forty-eight types of organizations on the earth, forty-eight types of clusters or structures. Organic life is one of them."

    "Does that mean that there are forty-seven types of inorganic life?"

    "No, not at all. The old seers counted seven bands that produced inorganic bubbles of awareness. In other words, there are forty bands that produce bubbles without awareness; those are bands that generate only organization.

    [...]

    "The same situation is prevalent in the inorganic bands. The three bundles of awareness produce specific kinds of inorganic beings in each of the seven great bands."

    I asked him to elaborate on the kinds of inorganic beings that existed.

    "That is another thing that you must see for yourself," he said. "The seven bands and what they produce are indeed inaccessible to human reason, but not to human seeing."
    Castaneda's account is the deepest because it admits the intricate complexity of it all. There's a plethora of different bands that interact in different ways to produce and create realities for a multitude of types of consciousness.

    As I understand it, organic life pertains to physical life and the species of souls associated with it. This isn't a strict rule (as there can be inorganic physical life), but there's a lot to sort out and not just on this particular point. Seven bands, seven rays, seven chakras, seven astral planes...

    That's just for our solar system, the organization and manifestation may be unique to each star. WOW.

    Anyways, another meaningful note ...
    Now the prime parent Yaldabaoth, since he possessed great authorities, created heavens for each of his offspring through verbal expression - created them beautiful, as dwelling places - and in each heaven he created great glories, seven times excellent. Thrones and mansions and temples, and also chariots and virgin spirits up to an invisible one and their glories, each one has these in his heaven; mighty armies of gods and lords and angels and archangels - countless myriads - so that they might serve.
    These heavens were designated for each of the seven androgenes that the chief archon created. Seven heavens, seven astral planes.
    He hated his father, the darkness, and his mother, the abyss, and loathed his sister, the thought of the prime parent, which moved to and fro upon the waters. And because of his light, all the authorities of chaos were jealous of him. And when they had become disturbed, they made a great war in the seven heavens. Then when Pistis Sophia had seen the war, she dispatched seven archangels to Sabaoth from her light. They snatched him up to the seventh heaven. They stood before him as attendants. Furthermore, she sent him three more archangels, and established the kingdom for him over everyone, so that he might dwell above the twelve gods of chaos.

    Now when Sabaoth had taken up the place of repose in return for his repentance, Pistis also gave him her daughter Zoe (Life), together with great authority, so that she might instruct him about all things that exist in the eighth heaven. And as he had authority, he made himself first of all a mansion. It is huge, magnificent, seven times as great as all those that exist in the seven heavens.
    The eighth heaven is outside of the quarantine. Check this out.
    Now when Adam of Light conceived the wish to enter his light - i.e., the eighth heaven - he was unable to do so because of the poverty that had mingled with his light. Then he created for himself a vast eternal realm. And within that eternal realm he created six eternal realms and their adornments, six in number, that were seven times better than the heavens of chaos and their adornments. Now all these eternal realms and their adornments exist within the infinity that is between the eighth heaven and the chaos below it, being counted with the universe that belongs to poverty.
    Adam of Light could not get out of the last level of the quarantine/filtration system because his Light wasn't pure enough. Obviously there are some gaps and a lot more up for discussion.

    I know there are some of you out there that read the Nag Hammadi Codices... try re-reading some of it with the material in mind that is outlined in this thread and let me know what comes out.....
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    Very good friend.

    I enjoyed the large context you entered.

    A giant cosmic brain , is how I describe briefly in the following.




    We are one of the cellular memories of an entity that encompasses everything and everyone?

    Or little thoughts that entity left to develop?

    In this case I think we need to be new ideas.

    Thanks.

    Hug.

    Naste.
    Thanks for your post and the links!

    I think that the DNA is memory, living memory that continually recreates what we are based on what we have been. There's an astral component to DNA and this astral component interfaces with the physical. I feel like one of the major problems with this psycho-spiritual antigen (that affects the physical) is that we have forgotten when/why/how it happened and how things were before the fall. Its because the memories have been scrambled and hidden.



    On top of that they've been smothered by disinformation and the memory itself has a quality of aliveness to it, and it hides from us. It doesn't want to be found or examined because that would mean that it gets processed and cleared, freeing us from a large part of it's effects because WE KNOW then what it really is. We remember what has been dismembered! In Dianetics this would be called as-is-ing and it goes away, disappearing like a shadow gets dissolved by light, full awareness clears and cleans because the awareness is then allowed to flow through an area that was blocked before by certain mechanisms (ie implants) and it loses it's charge ... but that's just terminology for the concept. It's the concepts that overlap. We are a body of bodies, just like the universe, as above so below (thanks Thoth!).

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    The mind part of the virus is hiding in the mixing (transposons, remember that DNA is intimate with memory and there's an astral component) because it gets replicated and recreated as long as it's hitching a ride and hiding in the shadow of the ego (ignorance gives it the space it needs to operate). We are just so used to the symptoms that we've mentally integrated a chronic condition as being part of us... its not! Its counterfeit.

    Asuric forces lack a center/a monadic principle and viruses lack a nucleus... minds with no center, memories with no center! They are connected. Viruses implant memories and a virus has an astral counterpart as well. Memories are alive and need a medium in which to live, that medium is the mind, heck the mind is made of memories and the entire cosmos is built like a mind. So in a way we are all interactive memories. Castaneda remarks that the predators gave us their mind, they gave us their memory (it's alive, it's aliiive) and mixed it all up to hide amid the confusion, the chaos. Strange to think about.
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    Jeffrey im glad your back..and are working again.eager to observe and read as you flesh out an important part of the cosmic..puzzle??..truth..??This work and path seem to resonate with me...an immune response..feels so true.
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    Planets are glial cells for the interstellar neurons of which the stars the nuclei. Oh Swedenborg would love this!
    Glial cells, sometimes called neuroglia or simply glia, are non-neuronal cells that maintain homeostasis, form myelin, and provide support and protection for neurons in the brain and peripheral nervous system.

    [...]

    Neuroscience currently identifies four main functions of glial cells:
    1. To surround neurons and hold them in place
    2. To supply nutrients and oxygen to neurons
    3. To insulate one neuron from another
    4. To destroy pathogens and remove dead neurons.
    For over a century, it was believed that the neuroglia did not play any role in neurotransmission. It was only in 2010 that it was recognised that the glial cells do have some effects on certain physiological processes like breathing,[2][3] and in assisting the neurons to form synaptic connections between each other.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroglia#Types
    This is the pattern of the these cells in the physical brain. At levels above the pattern is the same, but the parts and the variables are different. The landscape of the level at which the pattern is operating looks different too. It's just like a fractal, same core algorithm, yet uniqueness at every level. Self similarity, as above so below.

    The planets are like glial cells and perform similar functions for a larger system of mind. These are components of interstellar neurons! Each planet is a unique type of glial cell and performs a slightly different function.
    Some glial cells function primarily as the physical support for neurons. Others regulate the internal environment of the brain, especially the fluid surrounding neurons and their synapses, and nutrify neurons. During early embryogenesis glial cells direct the migration of neurons and produce molecules that modify the growth of axons and dendrites.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroglia#Types
    I'm thinking that the film of organic life and astrosomes on planets act to nourish the neurons while the moons of the planets work to modify the growth of axons and dendrites. That's just on one level though. On a galactic scale, the stars are like moons orbiting the central mass of the galaxy and thereby modify the growth of axons on a larger scale. It also appears that the moons of the planets function as siphons in a way and transmit the energies to other celestial bodies of the system based on what kind of energy they are. It's a mechanical process, but it's intelligent, alive and spiritual. Free will is integral and the whole thing is nothing short of miraculous.

    Remember the "seven" theme of the last post? Well, their are seven types of glial cells, known collectively as neuroglia. This idea is going to sound weird (hehe) but these are like the seven archangels Gabriel, Michael, Raphael, Uriel, Raguel, Remiel and Saraqael. These seven beings are known as different names through the different religions and spiritual doctrines. These are specialized types of souls just like the brain has specific, specialized cells that perform certain functions for the body. Well the body of Gaia, physical and etheric, has it's specialized beings (like cells). Same kind of pattern, it's everywhere.

    They are beings made of an etheric plasma, which is the kind of mind they have. The cell has it's own mind which is the cytoskeleton, it transports information throughout the cell. It's a nest of branched filaments just like plasmas branch and weave. As mentioned, they are specialized and very important for the system to function properly, they have their roles so to speak.

    Their are two types of neuroglia in the brain -- microglia and macroglia. These archangels (as they are sometimes called) function like macroglia, only higher and much more sophisticated. This is where science and spirituality meet.

    These are the macroglia of the brain: Astrocytes, Oligodendrocytes, Ependymal cells, Radial glia, Schwann cells, Satellite cells, and Enteric glial cells. They all perform certain duties. The body of Gaia is much more sophisticated than our own bodies, much more advanced. They also have certain functions in immune responses.

    The first four macroglia are those that are specific to the central nervous system. Similarly, it could be that they are patterned after the higher principles of the four main Archangels or the four Great Kings which have patterns above them as everything is an emanation of something higher. The functions within the zoom of the fractal are self similar, but they may look different and they operate within systems of different order yet with the same pattern or modality (?).

    Look at the beginning of the post, the planets themselves serve as neuroglia at that level of being (the star being like a nucleus of an interstellar neuron). So the seven powers of the seven archangels all have planetary associations!

    Quote It's from a book entitled, "Atom and Archetype: The Pauli/Jung Letters, 1932-1958."

    Yes, Wolfgang Pauli and Carl Jung -- very cool.

    "The psyche…as a medium participates in both Spirit and
    Matter. I am convinced that it (the psyche) is partly of a material
    nature. The archetypes, for example, are Ideas (in the Platonic sense)
    on the one hand, and yet are directly connected with physiological
    processes on the other; and in cases of synchronicity they are
    arrangers of physical circumstances, so that they can also be
    regarded as a characteristic of Matter (as the feature which imbues it
    with meaning)." (pp. 100-01)

    -Carl Jung
    Oh my gosh Carl you are so right haha synchronicity then functions like the frequencies and processes of cell signaling! Holy cow

    Dooooown the rabbit hole...... can you imagine the progress that would be made if these sciences came together? Neurophysiology and astronomy, psychology and physics, biology and geology -- getting metaphysical here
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    Creativity time! Here's some more interesting thoughts and correlations.

    Alright, so remember in the Nag Hammadi codices when the higher intelligences "allowed" the chief archon to create his own modified versions of humans in order to capture the higher soul essences of the collective primordial man (androgenous)? Hold on, I'm going to go dig it up...

    aaand I'm back. So it's slightly different than that, but it insinuates that the higher powers of creation would let the chief archon do this because in reality he was sowing his own fate as it's his energies that would be transmuted and brought to dissolution through his modelled forms by the True essences inhabiting them (ie our true selves/souls). Here's the reference text from, On the Origin of the World (/System):
    And all this came to pass according to the forethought of the prime parent, so that the first mother might bear within her every seed, being mixed and being fitted to the fate of the universe and its configurations, and to Justice. A prearranged plan came into effect regarding Eve, so that the modelled forms of the authorities might become enclosures of the light, whereupon it would condemn them through their modelled forms.

    Source: http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html
    So they did become enclosures of light, as the modified bodies are our physical bodies, and the Light is the real you. Welcome! You were meant to be here, you were meant to be (and dance). We are rectifying the deficiency here. It builds up, the pressure of this malignant force, the energies of this hitchhiker. It's like the shadow self of the planet in a way. We act, in part, to release the pressure and it's up to us as individuals to correct the error we have taken on ourselves. This is our own shadow self, it's part of a larger whole (planetary hitchhiker). So we as a species act as transmuters, this is the inner alchemy. What I think happens is that we forget this and it's a difficult mission. This neglect collects and the pressure builds since it's density can't escape the filtration system/astral plane that's part of the quarantine.

    On account of this build up and the symptoms of this build up (wars, raping resources, secular technological developments on a global scale, rampant growth, etc...) the planets immune response becomes activated. I think we are approaching that activation. Global warming fever, baptism by water (flood stories), then by fire (solar flares, unusual plasma activity in the atmosphere). It's happened before and it's thereby cyclical. It will continue to happen until the charge is cleared and the hitchhiker is dissolved by the Light.

    Okay, so I think our souls function in a way similar to what's known as an antigen-presenting cell. It's part of an immune response process known as antigen presentation. There is a whole family of these cells. I think our souls, as they are functioning now, act as a member of that family, as a part of an immune response. Check this out.
    Antigen presentation is a process in the body's immune system by which macrophages, dendritic cells and other cell types capture antigens and then enable their recognition by T-cells.

    The basis of adaptive immunity lies in the capacity of immune cells to distinguish between the body's own cells and infectious pathogens. The host’s cells express “self” antigens that identify them as such. These antigens are different from those in bacteria ("non-self" antigens) or in virally infected host cells (“missing-self”). The ability of the adaptive immune system to survey for infection requires specialized pathways of enabling recognition of pathogen-derived antigens by T cells.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigen_presentation
    Interesting terminology there, ay? The major problem has to do with victim mentality and it's based on an ingrained paradigm --> We've become infected. Well, yes but actually it's us that latched on to the antigen once it entered the system. This is a part of our power. It's in the system, but it's our soul that captured it! Take that infection, prepare to face the Light!

    This "marker" that our soul has latched onto is the counterfeit spirit. It's mentioned in the Nag Hammadi, but it's specifics can be found in the Pistis Sophia. That was the pre-arranged plan spoken of in the referenced text at the beginning of this post. The chief archon was trying to trap the Light by creating his own modified bodies. The higher powers of creative intelligence said, "Shh we'll just let him do it" because they know about how this immune system works and how it fights back foreign invaders! Again:
    And all this came to pass according to the forethought of the prime parent, so that the first mother might bear within her every seed, being mixed and being fitted to the fate of the universe and its configurations, and to Justice. A prearranged plan came into effect regarding Eve, so that the modelled forms of the authorities might become enclosures of the light, whereupon it would condemn them through their modelled forms.

    Source: http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html
    Dark forces, you have been targeted and now you're stuck. It's time to clean house. Woohoo! hahahahahahahaha

    feels like this...
    Then, when the seven rulers came, they saw him and were greatly disturbed. They went up to him and seized him. And [the chief ruler] said to the breath within him, "Who are you? And whence did you come hither?" It answered and said, "I have come from the force of the man for the destruction of your work."
    WE have come forth for the destruction of your work
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    Here's the antigen presenting cell that I think the human soul is functioning as right now. We are like microglia. The Archangels are the types of macroglia (see above post about the archangels and macroglia, seven types or patterns yet many bodies for each type), and we are microglia. Check it out.
    Microglia are a type of glial cell that are the resident macrophages of the brain and spinal cord, and thus act as the first and main form of active immune defense in the central nervous system (CNS).

    Microglia constitute 10-15% of the total glial cell population within the brain. Microglia (and astrocytes) are distributed in large non-overlapping regions throughout the brain and spinal cord. Microglia are constantly scavenging the CNS for plaques, damaged neurons and infectious agents. The brain and spinal cord are considered "immune privileged" organs in that they are separated from the rest of the body by a series of endothelial cells known as the blood–brain barrier, which prevents most infections from reaching the vulnerable nervous tissue.

    In the case where infectious agents are directly introduced to the brain or cross the blood–brain barrier, microglial cells must react quickly to decrease inflammation and destroy the infectious agents before they damage the sensitive neural tissue. Due to the unavailability of antibodies from the rest of the body (few antibodies are small enough to cross the blood brain barrier), microglia must be able to recognize foreign bodies, swallow them, and act as antigen-presenting cells activating T-cells. Since this process must be done quickly to prevent potentially fatal damage, microglia are extremely sensitive to even small pathological changes in the CNS. They achieve this sensitivity in part by having unique potassium channels that respond to even small changes in extracellular potassium.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microglia
    The blood-brain barrier is the astral plane filtration system, or maybe the astral plane barriers were created to augment this a natural blood brain energetic barrier (geomagnetic field) for the larger system (solar/star system, then galactic, then cosmic).

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    Hi, Jeffrey!

    Glitch alert: the images you've attached to this fascinating thread don't seem to display..... neither on IE nor Chrome. "X" instead.

    Wonderful to see you posting this.

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    Thanks, Selene! and hello

    It's showing up on different browsers and different devices on my end. They are all images from here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Thousand-Words

    And I can empathize with your interest!

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    Well, I dunno. Is anyone else having this display problem?

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    Lost me here, but I'm not a techie....I'll try to report this. Please stand by....

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    Well, I get small 'broken image' icons for the following:

    3 on post #1 (though I'm positive at least one or two of those were initially visible, yesterday)
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    Jeffrey, this is good reading but to give you a thorough feedback i need a full afternoon to read your many thesis

    However, by giving a quick glance, I had a strong feeling that you are putting too much emphasis on the astral. For example, Blavatsky describes the 7 planes and 7 rays, but in other aspect, she may have erred.

    My answer would take a thesis too, wich is very long. Let me read this coming week end and we may find a way to communicate that would save us both some time.

    However, i know nothing of scientology and nothing of some more stuff you know. But we will see. I am prety sure about my feeling on the weight you give to the astral. You are right for what is happening now, for most humans, but it has to be viewed with another point of view, a meta view.

    Anyhow, many thanks for your thinking.

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    Thanks for taking the time to read it Flash!

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    Okay, so here's another interesting correlation in line with the theme of this thread.

    In Gnosticism they refer to a being known as Anthropos, Protanthropos, and Deuteranthropos.

    Anthropos is the pure ethereal mind and therefore it represents the "mind conceived hypostatically as emanating from God and not yet darkened by contact with matter." It is the non-physical mind emanating straight from Source and it is the pattern by which the physical form follows. Anthropos is a cosmic element of mind, the highest pattern. It's like the mind of God, or the mind of the highest pattern of God with form.

    Protanthropos is the original Man. This is an androgenous being and is still non-physical. It is an emanation of Anthropos and reflects it's pattern. Protanthropos is the Adam Kadmon of the Kabbalah. Protanthropos represents the "Son of God". See the metaphor?
    Adam Kadmon is a phrase in the religious writings of Kabbalah meaning "original man". The oldest mainstream rabbinic source for the term Adam ha-Ḳadmoni is Numbers Rabbah x., where Biblical Adam is styled, not as usually Ha-Rishon ("the first"), but "Ha-Kadmoni" ("the original"). In Kabbalah, Adam Kadmon ("above") is the first of the comprehensive Five spiritual Worlds in creation, distinguished from Biblical Adam Ha-Rishon ("below"), who included within himself all future human souls before the sin of the Tree of Knowledge. The spiritual realm of Adam Kadmon represents the sephirah (divine attribute) of Keter ("crown"), the specific divine will and plan for subsequent creation.

    In the Lurianic systemisation of preceding Kabbalah, the anthropomorphic designation for Adam Kadmon describes its arrangement of the latent future sephirot in the harmonised configuration of man. However, Adam Kadmon itself is divine light without vessels, including all subsequent creation only in potential.

    [...]

    Protanthropos is the first element; the fundamental being before its differentiation into individuals.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kadmon
    Alright, so that's Anthropos and Protanthropos. Deuteranthropos is the differentiation into individuals. It is the "Son of Man", or the son of the Primeval Man (Protanthropos). It's the denser mind that has sunk into matter. The mind and soul function as a unit.

    Blavatsky, Mirra Alfassa, Sri Aurobindo, and Carlos Castaneda have all seen these beings. The terminology used is specific to Gnosticism but it's referring to a universal concept.

    The concept is illustrated here by Blavatsky:
    This will be pooh-poohed, because it will not be understood by our modern men of science; but every occultist and theosophist will easily realize the process. There can be no objective form on Earth (nor in the Universe either), without its astral prototype being first formed in Space. From Phidias down to the humblest workman in the ceramic art — a sculptor has had to create first of all a model in his mind, then sketch it in one and two dimensional lines, and then only can he reproduce it in a three dimensional or objective figure. And if human mind is a living demonstration of such successive stages in the process of evolution — how can it be otherwise when Nature’s Mind and creative powers are concerned?
    Here's what's really cool and where this fits into this thread.

    These emanations all act like stem cells, but on a much higher level!
    Stem cells are undifferentiated biological cells that can differentiate into specialized cells and can divide (through mitosis) to produce more stem cells. They are found in multicellular organisms. In mammals, there are two broad types of stem cells: embryonic stem cells, which are isolated from the inner cell mass of blastocysts, and adult stem cells, which are found in various tissues. In adult organisms, stem cells and progenitor cells act as a repair system for the body, replenishing adult tissues. In a developing embryo, stem cells can differentiate into all the specialized cells—ectoderm, endoderm and mesoderm (see induced pluripotent stem cells)—but also maintain the normal turnover of regenerative organs, such as blood, skin, or intestinal tissues.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell
    See how this fits into the concept of Gaia being a body? (along with the body of the solar system, galaxy, universe) ... The functions and patterns are similar. As above, so below.

    A stem cell has properties and functions that equate it with the highest emanation of mind from source. They can become anything! They can change into whatever form is needed to perform certain functions (or in this case to experience reality from an infinite array of possible configurations of mind).



    Just imagine how many "cell" types is in the body of the cosmos as a whole!

    Progenitor cells would be the spectrum of templates for various species of souls and minds so-to-speak. So protanthropos then acts like a progenitor cell in the body.
    A progenitor cell is a biological cell that, like a stem cell, has a tendency to differentiate into a specific type of cell, but is already more specific than a stem cell and is pushed to differentiate into its "target" cell. The most important difference between stem cells and progenitor cells is that stem cells can replicate indefinitely, whereas progenitor cells can divide only a limited number of times. Controversy about the exact definition remains and the concept is still evolving.

    [...]

    Progenitor cells are found in adult organisms and they act as a repair system for the body. They replenish special cells, but also maintain the blood, skin and intestinal tissues. They can also be found in developing embryonic pancreatic tissue.

    [...]

    The majority of progenitor cells lie dormant or possess little activity in the tissue in which they reside. They exhibit slow growth and their main role is to replace cells lost by normal attrition. In case of tissue injury, damaged or dead cells, progenitor cells can be activated.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progenitor_cell
    The correlations with the prototype of the soul is more than fascinating! Protanthropos, the progenitor cells! These are spiritual beings that are called into action and fall into matter when they are needed! When they are needed by the immune system and for repair! We are helping to rectify the deficiency!

    Here's an account from The Mother (Mirra Alfassa) about her encounter with what I think is the protanthropos.
    Well, one time I was there (Theon used to warn against going beyond this domain, because he said you wouldn’t come back), but there I was, wanting to pass over to the other side, when – in a quite unexpected and astounding way – I found myself in the presence of the ‘principle,’ a principle of the human form. It didn’t resemble man as we are used to seeing him, but it was an upright form, standing just on the border between the world of forms and the Formless, like a kind of standard. At that time nobody had ever spoken to me about it and Madame Theon had never seen it – no one had ever seen or said anything. But I felt I was on the verge of discovering a secret.

    Afterwards, when I met Sri Aurobindo and talked to him about it, he told me, ‘It is surely the prototype of the supramental form.’ I saw it several times again, later on, and this proved to be true.

    [...]

    And all those who have had a direct contact with the past, had the memory of a kind of human prototype -- far superior to the present humanity -- who came on earth as an example and a promise of what humanity will be like when it reaches its acme.

    Source: http://mother-agenda.narod.ru/Agenda_2/1961-11-07.htm
    Extremely similar to progenitor cells. Gaia is a spiritual being, the earth is a body. The solar system is a body, the galaxy, the entire cosmos (with form) is a body made up of bodies. Beautiful and intricate, wonder-full.

    The following excerpts are from the book, Fire from Within, by Carlos Castandena.
    "What's the mold of man?" I asked.

    [...]

    "The mold of man is a huge cluster of emanations in the great band of organic life," he said. "It is called the mold of man because the cluster appears only inside the cocoon of man."

    [...]

    He gave me a detailed explanation of what the mold of man was. He did not talk about it in terms of the Eagle's emanations, but in terms of a pattern of energy that serves to stamp the qualities of humanness on an amorphous blob of biological matter. At least, I understood it that way, especially after he further described the mold of man using a mechanical analogy. He said that it was like a gigantic die that stamps out human beings endlessly as if they were coming to it on a mass-production conveyor belt. He vividly mimed the process by bringing the palms of his hands together with great force, as if the die molded a human being each time its two halves were clapped.

    He also said that every species has a mold of its own, and every individual of every species molded by the process shows characteristics particular to its own kind.

    He began then an extremely disturbing elucidation about the mold of man. He said that the old seers as well as the mystics of our world have one thing in common, they have been able to see the mold of man but not understand what it is. Mystics, throughout the centuries, have given us moving accounts of their experiences. But these accounts, however beautiful, are flawed by the gross and despairing mistake of believing the mold of man to be an omnipotent, omniscient creator; and so is the interpretation of the old seers, who called the mold of man a friendly spirit, a protector of man.

    He said that the new seers are the only ones who have the sobriety to see the mold of man and understand what it is. What they have come to realize is that the mold of man is not a creator, but the pattern of every human attribute we can think of and some we cannot even conceive. The mold is our God because we are what it stamps us with and not because it has created us from nothing and made us in its image and likeness. Don Juan said that in his opinion to fall on our knees in the presence of the mold of man reeks of arrogance and human self-centeredness.

    They have seen, therefore, that what we call God is a static prototype of humanness without any power. For the mold of man cannot under any circumstances help us by intervening in our behalf, or punish our wrongdoings, or reward us in any way. We are simply the product of its stamp; we are its impression. The mold of man is exactly what its name tells us it is, a pattern, a form, a cast that groups together a particular bunch of fiberlike elements, which we call man.

    [...]

    Suddenly, I heard don Juan's voice in my ear. He said that I had to go beyond the mold, that the mold was merely a stage, a stopover that brought temporary peace and serenity to those who journey into the unknown, but that it was sterile, static. It was at the same time a flat reflected image in a mirror and the mirror itself. And the image was man's image.

    I passionately resented what don Juan was saying; I rebelled against his blasphemous, sacrilegious words. I wanted to tell him off, but I could not break the binding power of my seeing. I was caught in it. Don Juan seemed to know exactly how I felt and what I wanted to tell him.

    "You can't tell the nagual off," he said in my ear. "It is the nagual who's enabling you to see. It is the nagual's technique, the nagual's power. The nagual is the guide."

    It was at that point that I realized something about the voice in my ear. It was not don Juan's, although it sounded very much like his voice. Also, the voice was right. The instigator of that seeing was the nagual Juan Matus. It was his technique and his power that was making me see God. He said it was not God, but the mold of man; I knew that he was right. Yet I could not admit that, not out of annoyance or stubbornness, but simply out of a sense of ultimate loyalty to and love for the divinity that was in front of me.

    As I gazed into the light with all the passion I was capable of, the light seemed to condense and I saw a man. A shiny man that exuded charisma, love, understanding, sincerity, truth. A man that was the sum total of all that is good.

    The fervor I felt on seeing that man was well beyond anything I had ever felt in my life. I did fall on my knees. I wanted to worship God personified, but don Juan intervened and whacked me on my left upper chest, close to my clavicle, and I lost sight of God.

    [Side note: If Castandena were a woman then the mold would've been perceived as a feminine-natured luminous being. Castandena details this the link to the material.]

    Source: http://aquakeys.com/toltec/book/export/html/352
    It's mostly dormant and static, but it's alive and radiant. It's the prototype of the supra-mental form. It functions like a progenitor cell. It is protanthropos and it's what we differentiated from at this level of perception. Its the raw potential of infinite being with us all.
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    This is where science and spirituality meet. Wanting to understand the soul? It mirrors the physical body. Wanting to understand the physical body? It can be deduced by the soul. They are of the same patterns. The physical is patterned after the non-physical and they mirror each other.

    Quote Posted by Jeffrey (here)
    Anthropos is the pure ethereal mind and therefore it represents the "mind conceived hypostatically as emanating from God and not yet darkened by contact with matter." It is the non-physical mind emanating straight from Source and it is the pattern by which the physical form follows. Anthropos is a cosmic element of mind, the highest pattern. It's like the mind of God, or the mind of the highest pattern of God with form.

    Protanthropos is the original Man. This is an androgenous being and is still non-physical. It is an emanation of Anthropos and reflects it's pattern. Protanthropos is the Adam Kadmon of the Kabbalah. Protanthropos represents the "Son of God". See the metaphor?
    Adam Kadmon is a phrase in the religious writings of Kabbalah meaning "original man" [...] Biblical Adam is styled, not as usually Ha-Rishon ("the first"), but "Ha-Kadmoni" ("the original"). In Kabbalah, Adam Kadmon ("above") is the first [...] distinguished from Biblical Adam Ha-Rishon ("below")

    In the Lurianic systemisation of preceding Kabbalah, the anthropomorphic designation for Adam Kadmon describes its arrangement of the latent future sephirot in the harmonised configuration of man. However, Adam Kadmon itself is divine light without vessels, including all subsequent creation only in potential.

    [...]

    Protanthropos is the first element; the fundamental being before its differentiation into individuals.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kadmon
    Alright, so that's Anthropos and Protanthropos. Deuteranthropos is the differentiation into individuals. It is the "Son of Man", or the son of the Primeval Man (Protanthropos). It's the denser mind that has sunk into matter. The mind and soul function as a unit.

    Blavatsky, Mirra Alfassa, Sri Aurobindo, and Carlos Castaneda have all seen these beings. The terminology used is specific to Gnosticism but it's referring to a universal concept.

    [...]

    Here's what's really cool and where this fits into this thread.

    These emanations all act like stem cells, but on a much higher level!
    Stem cells are undifferentiated biological cells that can differentiate into specialized cells and can divide (through mitosis) to produce more stem cells. They are found in multicellular organisms. In mammals, there are two broad types of stem cells: embryonic stem cells, which are isolated from the inner cell mass of blastocysts, and adult stem cells, which are found in various tissues. In adult organisms, stem cells and progenitor cells act as a repair system for the body, replenishing adult tissues. In a developing embryo, stem cells can differentiate into all the specialized cells—ectoderm, endoderm and mesoderm (see induced pluripotent stem cells)—but also maintain the normal turnover of regenerative organs, such as blood, skin, or intestinal tissues.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell
    See how this fits into the concept of Gaia being a body? (along with the body of the solar system, galaxy, universe) ... The functions and patterns are similar. As above, so below.

    A stem cell has properties and functions that equate it with the highest emanation of mind from source. They can become anything! They can change into whatever form is needed to perform certain functions (or in this case to experience reality from an infinite array of possible configurations of mind).



    Just imagine how many "cell" types is in the body of the cosmos as a whole!

    Progenitor cells would be the spectrum of templates for various species of souls and minds so-to-speak. So protanthropos then acts like a progenitor cell in the body.
    A progenitor cell is a biological cell that, like a stem cell, has a tendency to differentiate into a specific type of cell, but is already more specific than a stem cell and is pushed to differentiate into its "target" cell. The most important difference between stem cells and progenitor cells is that stem cells can replicate indefinitely, whereas progenitor cells can divide only a limited number of times. Controversy about the exact definition remains and the concept is still evolving.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progenitor_cell
    The correlations with the prototype of the soul is more than fascinating! Protanthropos, the progenitor cells!

    [...]

    It's the prototype of the supra-mental form. It functions like a progenitor cell. It is protanthropos and it's what we differentiated from at this level of perception. Its the raw potential of infinite being with us all.
    Anthropos – Adamas, cosmic mind before matter -- Paramatma, related to the Ajna (third eye) Chakra.

    Protanthropos – Adam. Son of God, Primeval Man -- Atman, related to the Anahata (heart) Chakra.

    Deuteranthropos – The Son of Man. With faults, differentiated -- Jivatma, related to the (root) Muladhara Chakra.

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    WOW! Alright, this next part is really cool!

    This is a part of the anatomy of the soul. The ancient yogis and rishis described a yoni-lingam complex at the base of the spine, one in the heart chakra, and one in the brow chakra. These ancient yogis, the authors of the Vedas and Upanishads, were scientists. They were inner scientists dissecting the anatomy of the spiritual world and examining the mechanics of the soul.

    Itara Linga – Ajna Chakra – Knowledge – Level of Creation: Causal world
    • White Linga, filled with purity and clear consciousness.
    • The Itara Linga is connected to the Knot of Rudra. When this knot has been unraveled, one gains the androgyn state, with universal joy.
    • The seed mantra is Om. In Ajna one perceives Om, the primal vibration, the source of of which creation happened.

    Bana Linga – Anahata Chakra – Action – Level of Creation: Subtle world
    • Red Linga or gold in color, as it is filled with fiery, psychic energy
    • Bana Linga is connected to the Knot of Vishnu. When this knot has been unraveled, one perceives the existence of a universal life principle.
    • The seed mantra is Yam.

    Svayambhu Linga – Muladhara – Will or Desire – Level of Creation: Physical world
    • Black Linga, filled with physical energy.
    • The Svayambhu linga is the self creating linga of the physical world.
    • Connected to the Knot of Brahma which is the door or gate that closes the Royal Path. When the Knot of Brahma has been unraveled, one feels connected to the totality of the universe.

    Source: http://www.soul-guidance.com/houseofthesun/tantra.htm

    These are all creation centers. For the physical world, we use the power of creation given by the linga-yoni complex in the root chakra. This is what we are used to. We use this power to create physical copies of bodies by procreation.

    We are CREATORS. The other centers with these complexes are used to create on the respective levels. There is a subtle creation center and a causal one.

    How does it work? Well, there is a mechanism in cells that follow the pattern on the lower physical level. These are centrosomes! These three complexes associated with the mentioned chakras in the soul act like centrosomes! Centrosomes are patterned after these higher functions.



    The reticulation of mind grows from the center. The fibrous network of filaments grows from the center. Centrosomes create the microtubles and microfilaments that make up the cytoskeleton of the cell. The cytoskeleton acts like a mind for the cell, not only does it provide structural support, but it also participates to relay information throughout the cell.

    Here's where the real creation mechanism overlaps. During mitosis.

    When a cell is creating a copy of itself during replication, the centrosomes migrate to opposite sides of the cell. They create the spindle fibers that connect to and work to pull apart the replicated genetic material, so each new cell gets a full array of chromosomes.

    CREATION. The metaphor applies to higher levels.

    I think a similar mechanism is used by the heart center in the soul. The Bana Linga complex acts like part of a centriole. This process was how we created offspring before the fall into physical bodies.

    There is also a complex in the Ajna chakra that plays a role in creating within the causal plane. That's the idea anyways. Some more contemplation is needed to fill in the gaps, but I was just blown away by the similarities.

    The three linga-yoni complexes act like centrosomes do in a cell and play a key role in creation in their respective planes of being.



    It get's even more interesting relating to the kundalini, these three linga complexes (and all the main chakras), and the Bindhu Chakra. Next post.....
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