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    Default Russell Brand's Revolution: Interview with Owen Jones - Full Length | Guardian Live Dec 2014 ( Strong language)..

    This is a very good discussion and Russell explains his views about many things and
    talks about his past , addiction and other subjects . If you can get past his flamboyant ,
    lyrical rhetoric and strong language there is loads of content and common sense ideas.


    CAUTION......SPONTANIOUS STRONG LANGUAGE AT TIMES........


    Russell Brand's Revolution: Interview with Owen Jones - Full Length | Guardian Live

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    I did post a 15 min segment of this talk a few weeks ago if some bits seem familiar ..

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Guardian-Live


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    Listening to Owen Jones interviewing Russell it was obvious he was an activist himself
    so I wondered what his views were and found this presentation he gave about corporate
    elites and more.....Very good summery of social power over the last century and how
    the elites always get to the top whatever the system, the establishment ends up
    corrupted by the corporate and other elites. There have been several attempts at
    real democracy and things are certainly better than our grandfathers in some ways,
    but modern 'serfdom' is alive and well governed by debt from 'cradle to grave'...



    Owen Jones - Who Runs the Country? Shady World of British Establishment - Dangerous Times Festival



    Published on 8 Jun 2014

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    Default Re: Russell Brand's Revolution: Interview with Owen Jones - Full Length | Guardian Live Dec 2014 ( Strong language)..

    This is why Russell cannot lead a modern media revolution with out public help
    as he is open to be set up. But you can also turn it around and say if you are
    trying to beat a system , some times you have to play them at their own game.
    What ever happens as I have pointed out many times and Russell has himself ,
    including the vid above he is an activist/campaigner not a potential political
    leader , as he says he is a narcissus show off with too many flaws , but is
    full of good intensions and is certainly putting himself on the proverbial
    'chopping block' so to speak , as always time will tell. Russell is a very
    easy target for TPTB to discredit and 'push off the wagon'. So don't look
    at him as a 'Messiah or leader just a 'media Savvy , ex street wise addict
    trying to put his voice to some social good.


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    There will be a lot more of this , if Russell get more traction with the public....................




    Russell Brand film on RBS bankers funded by City investors – including former RBS banker

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    Russell Brand film on RBS bankers funded by City investors - including former RBS banker

    Russell Brand's film about 'financial inequality' is largely funded by high net worth City
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    ‘When Russell Brand wanted to film himself confronting bankers about their bonuses,
    he chose to storm RBS, regarding the bank as the very embodiment of the capitalist
    system he so despises.

    But, not for the first time, Brand has left himself open to accusations of hypocrisy after
    it emerged the film company he set up is largely funded by City investors – including
    a former RBS banker.

    Brand raised almost £1 million by issuing shares in Mayfair Film Partnership Ltd, the
    production company making his next film, a documentary called Brand which will
    explore his ideas on the redistribution of wealth.’

    At least 11 of the 21 main investors in the company are current or former employees
    of banks or other financial institutions, while a 12th is a pension fund. They were all
    able to claim tax relief by offsetting the money they invested in the shares against
    their income tax, as part of a government scheme to attract investment in high
    risk start-up companies.

    Brand has repeatedly argued that bankers should pay more tax, and has blamed them
    for much of the trouble faced by society’s poorest in the wake of the financial crash.

    Mayfair is understood to have been set up to make a film called Happiness, which
    never got off the ground, before it switched its attention to the new film.

    Earlier this week Brand was accused of being a “bully” by an RBS back office worker
    after he and a film crew tried to get into an RBS office in London saying he was
    making a film about “financial inequality”.

    Joseph Kynaston Reeves, who found himself locked out with his lunch going cold after
    security staff locked the doors to keep Brand’s film crew out of the building, wrote a
    blog describing Brand as a “prancing millionaire” which became an internet sensation.

    Mr Kynaston Reeves pointed out that Brand, who is making his film with the director
    Michael Winterbottom, had picked the wrong building, as the traders he was targeting
    worked elsewhere. He also pointed out that Brand, with a personal fortune of between
    £9 million and £15m, was far wealthier than him or any of his colleagues.

    The biggest investor in Mayfair, with £225,000 of shares, is the Premier League footballer
    Wes Brown, while £150,000 of shares are held by a pension fund administered by the
    pensions firm Hazell Carr.

    Other major investors include a former head of international business at Danske Capital,
    with £100,000 of shares, and a managing director at JP Morgan Chase, with £50,000 shares.

    Fellow investors work or have worked at City institutions including Credit Suisse,
    Dresdner Kleinwort, Bank of Nova Scotia, Societe Generale and Peel Hunt.

    Under the Government’s Enterprise Investment Scheme, the investors were able to
    make their share purchase highly tax efficient.

    The EIS, brought in to help smaller high-risk companies to raise finance, enables individual
    investors to claim tax relief at 30 per cent of the cost of the shares, to be set against their
    income tax liability for the year in which the investment was made. At the time the shares
    in Mayfair were sold, the tax relief rate was set at 20 per cent.

    Wes Brown, for example, would have reduced his income tax bill by £45,000 in the year
    he bought his shares. Brand only owns 30 shares in the company.

    HM Revenue and Customs specifies that EIS tax reliefs “are not considered to be avoidance of tax”.

    Brand threatened to sue the Sun newspaper earlier this month after it accused him of
    hypocrisy for paying around £76,000 a year in rent for his London home to a company
    based in the British Virgin Islands.

    A spokesman for Brand said he was unavailable for comment.

    Meanwhile another of Brand's campaigns appeared to be paying dividends, as the US
    investors who planned to evict scores of families from the New Era estate in east
    London are on the verge of pulling out.

    Brand joined protestors against the plans by Westbrook Partners, which is now said
    to be close to selling the estate to an affordable housing provider.


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    Default Re: Russell Brand's Revolution: Interview with Owen Jones - Full Length | Guardian Live Dec 2014 ( Strong language)..

    I have a strong suspicion that Brand is an example of "controlled opposition". This is someone who is put out there by the elites or with approval of the elites who run things. This is done to make the dissatisfied population think there is someone who is speaking up for them. In the end, nothing changes and Russell Brand has a good time, experiencing all the adoration and applause. We will see if sometime in the future he gets a nice big pay off.

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    Default Re: Russell Brand's Revolution: Interview with Owen Jones - Full Length | Guardian Live Dec 2014 ( Strong language)..

    Quote I have a strong suspicion that Brand is an example of "controlled opposition". This is someone who is put out there by the elites or with approval of the elites who run things. This is done to make the dissatisfied population think there is someone who is speaking up for them. In the end, nothing changes and Russell Brand has a good time, experiencing all the adoration and applause. We will see if sometime in the future he gets a nice big pay off.
    That's exactly how they work in the UK it was Left Labour. Right Conservatives and
    the majority in the middle not sure who to vote for.Then there was the Liberal
    revival that was hijacked by Clegg and all three parties more or less morphed into
    one blurred elite ideology over the past decade or so. With the web people are
    seeing the divide between the class's come back as it was pre WW11 , only
    the mainstream media ignores it and reports of poverty are shrugged off by
    Parliamentary elites and corporate media.

    The corporate conveyor belt between politics and industry is unhealthy and seems
    even worse in the US , where they have been hijacked far more and seem to be
    run by their own royal elite of interbred related families. Even Obama is related on
    his mothers side to these bloodlines that have monopolised power in the US more
    or less since 1776 , but openly since Bush Snr......

    Nigal Farage UKIP will be backed by the same old 'Banksters' indirectly as will any
    party like the Greens ,that look like breaking thru, the same would be with Russell.
    But he knows he could not run , and is promoting alternate thoughts & ideas.Hes
    accused of telling people not to vote, but 60 odd percent did not vote in the last
    general election and that was nothing to do with him, Apathy has set in for
    decades. Which suits the establishment fine, as long as one of the tired old parties
    get in and it is business as usual behind the curtains, the Bilderbergers, and other
    corporate and secret societies that run the world are perfectly happy.
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    Default Re: Russell Brand's Revolution: Interview with Owen Jones - Full Length | Guardian Live Dec 2014 ( Strong language)..

    One of the inherent problems with Brand is that he has enough problems that he can be dismissed as controlled opposition, while he could be an honestly flawed bloke who (like many on this forum in particular) have gotten fed up.

    It's a tricky thing, determining who is sincere and sane in the 'game' of alternative information disseminating. Without guys like Morgan Freeman to narrate the viewer into a receptive trance, its hard to take anyone seriously or credible. Personally, I don't trust Brand, but neither do I distrust him as his efforts to date seem to be more efficacious than many "big names" in the emerging alternative "industry". Having said, I would neither rule out the 'controlled opposition' angle; for one I don't discount the means of "the opponent", and for two I don't disregard the potential that he - as an inherently (as we all are) flawed individual - is not subject to bias and agenda.

    My suggestion to all who might be reading is "Don't trust, but don't dismiss" this particular individual (Brand). If he rubs you the wrong way maybe its an insincerity, or maybe its his method of proactively addressing heroine addiction (he's far more level headed then some recovering H-addicts, I'll testify to that right NOW!).

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    Default Re: Russell Brand's Revolution: Interview with Owen Jones - Full Length | Guardian Live Dec 2014 ( Strong language)..

    Dance until we die!..( Strong Language).....

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