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    What most people refuse to understand, if not even acknowledge, is the extent to which the elites have an utter stranglehold on the world’s financial system, and by world we do not mean just the Western world. China and Russia are included.
    Not a few hold out the errant belief that the BRICS nations, primarily China and Russia, will replace the elite’s banking system.
    Absolutely not! The elites are redesigning the next phase of their control over the financial world to include the BRICS, all eager to join the “club” for the first time and be major participants on the financial world stage.
    The question is, will Russia make it before the Obama administration, under direct control of the elites, destroys the Russian economy? Perhaps a better question to ask is, CAN the elites take down Russia?
    Just as the United States, as a physical country was replete with so many natural resources, which have all had their existence sucked out of them, Russia has the most natural resources of the entire world, and the bankers want control over them.
    There is one big obstacle: Vladimir Putin.

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    An imminent collapse of the US fiat petrodollar? China and Russia, with their enormous
    build-up of physical gold over the last several years, waiting in the wings to lead a new
    gold-backed currency? The growing BRICS alliance to unseat the elite’s Western NWO
    and its banking system?

    A growing likelihood on the first question, and no and no to the latter two questions. In
    fact, the elites are probably doing more to destroy the fiat Federal Reserve “dollar” than
    any other group or alliance. There has been talk about the US destroying the dollar for
    at least the past four years. Kyle Bass even made the pronouncement whereby a senior
    Obama administration official told him, “We’re just going to kill the dollar.” That is
    exactly what is happening and coming from “inside information.”

    What most people refuse to understand, if not even acknowledge, is the extent to which
    the elites have an utter stranglehold on the world’s financial system, and by world we do
    not mean just the Western world. China and Russia are included. There is no single
    country that can exist without the machinations of the elite’s banking system. They have
    been running the world for a few hundred years and are masters at it.

    Russia has enough gold to back its ruble in some way. Understand that the current price
    for gold does not represent a fair standard of value. It is vastly undervalued, and one day,
    the reality of what should be a fair value for gold and silver will occur. They are both
    money and measures of value. Most people have reversed their thinking and measure the
    value of PMs by valueless fiat. This is a huge mistake and reflects how well the elites have
    successfully exercised mind control over the masses to maintain this false belief.

    The agenda for a New World Order is at least 100 years old, when bankers and corporate
    presidents were all aiming to control every aspect of industry via financial manipulation,
    straight from the well-established Rothschild “game book,” as it were. This unabated zeal
    for world control is not something that has been in the works for just the past several
    decades. Knowledge of this does not come from an announcement in the New York Times
    or Wall Street Journal; rather, one has to diligently read through a myriad of source
    material and then see how the dots are connected.

    In a nutshell, if the elites have their way, and to date they remain unopposed, the fiat
    Federal Reserve Note, aka the debt “dollar,” will be replaced with some form of a new
    international currency, or perhaps SDRs [Special Drawing Rights], an international
    basket of currencies. All money may exist as computer credits that can be readily
    tracked. If anyone dare oppose the bankers, poof, your credits just disappeared, and
    you have nothing. Bankers rely on debt largesse and fear.

    There will be no sovereign nations. All countries will be held accountable to the new
    Wizard Of OZ bankers behind the curtain, much like the experiment called the
    European Union. The EU may fall apart, but the lessons learned will not be lost, and in
    fact they will be honed to format what is to come. The handful of banking elite that
    rule the Western economies will become “elite-er”

    What of China and Russia? Both have advocated respect for the IMF with expressed
    desires to be participants in the system. The system will change, to be sure: no more
    Federal Reserve fiat “dollar” as the world’s reserve currency. Not a few hold out the
    errant belief that the BRICS nations, primarily China and Russia, will replace the elite’s
    banking system. Absolutely not! The elites are redesigning the next phase of their
    control over the financial world to include the BRICS, all eager to join the “club” for
    the first time and be major participants on the financial world stage.

    The question is, will Russia make it before the Obama administration, under direct
    control of the elites, destroys the Russian economy? Perhaps a better question to ask is,
    CAN the elites take down Russia? Just as the United States, as a physical country was
    replete with so many natural resources, which have all had their existence sucked out of
    them, Russia has the most natural resources of the entire world, and the bankers want
    control over them. There is one big obstacle: Vladimir Putin.

    If Putin had his way, he would kick the Russian Central Bank out of Russia. It was
    created, designed and controlled by the Rothschilds, so Putin has little control over it.
    The Russian central banking elite have been getting wealthy from their arrangement,
    and they are not about to give up their Golden Goose.

    If you want to understand why Obama has chosen to overthrow the sovereign Ukrainian
    government and replaced it with a puppet leader that has been conducting genocide
    against Russian loyalists in Eastern Ukraine, the Donbas area, it is a not-so-indirect
    [non]declaration of war. This has been followed up by another form of war via all the
    economic sanctions Obama has been strong-arming the EU to enforce against Russia
    to their own detriment. The US does not care, as long as it gets its way.

    Western bankers will not allow Putin to remove the Russian central bank, as he is trying
    to do. The elites have a 3-pronged attack against Putin: 1. military threat, [Russia is more
    than up to the task], 2. economic sanctions, [mostly backfiring and costing the EU more],
    and 3. Russian banker oligarchs who will do anything to oppose Putin in order to preserve
    their banker-criminal enterprise. With US history as a guide, presidential opposition,
    Lincoln, Garfield, Kennedy, and Reagan prove that assassinations have their effect and
    may not be out of the question.

    It is interesting to see the West [really just Wall Street banks] attack the ruble causing it
    to lose about 60% of its value relative to the fiat “dollar.”*** Will it succeed, or is Putin
    allowing the attack to push down the value of the ruble, and at the bottom rush in to buy
    as much as he can, using the sale of over-valued Treasury holdings owned by Russia? In
    the process, flooding the market with US bonds will put pressure on the fiat “dollar,” and
    viola, a reverse financial coup by Putin.

    ***Russia has less than $700 million in debt, the US has over $18 trillion; Russian debt is
    about 15% of GDP, the US runs at over 100% of GDP; Russia runs a budget surplus, the
    US runs a burgeoning deficit; Russia has gold to back it currency, the US now only has the
    military to back its fiat and increasingly widely shunned “dollar;” Russia has the largest
    natural resources in the world, the US has depleted or ruined most of its natural resources.
    With which of these two countries does the rest of the world want to conduct business?

    China is not in a position to have its renminbi become a world reserve currency, and that
    country has been announcing its support in becoming a stronger member in the IMF via
    participating in SDRs with its national currency. For China, it becomes a major world
    player and participates in a remake of the financial COMPOSITION [not replacement]
    of the existing world banking system.

    For the elites, it is a match made in heaven. The US, as a spent nation, gets dumped and
    China becomes a willing replacement in the pecking order. To what degree Russia is a
    participant remains to be seen. While China and Russia have become stronger trading
    partners, China is not above seeing Russia weakened to China’s advantage. All is never as
    it seems.

    2014 is ending unexpectedly for PMs, considerably weaker than what most thought would
    be sharply higher prices. Based on what the charts are conveying, at least the initial part
    of 2015 will not fare much better. Supply and demand are not the driving factors. World
    financial dominance is. A number of PM “experts” are not focusing on this aspect.

    If it has not yet become clear, seeing how the banking elites are attacking Russia, militarily
    and economically, willing to destroy that country, and seeing how the US is being used in
    its own self-destruction, willing to impose its military might and debt sabotaging of other
    nations, then those who cannot understand the process will never understand how gold
    and silver have become useful pawns in the service of the elite bankers and now how
    China is positioning itself to become the next United States as a world superpower. The
    role of Russia remains a question. The role of gold and silver is also a burning question.

    As to substantially higher gold and silver prices in the “great reset” scheme, it makes no
    sense for the still-in-control elites to allow PMs to be dramatically revalued too high.
    Neither gold nor silver will ever be allowed to compete with their fiat monetary system.
    We have no clue how gold and silver will ultimately be re-priced, nor do we think does
    anyone else, despite all the numbers being bandied about.

    What we know for sure is that the trend of any market is the most powerful and most
    influential force, and this week’s analysis of the PMs market is a simple fact-based one.
    It takes time and effort to change a trend. To whatever degree these market are being
    manipulated, even the manipulators eventually “show their hand” through price and
    volume activity. We see no change for prices remaining low, if not even making newer
    recent lows in the months ahead.

    It does not alter the view and necessity for the ongoing accumulation of the physical
    metals, for having them will be essential when the big “reset” finally hits. Time remains
    on the side of the buyers, but low prices may give way to higher premiums in order to
    keep the game alive.

    Last week, we wanted to see gold rally strongly on increased volume, taking out 1250 with
    ease. That did not happen and until it does, gold remains on the defensive and subject to
    staying at current levels. The longer gold stays at these levels, the greater the probability
    for another low.It remains to be seen if last week will become a higher swing low by holding or if price
    will continue lower. There is some evidence of support at last week’s low, but we do not
    need to know in advance if support will hold or fail. Instead, let the market confirm any
    potential strength, and then look for a buying opportunity. Keep in mind, while the overall
    trend remains down, any rallies are suspect in their sustaining power.

    Put into the same context as described for weekly gold, there is not much else to add for
    silver, and keeping it simple makes the most sense. There is nothing that addresses being on the long side for paper silver .

    When accepting the power of a trending market and not viewing it from a biased
    perspective anticipating “inevitably higher” prices, you can better see how developing
    market activity provides a clearer landscape for decision-making. It is not always so
    easy to take such a clinical look at the markets, but seeing how steps 1 through 4
    unfolded in a logical way is the best example of how to use market generated information.

    Silver is at point 4, a weak reaction. Unless or until there is evidence of a strong rally,
    supported by volume and upper range closes, a weak reaction, like this, will lead to lower
    prices in an effort to discover demand. The markets have worked this way for over a 100
    years.

    Posted on December 25, 2014 by The Silver Doctors
    http://www.silverdoctors.com/can-the...ke-down-russia

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    Default Re: Can the Bankster Elites Take Down Russia?

    you make no sense and obviously need to go back to high school or business school, or something...or jail...you are no longer existing in a logical reality. there is no such thing as the NWO or any ruling elite, nobody is in control but you and i and everyone else on earth. chill out and drink a beer, or smoke a bowl, then go to bed. ha.

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    Something a LOT of people keep getting wrong, including you. Is that Russia is NOT controlled by the Global Elites, they do NOT have a Central bank. This is part of why they're foaming at the mouth to have a war with Russia. And really they are stupid if they even really seriously make an effort to try. Putin is one of the best strategists on the planet, better than what the bankers have in their arsenal that's for sure. Plus Russia has a TON of advance weaponry, etc that could out fox anything even far above black that the US and their allies have.v

    Lol, though. Khyla really had a point, when he said when it comes down to it, this whole 'east 'vs' west' thing is a distraction, and doesn't matter. It's that old Wizard of Oz thing, keep the lower ones distracted, and engaged in wars, etc. And sneak in the back while no one else is looking and bam, take over. As it was, someone once said, the wars are part of an agreement the royals made with the reptilians, that as long as they kept the blood flowing, and wars, they wouldn't get ate or something insidious like that. And they would also become ''gods''.
    "Ignoring the evidence is simply another way of ignoring the truth."
    "Reality is always hard to accept whenever it is unpleasant. Our minds play tricks and tell us it just cannot be. Instead of accepting the truth as it is when it disturbs us, we try to deny its existence."

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    This brings to mind something that Simon Parkes said about what concerns him, which is that when the system really begins to crumble, what may happen is that a deceptive and dishonorable faction may be ready to take over before the White Hats have a chance to put their new plans into effect.
    He also said that Putin is allied with ETs who are much more pro-human than the ones the US is allied with.
    While I wouldn't call Putin a humanitarian, he does seem to be a good strategist, and doesn't back down so easily.
    ...Which is giving the banksters something real to contend with, and that doesn't appear to have been part of the Illuminati game plan.
    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    It's that old Wizard of Oz thing, keep the lower ones distracted, and engaged in wars, etc. And sneak in the back while no one else is looking and bam, take over. As it was, someone once said, the wars are part of an agreement the royals made with the reptilians, that as long as they kept the blood flowing, and wars, they wouldn't get ate or something insidious like that. And they would also become ''gods''.
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    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    Something a LOT of people keep getting wrong, including you. Is that Russia is NOT controlled by the Global Elites, they do NOT have a Central bank. This is part of why they're foaming at the mouth to have a war with Russia. And really they are stupid if they even really seriously make an effort to try. Putin is one of the best strategists on the planet, better than what the bankers have in their arsenal that's for sure. Plus Russia has a TON of advance weaponry, etc that could out fox anything even far above black that the US and their allies have.v

    Lol, though. Khyla really had a point, when he said when it comes down to it, this whole 'east 'vs' west' thing is a distraction, and doesn't matter. It's that old Wizard of Oz thing, keep the lower ones distracted, and engaged in wars, etc. And sneak in the back while no one else is looking and bam, take over. As it was, someone once said, the wars are part of an agreement the royals made with the reptilians, that as long as they kept the blood flowing, and wars, they wouldn't get ate or something insidious like that. And they would also become ''gods''.
    what makes you so sure this article is wrong, lets see your proof instead of just calling the kettle black , no facts you can present at all regarding such claims. All you can do is become vague in response. It's a point of view presented here open for a discussion. My perception is the same as yours that Putin is not part of this cabal anymore not to be factual as your claims "Something a LOT of people keep getting wrong, including you". Then to continue with the woo woo reptilian .....are you kidding me?. You may also want to reflect on your own advice "Ignoring the evidence is simply another way of ignoring the truth." as FYI They do still have a Central Bank
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_Russia
    http://www.cbr.ru/eng/
    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-r...-rates-2014-12
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post914786


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    you make no sense and obviously need to go back to high school or business school, or something...or jail...you are no longer existing in a logical reality. there is no such thing as the NWO or any ruling elite, nobody is in control but you and i and everyone else on earth. chill out and drink a beer, or smoke a bowl, then go to bed. ha.
    you can ignore reality but you can not ignore the consiquenses of ignoring reality HA HA lol
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    Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information, because anyone can write / edit the articles published on that site. Ok, so you know as well as I do, that Putin doesn't work with or ally himself or his country with the cabal. And central bank or not, it's still not one ran by the Feds / Global Elite. The article is not accurate, enough said. You might consider facts concerning the global groups involvement with ET ''woo-woo'' some of us happen to be aware of what's really going on around here. But, hey, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and opinions. I'll go look up the articles on their weaponry, but there isn't articles available for some of my knowledge I have, my sources don't publish articles for the general public or cabal even to 'find out'. Not how this 'war' is won, you don't hand over your play book to the enemy. Or even leave a copy laying around. That's bad strategy.
    "Ignoring the evidence is simply another way of ignoring the truth."
    "Reality is always hard to accept whenever it is unpleasant. Our minds play tricks and tell us it just cannot be. Instead of accepting the truth as it is when it disturbs us, we try to deny its existence."

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    Quote Posted by dosedneurons (here)
    you make no sense and obviously need to go back to high school or business school, or something...or jail...you are no longer existing in a logical reality. there is no such thing as the NWO or any ruling elite, nobody is in control but you and i and everyone else on earth. chill out and drink a beer, or smoke a bowl, then go to bed. ha.
    Oh yes, and where do you get your absolute knowledge from, who says there is not a new world order represented by the united nations aka the money groups behind America, city of London and the world bank? Why does the Bilderberg group meet each year in secrecy to dispense global strategies to the puppet leaders? Simply saying something does not exist is not sufficient, it may make you feel all chilled out and on top of the game - but pretty rude really.

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    Well said, Galaxy Horse.

    And to put it another way, from my signature, that quote:
    "Reality is always hard to accept whenever it is unpleasant. Our minds play tricks and tell us it just cannot be. Instead of accepting the truth as it is when it disturbs us, we try to deny its existence."
    "Ignoring the evidence is simply another way of ignoring the truth."
    "Reality is always hard to accept whenever it is unpleasant. Our minds play tricks and tell us it just cannot be. Instead of accepting the truth as it is when it disturbs us, we try to deny its existence."

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    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information, because anyone can write / edit the articles published on that site. Ok, so you know as well as I do, that Putin doesn't work with or ally himself or his country with the cabal. And central bank or not, it's still not one ran by the Feds / Global Elite. The article is not accurate, enough said. You might consider facts concerning the global groups involvement with ET ''woo-woo'' some of us happen to be aware of what's really going on around here. But, hey, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and opinions. I'll go look up the articles on their weaponry, but there isn't articles available for some of my knowledge . Or even leave a copy laying around. That's bad strategy.
    I agree again Wiki is not so reliable but the second link there is the central banks own page can you debunk that one too
    FYI Calling one out as wrong on here is mindless , when you follow it with . ( I have, my sources don't publish articles for the general public or cabal even to 'find out'. Not how this 'war' is won, you don't hand over your play book to the enemy) who do expect to buy this, if anyone's misinformed or wrong I say its most likely appears to be the one who calls the kettle black.
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    nobody is in control, i'm sure there are entities seeking it but the world is too big and with too many people to have control of it.

    oh, and nobody is going to war with russia. people have families. nobody wants war right now, except ISIS and similar organizations, and we are taking care of those guys.

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