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    Default Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting: eleven dead at Paris offices of satirical magazine

    CFR: French Admit To ‘Following’ Kouachi Brothers Before Magazine Shooting

    new Friday 9th January 2015 at 12:04 By David Icke




    ‘As French authorities close in on the two fleeing suspects turned hostage-takers,
    skepticism is building around reports which indicated a vast dossier of each suspect,
    and how security services allowed the alleged suspects to roam free, plan and stage
    Wednesday’s violent incident at Charlie Hebdo Magazine in Paris.

    Going by the official narrative, which says that the two prime suspects announced by
    French police, Cherif and Said Kouachi, were responsible for Wednesday’s attack, it
    seems as if the two ‘terrorists’ were being closely monitored and tracked by both
    French and US security services prior to the event…’

    Read more: CFR: French Admit To ‘Following’ Kouachi Brothers Before Magazine Shooting

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/01/0...ng-executions/

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    They left their ID's in the car ......

    Charlie Hebdo suspects vs Police: Dammartin-en-Goele 'like warzone'



    Published on 9 Jan 2015


    After a dramatic car chase, casualties, and gun fire, police in Paris have reportedly
    closed in on the suspects in the Charlie Hebdo magazine, who have taken one or
    several hostages, with injuries also reported. FULL STORY: http://on.rt.com/eblyob
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    Just a few points for your information.

    Last night on French national TV (France 2), they showed excerpts from a report filmed in 2002 featuring the main suspect, along with a lawyer stating over the phone that the guy he had defended back then showed no signs of ever becoming anything like the public enemy n° 1 he is now. Understandable, because how long does mind control/indoctrination take? Not 12 years.

    They also showed a report with a film crew accompanying a woman who flew to Turkey to bring back a repentant young relative who had joined the Jihad in Syria after someone had found him something to occupy his idle hands; it doesn’t take much to occupy an empty mind with a phoney purpose in life. He was arrested immediately on arriving at the airport, and we were told that he would likely be serving a lengthy jail term for his mistake (up to 15 years). The number of such cases we were told has risen to over a thousand, far too many to be policed individually. That would be why the French police were not following the men in question as closely as they needed to. But none of this says anything about the ‘someones’ responsible for recruiting these patsies. Who is recruiting them etc?

    We also saw the widow of Stéphane Charb(onnier) and the chief editor of an Algerian newspaper wiped out in for a bomb attack a while back, and heard from a journalist who survived the attack while in the room. And there was footage of the reactions at the daily Libération, which has close ties with Charlie Hebdo, notably showing the chief editor Laurent Joffrin fighting back the tears. These and others are real people who have lost real friends and are certainly not acting a part. If they are pawns in a bigger agenda, then they are unwilling and I would say unwitting pawns.

    Finally, we were shown excerpts from an earlier reportage made in happier times, with shots of the weekly editorial meeting that was the scene of the attack. I can’t remember everything that was said, but I expect it was mentioned that these meetings were held on a Wednesday morning. It seems to be normal practice anyway for a weekly paper to meet on the day it goes to press, presumably at the start of a new week. The same happens at Le Canard Enchaîné, which also comes out on Wednesdays. This in response to the guy who is suspicious that the killers should know exactly when to turn up: not difficult to find out.

    Correction: 2005, not 2002:
    http://www.liberation.fr/societe/201...e-tele_1176383
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    Gordon Duff: Paris ((False Flag)) Wasn’t Even Filmed in Paris!


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    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Gordon Duff: Paris ((False Flag)) Wasn’t Even Filmed in Paris!

    If this is true then why isn't there an uproar from tons of people about this????????????? It can't be this obvious of a false flag just to one person out of 7 billion.
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    Default Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting: eleven dead at Paris offices of satirical magazine

    Beginning of the attack on police


    Back to the car after the fake shot to police


    This video is a montage of at least two distinct moments (scenes).

    Theater from beginning to end



    The shoe this there in two scenes of the very close fitting to the risk that magically appears on the floor. This is not a coincidence. The shoe be there by itself is bizarre in that circumstance. In the case of an assembly he has a purpose
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    video already gone.

    Point being that head shots create massive gouts of blood, as the body goes crazy and brings the blood pressure up to the highest levels is will ever deal with, unless being crushed.

    There is even a well known and widely applied aspect of crime scene forensics to deal with that aspect, which is 'blood spatter patterns'.

    Suffice it to say, a head shot at point blank range, with a AK-47 7.62x39 FMJ round, will be about 1600 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. This means a severe trauma of the brain tissue and a great amount of arterial destruction (in the brain). Which means that the body, full of adrenaline, in total shock, will indeed pump the body's blood out of the wound entry and exit points at a high pressure and high rate. This high flow would begin to appear, in the given scene, in about 1-1.5 seconds. Expect a minimum of about 2 liters before the heart might stop,and up to 4 liters in the most extreme. So, half a gallon to as much as a gallon of blood.

    I cannot see the video, but if it showed even a few seconds of after the shooting in the head, then the blood flow should be in 99 out of a 100 cases...it should be extreme. There should even be a spatter of blood from the shot itself, plus fleshy debris.
    I agree and it didn't take them long to take down all of the original video footage. I saw it (and wish that I had downloaded it before they scrubbed it) and there was no blood splatter, no body movement when the alleged bullet hit him in the head, and no ricochet, sparks, skull fragments, or anything else that one would expect to see if a bullet fired from a high powered rifle at close range and passing through a head and hitting the concrete sidewalk below would have indicated.

    It was clearly a staged event, IMHO, and I think the fact that all the video footage (at least as far as I can tell) has been edited with the body now pixelated and the scene where the gunman passes by the body after firing is removed. Naturally, their rationale being to protect us from seeing such graphic violence. Of course, all the gore in the thousands of war and horror movies and news footage depicting our planes dropping bombs on people is quite acceptable though. Gee, go figure.
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    Silenced forever; dead men tell no tales....

    Quote Two brothers suspected in a newspaper massacre in France have been killed along with another gunman who was holding at least five hostages at a kosher market in Paris, a police official said.
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/01/...king-underway/
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    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Gordon Duff: Paris ((False Flag)) Wasn’t Even Filmed in Paris!

    To me the site looks very similar to the Boulevard Richard Lenoir just round the corner from Charlie Hebdo. This guy sounds way too sure of himself. Compare the following screenshot with a shot from Google Earth:

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    I think Duff needs to screen his guests a little better. Those were some big claims for sure that seem to me at least a bit far-fetched; false flag or not....
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    In the end, we only know one thing, is that if we are dealing with a false flag, it is like a lying attacker at our door. The lying attacker only needs to hold the line and the lie long enough..... to gain entry to the given space.

    After that (once 'in situ') a prearranged 'fait accompli' (fr: accomplished fact) scenario can be initiated.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    In the end, we only know one thing, is that if we are dealing with a false flag, it is like a lying attacker at our door. The lying attacker only needs to hold the line and the lie long enough..... to gain entry to the given space.

    After that (once 'in situ') a prearranged 'fait accompli' (fr: accomplished fact) scenario can be initiated.
    False flag or not; once again we have a situation to which the suspect(s) are cornered and killed within hours, before the bodies of the perps are cold.....case basically closed.....end of story.

    The language being used in many of the news outlets coming out right now is more attacks are coming to western targets......MI5 is actually saying imminent attacks towards western targets. We'll have to wait and see as usual. Regardless, the fear-mongering machine is hitting 4th gear about right now.
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    Armed man takes hostages in Paris kosher grocery store



    Published on 9 Jan 2015


    An armed man has taken at least five hostages in a grocery store in Porte de Vincennes,
    eastern Paris, French media reports. It is also reported shots were fired. FULL STORY: http://on.rt.com/ycbp8f

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Problem Reaction Solution ......President Hollande admits they new of possible
    attacks , which leads to predictable reaction from the right wing parties....





    Published on 9 Jan 2015


    Marine Le Pen held a meeting with President Hollande and other party leaders as the siege in
    Dammartin-en-Goele developed. In a statement afterwards, she said that it's Islamic
    fundamentalism that France is fighting now. FOLLOW LIVE UPDATES: http://on.rt.com/k5ivya

    ==================================================





    BBC coverage as France sieges end


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-30722098

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    Multiple EXPLOSIONS as Police STORM Hostage Site at Paris #Dammartin Grocery Store




    Published on 9 Jan 2015


    DRAMATIC VIDEO FOOTAGE: Police Launch Assault On Siege Locations, Male
    Suspect killed, Female Escapes, 'Hostages Killed' In Paris Supermarket Siege.
    Reports say four hostages are killed while other people are seen leaving the kosher
    supermarket as commandos launch an assault. Charlie Hebdo : la traque à
    Dammartin-En-Goële et à Paris
    (Sky News) At least four hostages have been killed at the end of siege at a Paris
    supermarket involving a jihadist gunman.
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    From Jim Stone's website:

    Quote Top 10 (now 12) inconsistencies tally:

    1. 10 people were supposed to have died with others injured. Yet at the scene, a max of 2 ambulances showed up when well over 10 would have been needed for such an event.
    2. It looks like they did fire some real rounds from the looks of one of the police cars for this "drill", however the pictures are not clear enough to show if the bullet holes are just gangsta stickers, in one of the photos the police officers are laughing and joking next to the shot up car where someone supposedly died. Additionally, images on Google of shot up windshields have cracks going all through the windshield. In this France event, all damage is limited to where the holes are. Is that possible?

    3. All people who responded to the scene had French Foreign Legion haircuts. Odd for ambulance drivers and EMT's.

    4 (a good one) - If the perpetrators got away and have not been captured, HOW did the French police identify them within hours when they did not turn up elsewhere? Sort of like the passport on 911 or all those pristine passports from flight MH17. That works. Gotta have a positive ID on them to "prove" they are "Muslim" and not just the Mossad out on a field trip. Gotta do it when the shock factor is at max. And no one dropped a passport this time, HOW did the police figure it out? TIMES THREE?

    5. I never saw any bloody photos from this, not even fake blood, not even from a police officer who was shot by an AK and laying on the sidewalk for 10 seconds before being "shot" a second time, and still no blood. Very odd if this is real.

    6. Target was a group of Jews, who belong to a greater whole which stages B.S. terror attacks frequently. That stinks.

    7. How did the road miraculously have no traffic? The scene is set up as if staged. It is as if the area was cordoned off prior to the "attack" for a drill, so the "terrorists" simply parked smack dab in the middle of the road because they knew there would be no traffic.

    8. How did the attackers know there would be a giant staff meeting with everyone important for the publication present to be shot all at once? A little help from the NSA or what?

    9. The publication had serious prior financial trouble, and if it was going to close anyway, why not use it to stage a psy op? That would "explain" why it closed, would it not?

    10. There is no recoil on the AK as it shoots. I initially assumed blanks, but what about rubber bullets? At any rate, there was no sign of blood at any point from the police officer, an AK goes all the way through and bullet proof vests are for handguns, not AK rounds. If he was wearing one it would not work. LACK OF ANY RECOIL AT ALL SCREAMS BLANK.

    Inconsistency 11:

    All video initially posted was shot from rooftops. FOR A SCENE THAT LASTED LESS THAN A MINUTE. How did anyone get up to the roof that fast to get video of this, times several people shooting from different places? The roof tops were just regular roof tops with no reason for anyone to be up there. It is not like there was a roof top Starbucks or something. Why were people up there to begin with, how did they figure out what was going on and have their cell phones all ready to shoot video from perfect angles from start to finish?
    ANSWER: They went up ahead of time, got in position, and shot video of a drill they knew would happen. It is the only rational answer. Even if they were a roofing crew, they would not have figured out something was going on and had camera phones (times several) shooting clear video in under 15 seconds to capture this less than a minute long event. The staged camera angles and time frame alone nails this as a fraud, such timing and positioning is flatly impossible. Even the robot android DATA from Star Trek could not have gotten up to the roof that fast, found where to shoot the best video from and captured this so well.

    Inconsistency 12: Getaway driver was in school at the time of the "incident"

    Classmates stand up for him

    The classmates of an 18-year-old suspect in the Paris shooting, that occurred yesterday afternoon at the offices of Charlie Hebdo magazine, have protested his innocence by saying that he was in class at the time of the incident in which 12 people were murdered.
    Hamyd Mourad was reported to have handed himself to the police at around 11pm last night after he saw his name mentioned on the news and his friends and acquaintances have said that he has an alibi, as they claim he was present in the classrooms that day.

    It won't matter, just like the Boston bombing, where dorm room mates said Tsnarev was not at the bombing scene when it happened. Once they name a patsy, he is TOAST. What an innocent dupe Hamyd was for turning himself in expecting the system to be just when running a Jewish scam! Gitmo time!

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    Huh???? Now this is rather quite weird....wonder if Obama's going to attend? lol!

    Quote EU president Donald Tusk will join a mass rally on Sunday in Paris to show solidarity after the terror attacks on the Charlie Hebdo magazine and a kosher supermarket, his spokesman announced on Friday.
    "President Tusk received a call from President Hollande and he will go to Paris to take part in the march," spokesman Preben Aamann said.

    Meanwhile, the British Prime Minister David Cameron said Friday he would join in the mass rally being staged in Paris. "I've accepted President Hollande's invitation to join the Unity Rally in Paris this Sunday -- celebrating the values behind Charlie Hebdo", he said on his personal Twitter account.

    The Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi and Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy have also announced that they will attend.

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    Source: http://www.ilpost.it/2015/01/09/paol...charlie-hebdo/

    The deputy of the Movement 5 Stars Paolo Bernini - that of "microchips in people, in America" ​​and doubts about the death of Osama Bin Laden expressed in Parliament - said yesterday on Facebook the attack on the preparation of the weekly Charlie Hebdo, in Paris, in which 12 people died , raising doubts about the alleged involvement of the United States.

    Quote The practice of creating fake enemy attacks to circumvent the constitution and to freely declare war on the imaginary attackers has a precise name in the language of the Yankees: it's called false flag. All the more recent wars involving the United States of America have one. No coincidence that all modern wars America stem from a lie!

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    Doesn't this ending look like what Carmody said at the beginning of this thread?

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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    this is an oil war...

    Saudi Arabia is crushing crude pricing and it's pissing off the bankers and oil men...

    suddenly we have a civil war breaking out? an attack on France to bring them together to fight the evil Muslims that are against freedoms...

    Sounds like almost time to open the women's driving schools in Saudi Arabia...
    I'll volunteer as an instructor, Rocky...
    and find and visit Sacred Sites there in my free time : )

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    Paris Attack Smacks Of False Flag





    HOW MANY MOSSAD AGENTS does it take to pull off a false flag?
    Just enough to have a getaway car ready at a Kosher Restaurant two miles from the Charlie Hebdo scene in Paris.

    The perpetrators’ first car, a black Citroen, was abandoned at the restaurant while a grey Renault was provided for the murderers to flee in, reportedly “carjacked” as per the French police.

    One look at how carefully the getaway car was parked in front of the Kosher Restaurant suggests that the attackers were in no hurry to escape since they knew that a safe haven and another car was ready for them for the second leg of their getaway.

    Why the French police are claiming the Renault getaway vehicle was “carjacked” appears to cover the fact that the Renault was provided by, as this author sees it, Jewish accomplices, that is, Sayanim.

    Many anomalies support this author’s theory that the Charlie Hebdo attack was a Mossad false flag operation.

    More:







    Images source: http://jssnews.com/2015/01/07/photos...aurant-casher/

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    Default Re: Charlie Hebdo shooting: eleven dead at Paris offices of satirical magazine

    False Flags for Dummies

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