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    Default DEMONS behind REAL Magic

    This video is just a quick one to show that demons really are behind the top magicians.



    A brand new series that will disprove the idea of all "magic" being "fake". The previous videos showed bad examples which COULD be fake, in this series, I will try to show the best examples I have found while showing that they are done with the help of demons, not some secret technology. I will try to make it all make sense at the end, and how this is tied in with the Illuminati. Episode 5-6 show that demons are partnering with these magicians and artists.



    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3YLneFhr60
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d89VswC1f7s
    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5VV_FaEIFo
    5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD1PwOPlEfw
    6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXExg6Xj3aA
    7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuYqmFYLs6E
    8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZibBDSVBK60
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    Default Re: DEMONS behind REAL Magic

    It looks very staged to me.

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    Default Re: DEMONS behind REAL Magic

    I know, to take this serious you need to open your mind to the possibillity that it can be real, and look at what the video sais.
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    Quote Posted by Observer1964 (here)
    I know, to take this serious you need to open your mind to the possibillity that it can be real, and look at what the video sais.
    The willing suspension of disbelief. Just set aside your critical mind and all will be well.

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    Default Re: DEMONS behind REAL Magic

    At the end he shows the 666 with his hand. So there is that connection with the devil.

    Im not sure they all work with demons (not counting the fakers), i think some might really have special abilities without outside assistance.

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    Interesting, according to Simon Parkes the dark Illuminati are given black magic powers and he himself claims to have been trained by a jinn. We can summon the jinn ourselves if we wish and ask them to serve us or if not they will serve the master of a steel ring - Lord of the rings!!

    I often thought dynamo had certain magic powers. he seemed too good

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    Default Re: DEMONS behind REAL Magic

    Quote Posted by Heartsong (here)
    Quote Posted by Observer1964 (here)
    I know, to take this serious you need to open your mind to the possibillity that it can be real, and look at what the video sais.
    The willing suspension of disbelief. Just set aside your critical mind and all will be well.
    I think there is a difference between being open minded and setting aside critical thinking, I think critical thinking is very important otherwise openminded would be just gullible, just like being close-minded is not the same as thinking critical btw...
    and to me thinking can lead to belief or disbelief, if I allready disbelief something, I dont spend much attention to it, nor do I ridicule others who want to think or talk about it.
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    I often thought dynamo had certain magic powers. he seemed too good
    The first time I saw him I immidiatly thought he was helped by the others/demons.
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    I have thought for many decades that certain magicians had unexplained enhanced powers. Could they be in a relationship with a demon? Sure, why not... But that is only one possibility, and likely one that does exist. We probably all have a different definition of "demon" or "demonic" forces, but we need to use words so I guess demon and demonic will suffice to describe other dimensional beings we think of as evil. But I do hesitate to brand all those who perform what look like things that defy the so called laws of physics as using or being used by demonic forces. I would need to understand that these actions have some sort of "evil" or negative agenda. Or perhaps the only negative is the relationship between the magician and the one who is empowering him, as in he "sold his soul to the devil".

    I don't think you can actually "sell" your soul, but certainly you could believe that you sold your soul and thus you may create a reality wherein you would go to a sort of hell when you die... if you believe it strongly enough and continue believing it after your physical death. I am not saying that hell or hells do not exist, but they are as much a part of our created illusionary reality (which feels real) as everything else in the earth dimension, the astral and other "lower" dimensions. "Lower" would be all dimensions in the Creation as they are all part of the duality.

    Some beings like to play the games of power and control by influencing and controlling those in other dimensions (and in their own), like astral beings influencing earth humans. I imagine it's difficult for many people to pass up a chance to gain certain "miraculous" powers, so we are easily convinced to accept these powers from whatever entity is offering them... and willing to pay a price. Can these abilities, which are actually something we could do without help if we were advanced enough, be used by humans to control and influence other humans? It seems so and it's actually fairly easy to control and influence others.

    There are certain gurus who have used powers of manifestation, like to manifest gemstones, in order to influence their followers. Is this negative? Did they gain this power from an association with a negative entity? Or is this just their natural ability which evolved to the level of having enough power and energy to control manipulating matter (energy) and/or manifesting within the matrix. We all have these abilities if we would want to spend enough time developing them, although I never did see much advantage in attempting to dazzle the masses. I guess magicians see a great monetary advantage and it likely fulfills a need to have their ego's stroked. Perhaps gurus, preachers and "holy" men who can manipulate energy think they have benevolent motives for manifesting to impress their followers, but ultimately we are all influenced by ego needs or desires.

    In conclusion, the amazing powers that some magicians exhibit could be bestowed by a demonic force or being, or could be an evolved natural ability. I wouldn't want to assume they are all demonic before a much more in depth investigation into each person who uses these powers.
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    Chris Angel, David Blaine, Dynamo? Demons? No. At the risk of bragging, I can do or know how to do nearly every trick in their arsenal. It's merely deception and illusion, nothing more. If I can do the tricks does that mean I'm in league with the Devil or demons? There are tricks that absolutely defy explanation, until you hear the explanation. Oh, now I see, said the blind man.
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    Conk, pls feel free to explain a few of the tricks that we see in the video, like the fishbowl, mobile in bottle and such...
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    Conk, pls feel free to explain a few of the tricks that we see in the video, like the fishbowl, mobile in bottle and such...
    As a magician who paid for the rights to the effects I will not reveal the secrets. I will tell you that there are gimmicks involved sometimes. Things done beforehand, prepared in advance with the intention of fooling the audience. There are props that are costly. There are angles taken advantage of, where should someone standing just a few degrees from where the magician stands the secret can be easily seen. There are stooges employed sometimes, someone in the audience in league with the performer. The magician manages the audience without their knowledge, steering people to stand in certain places. Deceptive practices galore! "Look over there", while I do something sneaky over here.

    And I promise you the secret ALWAYS takes the fun away, because the secrets are often so simple. You don't want to know the secret!

    OK, I'll give you one trick. As I approach you I hand you a sealed envelope, asking you to hold it and put it away - hide it even. Then, I'd ask you to give me a dollar bill. I take the dollar and ask you to note the serial number, write it down. Next I take a lighter from my pocket and as you keep your eye on the serial number I burn the dollar until it is only a tiny bit of ash. The dollar is gone, right? Oh, but what about the envelope? As I stand back you open the envelope to find the dollar with the exact serial number written down. How could that possibly happen? Serial numbers denote the uniqueness of an individual bill, don't they? Yes they do. How is it done?
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    Default Re: DEMONS behind REAL Magic

    Impressed with the first vid, where the magician kept changing his eye type with a blink.
    Well impressed with all the magic real or not at their levels!
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    Well for starters dude's got contact lenses floating on top of his eyeballs...with the right blink he can get them to drop. That's a physical control of his own body.

    Observer? What if I told you you've got the stick pointed in the wrong direction? What if I told you its not magicians/illusionists that need to worry, but every sod in the audience? I mean, what makes you think it's exclusively illusionists and magicians that have etherial wood ticks attached to them?

    I'd say it's a frightening thought but I think most of us already know it, and just pretend that we don't see a red pill or blue pill.

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    The blind can and often do lead and vote for the blind.

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    Quote Posted by Observer1964 (here)
    Conk, pls feel free to explain a few of the tricks that we see in the video, like the fishbowl, mobile in bottle and such...
    As a magician who paid for the rights to the effects I will not reveal the secrets. I will tell you that there are gimmicks involved sometimes. Things done beforehand, prepared in advance with the intention of fooling the audience. There are props that are costly. There are angles taken advantage of, where should someone standing just a few degrees from where the magician stands the secret can be easily seen. There are stooges employed sometimes, someone in the audience in league with the performer. The magician manages the audience without their knowledge, steering people to stand in certain places. Deceptive practices galore! "Look over there", while I do something sneaky over here.

    And I promise you the secret ALWAYS takes the fun away, because the secrets are often so simple. You don't want to know the secret!

    OK, I'll give you one trick. As I approach you I hand you a sealed envelope, asking you to hold it and put it away - hide it even. Then, I'd ask you to give me a dollar bill. I take the dollar and ask you to note the serial number, write it down. Next I take a lighter from my pocket and as you keep your eye on the serial number I burn the dollar until it is only a tiny bit of ash. The dollar is gone, right? Oh, but what about the envelope? As I stand back you open the envelope to find the dollar with the exact serial number written down. How could that possibly happen? Serial numbers denote the uniqueness of an individual bill, don't they? Yes they do. How is it done?
    Duplicate dollars perhaps?

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    Default Re: DEMONS behind REAL Magic

    Why quibble in the details? When all is said and done, your entire environment including every cell in your body and your consciousness itself is MAGICAL!

    I still have eyes to see what the world would have me see but that doesn't mean I believe. - Sara

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    Conk, pls feel free to explain a few of the tricks that we see in the video, like the fishbowl, mobile in bottle and such...
    Duplicate dollars perhaps?
    There are only one of each serial number. You're not accusing me of being a counterfeiter, are you?

    But you are essentially right. The secret is to get a $100 stack of sequentially serial numbered single dollars. Take out the dollars with serial numbers that end in 3 or 8. Two of those will be the same serial number except for the last digit, 3 or 8. Take a dollar with a serial number that ends in 3 and change it (carefully, it's difficult to find the right kind of pen or pencil with green ink) to an 8. Very easy. Now you have two dollars with seemingly the same serial number. Put the real one in an envelope, or where ever, and burn the other fake numbered bill. This way they can fully examine the real bill and not the altered one.

    Alternately, you could tear up the altered dollar into 4 pieces. Let the spectator write down the serial number and examine the four separate pieces. Take them from him and fold up as tiny as you can and swap it discretely with the real dollar bill that you have hidden in a rubber thump tip. Then unfold the real dollar and let them see what they think is the dollar they just saw you rip up and that they held. They check the serial number and it's it!

    The second version is my favorite. In practice it gets spectacular reactions. Simply reading how it's done does not give notion enough to the kind of reactions you'll get if you pull it off to some of your friends. They will think YOU are a demon.
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    Default Re: DEMONS behind REAL Magic

    i used to practice magic tricks for as a hobby for 2-3 years. many effects are actually produced quite simply, with either slight of hand or gimmicks.
    i also know that chris angel used actors for some tricks on his tv show. i never liked him much, also because of that. even though he surely aquired some nice skills over the years of practice.

    anyway, i havent looked at the videos, but i reckon that all "commercial magicians" in general dont conjure up spirits, but use physical objects to manipulate things and create magical effects.
    youd be surprised how cheap the mechanics behind some incredible effects actually are.

    and the best magicians are the ones that can actually sell their illusion to you with their presentation. their behaviour, words/suggestions etc.


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    "It happens that when for the first time a meditator attains to some psychic energy, some psychic power, the tendency, a natural tendency, is to exhibit it. And if he exhibits, sooner or later he will lose the power" -- Osho

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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)

    "It happens that when for the first time a meditator attains to some psychic energy, some psychic power, the tendency, a natural tendency, is to exhibit it. And if he exhibits, sooner or later he will lose the power" -- Osho
    That resonates strong with me, but as I understood it is allowed to show it to a student to teach, but otherwise this may only be used for real purpose like the healer in the 2nd video did before and after his 'show-off'.
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