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    Default Free energy through solo inverter/generator -> "cold radiant energy" -> inverter/generator infinite loop

    I came across this very interesting demonstration of free energy through a concept called "Cold Radiant Energy"/"Cold Electricity"/"Cold Radiation"/"Electrical Implosion", work grounded by Nikola Tesla.

    Infinite Loop:

    solo inverter/generator (AC @60Hz) -> "cold electricity" -> inverter/generator (AC @60Hz)

    In the demonstration a set of electrical devices are powered by 4 hp as initial input. 1 hp = 745.699872 watts, 4 hp = 2982.799488 watts, but it is successfully powering a set of electrical devices requiring 6000 watts.



    This seems promising to say the least...
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    A sketch of the circuit and specifications of the 50kVA transformers would have been very helpful to comprehend what he's doing.

    His 4HP generator will deliver about 2983 watts. His loads total (1500 1450 1500 1500) 5960 watts.

    He doesn't to tell us what the full load is when it's all operating. Presumably his point is that his 3kW generator is fully powering the 5.96kW load, but that's not at all clear. He's waving about that current clamp without letting us know what it's reading.

    Assuming all the items are 120V, and his fuse is rated at 30A they will consume about 3600 watts before blowing the fuse. No idea if his radiator heaters are actually on, never mind on full load. Does he reach that power?

    As far as I can see, he just keeps mentioning 'radiation' and 'tuning' without being specific.

    He had no structured demonstration with current and voltage figures at all points. So not sure what he's trying to demonstrate.

    If he wants to measure 10 kV high voltages (he says too difficult and too dangerous) just go to a TV repair shop where 25 kV was regularly generated for a colour TV tube. Not difficult to measure despite what he says. If he's serious about this work he needs to get on ebay and invest in some appropriate test gear. (A high voltage probe is only about $50.)

    I can't tell if what he is doing is impossible or not because it's not clear what he's doing!

    And my old argument is that if this technology has been around for so long, any keen, maverick physics students would have rediscovered it and become Nobel Prize winners yeas ago.

    Other over-unity equipment was demonstrated by the QEG groups last March. That was supposed to be 'promising technology'...

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    Here is a discussion I found providing some additional clues into where these guys are coming from with these experiments...



    Furthermore, all of Tesla's work is downloadable as a ~1 GB file/~3000 pages from here if you want to go really deeply into the work of Nikola Tesla.
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    The guy is demonstrating a home-made DC to AC innverter, but instead of using solid-state switches he's using a DC motor. It was done like that decades ago.

    DC-AC converters are most often used to convert 12V DC from a car battery to 120/240 AC for TVs, lighting, etc. on small boats and caravans for example.

    The non-connected florescent lamps light dimly because of the relatively high voltage he's generating, particularly as it's not at the normal 60 Hz, but a higher frequency, with no doubt a very spiky, non-sinusoidal waveform.

    It's all very muddled (with more talk of 'radiation' on his amp meter) and sounds like neither of them understand that normal test gear is calibrated for sinusoidal waveforms and can give very misleading results for anything else. The 129V AC and 137 Hz is probably not accurate. The peak AC voltage is probably much higher.

    Nothing here so far...

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    The guy is demonstrating a home-made DC to AC innverter, but instead of using solid-state switches he's using a DC motor. It was done like that decades ago.

    DC-AC converters are most often used to convert 12V DC from a car battery to 120/240 AC for TVs, lighting, etc. on small boats and caravans for example.

    The non-connected florescent lamps light dimly because of the relatively high voltage he's generating, particularly as it's not at the normal 60 Hz, but a higher frequency, with no doubt a very spiky, non-sinusoidal waveform.

    It's all very muddled (with more talk of 'radiation' on his amp meter) and sounds like neither of them understand that normal test gear is calibrated for sinusoidal waveforms and can give very misleading results for anything else. The 129V AC and 137 Hz is probably not accurate. The peak AC voltage is probably much higher.

    Nothing here so far...

    Nick
    Hmm... I just want to see mother nature prove them right first of all through an endurance test, overunity produces energy forever. Then I want to see a set of researchers independently taking data readings, validating various measurement equipment and stuff like that. Then once beyond any doubt whatsoever - A) mother nature proves them right, B) data points exactly in the right direction in 100% of the valid cases, C) 0% indications of the measurement equipment artifacts - then it's time to try to understand what's going on in theory. I like to see this come true though, I really do... get the people of this earth off the grid.
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    A little more horse power, a little less horse sh!t



    (just a joke from a scientist who has more than a passing interest in FE, not to be taken as a jab at the op )

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    Quote And my old argument is that if this technology has been around for so long, any keen, maverick physics students would have rediscovered it and become Nobel Prize winners yeas ago.
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    Thanks for the Nobel Prize stuff Hughe. The 'who gets it' process is no doubt open to all the influences that any human institution suffers from. Nevertheless, if a group of bright physics students who wanted to break the current paradigm (who had come across all this 'free energy' stuff), they would be more than happy to share it amongst themselves, get the results corroborated and BINGO! It's out there.

    In my experience most students want to prove their 'superiors' wrong. They have access to the internet, and are probably better at doing deep research than I am to uncover documents. As we keep being told, this technology was pioneered by Tesla. Much of his documentation is - apparently - freely available to anyone who cares to look. Any missing information could surely be pieced together by our student researchers.

    Lets assume some have done that; they have a working free-energy device that breaks the laws of physics as we currently understand them. They don't want money, they are altruistic and will be happy with the fame of their discovery.

    But no one is interested. They just can't get anyone to even look at their work, which is odd as Youtube has plenty of TV news reports showing this stuff. Here's just one from the 1980s that sank without trace.

    Therefore I suggest they approach a charity (Oxfam springs to mind because it's well-known with teams and projects across the world) and tell them: "We have invented a device that will provide free electricity. Would you like it to run a small school's lighting/water purification plant/doctor's vaccine fridge in one of your projects?" This approach would not be purely altruistic; it would also be publicity for them to 'get the ball rolling'.

    I think Oxfam would be extremely interested in such a device and the sinister 'Powers That Be' may find it slightly more difficult to suppress this when the public see it's being supplied free to an international charity.

    So, why hasn't this happened? Do you really think in these days of internet connectivity that if Tesla had this technology 100 years ago that it could still be kept hidden, when there is so much interest? The Quantum Energy Group even published their plans - for free - in March 2014 (widely commented on in PA) for anyone to download and reproduce their machine. So what happened to that project? Were all the down-loaders 'suicided'? If so they missed one...

    If free energy is really possible, I suspect it can only be achieved in huge government/military facilities with huge amounts of investment. The technology is probably just too complex for even university students to reproduce, so I doubt we need worry about any Youtube videos - for now...

    Nick
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