Canada might kick out its banksters

[Carmody]

Your link is bounced and blocked

http://westcoastnativenews.com/the-c...ill-not-cover/

You have to go right to the website itself, then go directly to the page, no links will work. Either here, or on google.

One has to come 100% through the front door of the website. And then commit to a sequence of clicks on the article itself.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Your link is bounced and blocked

http://westcoastnativenews.com/the-c...ill-not-cover/

It worked fine with Iron(Chrome) and an ad blocker. IE, not so much, never tried with Firefox. Looks like a good article.

[Hervé]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Your link is bounced and blocked

http://westcoastnativenews.com/the-c...ill-not-cover/

It worked fine with Iron(Chrome) and an ad blocker. IE, not so much, never tried with Firefox. Looks like a good article.

The page appears then disappears with clicking the parsed link in Firefox as well.

However, lifting the full link with "Copy link location" from the above Avalon parsed link and pasting it in the URL box with "Paste & Go" in a new tab and the page comes up directly... it may indicate it is the re-direct from the Avalon site that's blocked? Something Ilie and/or Paul can figure out, maybe?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Hervé (here)
Something Ilie and/or Paul can figure out, maybe?

The variant of this link in Post #22 above is hopeless - missing the characters "-the" in the URL.

The variant of this link in Post #40 works totally fine for me, clicking on it, from within the Avalon post, or copying it to the address bar of my browser manually.

I don't know why clicking on the embedded link is failing for some other users, some browsers.

[Carmody]

Change is exponential, so kill it at the root. Simple logic in economics of systems.

To try hard to keep away from the sociological flip point of 10% of Canadians becoming aware.

A stopgap move, a thing designed to help give them time to come to some form of a solution, a solution that moves to being in control and of personal design.

Thus, futz with the link from that particular website, in seemingly innocuous/innocent ways.

I'm using firefox, and the link comes up, then closes.

In return, I propose a change in the title of the thread.

How about "Canada and Canadians obtain legal right in court bid to kick out banksters"

[lilac]

Thanks for trying everyone. I'm not very practiced at posting. In case you didn't notice, the second link I put up was re-published February 10th from the previous issue, originally written on January 28th. I like your new thread title Carmody.

[applepie]

Here is how GATA reported on the court case:

http://www.gata.org/node/15086

[applepie]

Press for Truth provides an excellent synopsis of the court case

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGFsOwowlbU

[Carmody]

Posted by Carmody (here)
An important point, a CRITICAL point:

All the offices of "Revenue Canada", have Canadian flags, in their public offices, places where the public may walk into.

INSIDE the confines of those offices, is a Canadian flag, with a GOLD FRINGE around it's (the flag proper) periphery.

This is critical as this is the mark of the covert fascist takeover group. This is how they publicly show you their control of that office and like SHIP'S LAW, that ...stepping into that office and dealing with that office, is dealing with not just INTERNATIONAL LAW, but the LAW OF THE SEA, which is separate from land law or Canadian federal laws. (the gold fringe is about ship's law, ocean law, independent law--but coming from Canada)

So, they are trying to say that: "we are separate from ALL of you, and when you deal with these premises, these offices and all functions tied to these offices, via legal paperwork and your agreement upon and therein; you are involved in our laws and our edicts, our claims."

This is critical, as this is how they get past the idea of universal law, of the laws of the given country and how they create slavery that is against the universal laws, via the creation of finance and it's manipulation.

How they have to indicate it openly and clearly. Which they have Done.

You just have to recognize the signs in front of you. They are not obligated to illustrate such, but they are obligated to put the signs in the window...they simply indicate -----and you have to try and understand.

This how they pay lip service to universal or the law of the interstellar/inter-dimensional sphere, but do not follow the spirit of the law.

They are using weasel tactics (weasels are butchering bloodsuckers, seriously - in case you did not know) in order to try and creep in slavery/control of the human race, on the universal scale.

One big problem for them: Separate entities, that operate in separate law, independent law, are not to be operating on the Canadian or US SOIL, according to how the international law of the seas operates. They are trying real real hard to flub their way past that legal problem.

This is the kind of reason some of the things like giant yachts are out in the open sea, being operated by billionaires and such. They can control their empires independent from the law of the land and operate under their given 'ship's law', independent from legal claims by land groups, such as countries and their given federal laws.

Why do you think some of them spend their time moving from tax haven island to tax haven island and tax haven independent border/ocean entities? They have to follow international law of the seas/oceans, but those laws are independent of financial concerns, for the far greater part.



They are following the rules. Rules/laws you may not be aware of. Rules/laws that they pay lip service to...... but openly break the spirit of.

The secondary challenge, is to break the cycle of how they attempt to operate on land masses, to challenge the precedent that they are trying very hard to enact and hold. Acceptance of terms, over time and in case and instance... creates legal precedent. The legal argument becomes one of awareness of conditions in the given precedent(s). And then a judge decides.

At that point, your problem becomes ..who runs the given judiciary?


More on how this works, in interstellar space, ie off the planet and off the landmasses, in the oceans. The ocean is independent of the land masses, in earth laws..... and the moon is independent of earth laws.

FOR THE SPACE BUG: DID, OR DID NOT, THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION DECIDE TO EXTEND ITS JURISDICTION TO THE MOON?

Do you feel you have a serious problem? Thus (as dominoes of logic may go/fall), how high a court are you willing to appeal to? How to achieve resolution?

Now, if someone is attempting to blunt your awareness (control of society, religion, and just about all other doors), blunt your developing intelligence, and, most especially, blunt your knowing of the details and the reality...so you cannot realize your dilemma, well..look around you at the world. Just look around at all the clues. It's all right there, in front of you.

Are you intelligent, or just a food animal of a sort? Are you trying to be alive, in all ways... and find that being taken from you, via various channels and means?

One must define what can stand in front of a given court, make claim ---and seek resolution.

Are you being blunted, in awareness and other ways...and, via precedence, remaining out of awareness, thus..via fiat... that you remain out of that court or arena of discussion and motions, and concede your 'vote' and 'voice' in any given proceedings?

The answer appears to be yes. Not by the letter of the law, but in pure violation of the spirit of the given 'law' (agreed upon collective norms).

bump. . . . .

how you lose a democracy, to money. How you lose an open society..to the cancer of fascism.

Fascism is unwanted by anyone, except for those involved in fascism. Which is invariably psychopaths and sociopaths. This is why fascism is always cloaked, and always divides, as it needs these things to 'be', in order to creep forward with it's agenda. Distract, and use propaganda.

The point being.... is that you cannot roll over into comfort zones.

Ever. Not even for a second. In the same way you learn how to physically stand and balance without falling over, you have to learn to be on guard. Permanently. Forever. For that which wishes to overtake you, never sleeps.

Never teach you children to sleep, to dance in the garden with no cares..... that is a pipe dream, which will fail. It is a good solid ignorant way to murder them, and their future. This is not about being nasty, it's about understanding a balanced growth is necessary.

All systems of matter/space/time that embody any sort of 'life', all have wide ranges of differential in basic through to complex form.

Difference, differential is required for self awareness, for intelligence to develop. If it does not have these things, it is dead, it is not alive......In such systems, there will be polarities. This is the reality of intelligence that is extant in dimensional systems.

This thing you call a 'you' or an 'I' IS inside of this sort of environment. Being alive or dead is a situation of awareness vs an automaton that is dead. ie, basic food (automaton) vs being alive (a growing intelligence in self awareness).

Choice. Fall back into being food and grass, or come into being alive.

Posted by Carmody (here)
Well, if you throw meat scraps in your driveway, the crows gather to eat it.

Eventually, they make your driveway part of their daily routine.

shortly thereafter, they complain when the meat does not appear.

They come to having a developed sense of demanding entitlement.

If you leave a hole in the side of your life and community... over time, the sociopaths and the psychopaths gather to 'eat it'.

After a while, they control the gathering and fight for your 'life' as 'meat',

After a while they develop a system of eating that meat and sharing it among them or fighting over it.

After a while, with this hole being so regular and normalized, a system develops where you are the expendable and they are the herder and controller, as that is what you and they drifted into, via your acquiescence, laziness, general lack of attention, and simple niceness in sharing... and their insistence.

It really is that simple. Monarchies, Oligarchies, capitalistic extremes, totalitarian-socialism, all the same.


Fascism creeps --- while you sleep.

Drip-drip-dripping you to death, inching forward to being more extreme every day.

They come from a place, a mindset, a neural wiring... that has no hesitation to moving to the level of death and murder, on simple to large scales, it is inherently part of their scale of capacities in motion and thoughts.

Thus, no matter the level of simplicity of your immediate situation, their side of the table is always ready to show you a gun.

You back down.

Until you've allowed things to escalate, over time, in small steps.. to the point where you have to respond in extreme ways.

You have to realize that this is the case, from the very beginning, and respond with such in mind, in all things.

[Carmody]

If this situation does not change soon, we may find the human race asking for external adjudication in order to deal with it's own self appointed oligarchy.

An oligarchy so removed from the mass of the people, and a mass of people forcibly removed from meaning by said oligarchy...that the oligarchy has no logical position to hold in the people's name.

[genevieve]

Thank you, Carmody!

BUMP


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve

[Carmody]

getting back to the real push behind things like bill c-51, the anti terror bill. Who and what is behind it, and so on.

Loss of control, is the issue. We are dealing with invested and involved paranoia from mid-level intelligences who are enabled via their own sociopathic physiology to have intelligence that is not tainted by empathy, but it is clearly governed by limits tied to fear and self-loss. Again, a mid-level intellect. One that is above the level of intellect of the average person, but well within the range of being fully manipulable by more advanced intellects.

That basically, the elites, police, the vast number of Freemasons, judicial systems, political systems, etc are composed of higher than normal intellects but are STILL of a capacity to be encircled by more capable intelligences. Easily so.

For example, I'm capable of being one who could contrive such systems of encapsulation, but I'd never do such things, as the greater reach also encompasses a greater understanding of what this place is, and it's connectivity.

I'd never be so ****ing foolish.

Basically, humanity is in a very dangerous moment when the middle management intellects are pressing the buttons and levers, in their fears and mental pops and burns, as they come to terms with the greater universal truths.

The world may pay the price for such insanities, if the people don't come alive and help them back down from what is actually their own internal issues and has virtually nothing to do with what is going on in the external world.

My estimate is that beyond a human equivalent IQ of approximately 200, there is no reason to be physical. So, if indeed they are dealing with alien and dimensional races that may produce threat actions and patterns, it is that those being and entities are..for the larger part.... no more developed than humans.

Recall, that among the bits heard, is that, for example, the reptilian race, or at least one, is frozen in ritualistic motions and acts. Apparently for about 50,000 plus years, they have had no change... this means no advancement and that they are not thousands of years ahead in unfathomable technologies and knowledge but only MERE DECADES, once the alien presence and over unity technologies are publicly known among the larger human group...

That is what some are afraid of. Humans be very, very, very ...pissed off.

The vast majority of 'other' interactions with humans be it dimensional or what some might call 'alien' (a ridiculous term in a literal multi-universe with a probable thousands of humanoid variants which also spans dimensions), is of a benign nature, or a less problematic nature. The near billions of interactions are not harmful. Very few are harmful, and those are the ones that are emphasized, due to the human avatar's autonomous survival mechanisms being front and center as a filter in thought formation and bodily action. The very idea of the prominence of the idea of the horror film shows this to be explicit in the human avatar condition.

To add to the nightmare, the middle management of this mess is not evolved enough to go beyond the basic mechanism of manipulation via fear, so their tactics involve war, butchery, fear, oppression, etc.


The end result, is that the technologies they are hiding from us are not thousands of years ahead, they are simply the next wide plateau of technological advancement, and it can take place in decades, not thousands of years. Since the general public does not understand the advancements in technology and the expansion of the given ideas of life and the universe, it SEEMS, from the slightly unknowing position to be built of giant complexities.

But it is not.

Make NO mistake, though, with regard to the general public, it is going to take a HUGE leap in intellectual rumination, education, and control of their base emotional considerations, in order to bridge this gap safely.

The problem is that this understanding is apparently NOT in the reach of most of those who manipulate in ignorance, that middle intellect sociopath warmongering group, who are under the impression that human development and society is something they have to guide and protect.

They should be guiding and protecting it, serving it wholly, and not using it like a piece of meat they eat on their way to a given top position. That is the animal way, the avatar driven way...not the living breathing intellectual and self development way.

When these individuals physically die, they will be given an opportunity to consider a corrective factor in this misstep of theirs. They are advised to move on that consideration, while still alive and in the flesh. After the fact means the given mode and moment, is over.


Basic logic in analysis of the data.. dictates that if there are humanoid or similar universal races that are not really more advanced than we are but are out there exploring and connecting..and if some were nasty, the current shape of the human world would not stand a chance and all of us would be gone and nonthinking, long ago. Long ago. the fact that we exist and are in the moment of a coming interaction with such groups means that, in all appearance and record of act... the biggest problem we have is OUR OWN leadership and that given leadership's ---- insanity.


Back to this issue of Canadian freedoms, potentials, and the response from the middle management illiterate machine of psychosis and paranoia:

Posted by Carmody (here)
They will push the bill through and enact it and then activate all the mechanisms they've built to utilize the system that will be legalized.

A madman does not need more than a few seconds of access in order to remove life from your body.

Getting to your door and getting the foot in it, is the tail end of a planned long term situation.

Having the bill enacted is a serious problem as by then it will be too late.

Any effort to challenge it in the Canadian supreme court will be slowed down by likely years to a decade.

By then ......it will be 9.75 years to late, as nothing will be left by that time. The idea of a supreme court challenge is immaterial in a wasteland of destruction where a supreme court no longer exists.

The bill is only a key to a door, with a full preparation and enactment waiting behind it's facade.

Just like the few seconds of the madman at the door.


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this is the game that was played out with the 9/11 scenario. They pulled a pre-planned 1000 page tome called the 'patriot act', out of a drawer, dusted it off, and threw it into congress.

That patriot act, took years of work to build and put together. One thousand pages of complex and specifically targeted and carefully built and phrased legalese.

Yet, it appeared, on the scene, just after 9/11, in a matter of what, three weeks.... and then was pushed through congress in a matter of largely .....minutes.

The patriot act was only a masthead, a figurehead for a deeply built pre-exsiting system that was built and ready to go, in it's fundamentals, and then extrapolated and built into a giant machine in the post patriot act scenario.

So when you are looking at this bill c-51 scenario, remember the lessons of how these things actually work.

After the foot of the bill is in the door,and it is enacted, the door is pushed open, the machine that was pre-built rolls through and takes out everything, and no supreme court, will of the people, or capacity to organize, will exist after the fact, to have a chance of fixing it. a wasteland will be the result, so no plans of fixing it are likely to be viable, at all.

Grow up, stand your ground, recognize what you deal with.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi still catching up but wanted to comment:

Hi Flash, Its hard to say isn't it? Canada is the second largest geographical country in the world with only 36 million people. We take in about 800,000 new immigrants annually. There is a push to get rid of the foreign workers program and allow anyone who comes to Canada for a job the path to citizenship right away instead of a Visa. That could be the creation of a borderless NA union with very tight borders but anyone could move anywhere providing you bought property or have a job in a country. This "global immigration plan" is always about money and economics-its about getting countrol of resources and bypassing soverign nations for the purposes of taking the riches and having the poorest people doing the work. Beware of anyone who believes the path to wealth is cutting governments (the democratic people's voice) role in funding education, health and social programs-they do this to keep you down and poor. Canada is an example to be watched in this regard as is comparing the USA of the 50's and 60's to the USA of today.

I have direct evidence that British Columbia has a policy of keeping other residents of Canada out by various methods. In a conversation I had with a high official I was given access to through a friend, I was warned not to take the provincial test for electrical trade equivalency. When I asked why, after having taken the test once and inexplicably failing (I took a three month course to prepare for the exam), I was told it is designed and worded to be failed. I did not take the advice (my bane) and failed again. I came back to Ontario and passed with high marks...

This was in the eighties when migrating tradesmen were putting the infrastructure of western cities under duress by the influx of workers. It was boon times and the western folk were afraid of the newcomers, they were afraid for their jobs and businesses. The west is in general more zenophobic than the east, probably with good reason.

edit to add: that test allowed two tries per lifetime. Two fails and you can never be an electrician in BC! The week I came back to Toronto, the red seal portion (inter-provincial license that must be honored throughout Canada) of the exam was not offered, so I never did get that coveted designation due to 'red tape' mix up (proffered reason: test had been stolen)

[Ernie Nemeth]

The idea of the middle manager, who contributes nothing and is graded on their ability to implement regulations and policies that reduce the productivity of others, is a pet peeve of mine.

Somehow, the value of the worker has been downplayed to the point that the workers don't value themselves. Everything in this world was made and provided by the workers. Those that get their hands dirty. And still to this day they are exploited without mercy. Somehow the citizens have forgotten how much they owe to the waitress, farmer, tradesman, nurse, miner, fabricator, machine operator...and the many who support them in their work are beholden to them. Without them there would be nothing but a fire in a pit, and maybe some good ideas without any to make them real and tangible (but the two usually come in one package).

All government is a burden we all must shoulder collectively. It is not a producer. It is a product of production and as such it has a cost and is classified as a liability in accounting terms. Does any government justify a third of my daily work? Can any logical argument be put forward where I would have to agree that I should go to work for two hours every day to support it? And that is just my sweat for up front costs. Where can an argument for the long-term effects of taxes on everything I buy and the inflationary forces eroding the buying power of my savings come from, where a further three to four hours of my work each day will be stolen from me in the future?

How can any support the way we live? I have never understood it.

And now my (I say 'my' with the most vitriolic sarcasm) government wants to escalate the violations already perpetrated by allowing their fascists overlords and their world-domineering agenda to gain purchase in our land.

Disgraceful.

[Carmody]

government and financial systems were designed from the ground up, as a system of hiding the existence of oligarchy and monarchy from the notice and mental world view of the masses.

If they can't see it, if they can't cognate it, they can't respond.

It's initial idea,money, was a way of keeping record of value, via enforcement of record of value. It did not take more than a few days for it to be seen as an avenue into other things. The insertion of lies and control of lies.

And look where we are now. A cesspool of excess and insanity.

[Flash]

bumping

I have no idea what to write except for the following question: why in the overall scheme of thing, and I mean universal, universal life and development, do we have to go through this system? Is this system what it is because it must be, or is it what it is because some kind of viruses have been introduced into it (in this case, psychopathy, but it could be like that for the whole planet, plants, animals, etc., with their own viruses.)
I have heard that being hammered by painful expériences makes one grow and develop (heard from Carmody and others). Then what makes us having to develop in a painfilled way and what is the end target?

Maybe a Creator who has learned from its mistake before creating anew? who knows.

But hey, Harper is still there, even if the whole East abhores it (it is an abomination) and worst, Netanyaho has been reelected (although he may have stolen part of the election, i would not be surprised) !! How far non thinking masses will go?

[Ernie Nemeth]

I believe this system is a normal progression for a civilization at our level of organization - which is to say just this side of civilized. We are still in the warrior/hoarding mentality. We think in terms of us and them - with strong nationalistic inclinations. And that once necessary distinction of us and them no longer serves us but most of us are not yet aware of that fact.

That is our biggest problem: that there is not even a word in our vocabulary for what we are right now. We are not civilized - but we call ourselves that. And since the next step is a true civilization and the word and its meaning have been hijacked we don't know what comes next.

We are not civilized, that is our problem - but we think we are. Since we think we are civilized already, we don't understand what it is we need now. To be civil is to include everyone, to refrain from judgement, to empower all and to respect all - to have reverence for all life. Those are fundamentals that we have yet to embrace. Until we do we are just glorified savages with a dangerous penchant for violence.

[lightseeker]

Carmody, I agree with your comment that we are all dealing with fascists. I have no liking for the Harper zio/nazi regime. The about to be passed bill c-51, Canada's version of the Patriot Act, will be the potential final blow to our democracy, especially should Harper win the next election in 2016. There are a few videos on youtube wherein Elizabeth May, leader of the Green Party, along with others, goes into some detail in explaining the damage this bill will cause. Canada in essence will no longer have free speech, the right to protest will end in mass arrests. CSIS will have the write without warrant to arrest and imprison.

Also included in the bill ( is possibly the creation of a secret intell agency) above and beyond CSIS. Then of course we have CSEC, the Canadian Security Establishment Canada, Canada's version of the NSA, located next to CSIS headquarters in Ottawa, just a 20 minute walk from my home. Which has always had a very close working realationship with CSEC and CSIS for many years.

Many Canadians are starting to wake up regarding the damage the Harper regime has done during the 10 years in power. One can only hope that the next election will get rid of this cancer.

We also have three or possibly 4 previous pri-ministers both conservative and liberal speaking out against this bill.

What are we to do, I am seeing my country going down the toilet; there is no guarantee that it either the NDP of Liberals should create a majority governments or a co-alition gov't. in the next election that they will change or or dis avow bill c-51.

[Carmody]

It won't be gotten rid of by an election, unless a separate non-influenced person rises up, with a good solid following, a person that has no connection to the media, corporations, or governments .....and that person would have to be protected 24/7.

We are dealing with a two party system in which both parties and the process are all corrupt.

The exact same way it is in the USA.

It is the illusion of choice.

It really has gone that far, and it's been that way for a long long time.

each day, getting worse and worse. finally we'll all be dumb animal servants genetically modified servants for a genetically modified ruling class, who will be subservient to a smaller group who is really running the show.

The only reason we are seeing it these days, is that the pace has picked up considerably in the recent past.

Things really sped up in this plan and it's execution, from about 1970 or so, when the world nearly broke free. The ruling groups panicked, and it's been the hammer, in all ways, since then. Worse and worse, every day. at the same time people are seeing it happen and are protesting, so they find more knives and find more fear based controls and twist them into people, as the people are in danger of breaking free.

We really are, finally, getting to the knee of the curve. Destroying the fabric of Canada and turning it into a vassal state of the USA, in order to create a North American single state...is part of a very long in the tooth PLAN, and they'll kill anything that gets in the way of that.

ever since the idea of Canada happened, after the 1776 war, those from that part of the plan, from down south, they have plotted and schemed to get the rest of the continent back into their hands. They are on the verge of getting it, and they'll push any button, turn over any rock and move any mountain to get that done. And they are now in the position to do it, and they are moving fast.

Bill C-51 has nothing to with terrorism, it has to do with getting control of Canada and tearing down the last barriers, which is the people of Canada, as some of them wake up and see what is going on --and try to stop it.

[applepie]

Here is more coverage of the legal case

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1290...mf-conspiracy/