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    Default Wes Penre's levels of learning

    Wes Penre has just released his 5th, and final level, of learning.

    http://wespenre.com/

    His extensive research covers everything from metaphysics, ET masters, human origins, cosmic wars, A.I., Lucifer’s rebellion, Spirituality, channelling, transhumanism, Sumerian & Egyptian mythology and in level 5 The Vedic texts.

    I highly recommend his fascinating and comprehensive research as I personally haven’t come across any other work that mirrors his analysis. Many of his conclusions differ from other researchers and he has the following to say about his journey.


    Quote Important to understand is that this is my journey and everything in here is according to my research, and/or my own experiences and conclusions. Your journey may be slightly, or entirely different from mine, which means that I am not looking for "followers", and have no wish to be a "guru" or authority on any subject. Those who have read my work from earlier years can easily see how my path has developed to the point where I am today. Hopefully, I will continue growing spiritually so that I am somewhere totally different in a few years from now, in a whole new level of reality.

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    Default Re: Wes Penre's levels of learning

    I'll try to find time to sort through all of his PDFs later, but thanks for posting this.

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    Default Re: Wes Penre's levels of learning

    Hello Clarity.

    I've been following with great satisfaction and gratitude this magnificent work of Wes Penre ..

    The level five of learning that aims to bring light to our understanding of the Vedas texts, are not yet fully finalized. There are 16 proposed papers, of which 11 have already been published (Paper Number 11 was published on 13.02.2015).

    To stir the curiosity of friends, the Vedas texts being analyzed in detail in 5 level, also provide inspiration for scientists at CERN an others, as can be seen in the images below.

    Shiva's Cosmic (particles) Dance at CERN






    Another 'coincidence' between the old 'gods' and 'modern' technology.

    CERN's two-year shutdown drawing to a close

    Hugs.

    Naste.
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    Default Re: Wes Penre's levels of learning

    His research (aside from Tom Campbell who I also like) is some of the best out there IMO. He's gone at it like a forensic scientist. I read all his papers as soon as they come out. Love them.

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    Thank you so much for this! I had been following Wes Penre up until the time of the whole Suprieme Rockefeller incident, which put me off as I figured he had become compromised - I had no idea he has since continued his stellar work. Really appreciate the heads up, I now have a number of e-books to download.

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    I know, I was also turned off by the Supriem info- as far as I know, Wes still believes it (I recall just recently in a paper he said he had some new info/was going to address it).

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    Quote Posted by ERK (here)
    I know, I was also turned off by the Supriem info- as far as I know, Wes still believes it (I recall just recently in a paper he said he had some new info/was going to address it).
    I'm new to all of this. Can you guys explain what exactly you're referring to with this Rockefeller stuff?

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    Quote Posted by bsbray (here)
    Quote Posted by ERK (here)
    I know, I was also turned off by the Supriem info- as far as I know, Wes still believes it (I recall just recently in a paper he said he had some new info/was going to address it).
    I'm new to all of this. Can you guys explain what exactly you're referring to with this Rockefeller stuff?
    The Myth Around Supriem David Rockefeller - By Wes Penre, 2009 - Published for Public View on June 16, 2009

    This e-book version published on September 5, 2010

    His full name is Supriem David Rockefeller, a 35 year old man who says he is Marduk Ra and Lucifer redeemed, the Messiah the world has been waiting for and the Bible has been telling us about. Is this is the man secret societies have been waiting for and prepared for since ancienttimes? He says he is the one who rebelled against God, The Universal Father, and caused the Wars in Heaven. He is the one who created ‘sin’ and is the reason the world is in the shape it’s in.

    According to himself, after thousands of years in exile, he has now returned in the body of Supriem Rockefeller, but has redeemed himself. Instead of bringing the world to its knees and fulfill the End Time Prophecies, he has decided to save the world he once had the purpose to destroy. Upon all this, he is also the Jewish Messiah. When he visits Israel, he is treated like a God.

    Is he telling the truth? And is Lucifer really equivalent to Satan? If not, then who is he?

    Hopefully this e-book will bring some understand to who he really is…

    Source: http://wespenre.com/e-books.htm
    Source: http://www.illuminati-news.com/supriem-rockefeller.pdf

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    Default Re: Wes Penre's levels of learning

    Thank you, Clarity. I am in the middle of the second level, aspiring for the fourth in which I have personal interest, as I was led to the Camelot/Avalon interviews in the beginning of my wake up call, parallel with another material that offered information about Anu and the Sumerian gods. Israel is believed to have a close relationship and cooperation with the Anunnaki species.. There is quite a lot of correlation and bell ringing on the side of truth, at least with what I read so far, but there is still way to go.. all in all, it is a fascinating reading.

    I was suggested to read the 4 level by a valued researcher who was sent this by another researcher due to Wes talking about the Anu, annunaki, Enki, Enlil and the mythological gods and creator Gods, the ones in the initial rebellion, and how their names and characteristics got mixed up, slandered and all manner of confusion because of the rebellion and Earth takeover by the Enki/Marduk/Satan/Lucifer head "god".

    Some more informaton on Wes Penre,his esseys and articles can be found here

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post904777
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    I spent a lot of time reading Wes Penre's articles, like many weeks of doing not much else but devouring article after article, and he led me to look at a lot of various information sources. I started out very into what he was doing, but after a lot of reading, I started to find things he was saying that I didn't agree with. And that's fine. We all have our own point of view and our own personal fascinations.

    But with the way he does things, if you make errors in logic, critical thinking, good judgement, or are lacking perspective, these things can really start to pile up and distort his process of truthseeking. I'd probably have to write at least a dozen long articles of my own to explain where I feel Wes went awry in some areas. But suffice to say, I haven't read any of his newer articles. He just lost me at some point with some of his conclusions that he decided to run with and with some of the things he takes seriously.

    But it was a fun ride figuring out why I disagree with him a lot of things, and I would recommend others do the same. Just don't take his opinions as gospel, that's all.
    "The total number of minds in the universe is one." - Erwin Schrödinger

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    ^^^ Same, good advice as I have not always agreed with some of the conclusions and things he chooses to believe.

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    I think Wes was my wake up call. I came across him when researching due to the fact that I felt a lot of things in the world are unjust, horrible, and untrue, but I wondered what was happening. In addition, certain people came into my life that were sane, but told me unusual things. I read his material, with information of the likes of Fritz Springmeier, 13 bloodlines, ancient mythology, and Illuminati 101. The fact he moved up the levels very quickly, yet felt disillusioned, was quite important. He decided that love was the only thing of importance in this world and his significant other in an Illuminati system did not agree with him dealing with this. I am sure there is more to his story, which is a good one. I have admiration for Wes, who writes about available information very well.

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    Default Re: Wes Penre's levels of learning

    I started reading that Supriem Rockefeller PDF, and Penre says himself that "reality" is nothing but a set of beliefs that we may or may not agree upon, in so many words. I can agree with that. So then the question will come later as to whether or not I choose to see things his way, even if he's a genuine source. The PDF is 300 pages so until I get time to read beyond page 10 or so, I guess the jury will be out for me..

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    Thanks for the update. If he still believes in Supriem, that is OK with me even though I do not. I have been looking at his work, and he is doing some really excellent writing. I see no evidence of an Agenda reflecting that he is compromised, so will be enjoying going through the parts of his work I missed over the years.

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    I must add my 2 cents to this thread. I don't often post but I do check out Bill's blog daily and do read what is going on .

    My wake up was Project Camelot when both Bill and Kerry where still working together . I have continued to read and learn from both Kerry and Bill. It was Kerry who brought my attention to Wes Penre's website. I have been reading his work from its beginning to the present.

    I find his research is detailed and impeccable. I have learned a great deal from what her writes. It has helped me with my understanding the world we live in.

    As someone mentioned there is still more to come, with an additional 5 more papers to publish. I look forward to them all.

    I would highly recommend everyone to read all his work from its beginning to the present and onward.

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    Quote Posted by arwen (here)
    Thanks for the update. If he still believes in Supriem, that is OK with me even though I do not. I have been looking at his work, and he is doing some really excellent writing. I see no evidence of an Agenda reflecting that he is compromised, so will be enjoying going through the parts of his work I missed over the years.

    I don't believe in the Supriem stuff either. I think it's complete bollocks.

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    He now delves into the Supriem info again with his latest paper-

    http://wespenre.com/5/paper12-the-aldebaran-paper.htm

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    The Wes Penre Papers – Excellent material that everyone should read, in my opinion and those in the know!


    http://www.wespenre.com/index.htm

    For anyone wanting to understand an accurate account of our history and what has and is going on I highly recommend these, it is goldmine of information which is well researched and presented

    I am told the section on ‘Lucifer’s rebellion is well worth researching. Paper II, Genises Paper 7, The Atlanteans and the Misuse of Energy, Section 6 Link below:-

    http://www.wespenre.com/2/atlanteans...-or-energy.htm


    Here's a few paragraphs from the introduction on Section 6
    There have been many cataclysms in Earth's history, and many, many different species were genetically engineered, manipulated and abandoned. Some of them, once they didn't get any support from their creator gods anymore, moved underground and to inaccessible areas of the world (like jungles, remote areas, and up in the mountains), and many of them still live there. If people only knew how many different species are dwelling in Earth's interior they would be stunned, and some of them look very different from us.

    In theory, I could have summarized what I wanted to say in maybe 50 instead of 1,000+ pages (Level I+II), but it's very important that we know our true past, including how we've been (and certainly still are) manipulated, so we can understand present time and make good decisions for our future. We can't understand the present alien agendas if we don't understand our true past, leading up to our current situation (which has everything to do with alien agendas). This is why history is so important, and also one of the most altered subjects in school. The manipulators know that if we know next to nothing about our origins, it's a piece of cake to control us. Therefore, if they give us amnesia between lives and alter our history, they can do almost anything to us.
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    Hello, Yelik, I agree with you that Wes Penre's papers are a good and important reading, as with everything else is best to be read with discernement.

    A previous thread was opened here -

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post933116

    (and you may want to attach your recoomendation to it)

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    Thanks Limor Wolf, perhaps the threads need merging

    and yes, nobody knows all the truth, we can only make our best guess judgement based on available information, which is largely disinfo I'm sad to say. Although this guy has done a pretty good job all round, he has my greatest respect for dedicating so much time and effort into producing these
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