50 Shades of Grey – Pedophilia Hiding In Plain Sight

[magnum]

the sexual impulse and energy is the easiest thing for the controllers to manipulate and FEED ON..distorting healthy sexuality and the relationships between men and women is one of the most powerful ways to keep humanity stuck in sexual misery and disconnection....and then along comes "50 shades of grey"..pretty obvious agenda in that programming

..then there is the obvious SATANIC practice of rewiring the nervous systems pleasure-pain centers so that people start to experience pleasure when they are in pain..welcome to the world of BDSM..the satanic-luciferian forces get great pleasure out of pain and if you do the same you are starting to blend with the satanic-luciferian force.

[Aspen]

Another point of view would be that the adult male person in this relationship had been hurt by the trauma of childhood sexual abuse. If he had healed from the trauma of the sexually abusive relationship that occurred while he was a teenager, then maybe he could have become capable of the relationship the main character, the 21 year old female, was looking for. As a trauma therapist I have met men who were sexually abused around puberty and beyond. It is not unusual for a pedophile to take advantage of the raging hormones of an adult male going through puberty and to groom them into participating in sexual activities that primarily serve the needs of the adult. In the research done on childhood sexual abuse, it has been discovered that many children are abused by the same person over a period of years. So indirectly the book IS about pedophiles. It is a story about the long term harm that can occur as a result of sexual abuse. About 25% of all women have been sexually abused before the age of 18 and they can testify to the fact that sexual abuse can have a negative impact on your adult sexuality. A sexual relationship between emotionally healthy adults can be so much more. I believe that this type of entertainment is a way of preventing the spiritual level union that can and should occur by degrading sexuality.

[magnum]

yeah..I agree with most of that.Another thing to consider is that men and women are conditioned to think that if they just find the right partner all their problems will be solved and they will live happily ever after...this is programmed into us from as soon as we can read with all the fairytales etc.

The thing is that both sides of the relationship in this movie are emotionally very fractured and are going to attract broken people..so this statement you made was interesting Aspen

"If he had healed from the trauma of the sexually abusive relationship that occurred while he was a teenager, then maybe he could have become capable of the relationship the main character, the 21 year old female, was looking for"

..it may be wiser for that emotionally fragmented female to do some more inner work and not be "looking for" someone to come and save her..the same old programming.

[magnum]

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/mkultra...des-grey-film/

"The symbolism I saw in the film was that of mind control. The dominant handler (Christian Grey) was definitely playing mind games with this innocent young girl."

[Aspen]

Hi Magnum, I thought it was interesting what you said about the Satanic Luciferian forces getting great pleasure of the pain and that they would like to see us do the same. As a little girl I was tied to a tree after being beaten by a 14 year old and he started to do sexual things, but fortunately he was stopped. Just this one act changed my life and sometimes during sex I am triggered into flashbacks and it is like you say that sometimes things get turned around and the pain is connected with pleasure. Receiving pain at the same time as receiving pleasure is kind of a metaphor for the society we live in today. Many people spend hours on video games where they are killing others and they learn to receive a kind of pleasure from it. Even all the crime shows, westerns, horror movies etc. are quite similar. We are continually being traumatized in the media. Even just watching the news and yet we are expected to have a sense of exhilaration and satisfaction linked to these horrible images. Lately I have been watching the Netflix series "The 100." My husband and I both find it uncomfortably intense. He was saying he knows of few shows where it is normal to blood on your face throughout the show.

As far as the young woman in The 50 Shades of Grey being fractured, I wouldn't know - as I didn't watch the show. When I wrote the above excerpt it was with the assumption that many men and women are sexually attracted to someone on a physical level and sometimes allow themselves to get involved sexually before they really get to know the character of the person. We are attracted to people on a chemical biological level. It is one aspect of attraction. I assumed that this was the case in this story. I know in my practice as a trauma therapist that about 25 percent of all women have been sexually abused before age 18 and so many are fractured. It is more than just the programming of the media, although that also reinforces the messages of submission and control that the Luciferian agenda loves. It is great to see any efforts to teach youth the ideal of a romantic relationship between equals. The minister that did our premarital counselling taught us that we need to give to each other 100 percent in order to keep the relationship strong. And thankfully I am married to a gentle soul and we do give 100% to the relationship. It has undone a lot of harm from the past. I think the programming could quickly be turned around if healthier people had influence over the media agenda and the education system. Thankfully some still do!

[Flash]

Posted by magnum (here)
the sexual impulse and energy is the easiest thing for the controllers to manipulate and FEED ON..distorting healthy sexuality and the relationships between men and women is one of the most powerful ways to keep humanity stuck in sexual misery and disconnection....and then along comes "50 shades of grey"..pretty obvious agenda in that programming

..then there is the obvious SATANIC practice of rewiring the nervous systems pleasure-pain centers so that people start to experience pleasure when they are in pain..welcome to the world of BDSM..the satanic-luciferian forces get great pleasure out of pain and if you do the same you are starting to blend with the satanic-luciferian force.

I have been told by someone in this forum - and it makes sense to me - that to get to mind control someone you have to mix in pain, pleasure and love. At that point it is a definite hook for control.

[Star Tsar]

Posted by magnum (here)
It is child porn. Kiddie porn.

I don't think there is such thing as child "porn". Porn is consentual, Abuse is not sorry for nitpicking but I feel its an important distinction.

[shadowstalker]

[avid]

Why are we 'compelled' to watch controversial 'pornography'? This film has gone viral, so was the book, do we really need this 'kick-up-the-btm' to keep reminding us to be mind-controlled in our every-day lives? This is a WAKE-UP CALL to see that we are so gullible, and can grovel at the feet of the extreme media, whether in our best interests or not.

[Anchor]

For your interest:

I will link the source, but it is from an internet pornography site so I wont make it easy for you to click. www. p o r n hub.com/insights/50-shades-bdsm-searches/

Cinema has come to affect our lives and views in real and meaningful ways. For instance, after the release of the film Sideways, Merlot became more difficult to move off of shelves while Pinot Noir enjoyed a 16% spike in sales. Deer hunting decreased by nearly half for a few years after Bambi. In the same vein, the recent release of the film adaptation of 50 Shades of Grey has been shaking things up over here at Pornhub. Specifically, people are getting freakier in their pornographic preferences and we’ve got the data to prove it.

There’s no real debate here; since the now infamous film was released over Valentine’s Day weekend, BDSM related searches have seen a significant increase on Pornhub. The charts below trace BDSM related searches during the days leading up to and then immediately following the film’s February 13th release date. When comparing this activity in the US to the rest of the world as well as to women versus men, the specific traffic patterns follow the same general rises and falls, with a few exceptions. Overall, it seems that the press tour leading up to the premiere helped things along a little, with a decent increase in BDSM searches having been observed the weekend before, over the 6th through the 8th of February.

The 13th marks the real threshold though, with searches for words like ‘submission,’ ‘spank,’ and ‘bondage’ among others, increasing in the US by over 20% and by nearly 40% in women. Suffice it to say, our female users have definitely been channeling their inner Anastasia Steele’s.
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(BTW: In case you were wondering, I found this through reddit and not by browsing porn !)

[shadowstalker]

25 Facts About BDSM That You Won’t Learn In “Fifty Shades Of Grey”

1. First things first: Here’s what BDSM actually stands for:

BDSM includes bondage and discipline (B&D), dominance and submission (D&S), and sadism & masochism (S&M). The terms are lumped together that way because BDSM can be a lot of different things to different people with different preferences, BDSM writer and educator Clarisse Thorn, author of The S&M Feminist, tells BuzzFeed Life. Most of the time, a person’s interests fall into one or two of those categories, rather than all of them.

2. It doesn’t always involve sex, but it can.

Most people think BDSM is always tied to sex, and while it can be for some people, others draw a hard line between the two. “Both are bodily experiences that are very intense and sensual and cause a lot of very strong feelings in people who practice them, but they’re not the same thing,” says Thorn. The metaphor she uses for it: a massage. Sometimes a massage, however sensual it feels, is just a massage. For others, a rubdown pretty much always leads to sex. It’s kind of similar with BDSM; it’s a matter of personal and sexual preference.

3. There is nothing inherently wrong or damaged with people if they’re into it.

This is one of the most common and frustrating misconceptions about BDSM, says Thorn. BDSM isn’t something that emerges from abuse or domestic violence, and engaging in it does not mean that you enjoy abuse or abusing.

Instead, enjoying BDSM is just one facet of someone’s sexuality and lifestyle. “It’s just regular people who happen to get off that way,” sex expert Gloria Brame, Ph.D., author of Different Loving, tells BuzzFeed Life. “It’s your neighbors and your teachers and the people bagging your groceries. The biggest myth is that you need this special set of circumstances. It’s regular people who have a need for that to be their intimate dynamic.”

4. Know that you can always say no.

“A lot of people starting out think it’s ‘all or nothing,’ especially if you’ve only been with one partner,” says Thorn. For instance, you might think that because you enjoyed being submissive under certain circumstances, that means you must agree to a whole host of submissive or masochistic behaviors that you’re not necessarily into.

But that’s absolutely wrong. You can — and should — pick and choose which BDSM activities you are and are not interested in, says Thorn. And that can vary depending on the situation, the partner, or even the day. Just remember that consent is a requirement in BDSM, and it’s possible to consent to one thing while still objecting to another.

5. BDSMers are just as stable as people who prefer vanilla sex.

“In my experience, it’s easier for people to get into BDSM if they don’t have a history of abuse, people who are in a more stable place in their lives,” says Thorn. A 2008 study in the Journal of Sexual Medicine found that people who had engaged in BDSM in the past year were no more likely to have been coerced into sexual activity and were no more likely to be unhappy or anxious than those who didn’t do BDSM. And actually, men who engaged in BDSM had lower scores of psychological distress than other men.
That said, BDSMers do not judge people who aren’t into it, explains Thorn. The term “vanilla” isn’t meant to be derogatory, just to refer to non-BDSM sexual acts or people who aren’t interested in kink.

6. Fifty Shades of Grey is considered very cringeworthy in the BDSM community.

If you ever find yourself at a BDSM meet-up or dungeon, don’t mention any shade of grey. While some people appreciate that the books spurred more interest in kink and may have made it less stigmatized, others take issue with the abusive, unhealthy relationship it portrays and the seriously unrealistic scenes. All in all, it is not an accurate representation of the BDSM community.

7. It’s not all whips and chains all the time — or ever, if that’s not your thing.

Sure, some S&M enthusiasts might have these in their arsenal, but it’s definitely not everyone’s cup of kink. “Some people go for what’s called ‘sensual dominance,’ which is where there might be some toys or play but no pain involved at all,” says Brame. “It’s more like one partner agrees to do everything the other person asks. BDSM doesn’t have to follow any pattern, and there is no one model for what a BDSM relationship can be.”

8. BDSM encounters are called “scenes.”

Again, since it isn’t always about intercourse, you wouldn’t necessarily say that you “had sex” or “hooked up” with someone after a BDSM experience. Instead, these are called scenes (like, you scened with someone or you had a scene).

“It’s an evolution from a time where, if you did S&M, you might only do it with a professional for an hour, or you might just see it performed at a BDSM club,” says Brame. “Now people have much more organic relationships, but they still call it a scene — the time when we bring out the toys or get into that headspace.”

9. There are dominants, submissives, tops, and bottoms.

So you’ve probably heard about dominants and submissives (if not, the dominant enjoys being in charge, while the submissive enjoys receiving orders). But BDSMers may also use the terms “tops” and “bottoms” to describe themselves. A top could refer to a dominant or a sadist (someone who enjoys inflicting pain), while a bottom could refer to a submissive or a masochist (someone who enjoys receiving pain). This allows you to have a blanket term for those who generally like being on either the giving or receiving end in a BDSM encounter. And there’s no rule that says you can’t be both dominant and submissive in different circumstances or with different partners.

10. It can be as simple or as technical as you want.

Maybe the thought of being tied up excites you, or you enjoy spanking or being spanked. Or maybe you’re more interested in leather masks and nipple clamps and hot wax. All of that (and obviously a lot more) is within the realm of BDSM. Basically, you can still be into kink without actually ever going to a dungeon.

11. Before you go past the VERY basics, do your research.

Using a blindfold or an ice cube or fuzzy handcuffs you got at a bachelorette party are all relatively harmless beginner behaviors if you’re into them. But before you play around with some of the trickier tools, you need to learn how to do so safely. Even a rope or a whip can be dangerous if you don’t know what you’re doing.

Hell, you can even mess up with your own hands (think: fisting): “[Some people] think they can clench a fist and stick it inside somebody,” says Brame. “That’s a good way to really injure someone and send them to the hospital.” (Instead, she suggests an “enormous amount of lubricant” and starting with two or three fingers, then slowly and carefully building up to the whole hand.)

12. Seriously, BDSM involves A LOT of reading and learning.

If you’re one of those people who throws away the directions and tries to build the bookshelf on intuition alone, BDSM is probably not for you. “I would say the vast majority of what we call BDSM education is how to maximize ecstasy and minimize risk,” says Brame. “How to do all the things you fantasized about doing and to do them safely.”

While there’s no one required reading list, there seem to be a few favorites that are often recommended to beginners, like SM 101 by Jay Wiseman, Screw the Roses, Send Me the Thorns, by Phillip Miller and Molly Devon, and The New Topping Book and The New Bottoming Book by Janet Hardy and Dossie Easton. [Editor’s note: Have others you’d suggest? Please add them in the comments!]
Classes, conferences, and meet-ups are also helpful for learning specific techniques, says Thorn. Another popular resource is FetLife.com, a Facebook-like network for the kink community, which can connect you with message boards, groups, and classes in your area.

13. It’s important to get your information from a variety of sources.

One mistake many people make when first experimenting with BDSM is relying on one person to show them the way. Even if they do have your best interest at heart (and they might not), it can be limiting to only have one perspective on something that is so multidimensional, says Thorn. Instead, seek out books, workshops, meet-ups, mentors, friends, message boards, and more to find a safe place to explore your interests.

“When you can’t talk about what’s happening and you can’t make sense of your experience with like-minded people, that’s way more dangerous than the variety of activities you might fantasize about,” says Thorn.

14. Safe words are definitely a thing.

It might sound cheesy, but it’s a well-established norm in BDSM. (And hey, your safe word could actually be “cheesy” if you want. You do you.) “Safe words are probably one of the most important norms that have spread across the community, even if people use them in different ways,” says Thorn. For instance, not everyone uses safe words all the time after a while, but it’s important to start out with them. They can essentially be anything you want, as long as it’s something that you wouldn’t normally say during sex. You can find more info about safe words here.

15. And at some public events, there are even safety monitors on duty.

“Dungeon monitors will kick out people who don’t look like they’re playing safely,” says Brame. This can be anything from ignoring safe words to using a whip incorrectly. Seriously, did we mention that safety is paramount here? In fact, the acronym SSC (safe, sane, consensual) is one of the most common pillars of the practice.

16. It’s not as spontaneous as Hollywood movies or porn make it out to be.

Getting swept up in the moment and accidentally stumbling into a millionaire’s red room (where you’ll have multiple orgasms) is probably not going to happen to you ever. But, that’s not necessarily a bad thing. “The sexual fantasy makes everything look so easy,” says Brame. “People who actually do this stuff are very cautious about it. It has to be the right place and right time and right equipment. And you have to know you can get the person out [of whatever bondage] if there’s an emergency. You have to feel you can trust the person.” So there’s a lot that goes into one scene, but that doesn’t mean it’s any less satisfying for those who enjoy it.

17. There’s also probably way more talking involved than there is with (most) vanilla sex.

Whenever people question the role of consent in BDSM, they should consider the enormous amount of communication that occurs before, during, and after the scenes. “We talk about it hugely before we ever do it,” says Brame. “We talk about what we want to do, what we’re going to do, what our fantasies are… that’s part of negotiating a good relationship as a BDSMer.”

18. There’s actually a pre-negotiation period, where the partners discuss what they like, what they don’t like, and what they absolutely will not tolerate.

Think of this as the primer before the scene. “It’s a way of discussing the experience ahead of time that can increase emotional security,” says Thorn. This can involve anything from scripts and checklists to a more informal discussion of what each person’s expectations are for the scene, what they want and don’t want, and any words or actions that are completely off-limits.

19. And then comes aftercare, the debriefing period that happens once the scene ends.

Since BDSM can be an incredibly intense and emotional experience for some, most experts strongly suggest this wrap-up step, where the partners can discuss the scene and any reactions they had to it. “People are extremely vulnerable during aftercare,” says Thorn. “It can be really weird to have a scene without it.” This can also be a strong bonding experience between the partners.

20. BDSMers can be monogamous, polyamorous, or whatever the hell they want.

Not everyone who’s interested in BDSM has multiple sexual or relationship partners. “It used to be a popular perception that we don’t form long-term relationships,” says Brame. “A lot of BDSMers are just monogamous people. A lot of people just want to do it with their partner or play with the big toys at clubs.”

21. There are so many different types of whips.

This is not a one-size-fits-all kink. There are light floggers, leather whips, whips with single tails, whips with multiple tails that are flat and wide, the list goes on, says Thorn. But because certain types can be harsher than others, you really need to learn how to use them properly (again, workshops are crucial). “People practicing with a single-tail whip will often start with a pillow or some distant small object, like a light switch,” she says.

22. And there are some places that you definitely don’t want to whip.

Like, um, the eyes, obviously. Or the kidney area. “The skin is thin there and you have vital organs under there. You can bruise your kidneys,” explains Brame.

23. If you want to bring it up in your current relationship, absolutely do it.

“There are plenty of stories out there of people who were too nervous to bring it up and then found out that their partner had the same fantasy,” says Thorn. If you’re nervous about it, ask if they’d be interested in checking out a particular book or workshop you heard about. Or just talk about it in the context of sexual fantasies by asking your partner if they’ve ever tried anything like BDSM or if they’ve ever wanted to. If you think about it, you’re only risking one awkward conversation, and the payoff can be huge if this is something you want in your life.

24. There is an immensely helpful list of kink-aware professionals so you can find a doctor or therapist who uniquely understands your lifestyle.

Maybe you’re worried that your gynecologist or your lawyer won’t be sensitive to your lifestyle or doesn’t allow you to feel comfortable talking about it. Check out the Kink Aware Professionals Directory from the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom to find someone who will be more accepting.

25. Basically, it’s way different than most people expect.

Between stereotypes, porn, and Fifty Shades of Grey, there’s a lot of misconceptions about BDSM. Short of attending a workshop or visiting a dominatrix, the best way to learn more about it is to do some research. “Just like with regular sex, if you want to be good at it, you really have to learn about what’s going on when this stuff is happening,” says Brame.

[magnum]

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[Flash]

Posted by shadowstalker (here)
25 Facts About BDSM That You Won’t Learn In “Fifty Shades Of Grey”

[B]5. BDSMers are just as stable as people who prefer vanilla sex.

Who said non BDSM sex is Vanilla sex?????

Non BDSM sex can get pretty kinky without being BDSM! This title just illustrate how easy it is to corrupt someone's understanding - non BDSM = Vanilla.

Everyone in America associate vanilla anything with dull. you are not doing DBSM sex, therefore you have dull uneventful sex, this is the message!

After Madonna and Britney Spear convincing every teenager girl to try it both ways and declare themselves bisexual, we will now have the BDSM fashion (you do not do it girl, you are not chill).

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Flash (here)

Posted by shadowstalker (here)
25 Facts About BDSM That You Won’t Learn In “Fifty Shades Of Grey”

[B]5. BDSMers are just as stable as people who prefer vanilla sex.

Who said non BDSM sex is Vanilla sex?????

Non BDSM sex can get pretty kinky without being BDSM! This title just illustrate how easy it is to corrupt someone's understanding - non BDSM = Vanilla.
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I think the comparison was not that non-BDSM is vanilla, but that most people who are ok with BDSM are just as stable as those who prefer "vanilla sex" - which I take to mean "missionary only! penis-vagina only! - no deviations!" -- that's pretty vanilla, and boring in my opinion!

I think it is fairly clear that even with the broad range of preferences and limitations, that kinky sex does include BDSM, but sex does not have to incorporate BDSM to be kinky. There's plenty of ways to make sex kinky, fun, exciting and new, without having to engage in BDSM. BDSM just one item of many that tends to fall under the category of "kinky sex".

That's how I read it anyway.

[shadowstalker]

I think the comparison was not that non-BDSM is vanilla, but that most people who are ok with BDSM are just as stable as those who prefer "vanilla sex" - which I take to mean "missionary only! penis-vagina only! - no deviations!" -- that's pretty vanilla, and boring in my opinion!

I think it is fairly clear that even with the broad range of preferences and limitations, that kinky sex does include BDSM, but sex does not have to incorporate BDSM to be kinky. There's plenty of ways to make sex kinky, fun, exciting and new, without having to engage in BDSM. BDSM just one item of many that tends to fall under the category of "kinky sex".

That's how I read it anyway.

I am glad some one explained it. I am not very good in explaining those type of things.

That's the way I read it as well.

[Twig]

I think the books are a good read. Watched the movie last night OR should i say the first part..there is more movies yet to come to finish the story. To me books are always way better than the movies but thats just me..each to their own.

Anything that goes on between two consenting adults is fine. If you look at the whole book story she can walk away anytime she wants but she doesn't.
My belief is that there is nothing dirty about the books and I so don't think it is porn.

[shadowstalker]

Posted by Twig (here)
I think the books are a good read. Watched the movie last night OR should i say the first part..there is more movies yet to come to finish the story. To me books are always way better than the movies but thats just me..each to their own.

Anything that goes on between two consenting adults is fine. If you look at the whole book story she can walk away anytime she wants but she doesn't.
My belief is that there is nothing dirty about the books and I so don't think it is porn.

Saw the movie yesterday Myself, It was so-so for me. there was nothing in there that stated that she couldn't walk away, she had free will choice from the getgo.

[Natalia]

[shadowstalker]

Posted by Amethyst (here)

1000 thanks

That was a good one..

[lastlegs]

Just bought the book in Paris Texas at Walmart no less. So this very fundamentalist town sold out the Valentine's day weekend and they is such demand for the books now that Walmart brought them in. They are sealed of course! LOL

Read the first five pages. Based on all the reviews I have read, I expected the writing to be terrible. So far it is nor worse than Nora Roberts. I will write a review of the book compared to the movie after I have read it.

I think it is important that no judgment or review of worthiness be done by someone who has neither seen nor read either.