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    The story of convicted child rapist Jerry Sandusky is well known. So too is the 50 Shades of Grey phenomena, a book that has become so popular among women that some are referring to it as “Mommy Porn” for the masses. That description is actually a lot more disturbing than a lot of folks are currently realizing.

    Yes, 50 Shades is pornography. Like most pornography, the story line is weak, the characters one-dimensional, while the sex itself graphic, detailed, but formulaic. The underlying theme to 50 Shades is something far more sinister and appalling though than your mere run-of-the-mill porn. It is pedophilia. It is child porn. Kiddie porn.

    Now I know after saying that, many female fans of 50 Shades, many of them mothers, will naturally put up a defense against that kind of description. These women, being mothers, are naturally wired to protect kids. People like Jerry Sandusky are viewed with hatred, revulsion, and disgust. Rightfully so. What mother would want to condone anything having to do with the sexual abuse of children? Of innocents?
    http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2013...n-plain-sight/

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_6687954.html

    Quote 1. "Fifty Shades of Grey," $81.7 million ($158 million international).

    2. "Kingsman: The Secret Service," $35.6 million ($23.1 million international).

    3. "The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water," $30.5 million ($13.5 million international).

    4. "American Sniper," $16.4 million ($3.7 million international).

    5. "Jupiter Ascending," $9.4 million ($15.6 million international).

    6. "Seventh Son," $4.2 million ($730,000 international).

    7. "Paddington," $4.1 million.

    8. "The Imitation Game," $3.5 million ($4 million international).

    9. "The Wedding Ringer," $3.4 million.

    10. "Project Almanac," $2.7 million ($340,000 international).


    Do they spend all these money to keep people entertained ?



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    Quote Posted by magnum (here)
    The story of convicted child rapist Jerry Sandusky is well known. So too is the 50 Shades of Grey phenomena, a book that has become so popular among women that some are referring to it as “Mommy Porn” for the masses. That description is actually a lot more disturbing than a lot of folks are currently realizing.

    Yes, 50 Shades is pornography. Like most pornography, the story line is weak, the characters one-dimensional, while the sex itself graphic, detailed, but formulaic. The underlying theme to 50 Shades is something far more sinister and appalling though than your mere run-of-the-mill porn. It is pedophilia. It is child porn. Kiddie porn.

    Now I know after saying that, many female fans of 50 Shades, many of them mothers, will naturally put up a defense against that kind of description. These women, being mothers, are naturally wired to protect kids. People like Jerry Sandusky are viewed with hatred, revulsion, and disgust. Rightfully so. What mother would want to condone anything having to do with the sexual abuse of children? Of innocents?
    http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2013...n-plain-sight/
    Hi Magnum,

    It all seems a little vague... can you provide some examples from the book that demonstrate that this book
    either _is_ paedophilic or in some way condones paedophilia.

    Thanks for your help

    be happy

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    Default Re: 50 Shades of Grey – Pedophilia Hiding In Plain Sight

    Pictures and video of mangled and the dead children of wars is also child pornography but that doesn't stop them from being published.

    Definitions work on a sliding scale. Where have you slid the bar to?

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    if you read the link there is a lot more info on why it is considered pedophilia...other than the given age of the woman as 21, everything about her character is child like, her language, her knowledge, the way she is treated....hidden in plain sight....call her a legal aged female but everything else is childlike

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    Quote Posted by magnum (here)
    The story of convicted child rapist Jerry Sandusky is well known. So too is the 50 Shades of Grey phenomena, a book that has become so popular among women that some are referring to it as “Mommy Porn” for the masses. That description is actually a lot more disturbing than a lot of folks are currently realizing.

    Yes, 50 Shades is pornography. Like most pornography, the story line is weak, the characters one-dimensional, while the sex itself graphic, detailed, but formulaic. The underlying theme to 50 Shades is something far more sinister and appalling though than your mere run-of-the-mill porn. It is pedophilia. It is child porn. Kiddie porn.

    Now I know after saying that, many female fans of 50 Shades, many of them mothers, will naturally put up a defense against that kind of description. These women, being mothers, are naturally wired to protect kids. People like Jerry Sandusky are viewed with hatred, revulsion, and disgust. Rightfully so. What mother would want to condone anything having to do with the sexual abuse of children? Of innocents?
    http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2013...n-plain-sight/
    Hi Magnum,

    It all seems a little vague... can you provide some examples from the book that demonstrate that this book
    either _is_ paedophilic or in some way condones paedophilia.

    Thanks for your help

    be happy

    lucidity :-)

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    That is indeed disturbing! I just thought it was a pathetic story of no interest to me and I wondered why anyone would want to read the book. Now I see what it really is and that is just dreadful. Maybe when people are made aware of the pedefilia connection they will think again! Or maybe not!!

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    So then sliding scale changes from legal age to some psychological IQ assessment. Certainly wouldn't want it to be from an opinion would we?

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    Default Re: 50 Shades of Grey – Pedophilia Hiding In Plain Sight

    From the article:
    Quote The female character has no sexual experience. None. She is given the age of 21, but that age is itself a cover. Her true emotional age is much-much younger. She has never even masturbated. She has never even experienced an orgasm. That alone is one of the greatest attractions to the pedophile. That is the psychology of that kind of act. You get off on taking purity.
    So does that mean that I was with a pedo?
    Really?, didn't give it up till i was 20, didn't bother with the other stuff till 25. strictly speaking didn't feel the need to.

    I won't even get into the other personal aspects, If this be the case then I know a lot of pedos out there, and I am sure many others do as well.
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    I saw this movie Friday night. Until then I had never heard of the books etc. At my senior citizens center, fundamentalists dropped off written sermons of hell, fire, and damnation over this. The local paper had several letters demanding the closing of the local theater.

    I told people I was going to see Jupiter Rising and I went. Prohibition always produces sold out theater and so it was. I am almost blind and have to sit way down front. Behind me were six women crunched down in their seats giggling the whole time. My take on them is they want to see if there is something they might have missed.

    This is a movie where you will see what you want to see or are ready to see. I saw Last Tango in Paris at the same age and it had a much worse story. Same for the Story of O. But being young, the sex was titillating. What I personally liked about this movie is it made me remember what it felt to just feel the breathe of a beloved.

    I liked the movie and I am going to buy the books. Everything else that follows will be considered spoilers.

    I wasn't that impressed with guy as either a lover or an actor. I was impressed by the woman. She had a lot more courage at her age than I ever did.

    She is totally and completely adult in negotiating this "contract" about what she is willing to do and why. Certainly, at 21 I did not know what a butt plug was and I don't think I could have asked to have someone explain it to me who wanted to use it on me.

    The basic exploration theme of this movie is finding out who you are by what you are willing to do, who are you doing it with, and for what reasons. Doing sex is fundamentally expressing intimately who you are. These two people are intensely attracted to each other from the moment they meet. Both of them are uncomfortable about it. Both of them express it would not be a good thing but for different reasons. But the deep desire remains maybe because they both consider it forbidden.

    When these two people speak to each other it is pretty direct and to the point. I was impressed by that and at that age could not have done it but then I did not have the internet to be exposed to so much. The average age of first watching porn in the US is 11. and I do not have a problem with that. less bad sex occurs when basic curiosity is fulfilled.

    Addressing the criticisms I have read. Anna is not allowed to show an orgasm. I think she had multiple orgasms from the get go. Most porn orgasms are way over the top. She says to this guy, she has never had sex before because she never found anyone she wanted enough. Her relationships on the screen show men attracted to her and putting that out there and her caring about their feelings and still saying no. There are lots of things that occur that show she is not in it for the money. She specifically asks how many women before. She repeatedly asks him about why he is like this. He tells her he was a submissive with one of his mother 's friends for 6 years from the age of 15. She immediately says child abuse and he tells her what he thinks he got out of it. "It made him feel safe." That was the most incongruous statement in the movie. He also says his mother never knew. His mother referred to is his adoptive mother and his biological mother was an addict. So he claims and accepts himself as ****ed up and this is just who he is.

    He is more seriously attracted to her when he finds out she is a virgin. Her innocence is both an attraction and repulsion. He is jealous, protective, and possessive. It comes across as love more than lust. She is not drop dead beautiful. She is a basic good girl who makes a decision to make love with this guy. The first go around is normal love making leaving him so exhausted that he does not keep his normal policy of not sleeping with a woman. She gets up invigorated and makes him breakfast. He comes across as amazed that now that he has "possessed" her, he is still aroused by her. He allows them doing some normal things that he considers bonuses.

    She is always psychologically resistant to him. Attracted to him, wanting him, maybe even loving him but absolutely not willing to be subsumed by him. unlike every other S/M book,video etc. she asks him why do you want to hurt me, why do you need to hurt me to love me. He never has a reason except that is who he is.

    She tells him several times that she is only willing to experience this to understand him. Finally, she says do your worst so I don't have to think about it but will know what it is. Nothing in the movie is really what I would consider violent only a from of ritual play acting that may amuse some people. Panning the play room was pretty interesting. There were lots of things I wish I had known about and could afford when I was in my 30s--tantra chair and couch, great bed, nice swing. My bias in favor of this movie is I love sex and I like imaginative sex and intensely physical sex. I am also very quiet which for me increases the intensity.

    But for the record I could never do S/M. Tried it once and the minute he tied me, he who I loved I immediately hated. When he kissed me I bit him badly and we never did that again.

    At the end of his doing his worst, she says is this what you wanted--seeing me like this in pain and humiliated. She says no thanks. Returns everything. They are both calm and extremely polite.
    Their goodbyes are Anna and Christian, the elevator doors close and the movie ends.

    What I saw was interesting and timely and gives me hope for the new generation. I will read the books to see what else I learn.

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    I saw this movie Friday night. Until then I had never heard of the books etc. At my senior citizens center, fundamentalists dropped off written sermons of hell, fire, and damnation over this. The local paper had several letters demanding the closing of the local theater.

    I told people I was going to see Jupiter Rising and I went. Prohibition always produces sold out theater and so it was. I am almost blind and have to sit way down front. Behind me were six women crunched down in their seats giggling the whole time. My take on them is they want to see if there is something they might have missed.

    This is a movie where you will see what you want to see or are ready to see. I saw Last Tango in Paris at the same age and it had a much worse story. Same for the Story of O. But being young, the sex was titillating. What I personally liked about this movie is it made me remember what it felt to just feel the breathe of a beloved.

    I liked the movie and I am going to buy the books. Everything else that follows will be considered spoilers.

    I wasn't that impressed with guy as either a lover or an actor. I was impressed by the woman. She had a lot more courage at her age than I ever did.

    She is totally and completely adult in negotiating this "contract" about what she is willing to do and why. Certainly, at 21 I did not know what a butt plug was and I don't think I could have asked to have someone explain it to me who wanted to use it on me.

    The basic exploration theme of this movie is finding out who you are by what you are willing to do, who are you doing it with, and for what reasons. Doing sex is fundamentally expressing intimately who you are. These two people are intensely attracted to each other from the moment they meet. Both of them are uncomfortable about it. Both of them express it would not be a good thing but for different reasons. But the deep desire remains maybe because they both consider it forbidden.

    When these two people speak to each other it is pretty direct and to the point. I was impressed by that and at that age could not have done it but then I did not have the internet to be exposed to so much. The average age of first watching porn in the US is 11. and I do not have a problem with that. less bad sex occurs when basic curiosity is fulfilled.

    Addressing the criticisms I have read. Anna is not allowed to show an orgasm. I think she had multiple orgasms from the get go. Most porn orgasms are way over the top. She says to this guy, she has never had sex before because she never found anyone she wanted enough. Her relationships on the screen show men attracted to her and putting that out there and her caring about their feelings and still saying no. There are lots of things that occur that show she is not in it for the money. She specifically asks how many women before. She repeatedly asks him about why he is like this. He tells her he was a submissive with one of his mother 's friends for 6 years from the age of 15. She immediately says child abuse and he tells her what he thinks he got out of it. "It made him feel safe." That was the most incongruous statement in the movie. He also says his mother never knew. His mother referred to is his adoptive mother and his biological mother was an addict. So he claims and accepts himself as ****ed up and this is just who he is.

    He is more seriously attracted to her when he finds out she is a virgin. Her innocence is both an attraction and repulsion. He is jealous, protective, and possessive. It comes across as love more than lust. She is not drop dead beautiful. She is a basic good girl who makes a decision to make love with this guy. The first go around is normal love making leaving him so exhausted that he does not keep his normal policy of not sleeping with a woman. She gets up invigorated and makes him breakfast. He comes across as amazed that now that he has "possessed" her, he is still aroused by her. He allows them doing some normal things that he considers bonuses.

    She is always psychologically resistant to him. Attracted to him, wanting him, maybe even loving him but absolutely not willing to be subsumed by him. unlike every other S/M book,video etc. she asks him why do you want to hurt me, why do you need to hurt me to love me. He never has a reason except that is who he is.

    She tells him several times that she is only willing to experience this to understand him. Finally, she says do your worst so I don't have to think about it but will know what it is. Nothing in the movie is really what I would consider violent only a from of ritual play acting that may amuse some people. Panning the play room was pretty interesting. There were lots of things I wish I had known about and could afford when I was in my 30s--tantra chair and couch, great bed, nice swing. My bias in favor of this movie is I love sex and I like imaginative sex and intensely physical sex. I am also very quiet which for me increases the intensity.

    But for the record I could never do S/M. Tried it once and the minute he tied me, he who I loved I immediately hated. When he kissed me I bit him badly and we never did that again.

    At the end of his doing his worst, she says is this what you wanted--seeing me like this in pain and humiliated. She says no thanks. Returns everything. They are both calm and extremely polite.
    Their goodbyes are Anna and Christian, the elevator doors close and the movie ends.

    What I saw was interesting and timely and gives me hope for the new generation. I will read the books to see what else I learn.
    I love your critique, insightful and honest, make me want to watch this movie by myself..lol
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    Default Re: 50 Shades of Grey – Pedophilia Hiding In Plain Sight

    I haven't read the book or watched the film, but have an opinion on the following:

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    if you read the link there is a lot more info on why it is considered pedophilia...other than the given age of the woman as 21, everything about her character is child like, her language, her knowledge, the way she is treated....hidden in plain sight....call her a legal aged female but everything else is childlike
    She is still a woman. She is not a child, therefore, if any man sleeps with her (no matter how old he is) it is not pedophilia, and the guy in the film wasn't that much older than her...

    Women can be childlike or have something childlike about them, at any age...men can find it cute...surely he liked/loved her combination of being a woman/child (this is kinda how I see myself sometimes, and a right guy will love that about me). It's a bit like, if a grown man has a boy like aspect to him, that can be cute, too, as part of the whole package of him...doesn't mean that a woman who liked that aspect as part of the whole (and her girl and his boy can play together) would want to date a child.
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    I have not read the book or watched the film either. I have read reviews of it and all say it's awful. My cousin bought the distribution rights to the film and I'm sure will make tons more money than he already has. That said................I lived as a submissive to an abusive, sociopathic BDSM sexual dominant. He is now deceased and as an outlet during those years I became a professional domina myself.

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    Quote Posted by ERK (here)
    I have not read the book or watched the film either. I have read reviews of it and all say it's awful. My cousin bought the distribution rights to the film and I'm sure will make tons more money than he already has. That said................I lived as a submissive to an abusive, sociopathic BDSM sexual dominant. He is now deceased and as an outlet during those years I became a professional domina myself.
    I am sorry that you went through that abuse, ERK. I want a (truly) loving dominant male for a partner and it is compatible with me and my combination of being a woman and girl (the highs, and lows, the sweet stuff, and the cry baby insecure need a daddy stuff) but I do not want to be abused (most people don't?, BDSM, if both partners enjoy it, is ok and not abuse, imo - the hardcore stuff is not for me...)...
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    Default Re: 50 Shades of Grey – Pedophilia Hiding In Plain Sight

    I expect something better than this kind of comment on this site.

    1. Who or what does this comment represent?

    2. It is strictly an opinion and not a fact?

    3. a review of a movie is an opinion of a viewpoint of another person which a movie is.

    4. It is like tales of Roshomon, we all see from our perspectives.

    5. It is like proving the Bible by quoting the Bible.

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    I have read the books and would like to see the film. It did not occur to me at any time that it was about paedaphilia. Sometimes I think people like to read what they want into things.
    One could say the same about Pride and Prejudice written by Jane Austin, where the parents, no less, let Lydia 'come out' at the tender age of fifteen, inappropriately young, and Mr Wickham takes advantage of her!
    Where do we draw the line?

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    I have not read the the books or seen the film although my wife wants to see it, drawn in by the reviews.

    We should all know the Illuminati control Hollywood movies which contain covert messaging and disclosure which is designed to gain our tacit free will support.

    As long as people are aware and it causes no harm to self or others watch what you want, within reason of course

    Unfortunately when the Elites engage in their satanic rituals and pedophilia it gradually becomes an accepted practice that gives them the so called 'ultimate thrill' of life over death which infects their minds like a rancid virus (courtesy of ET mind control technology and genetic manipulation I suspect)

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    I mean no offence but if you see paedophilia in an adult erotic story then it's apparent that the problem lies with you and not the story itself.

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    Quote Posted by Becky (here)
    I have read the books and would like to see the film. It did not occur to me at any time that it was about paedaphilia. Sometimes I think people like to read what they want into things.
    One could say the same about Pride and Prejudice written by Jane Austin, where the parents, no less, let Lydia 'come out' at the tender age of fifteen, inappropriately young, and Mr Wickham takes advantage of her!
    Where do we draw the line?
    Since you have read the books and I haven't and knowing what movies do to books. Is my review of the movie very accurate to the story of the book?

    God apparently did not have a problem choosing a 13 year old for his son's mother. Perhaps with an eye to the revelation of divinity and people believing a virgin birth?

    Everything can be looked at from different points of views and that is the strength of this site, letting people find their own way to truth and not top down this is it--making dogma the only way.

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