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    Some good stuff here IMO Avies. It's a rather lengthy detailed read, but a highly informative and detailed one, The nuts and bolts (if you will) to the Roswell Technology which was retrieved and then backward engineered from the New Mexico Ufo crash of 1947.

    Reverse Engineering Roswell UFO Technology
    Computer company chief Jack Shulman argues that the transistor could never have been invented so suddenly at AT&T in late 1947 without the input of alien technology.



    Hi, I'm Jack Shulman. I'm the head of the American Computer Company. American Computer Company is part of the Technology International Group and Bell North America group of companies. I'm also one of the owners of the group of companies. I've been in the computer industry for about 28 or 29 years. I've worked for IBM as a professional services management consultant. I worked on the development of the personal computer in 1978 for FIT [Fashion Institute of Technology] and Simplicity Patterns, later adopted by IBM.

    I developed something called the "pattern creator". That's where we got the term "PC". Prior to that, I'd developed what you might call the first windowing operating system in 1975 for Citibank, and before that there were earlier versions I did for a company called Vydec. I'm a serious computer person - very, very serious - and also someone who's not generally inclined to leap to great predispositions about any unusual subject.

    Well, as it turns out, a few years ago I got my dose of reality. It was in the form of a visit from a friend of mine. When I was very young I'd got involved in technology, partly by virtue of the influence of a friend's father. I grew up in central New Jersey, which is around where AT&T and Bell Labs originated, and my friend's father was the head of Bell Labs. I ended up living at the household of the head of Bell Labs, going to a private school and going to college with his son as a roommate, and I kind of grew up around the various projects at Bell Laboratories in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

    I'd always held that AT&T was this rather magnificent institution. Anybody here worked for AT&T in the past? So, you know when I say Bell Labs research, I'm speaking Holy Grail; and in certain parts of the defense community and in government I'm also speaking Holy Grail. Anyone here realise that AT&T and Bell Laboratories ran our nuclear arsenal for 45 years? Anybody who knows that, raise your hand. Not a one of you. I didn't really even know until a little bit later in my career, but I knew something strange was going on because it always seemed to me that AT&T always had what it needed to make innovations in technology, and subsequently such technology would migrate to an IBM or a Sarnoff Research or to an RCA.

    And I could never really figure out, in the course of my young life, who these magnificent, incredible scientists were, other than that I frequently met them… like a fellow by the name of William Shockley. He was quite a frequent friend to Jack Morton's household, and I knew him, and I knew some of the other folks that he knew, like a fellow by the name of Bob Noyce, and Jack Kilby who was an acquaintance of theirs. These names - if you've ever worked for AT&T or in the electronics industry - are also Holy Grail names. These are Mount Rushmores of the technology industry. Jack Kilby is credited with the invention of the integrated circuit.

    I was rather shocked when, about late 1995, a dear friend came to me. He was at one time one of the very well known generals in the Pentagon, a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and is now a consultant. I'd known him a very long time through the Morton family and Bell and when working for IBM. He asked me to analyse some documents that he had in his possession. He showed me some pictures. I kind of turned up my nose. I said, "I don't believe this." He suggested they were pictures of an alien craft. I said to him, "Well, why do you come to me and ask me this?"

    "Because there are some documents that fell into my possession that I would also like you to see, that go beyond these drawings, these pictures, these photographs, that describe some technology; and I would like you to analyse this technology and make a determination for me of the veracity of these documents, help me to authenticate them." I said, "Fine. I don't believe this is real. I'm skeptical. I don't believe in aliens, I don't believe in UFOs, I don't believe in any of that." And he said, "Okay, well, I'd still want you to take a look at them, Jack." And I agreed.

    I met with him at his home. I met a woman by the name of Mrs Jeffrey Proscauer. That's not her real name, but it's the name she goes by; she does not want her true identity revealed. And I got a chance to piece and look through some 28 boxes of materials that had come from Western Electric Laboratories in the late 1940s - 1947, early 1948 and beyond - and some subsequent documents.

    If you've ever worked for AT&T, you know that the laboratories at Bell Laboratories are often quite distinct, and the documentation from a laboratory is kept in an ongoing, growing tome called a "Lab Shopkeeper's Notebook". It turns out that these notebooks are kept even in the super-secret laboratories - the ones in the part of Western Electric or Bell Laboratories that manage the nuclear arsenal - and they grow and they're ongoing and they become almost like a living representation of what that laboratory did for a living.

    Well, such as it is, I was rather shocked at what I had to see there in these boxes of materials, and I convinced them to let me look at them over the course of about three-and-a-half weeks. They were kept at the consultant's house during that time period, and he actually kept a security guard with them at all times because he was afraid that someone might come and steal them. Now of course, I wasn't sure why he was afraid, because at the time I didn't realise the full magnitude of what I was looking at.

    In any event, after about two or three weeks of looking at them, I came back to him and we sat down over what turned out to be a Christmas Eve dinner, and I said to him: "I've got to tell you something. I'm having a real problem with this because what you're showing me looks like technology that we have not yet developed, that humanity has not yet developed, yet the documents you're showing me appear to be forty-eight, forty-nine years old. This would put them in 1947, 1948, 1949."

    I suggested to him that before I could proceed I would have to have someone verify the age, carbon-date or come up with some other means to verify the age of the documents, and he agreed. So, with the help of a mutual acquaintance - a private investigator formerly with the Justice Department - we were able to take fragments of the documents without damaging them.

    We sent them to an expert who formerly consulted for Scotland Yard; he's a fairly well known forensic expert at...I believe it's the University of Edinburgh in Scotland today; he was at a different university at the time. He analysed these fragments of these documents for me, and came back and told me that the ink, the paper, even the presentations were valid; that this was in fact a book or series of books from the 1947, '48, '49, 1950 time period. That took him about four and a half weeks of analysis, and I was holding my breath for four and a half weeks, as you can imagine.

    The things that I saw described in this Lab Shopkeeper's Notebook consisted of things that today would be more powerful than the Intel Pentium processor, for instance, or the Cray supercomputer. There were communications devices that were described; there were ways to sandwich-in very, very thin, micrometre-thin layers; special metals to produce moving parts for things like... from the descriptions that I read, the nearest thing I could describe is an anti-gravity propulsion unit for a spacecraft. They included dynamic electronic and power-control technology that even to this day we have not yet developed. They included communications technology that was described only as having been taken from an object of unknown or unearthly origin. The documents were very carefully worded not to reveal what was, in reality, in these boxes of materials.

    I was sort of at a loss at that juncture, because even though we had forensic information at the time from this particular forensic expert that would date these boxes back to the late '40s, and even though they said "Western Electric, Bell Laboratories", part of them said something called "Z-Division" on them. We knew of the Z-Division: it was a segment of the United States Army, formed in 1947 and 1948. The implications were that this project was operating on the fringes of the nuclear bomb development project - then known as the Manhattan Project Group.

    It turns out that in 1947 - between '47 and actually late '48 - Harry Truman decided he was going to grant a contract to AT&T to go through the overseeing and management of our nuclear arsenal and the commercialisation of derived product technologies from the nuclear bomb, project: the physics, the electronics, the control systems, even the ballistics, the radar that was used, the ICBM technology that was under development in the late '40s after we got a hold of the V-series rockets from the Nazis, and so forth. The contract was inked by Truman in early 1949, if I recall correctly, but during the prior two-year period there was an informal relationship, during which AT&T played a greater and greater role in the organisation of super-secret military weapons-grade projects for the federal government and eventually got pretty much control of what was then known as the Z-Division.

    Z-Division, believe it or not, originated in Roswell, New Mexico. I guess the reason is, that is where the original nuclear bomb armada was formed - the first bomber wing that carried the nuclear bomb - and it migrated over to Kirtland Air Force Base during the time period when Orlando Lawrence, the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratories fellow, was called in. He was called in by Teller, Oppenheimer... all those folks responsible for the nuclear bomb... Leo Szwilard. Lawrence was called in at the time because he could make accelerators, or "cyclotrons" as they were known at the time. Those cyclotrons were capable of refining uranium, refining plutonium... back then they weren't working with plutonium but with uranium.

    I guess you could imagine what it must have been like in the time period. They were in the middle of a war when they were building the nuclear bombs and they had to do everything secretly, so this Z-Division was created with super-secrecy as its fundamental core.

    Ultimately Lawrence was called in because they had to build enough of an accelerator to refine enough uranium to make the bomb possible, and, in spite of all the greatest minds of nuclear physics assigned to the Z-Division in the Manhattan Project, none of them could figure out how to refine enough uranium to make the nuclear bomb a possibility. This was before the first bomb was exploded. So Lawrence was brought in because he knew how to make a cyclotron; but his cyclotron, the biggest one he'd ever created, was about the size of this white board over here, and it could produce about a thimbleful of refined uranium - which would have been about enough to make a nuclear bomb capable of blowing off your left foot.

    In any event, one day Lawrence is called in and he's asked: "How do we build a cyclotron big enough?" He makes a few calculations and hands a requisition order to Harold Ackerman - today a federal judge, and who was the chief supply clerk for the Manhattan Project - to requisition enough silver to build a big silver racetrack; something like 12 million tons of silver. In fact, he took it to the United States Treasury, handed it to the then Secretary of the Treasury - I guess it was Morganthal - and Morganthal was asked to fill a 12-million-ton order, which also necessitated the relocation of Z-Division to some place where they could put all this silver and build this racetrack.

    We decided one day at American Computer Company that we were going to be brave. I talked with my board and I talked with some of the people at the company and they agreed. "Yeah, we can try this; let's see what happens."

    We decided that we were going to take the story that had been conveyed to me about this unusual Shopkeeper's Notebook with these unusual technological artifacts in them, and naively and blithely put a panel on the Internet, describing in black and white and colour what we had found, and raise the question. However, the picture that we put up was a picture of Testor's model of the so-called Roswell Lander. It's a picture of what looks like a spacecraft with wings and a jet propulsion system, with a pod in the front to hold alien occupants who were piloting it. We superimposed the picture over an image from the Thunder Range - of course, we picked the wrong place; the Plains of San Agustin was the right place, actually - and we put a little bit of rhetoric on this panel and just placed it right in the middle of our American Computer Company website.


    Now that probably was the stupidest thing we ever did. Here's this picture of a Roswell alien lander sitting on a panel in the middle of a computer company website, and on it is said something like: "Did AT&T receive stolen alien technologies from the US Government in 1947 and thereby invent the transistor, the laser, the integrated circuit, and... on and on and on... different technologies?" Well, we figured the reaction we would get from the public would be one of, "Oh gee, isn't that cute? That's funny, X-Files, you know..." The reaction we got was not one we had anticipated.

    Three days after we placed the image onto our website, we received a very strange series of military faxes to our tech support fax machine, referring to a piece of hardware known as "Sky Station". Anybody ever hear of anything called Sky Station? Never heard of it, have you? Well, it's up there. It's an orbital platform of some kind. We were receiving live messages from Sky Station for a day or two and we decided this wasn't right; we were going to call the Pentagon and tell them about it. So I picked up the phone and first I called Fort Monmouth; then I called down to Langley Air Force Base.

    They wanted to know, "Why are you calling Langley Air Force Base?" Well, where else would I call about a satellite that's sending messages to our fax machine... talk about sounding strange... that say this satellite is about to crash, it's coming down, its communications systems are breaking down. Well, finally we got to somebody who was of authority. It was Colonel James, and he gets on the phone with me - I'm in my car, on my car phone - and he says: "Mr. Shulman, please secure these faxes. Do not let anyone see them. We'll take care of it. We'll let you know what to do with the faxes." It's like... the military goes silent.

    That next day our offices were broken into. Our front door was smashed, our glass was smashed to smithereens all over the place, and everything was taken out of the file cabinets in our offices. My office was a wreck when I got in there. It was awful. We came in the next day to work and it was like: what happened, what happened?

    I had these faxes in my briefcase. I'd taken them home with me. So apparently, by not leaving them there, I probably worsened the situation. It might have been better if I'd left them there, to be frank; if they'd found them and had just come and arrested us, taken us away. They were top level, five-level clearance. We're not supposed to even see or even know such a thing, but inadvertently, as a result, we became aware of the fact that there's an orbital DSP [Defense Space Platform], called Sky Station, which is nuclear-hardened and equipped to carry nuclear weapons, because it was described in these faxes.

    It is not a very pleasant place to be, to discover that now; here we are at the end of the Cold War with an agreement that there will be no nuclear weapons in space in orbit, and there is apparently a platform up there that the United States secretly put up back in the '60s or '70s or '80s, that's equipped; it's nuclear-hardened, it's one of the Star Wars SDI series, based on Spacelab, equipped to handle and carry nuclear weapons.

    So now, not only did we have a picture of an alleged alien craft on our website, talking about alien technologies being transferred to AT&T, but we also were in possession of very high level, Level Five, Top Secret security clearance military faxes describing something called Sky Station.

    That week we had visits from the Air Force Office of Special Investigations. They came up and they interviewed us. They put me through a day-long third degree. We didn't want it happening in the middle of our customers coming in and seeing us or selling personal computers and servers, so I took them to an out-of-the-way part of the office, down the hall, down the elevator to a little office downstairs, and I got a query about everything just short of... well, it included my shoe size, when I was born, names of parents, names of grandparents, when they entered the country, driver's license number. They went through a Q&A with me and with my staff that just came short of asking me the wrong question - if you know what I mean.

    We were very startled, naturally. We weren't certain what in fact was going on, but we're not ones to back down at American Computer so we decided that instead of running for cover and taking the picture down off of our website - because we kind of connected that the two things might have something to do with each other - instead of backing down and turning it all off, we would go the other direction. So we moved the picture to a separate section of our website and created an entire website within our website, called American Computer Company Special Investigation. This is what happens when you grow up in New Jersey! Of course, we couldn't have rubbed salt into a deeper wound: "Some have claimed that alien technology was found on board a UFO crashed in Roswell, 1947. Very dramatic. Is it true? Did the US military discover something strange in the desert near Albuquerque, New Mexico? Did they alter human history? Was the transistor one of those alien marvels? Click here for the original story."



    We tried to be a little cute. We put up a picture, and if you go to our website it's still there. If you go to our main website, http://accpc.com, at the bottom of the page is a nav bar with a pointer in the middle of the corporate info products, catalogue, features, tech support, Roswell 1947, help. You can go to that link and click on it and it'll take you to this special page which, of course, has now grown tremendously. It has something like, we estimate, about 9,000 messages and articles now stored within it. We started off on one Internet server and moved it to five Internet servers, and now we are on one of our super-servers which consists of four groups of four Pentium XEONs and three different service-provider carriers and a whole lot of communications just to handle the load. We get about, we estimate, three million to three and a half million visitors a month to the site. And they're not necessarily people like yourselves, open-minded, interested; they're kids from college, kids from high schools, military people from countries like Iran... I'm serious! I mean, we can track some of the addresses that show up in our logs. I didn't even know Iran had Internet! We've got a very strange reaction to our story.

    What we did in the story was we isolated a few pointers, some of which only I was privy to. One of them was that there was some relationship between the government and AT&T that resulted in the transistor's invention. I mentioned I grew up in the household of the head of Bell Labs, so I knew that there was something strange about the transistor because I knew Bill Shockley, and Bill Shockley was something of a witless buffoon. There's no way he could have invented the transistor.

    The symbol for the transistor is made up of three pieces: positive, positive and negative; or negative, negative and positive...silicon dioxide doped with arsenic and boron, in 1947. Now, in 1947, doping things with boron was not easy. It required the sort of equipment that even Bell Labs did not possess in 1946. They had this type of equipment at Lawrence Berkeley Laboratories - but it would have taken thousands and thousands and thousands of man-hours to invent the transistor.

    If you look back at it historically, what AT&T was claiming was that one day this "genius", William Shockley, was working with a rectifier; he looked at it and he noticed it had unusual propensities, and there, bingo, he invented the transistor! He figured it out right there! And to verify that, the two other "geniuses" that they got to help work on the transistor, Dr Bardeen and Dr Brattain, both said: "Oh yeah, I remember a guy by the name of Case was [allegedly] talking about transistors in 1931, and I knew back then we were going to have them."

    That is the history of the transistor at AT&T prior to 1948, other than claiming it was invented in December of 1947 by Dr Shockley. Anybody believe that story? Me neither. And I knew, because the administrative head of the transistor project was Jack Morton - the man at whose house I was staying to go to school and whose sons I was friends with - and he often commented on the fact that it was really a shame that those three idiots got responsibility for the transistor and he didn't. And I always wondered, because he too didn't possess the scientific ability to develop the transistor.

    He was a brilliant man who had invented the radiobroadcast vacuum tube, the close-spaced triode, but it appears as if he was brought in to head up the project to try to draw back the transistor in time to radio tubes and the things that Shockley talked about; and it was as if the whole thing was just a ploy and he might as easily have been given responsibility and got the Nobel Prize as Bill Shockley. Professional jealousy?

    In any event, for most of my young life I believed that the transistor had come from a government project and that they were just hiding its origins. Which government project, I did not realise until I saw the Shopkeeper's Notebook in the possession of my friend, the consultant.

    Now, I'd heard a lot about Roswell in my life and I'd read the Project Blue Book books and I'd read a lot of books like Berlitz's and so forth, but I was not someone who believed that a UFO had crashed at Roswell - at the time, in any event. There I was, stuck with all this information and having created this rather minor scandal on the Internet... well, maybe not minor, with the Air Force coming to visit us.

    Next thing I know, radio talk show host Art Bell sends science reporter Linda Moulton Howe to my office. She has to be there because she has to see whether or not our offices were actually broken into. A beautiful woman, very intelligent; she shows up at the office with a tape recorder. She sees the windows are broken in the front and we have a wooden partition set up to try to keep the air out of the building, and she records me answering questions about all this. And next thing I know, she plays the tape on "Dreamland" - on Art's show. I swear to God, it was the strangest thing we had ever seen happen!

    The very next day we got well over 3,000 phone calls from people, all trying to get in to see me personally, to tell me about Roswell. We received mail and e-mail by the 10,000 pieces. Our normal 2,000 visitors a day on our World Wide Web site jumped up so high that one of our carriers refused to carry us anymore. At that point I realised there's more than just a casual interest on the part of the public, so we decided we would carry the original ACC Roswell story right through to its ultimate conclusion. We have been for several years now.

    So, we have publicised the fact that Dr Morton met his untimely death and that Dr Morton was one of the few people who knew the true history of the transistor at AT&T - aside from Bill Shockley who would never have talked because that would have meant the end of his Nobel Prize, along with Drs Bardeen and Brattain, and Dr Kilby who subsequently went on to bigger and better things - and he's dead now.
    It looked like Dr Morton was breaking camp with AT&T and was very, very outspoken, very angry with AT&T over this whole thing. One day in 1972, Dr Morton was found knocked unconscious and set afire in his Volvo P18 sports coupé, devastating the Morton household and family - my friends - and for reasons that nobody seemed to know.

    Well, we decided to see whether or not there might be any reason to link Dr Morton's possible migration to a Japanese firm, and we tried to make an inquiry about it with the corporate security department at AT&T. That's when we discovered that there are people working in corporate security at AT&T who don't want to talk about Dr Morton's untimely death. Now, you've got to understand, we're talking about something which happened 25 years ago.

    So we were investigating further, and I interviewed a member of the Morton household who was talking about the transistor project and got very, very teary-eyed when I talked about the transistor. I said, "Oh, did you ever wonder where the transistor really came from?" It was as if I had cut a jugular. The conversation ended right there. "Can't discuss this further with you."


    We looked into it a little bit further and it became clear to us that Dr Morton was probably responsible for this Shopkeeper's Notebook working its way outside of AT&T - probably, because he was the principal investigator. You have a principal investigator involved in any government project; they have to name somebody to take the blame. When AT&T screws up, they have to have someone to fire, and they're certainly not going to pick someone important enough in their view; they're going to pick the one that everybody doesn't like. He was a tough guy; very, very strong-minded, and everybody didn't like him that much - so they made him the principal investigator.

    There were other people involved, apparently. There was a fellow by the name of Ramey [General Ramey? – Ed]. He was a figure at the Department of the Army. He was named in the documents. There were quite a few other people named in the documents. We're not revealing all of the people at this particular juncture because of Mrs Proscauer, who won't allow us to give out certain things. And in order to continue having access to these documents and so-called Notebook on an ongoing basis, we're very cautious about the information we give out.

    In any event, we decided to depict in a series of pages on the Internet - the entire story of what we'd been going through - going on the theory that one of the ways you can protect yourself from, for instance, being assassinated by having information in your possession that's dangerous to others, is to publicise it as widely as you possibly can; which is what we did. Of course, there's a certain drawback to that approach. The drawback was that within no time the attacks, the onslaughts, the assaults, the death threats, the undermining of credibility, the public humiliation, pain and suffering began.

    We found ourselves besieged by what I can only describe as a multilateral black project, which included death threats on myself and my family, death threats on our employees, pictures of me with bullet holes and blood dripping out on the Internet, out of the blue... a really, really strange thing to have happen. We had people come up and claim they had been hired by us to verify the claims that technology like this originated on an alien spacecraft.

    And you've got to understand, we didn't say that it originated on an alien spacecraft. We asked the question, "Did it originate...?" Would you run around on the Internet saying this technology came from an alien spacecraft? No. You'd ask the question. You'd say, "Let's put together the evidence; let's find out."

    We decided we would approach a higher authority - ask the question to the higher authority and make it a matter of public record. So, who is a higher authority - other than, say, Bill Clinton - that you might go to and ask the question: Did the transistor and subsequent technologies fall into the hands of AT&T from the Nazi Germans, the Japanese? Well, neither of them had any of this stuff. Secret government project? Well, the United States Government couldn't build any of this stuff. Half this stuff that we saw in the Notebook... even today we don't even have some of the minerals, some of the chemical materials, necessary to create them.

    We decided we would ask the Secretary of Defense, William Cohen. In fact, we got William Cohen and then his administrative assistant on the phone, and the head of the Air Force OSI instantly on the phone with us, and sent them a kit and kaboodle of stuff to take a look at. We asked them to come down, take a look at things that we wanted explained in their original context. Well, we've never heard from them about it. We haven't heard from the Air Force or OSI - we filed 9001 pages and demands with OSI. We've never heard a single word back from the OSI, the Air Force, or the Pentagon. They've kept their distance, accepted the requested requests and violated the law - because under the law, when you give them these demands, they have 30 days to respond. Not a single response, as if to say, "You're not influential enough to get us to respond to these."

    In any event, we got nowhere with them so we decided we might embarrass them a little bit. Now, how do you embarrass the Air Force? I mean, sometimes they do a pretty good job of embarrassing themselves! But how do you embarrass the Air Force, how do you embarrass William Cohen, the Secretary of Defense, particularly in a time period when we're in the middle of an ersatz situation of war with Iraq, when the Cold War is over? You publish your findings; you have to have findings. I was invited to appear a total of 15 times on radio shows, including Art Bell again, Sightings, the Mike Jarmus Show, ABC News, and finally I turned down the Larry King Live show. I'd just about had enough.

    We built two of the devices we saw in the Lab Shopkeeper's Notebook. One of them was a semiconductor device. This semiconductor device we called the "Transfer Capacitor", and it has actually shocked the industry. People called me "lunatic" and "liar" and every conceivable name in the book for a period of 11 months as we described the transfer capacitor's unusual capability. It can be made about the size of a molecule, it can be controlled by microvolts of electricity, it produces no heat and it switches at 12 terahertz.

    Does anyone know what a terahertz is? [At this time] Intel’s Pentium transistors switch at 500 megahertz or some small multiple thereabouts. This thing is 12,000 times faster than the fastest transistors we've ever built. We tested it. We actually went out and got some silver alkane from a company in Pennsylvania that makes semiconductor materials. We built one, we tested it. We then realised that we could build it very dense.

    We got some friends who operated a company called InMos, who had some semiconductor materials, and over six months - this is two years ago [1997] - we built an 8-gigabyte solid-state hard drive in a space about 'yay' big; poker-chip-sized, operating at the same speed, 12 terahertz, capable of replacing the memory of a PC. We subsequently built 2,500 of them and sent them out in the form of test kits for people in industry to evaluate - people who refused to believe that such a thing could exist. We sent them to Rohm & Haas; we sent them to Intel. We got some of them back. People didn't even want to look at them: "What is this nonsense?" Motorola wouldn't take one, interestingly. Texas Instruments took one.

    In any event, for six months I had to put up with some of the most obnoxious, insulting, nasty comments you could imagine, even when I was at meetings of my own professional conferences. "The crazy alien guy with his flying-saucer transistor" - that was typical.

    Ultimately what bailed us out was that a friend of mine who used to work for IBM, now for Lucent, managed to convince his private funding agency to give Lawrence Berkeley Laboratories a grant to check us out at ACC. He picked Lawrence Berkeley because they probably have the highest integrity of all the physics laboratories in the world - the ones who had the 10,000-foot racetrack, made out of 12 million tons of silver, that in 1947 must have knocked Henry Morganthal right out of his leather chair when it was requested. They tested using the same procedures, but they had a much better laser than we did. We only had a little laser at Princeton. They had a big laser with which they could watch the movement of electrons, and they verified not only the function but the speed. So, Lucent managed to double-check our work, even though it won't officially admit it.

    What the "T-cap" or Transfer Capacitor really is, is a metal-insulated dielectric junction semiconductor based on silver alkane. It works on the principle whereby electrons strike the bond in question, elevate its energy level and boom, what was an insulator becomes a conductor in a half of a millionth of a billionth of a second! Very fast! It persists for about two thousandths of those millionths of a billionths of a second and turns itself off. We use two of them in a pair, one to refresh the other, and they nearly never lose any electrons. Once we charge them up, they stay charged for an hour. So we only need a tiny bit of power to power them. They produce no heat. We can't measure heat from these things because the heat, if it were there, is absorbed back into the substance - the silver alkane - because of its unusual propensities.

    Now, everyone who has ever owned a PC knows how much heat today's computer microprocessors generate. It's unearthly! And the faster they get, the more heat they generate. The power they consume is being turned into heat, like a toaster oven. That's why people call PCs "video toasters". This thing, if it were used to replace the transistors - the 130 million or so throughout your PC - would produce no heat. Instead of consuming 150 watts, it would probably consume one-thousandth of a watt. And it's been sitting on the shelves for nearly 50 years!
    In any event, we've got this story, and 9,000 messages and news items about it. Really strange things and people that come on: a fellow by the name of Wang on the private alleged web identities of two very public figures; fraudulent publications about ACC; hackers who hack into our website. If you go to our website and read through it, you'll be truly amazed. You'll be stunned, you'll be shocked. You will also walk away no longer a skeptic, if you were. If you're someone who believed, you will now see what I call "third party circumstantial evidence" that verifies that something very unusual happened in New Mexico in 1947.

    We recently received, courtesy of the Russian Federation, a transcript of a statement on the subject by Leonid Alexiev. Leonid Alexiev, a Russian General, chaired a blue-ribbon committee to look into this in 1997; it was brought to their attention when Bill Clinton went to Russia and some students stood up and said, "We saw this website called American Computer, and there it was said that the Defense Department has a UFO in the United States. Is this true, Mr Clinton?" Bill got up and said, "I don't know. No, no, it's not true. But wait a minute. I tried to ask the Defense Department, but they wouldn't tell me."

    In any event, the Russians decided to put together this committee, and I don't know if they spent the millions of dollars on our account; they might have. They sent us a copy of the transcript of the report by Alexiev, which was also carried on The Learning Channel, TLC. The Russians have decided there's an alien presence in our solar system, based on all the evidence - on these things they've examined. They've somehow got a hold of pictures of our transcapacitor from our lab. I don't know how, because we've never taken any. Leave it to the Russians! The KGB doesn't exist anymore; it's called the FSB now, right? And Alexiev has gone public, as have the Russians, and as a result of his report he has now been appointed by... what's the name of the head of the Russian Republic, the drunken guy? Yeltsin... Boris has appointed him head of the Russian Space Command.

    As an aside, we thought we would solicit a few senators' opinions. We solicited the offices of Senator Kennedy - another man who likes the glass of wine occasionally. In any event, we got a very strange reaction from the office of Senator Kennedy. They sent us a folio about a study that was done on funding, that was publicised by the Senator's office. In the middle of it they had yellowed out a section that talked about the deep space probe series that NASA is sending out - the Deep Space 1. I think they're naming them after that Star Trek show, Deep Space 9. When they get to nine, I don't know what they'll do!

    In any event, Deep Space 3 or Deep Space 4 is slated to receive a piece of equipment called a "laser cannon". At Lincoln Labs there's a funded project afoot to develop, on a rush basis, an offensive weapon based on laser technology, because wherever this deep-space probe is going, they believe they need it. Deep space is the space outside of the solar system, or at the extreme ends of the solar system. Apparently Senator Kennedy was one of the sponsors, but the senators and congressmen do not hold the same opinion as the Defense Department and the Air Force about whether there's an alien presence in or right outside of our solar system.

    So, right now, that's about where we're up to. We're starting to commercialise the transfer capacitor and look at partners; we're going to get it out there. We figured, why not? We've spent so much money on the research investigation, we might as well see if we can sell these things to people. British Telecom has jumped in and stated they've placed a letter-of-intent order with us. They're using it in a product they call the "Soul Catcher" chip [see Global News, NEXUS 3/06, Oct & Nov 1996]. We've had some preliminary discussions with a company called Shipley, the world's largest manufacturer of semiconductor materials.

    We've had discussions with Intel, IBM. Just in the last few months, a guy from IBM said, "You should have been dealing with us all along." "Well, why didn't you come to us?" "Well, I'm coming to you now." "There are a lot of people who are interested." "Well, we're IBM." "So? You had these in your lab all along and couldn't get them to work!"

    We're not sure what direction it's all going to go in, but I just wanted to end with this; this morning, as I was going up in the elevator, I felt like I was hanging upside down, holding the world up with my feet. The next time you get in the elevator out there, think about that. That's how we feel at ACC.

    http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/...swell-ufo.html
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    Default Re: Reverse-Engineering Roswell UFO Technology: Jack Shulman's statement

    Ben Rich quote: ""We have things in the Nevada desert that are alien to your way of thinking
    far beyond anything you see on Star Trek.""


    I have had major access to Extraterrestrial and Black Project Technology. I think some of the stuff he was talking about(alien to our way of life etc) is the chakra altering tech, virtual reality, and other stuff like music enhancing mind control technology if I had to take a stab at it.

    Thanks for the post WhiteFeather

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    Great article, thanks. The first book I read in my quest for information and truth was Colonel Corso's book, the day after Roswell, well worth a read. He describes how he covertly rolled out the Roswell technology into industry

    Also I think the book formed the bases of Paul Hellyers (ex Canadian Defence minister and G8) ET disclosure statements
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    Around the same time I found Col. Corso's book the Day After Roswell (2006) I had just been to Western Pennsylvania, and while driving there kept seeing signs on the road that said California.
    As a visitor to the US I thought it was strange, assuming it referred to CA, the state.
    So I was exploring, and followed the signs which took me off the Interstate, and onto a huge freeway, totally devoid of traffic. And after a few miles there was this small town, called California, PA. A university town...never heard of it. Had lunch there and left. Wondering how come such a small place had warranted such a huge entrance road.

    Within a year I read Col. Corso's book, and discovered that he was born in California, Pennsylvania.
    One of my little synchronicities....

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    I've followed the transcapacitor story for a long while. This is the result:

    • After two or three years of rumours the story suddenly disappeared from the internet.
    • There never came a follow up statement from Mr. Shulman, even though the story has been published in some more established magazines (such as in the professional computer magazine ct in Germany)
    • One of the claims how this device functions was storage of a multilevel voltage (perhaps 4...16 steps of voltage in a certain range) in each memory cell, so that up to 4 bits can be stored in each single memory cell. Indeed this is used in some of todays memory technologies, but it was not used in 1999 when the Jack Shulman papers appeared.
    • When you search the term "transcapacitor" today, you will not find those Jack Shulman papers anymore, because this term has been recoined to be used for another electronic component that has nothing to do with the Roswell story. Perhaps intentionally.

    Interesting enough: All of this points can lead one to the conclusion, that the story was real and it had to disappear from the public, but the results are in use.

    But you also can come to the opposite conclusion (fake story, nothing to see).
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    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    I developed something called the "pattern creator". That's where we got the term "PC". [...] I kind of grew up around the various projects at Bell Laboratories in the late 1960s and early 1970s.
    The term "Personal computer" was already in use in the late 1960s:

    Quote Posted by Wikipedia
    An early use of the term "personal computer" appeared in a November 3, 1962, New York Times article reporting John W. Mauchly's vision of future computing as detailed at a recent meeting of the American Institute of Industrial Engineers. Mauchly stated, "There is no reason to suppose the average boy or girl cannot be master of a personal computer".

    ([1] "Pocket Computer May Replace Shopping List". The New York Times. November 3, 1962.)
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    Thanks WhiteFeather,

    Rather strongly feel 2015, now... IS the year and time where the average working Folk are really going to finally move forward...with "I have had enough!" energy and get on board and help change it all faster than ANY technology...that is how Spirit moves : )

    We are hitting the turning point where the numbers needed are right there right now, FULLY understanding and comprehending and knowing personally that we all are very busy doing 'nothing' while "everything" is going on behind our backs...all planned very well with 'think tank' piggy backing 'think tank' to keep the sheeple sheep!

    Time really is UP...now, 2015!!!

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    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    I developed something called the "pattern creator". That's where we got the term "PC". [...] I kind of grew up around the various projects at Bell Laboratories in the late 1960s and early 1970s.
    The term "Personal computer" was already in use in the late 1960s:

    Quote Posted by Wikipedia
    An early use of the term "personal computer" appeared in a November 3, 1962, New York Times article reporting John W. Mauchly's vision of future computing as detailed at a recent meeting of the American Institute of Industrial Engineers. Mauchly stated, "There is no reason to suppose the average boy or girl cannot be master of a personal computer".

    ([1] "Pocket Computer May Replace Shopping List". The New York Times. November 3, 1962.)

    Not a big fan of Wikipedia as I'm not quite sure of its reliability within its infrastructure. But thanks for your contribution my friend.

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    Thanks WhiteFeather,

    Rather strongly feel 2015, now... IS the year and time where the average working Folk are really going to finally move forward...with "I have had enough!" energy and get on board and help change it all faster than ANY technology...that is how Spirit moves : )

    We are hitting the turning point where the numbers needed are right there right now, FULLY understanding and comprehending and knowing personally that we all are very busy doing 'nothing' while "everything" is going on behind our backs...all planned very well with 'think tank' piggy backing 'think tank' to keep the sheeple sheep!

    Time really is UP...now, 2015!!!
    From your typed words to God's tablet Eagle. I sure hope people will be onboard with us soon.
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    Can anyone help me with a couple of anomalies in this document. First, I am wondering where the British spelling came from – realise analyse commercialization organisation colour realised publicized? You sometimes get the opposite these days, since US English is the default language for word processing and UK spellings are automatically ‘corrected’ (Edit: as just happened in the above list), but there is no reason to have such in this very American document.

    Secondly I have a problem with the paragraph below
    Quote In any event, one day Lawrence is called in and he's asked: "How do we build a cyclotron big enough?" He makes a few calculations and hands a requisition order to Harold Ackerman - today a federal judge, and who was the chief supply clerk for the Manhattan Project - to requisition enough silver to build a big silver racetrack; something like 12 million tons of silver. In fact, he took it to the United States Treasury, handed it to the then Secretary of the Treasury - I guess it was Morganthal - and Morganthal was asked to fill a 12-million-ton order, which also necessitated the relocation of Z-Division to some place where they could put all this silver and build this racetrack.
    This paragraph makes two references to ‘12 million tons of silver’. That is a lot of silver. Even taking into account the possibility that the world’s reserves are vastly understated, the following site gives a grand total for ‘all the silver in the world’ of just 1,411,475 metric tons. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...l-silver-world
    In other words, the project was supposed to requisition over 6 times the world’s official current reserves; alternatively the guy meant to say 12 million ounces, or 12 million dollars worth, or maybe 12 thousand tons. Whichever it is, it seems a pretty huge slip to be making.
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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Can anyone help me with a couple of anomalies in this document. First, I am wondering where the British spelling came from – realise analyse commercialization organisation colour realised publicized? You sometimes get the opposite these days, since US English is the default language for word processing and UK spellings are automatically ‘corrected’, but there is no reason to have such in this very American document.

    Secondly I have a problem with the paragraph below
    Quote In any event, one day Lawrence is called in and he's asked: "How do we build a cyclotron big enough?" He makes a few calculations and hands a requisition order to Harold Ackerman - today a federal judge, and who was the chief supply clerk for the Manhattan Project - to requisition enough silver to build a big silver racetrack; something like 12 million tons of silver. In fact, he took it to the United States Treasury, handed it to the then Secretary of the Treasury - I guess it was Morganthal - and Morganthal was asked to fill a 12-million-ton order, which also necessitated the relocation of Z-Division to some place where they could put all this silver and build this racetrack.
    This paragraph makes two references to ‘12 million tons of silver’. That is a lot of silver. Even taking into account the possibility that the world’s reserves are vastly understated, the following site gives a grand total for ‘all the silver in the world’ of just 1,411,475 metric tons. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...l-silver-world
    In other words, the project was supposed to requisition over 6 times the world’s official current reserves; alternatively the guy meant to say 12 million ounces, or 12 million dollars worth, or maybe 12 thousand tons. Whichever it is, it seems a pretty huge slip to be making.
    Good point made here.
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    Default Re: Reverse-Engineering Roswell UFO Technology: Jack Shulman's statement

    yeah, the 12 million tons is a bit off.

    However, that does not make me dismiss the story. I do remember the original run of the story, from way back when.

    Which means, again, that the story of 50 years advancement of black ops technology per single year of of public life, is closer to the truth than the public wants to understand. As..the public cannot, at this time, even begin to imagine it.

    The whole idea of that level of clandestine advancement being tied to something like a de-population agenda, is a bit much for the average person to psychologically handle.

    Edit:
    I watched the original t-cap story come into being and I watched the cover-up and shift to another 't-cap' fake cover story begin and take hold.
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    Lets talk about terahertz frequency capable superconductive layered dimensional craft-skins....

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    Quote Posted by buares (here)
    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    I developed something called the "pattern creator". That's where we got the term "PC". [...] I kind of grew up around the various projects at Bell Laboratories in the late 1960s and early 1970s.
    The term "Personal computer" was already in use in the late 1960s:

    Quote Posted by Wikipedia
    An early use of the term "personal computer" appeared in a November 3, 1962, New York Times article reporting John W. Mauchly's vision of future computing as detailed at a recent meeting of the American Institute of Industrial Engineers. Mauchly stated, "There is no reason to suppose the average boy or girl cannot be master of a personal computer".

    ([1] "Pocket Computer May Replace Shopping List". The New York Times. November 3, 1962.)

    Not a big fan of Wikipedia as I'm not quite sure of its reliability within its infrastructure. But thanks for your contribution my friend.
    Hi WhiteFeather, the article is available in The New York Times archives (here) and the same title appeared the following day in The Oregon Statesman where the OCR text says "personalized computer" (see here) instead of "personal computer" for the New York Times original.

    The term PC did not come from Jack Shulman. Below is a copy of his website as it appeared in 2013:



    Notice the "Satire and Parody".

    Source: http://web.archive.org/web/201304140...cc-historical/

    His website in 1998: http://web.archive.org/web/199801211...om/roswell.htm
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    Sorry buares but I feel that is literally the most irrelevant and inconsequential non-element of the whole story. Why are we focusing on that?

    Also, didn't you become known as Atlas? You're buares again now are you? Confusing
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    Hi MorningFox, the OP is an article written by Jack Shulman who admitted that his story was a hoax.

    Quote Posted by Jack Shulman
    I believe the quote was "Some have said that AT&T reverse engineered an alien space craft that allegedly crashed in Roswell, New Mexico" and so on and so forth, quoting Corso, and the AT&T kids and Stan Friedman, and then American Computer opened up an inquiry to find out "what's the truth?". We had a lot of fun with it back in 1997 and so did the public. And yet, here it is 10 years later and only obsessed, quasi intellectual nutbags like you seem to be continuing to falsely allege we claimed proof that aliens were behind the Transistor. I note that only our competitors didn't appreciate all the fun everyone had with it, as evidenced by people like you who sought to attack American Computer.
    Source: http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/jackthekook.htm

    Fun story though.
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    Default Re: Reverse-Engineering Roswell UFO Technology: Jack Shulman's statement

    It still does not invalidate what I'm saying. not in the slightest.

    Remember the whole story about deniability? 'Pressure relief valve' falsification of data released?

    Importantly, I've always been vehemently against the ideas that the transistor came from 'alien craft', and have related that thinking on this forum, repeatedly.

    That we humans are more than intelligent enough... and the vast works put together by Joseph Farrell, illustrate that 1,000%, as clearly as can be. That we indeed have created things well beyond transistors and NO aliens involved.
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    Default Re: Reverse-Engineering Roswell UFO Technology: Jack Shulman's statement

    I happen to know Jack personally and have forwarded him this thread for his comment(s) should he desire to participate in any way.

    Jack has been attacked previously, as have other researchers/discoverers, and one of his family members was killed.

    If some seem to think this is all something to make light of, I think that is wrong and many things I would believe would need to be studied carefully to avoid being taken out of context.

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    Quote Posted by Olaf (here)
    I've followed the transcapacitor story for a long while. This is the result:

    • After two or three years of rumours the story suddenly disappeared from the internet.
    • There never came a follow up statement from Mr. Shulman, even though the story has been published in some more established magazines (such as in the professional computer magazine ct in Germany)
    • One of the claims how this device functions was storage of a multilevel voltage (perhaps 4...16 steps of voltage in a certain range) in each memory cell, so that up to 4 bits can be stored in each single memory cell. Indeed this is used in some of todays memory technologies, but it was not used in 1999 when the Jack Shulman papers appeared.
    • When you search the term "transcapacitor" today, you will not find those Jack Shulman papers anymore, because this term has been recoined to be used for another electronic component that has nothing to do with the Roswell story. Perhaps intentionally.

    Interesting enough: All of this points can lead one to the conclusion, that the story was real and it had to disappear from the public, but the results are in use.

    But you also can come to the opposite conclusion (fake story, nothing to see).
    Here, I have found a few links of Dr Jack Shulman, I'm not sure if it's the one you're searching for though!

    http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1866.htm

    http://www.uri-geller.com/t3.htm

    http://www.bahaistudies.net/asma/jack_shulman.pdf

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    Hello Everyone:
    Thanks for this article Whitefeather! It was good information. I went to the website in the article"
    "If you go to our main website, http://accpc.com, at the bottom of the page is a nav bar with a pointer in the middle of the corporate info products, catalogue, features, tech support, Roswell 1947, help. You can go to that link and click on it and it'll take you to this special page which, of course, has now grown tremendously. It has something like, we estimate, about 9,000 messages and articles now stored within it."

    Unfortunately there is no link on the website. I might be naive but thought it's possible that this information could "remotely -possibly" still be there. It was not.

    I find it fascinating that truth can be in plain sight and we can't seem to locate it.
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    Try this link chancy: http://web.archive.org/web/200605010...ast/config.cgi

    It says: "7769 of 7769 Messages Displayed"
    Scroll down and you will be able to read messages like this one:

    Re: Jack Shulman, during an interview with a Canadian Radio Station, identifies some of the Signatures and Dates found in the Shopkeeper's Notebook "etc", which the Consultant brought to him back in 1996...
    Sunday, 25 June 2000, at 10:49 p.m.

    : In a very interesting radio programme on a Canadian station, Jack Shulman
    : gave a very rare interview (these days) and during it, names some names I
    : thought you all would be interested in. Here are the quotes...

    : Host "I think we all know that both Glen Campbell, UFOMind, and Nancy
    : Lieder, Zetatalk, carried falsified allegations regarding your having been
    : interviewed by an Atlantic City, New Jersey radio station, calling the UFO
    : community 'a bunch of losers'..."

    : Jack "Yes, [name], I obviously never gave any interview to ANY Atlantic
    : City radio station, and I caused the entire Investigation of Roswell to
    : come into being, to try to find out the Truth, and to support the vast
    : majority of the UFO community doing likewise. I was actually quite
    : mortified at the PRESS and the CIA and the NSA and the DOD for harassing
    : people who expressed an interest in UFOlogy, and have spent an enormous
    : amount of money doing things I think might contribute towards remedying
    : that unfair proposition. As to the alleged Interview (which was apparently
    : fashioned by Todd Andrews, in anger) in fact, the article pretty much
    : sounds more like Lan Lamphere's last letter to the UFO community on his
    : 'Nexxus' website, since the falsified radio announcement was written by
    : his alleged friend Tod Andrews, I wouldn't be surprised if they simply
    : decided to flip the tables on one another. My former employer sued
    : Lamphere for libel and other torts, and won a $462,000 judgment against
    : him."

    : Host "Whew, that must have been enought to send Lamphere scurrying for
    : the underground!"

    : Jack "It was. I personally believe Lieder and Andrews, along with
    : Campbell and Lamphere, are people without a conscience, who will do
    : anything for money, they don't really care who they hurt, so long as they
    : hurt their 'appointed targets'. I believe the Z-division project that
    : attacked ACC, made an arrangement with each of them, whether they were
    : consciously aware of it or not. I think you'll find the so-called UFO
    : community, riddled with Federal Agents and their confidential operatives,
    : all messing around with people's minds, over and over and over. It's a
    : mandate that was concocted by the CIA during its efforts to create cover
    : for its own covert surveillance of foreign governments and military, such
    : as with Area 51/Groom Lake's Janet facility, where no UFOs are presently
    : hidden, but where the CIA wishes people to believe UFOs are hidden, hence
    : Glen Campbell, who does programming work for one of the milintel labs down
    : in the Nevada area, but pretends to be operating that Area 51 bookstore,
    : acts out the part of the irate public UFO conspiracy theorist and hangs
    : out outside of the borders of Groom Lake, interjecting nonsense into the
    : information stream concocted for him by the CIA, framed by a series of
    : what appear to be plausible theories and appearances of outrage. He's a
    : total phony, by the way, or so it appears. It's pretty slick, what the CIA
    : is up to, I've interacted with them before, on technology stuff, and
    : there's very little you or I can do to stop them from pulling dirty tricks
    : like this, and like the Campbell website, which is nothing BUT dirty
    : tricks. He has 'put-ups' on the site, people intentionally acting like
    : they are sick, delusional, he attacks them, and then uses them as examples
    : to attack innocent targets of CIA interference. Glenn may not be a
    : government employee, but he seems to be clearly some kind of contractor to
    : them."

    : Host "Now that's fascinating. I had always believed that Campbell was
    : some kind of fake, his website is carefully designed to look like its a
    : public contribution site, but I notice that it mainly appears to have
    : attacks on people authored by Campbell, or a small group of people who
    : perrenially attack such as Art Bell, yourself and Stanton Friedman. He
    : even carried those vicious personal attacks on Art, who is a good friend
    : of mine. Well, moving on to another subject that should interest those
    : Conspiracy Theorists out there: Jack, you told me earlier, that when you
    : were examining the Shopkeeper's Notebook, you noticed a number of what
    : appear to be military documents signed and sealed. Would you care to
    : elaborate?"

    : Jack "Sure, [name]! During my examination of the books, I noticed a
    : number of special orders which led me to believe that portions of the
    : Shopkeeper's Notebook were military in nature."

    : Host "Were these official Army documents of some kind?"

    : Jack "Yes, in fact some were from the early 50's, and they were signed
    : by an Admiral Roscoe Hillerkoeter, ordering the disposition of some
    : documents be transferred between Langley Air Force Base, and a facility
    : belonging to IBM Corporation, as well as setting forward a numbering
    : system he wanted adopted for pieces of debris. The Notebook was literally
    : filled with official documents, it looks like Proskauer was including
    : anything of relevence during his long stay at the Labs."

    : Host "What other official US Government documents can you
    : recollect?"

    : Jack "Well, there was a letter from the Strategic Headquarters in
    : Europe, authorizing, countersigned by several Nato signatures, one John or
    : Joseph Allen Hyneck, to issue false statements to the press without
    : liability, about various strategic assessments of UFO reports made by the
    : Public. There was quite a back and forth, apparently late in his career,
    : neither Hillerkoeter nor Proskauer were willing to perpetuate the lies
    : hiding whatever had been encountered by the Army. One of the NATO US guys
    : who signed several memos was, I believe, a General Lemnitz or
    : Remnitz."

    : Jack "There was a copy of several letters written much much later by
    : then Senator Gerald Ford, later President, demanding that, as oversite
    : senator on matters of 'cosmic top secret' status - a phrase coined by the
    : Military - the Public should be brought in on the secret, and made aware
    : of what the Military had encountered, presumably referring to supposed
    : contacts with UFOs. That was something dated about 1968 around the time of
    : the Democratic National Convention riots, if I recall or Bobby Kennedy's
    : assassination, I forget which. Ford felt that the damage done to the
    : public by keeping it a secret far outweighed any strategic gain associated
    : with keeping the 'assessed contacts with aliens and UFO's a secret'.
    : quote/unquote."

    : Host "Would you say, in your own mind, that the Notebook documents make
    : it more than just mildly likely that aliens exist and UFOs are just space
    : craft of some kind, more advanced than our technology?"

    : Jack "It appears that way, from the documents. The problem is, despite
    : their credibility, and my staff has checked all the correlations and dates
    : and documents and references to various government personnel, and they
    : jive, you still have to look at how far Military Intelligence is willing
    : to go to throw up a smokescreen. I don't know: you'll have to judge for
    : yourself. I have suspicions, after the past four years, but that is all.
    : We know that a black ops SANDIA group involved with the Electronic
    : Warfare, Lockheed Martin, and Mafia connection to the Z-Division, which is
    : involed in defense of the US by Nuclear and other technologies, such as
    : SDI, has been behind the various attacks on us. They often use Australia
    : as a vantage point, because we have one heck of a huge DIA/NSA facility in
    : Australia, and its a very big safe haven."

    : Host "So it's pretty clear to you, Jack, that the Government is behind
    : all the strange events that have plagued ACC and you, since mid 1997... am
    : I correct in saying that?

    : Jack "Well, I don't know about all, but the fact is, they must have
    : known that we were assaying the Shopkeeper's Notebooks back in 95 and 96,
    : because they began laying the groundwork for efforts to put American
    : Computer out of business at least a year and a half to two years PRIOR to
    : our first announcement of what we were Investigating, eg- they started
    : casing ACC in June of 1995, we didn't release our public information until
    : July of 1997. In between, the Lockheed/Martin, Sandia, X/Z Divisions were
    : casing ACC and me, resulting in the mess that subsequently took place. And
    : the situation, as no doubt you know which led to my decision to sell
    : American Computer, so that I could get some of the people on my staff
    : caught in this silly cross fire 'out of Dodge', was not pleasant, nor the
    : decisions associated with the sale, easy ones... Sadly, the CIA is behind
    : every last bit of it. They have such a narrow vision there, on the subject
    : of UFOs and Aliens... They are the only organization of Government with
    : direct access to Lockheed Martin, the Gambino Organized Crime Family, the
    : Russian Mafia and Garry Kasparov, and the smaller bit part players, in
    : this thing. Certainly, they fear our Investigation. Lord knows why,
    : perhaps the Truth is so devastating, lest it be known, they will go to any
    : lengths to prevent its acceptance by the Public. Obviously, someone with a
    : mental bean counter personality in Sanabel Island or elsewhere, made a
    : stupid decision and got the President to sign budget over to back this
    : Conspiracy, whatever the Truth is, targetting ACC and me, is just plain
    : dumb, and anyone who would, dumber. Yes, [name] I just called the CIA and
    : the Z-Division 'Dumb and Dumber'. The shoe fits."

    : -----
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