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    Default Obama Supporters Endorse Karl Marx (short video)

    I find these kind of interviews amusing, its like people are asleep, or perhaps they just don't know or care



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    Default Re: Obama Supporters Endorse Karl Marx (short video)

    Yep, Carl was fantastic in keeping the USSR floating! I remember a quote from a USSR worker in their hay day, "They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work."

    Nothing like have a a Muslim dictator preside over the U.S.!

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    Default Re: Obama Supporters Endorse Karl Marx (short video)

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    ...Nothing like have a a Muslim dictator preside over the U.S.!
    Mark Dice is a bit kooky in some of his beliefs, but he does a damn good job of underscoring how ignorant and utterly uninformed many US citizens are. So far, I have never met and had a conversation with a "foreigner" (non-US citizen) here in the US that was anywhere near as uninformed as the average US citizen. Many know US history (and world history) well enough to have an in-depth, intelligent discussion.

    More proof: you get people like Oouthere that repeat crap they heard on a talk show of a well-paid ignorant and utterly uninformed talk-show host. Of course, Obummer is neither a Muslim nor a dictator. Not that it would matter what his religion is (unless you happen to fear or hate Muslims), but his actual religion is capitalism - anything else is for show. Calling him a "dictator" is also very ignorant - the truth is much more sinister, much more malevolent, and much much harder to overcome than simply toppling a dictator. O'Bomber is a figurehead, a stooge, a puppet for the Shadow Government. He is allowed to order whatever he wants for breakfast - but the rest of the decisions are handled much higher up than the office of President of the United States.


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    Default Re: Obama Supporters Endorse Karl Marx (short video)

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    ...Nothing like have a a Muslim dictator preside over the U.S.!
    Obummer is neither a Muslim nor a dictator. Not that it would matter what his religion is (unless you happen to fear or hate Muslims), but his actual religion is capitalism - anything else is for show.
    I have no idea which religion Obama privately practices. But I find it obvious that his policies are consistent with corporatocratic ideas. Corporations pay him for favors. Political intervention on behalf of certain corporations distorting the dynamics of the market is rampant under his administration.

    Whereas capitalism is "an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state." The state has no say in capitalism. Corporations wouldn't pay Obama or any other figurehead in capitalism, because the president couldn't rig the markets as is being done today.

    Today the economical and political system is controlled by private owners through their control of the state. That's a very important difference from what capitalism is.

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    Default Re: Obama Supporters Endorse Karl Marx (short video)

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    ...Nothing like have a a Muslim dictator preside over the U.S.!
    Obummer is neither a Muslim nor a dictator. Not that it would matter what his religion is (unless you happen to fear or hate Muslims), but his actual religion is capitalism - anything else is for show.
    I have no idea which religion Obama privately practices. But I find it obvious that his policies are consistent with corporatocratic ideas. Corporations pay him for favors. Political intervention on behalf of certain corporations distorting the dynamics of the market is rampant under his administration.

    Whereas capitalism is "an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state." The state has no say in capitalism. Corporations wouldn't pay Obama or any other figurehead in capitalism, because the president couldn't rig the markets as is being done today.

    Today the economical and political system is controlled by private owners through their control of the state. That's a very important difference from what capitalism is.
    Well, there's just no way that I can give you my full viewpoint and not derail this thread, so, I'll save it for a "capitalism" thread. :~)


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    Default Re: Obama Supporters Endorse Karl Marx (short video)

    Being a former member of the British section of the fourth international in France a Marxist, Leninist, Trotskyite communist International movement I can quite categorically assure you that Obama is not and never will be a Marxist. He is not a secret Muslim and he is not a Marxist and quite frankly it shows your ignorance of politics to accuse him of being so. Obama is New World Order and the New World Order is Fascist. Fascism according to Mousseline is the marriage of state and corporatism. Communism as envisioned by Marx is the equal distribution of wealth that is created by the workers to the workers. The only similarity between the New World Order and that of International communism is the fact that it has to be International in scope. Hence the rallying call/slogan of Workers of the World Unite. I hope this explains (in brief) the miss labelling of Obomba as a Marxist. If he is a Marxist I am Lord Lucan.

    Off point a little but here is a quiz question for you. What country in the Western hemisphere had the largest communist membership and what was the party called?

    Answer is the USA and the party was called Socialist Workers Party.
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    Default Re: Obama Supporters Endorse Karl Marx (short video)

    I am accused of repeating crap, but yet you can say something completely unsubstantiated and everyone is to believe it?

    Numerous times Obama has refused to call Muslim terrorists out for what they are. Out right lies about the Benghazi incident stating it was an anti-Muslim film that originated the attack.

    Obama's first formal interview as President was with a Muslim network, not a U.S. network. .

    Obama's first interview

    The spokesman for President Abbas revealed that Mr Obama had told the Palestinian leader that their conversation was his first with a foreign statesman since taking office

    Obama sites that the U.S. is not a Christian country, but that is it's founding origins. He has been quoted saying he grew-up with a Koran in his home.

    Here's is an interview with Larry King stating he was not brought-up in a Muslim household:



    And here is a quote from his book, "Dreams of My Father" showing he speaks from both sides of his face. Also, if you look-up the documents for his school registrations while overseas it states he is a Muslim.

    "In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut. But that didn't change how I felt inside."
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