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    Here's something new from Natural News:
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    Today, on the NaturalHealth365 Podcast, we have a serious warning about fluoridated water. Fluoride damages bone and muscle tissue.

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    The water fluoridation issue has been heating up in Arkansas.
    So I'll be posting news here, but any news about fluoridation is welcome.
    Here's something new from Natural News:
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    Here's Jonathan Landsman's interview of Cathy Justus, a horse breeder, about fluoride in the drinking water of humans and horses:

    Source: http://media.blubrry.com/naturalheal...t-03-02-15.mp3
    Cathy Landsman successfully campaigned to stop the fluoridation of water in her town – talk about the dangers of fluoride in U.S. drinking water, like you’ve never heard before.
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    A brief intro to Cathy Justus, frmo Contact Fluoride Free Prince George:

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    Fluoride affects all animals from rats, to cattle and prized horses. Cathy Justus from Pagosa Springs, Colorado is the Fluoride Action Network’s National Spokesperson Against Fluoride Poisoning in Animals. Her first hand experience on the harm from fluoridation is confirmed from owning the first horses to ever be diagnosed with “chronic fluoride poisoning” resulting from their consumption of artificially fluoridated municipal water.

    "We have now lost 8 horses and 4 dogs to this virulent, cumulative, toxin and this has been scientifically proven."
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    Calcium moves around the body wherever needed, in the brain, the heart, the bones, and every other organ of the body. Flouride, chemically similar, moves into space vacated by calcium BUT DOES NOT MOVE OUT. It makes bones brittle, break and dissolve, especially the spine. It mottles teeth and they eventually break. It destroys the pinneal gland which is our contact with spirit, and PROZAK
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    Default Re: A thread about fluoridation

    More about the subject of the show here:
    http://www.naturalhealth365.com/fluo...pply-1334.html
    Quote (NaturalHealth365) In Europe, only Ireland, Poland, Serbia, Spain and the U.K. fluoridate any of their water supply sources. In fact, most developed countries – including Japan and 97% of the western European people – do not consume fluoridated water.
    Yet, in the United States, about 70% of public water supply is fluoridated and it’s all funded by taxpayer dollars. This equates to approximately 185 million people, which is over half the number of people drinking artificially fluoridated water worldwide.
    Today, on the NaturalHealth365 Podcast, Jonathan Landsman and Cathy Justus, a horse breeder – who successfully campaigned to stop the fluoridation of water in her town – talk about the dangers of fluoride in U.S. drinking water, like you’ve never heard before. You’ll quickly see what’s going on here and why you should be so concerned about your water. Cathy’s story is quite dramatic!
    Links related to the show:
    1. For more information about Cathy Justus – her email address is freely offered at the 29:16 mark of this podcast – above.
    2. To purchase the book: “The Case against Fluoride: How Hazardous Wast Ended Up in Our Drinking Water and the Bad Science and Powerful Politics That Keep It There” – go to Amazon.com.
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    The ugly truth about the history of fluoride?
    Most people have no idea that fluoride was actually a toxic ingredient used by World War II researchers for weapons of mass destruction. Massive quantities of fluoride were used to develop bomb-grade uranium and plutonium for nuclear weapons throughout the Cold War.
    After WWII, fluoride was turned into a popular form of rat poison. Once the rat poison market was ‘maxed out’, scientists were challenged by industry leaders to come up with another usage for this toxic ingredient.
    Today, fluoride is routinely added to the water supply of around 10% of the UK population (though this figure is set to rise) and more than 60% of the U.S. population. These figures are in stark contrast to the 98% of Western Europe that has rejected fluoridation on the grounds that it does not work and that it is morally reprehensible to forcibly medicate whole populations of people.
    Most people have been lied to about the ‘safety’ of fluoride. This toxic ingredient does NOT protect teeth. In fact, when you look at the scientific research – it’s the opposite. Fluoride actually causes dental fluorosis – a defect of tooth enamel caused by too much fluoride intake during the first 8 years of life.
    Shocking admissions by scientific experts about the dangers of fluoride
    ”I would advise against fluoridation…Side-effects cannot be excluded…In Sweden, the emphasis nowadays is to keep the environment as clean as possible with regard to pharmacologically active and, thus, potentially toxic substances.” – - Dr. Arvid Carlsson, co-winner of the Nobel Prize for Medicine (2000)
    “The American Medical Association is NOT prepared to state that no harm will be done to any person by water fluoridation. The AMA has not carried out any research work, either long-term or short-term, regarding the possibility of any side effects.” – Dr. Flanagan, Assistant Director of Environmental Health, American Medical Association.
    “I am appalled at the prospect of using water as a vehicle for drugs. Fluoride is a corrosive poison that will produce serious effects on a long range basis. Any attempt to use water this way is deplorable.” – - Dr. Charles Gordon Heyd, Past President of the American Medical Association.
    “E.P.A. should act immediately to protect the public, not just on the cancer data, but on the evidence of bone fractures, arthritis, mutagenicity and other effects.” – Dr. William Marcus, Senior Toxicologist at E.P.A.
    “Water contains a number of substances that are undesirable, and fluorides are just one of them.” – Dr. F. A. Bull, State Dental Director of Wisconsin, speaking at the Fourth Annual Conference of State Dental Directors.
    Program highlights:
    Find out how Cathy discovered that fluoride was poisoning her horses.
    Learn about the many (common) health problems associated with fluoride in drinking water.
    Why did some horses get sicker than others?
    In interesting discussion about how the town reacted to Cathy’s activism plus, what you can do to get fluoride out of your drinking water.

    - See http://www.naturalhealth365.com/fluo...pply-1334.html
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    Calcium moves around the body wherever needed, in the brain, the heart, the bones, and every other organ of the body. Flouride, chemically similar, moves into space vacated by calcium BUT DOES NOT MOVE OUT. It makes bones brittle, break and dissolve, especially the spine. It mottles teeth and they eventually break. It destroys the pineal gland which is our contact with spirit, and its takes up space in the heart and blood vessels. My dearest friend of 58 years was given this poison unnecessarily. Her back became an unsupported spinal cord and her heart valves failed. I know another person traveling the same route. This POISON is being given to children and everyone up the ladder. GENOCIDE.
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    The above post is about Fluoride in water AND IN PROZAC

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    People tend to dismiss the fluoride issue because it is seemingly a micro dosing of one part per million- why are they so intent on putting this toxin in our water, when even the literature in the mainstream talks of a possible benefit to 'topical' applications of fluoride to children's teeth - not ingesting it! It is a brainwashing for sure when dental authorities so vehemently argue for the fluoridation of water supplies - we are condemned to ingest it all our lives building in our bones and poisoning us. I hate this scheme with a vengeance - forced medication of the water supply, water that we all have to have to survive - it is just so stupid.

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    About that "Rat poison" (warning: not as graphic as Gaza's or Donesk's bombed humans but... still...):
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    Here's what's happening in Godzone, apparently "100% pure". Yeah, right !!


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    "Poisoning Paradise - Ecocide in New Zealand" takes you into the drop-zone of aerial 1080 operations, beneath the canopy, where the birds and animals live. For the first time, supported by scientific evidence and indisputable footage, this film fully exposes the truth about a culture that is believed will eventually see New Zealand left as a toxic wasteland, and an international embarrassment.

    1080. Indiscriminate killing of all life... of whatever comes next in the food chain or drinks from a contaminated water supply. 1080 does not break down. It remains active in every part of the food chain. This means that by the time it gets to the human level of the food chain, we don't die... we just end up with 'mysterious' illnesses and a high prevalence of cancer. Please continue to protest Against 1080. Picket. Campaign. Lobby. Sign on to every petition you can find... Write to your MP. Pour your energy into making a stand against the ongoing Poisoning of Paradise, OUR country, New Zealand.






    Source - The Graf Boys





    This is a slow painful death affecting the nervous system of the animal. For a large animal like this domesticated horse or a wild deer, it takes around 3-4 days of having seizures before death finally comes.




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    For anyone interested in this topic, I highly recommend The Fluoride Deception by Christopher Bryson. Beware, though, because as full of vital information as it is, I think that overall, the book might be a disinformation piece.

    p.s. Fluorine is the most highly reactive element known to man

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorine

    p.s. Fluoride also displaces iodine in the thyroid gland and the rest of the body. See Iodine: Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It by David Brownstein, M.D.
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    Calcium moves around the body wherever needed, in the brain, the heart, the bones, and every other organ of the body. Flouride, chemically similar, moves into space vacated by calcium BUT DOES NOT MOVE OUT. It makes bones brittle, break and dissolve, especially the spine. It mottles teeth and they eventually break. It destroys the pineal gland which is our contact with spirit, and its takes up space in the heart and blood vessels. My dearest friend of 58 years was given this poison unnecessarily. Her back became an unsupported spinal cord and her heart valves failed. I know another person traveling the same route. This POISON is being given to children and everyone up the ladder. GENOCIDE.
    Fluoride is also in the antibiotic Cipro. I had to take Cipro one time, and its effects on me were horrendous. It made me as ill in its own way as the infection I was taking it for did. Fluoride is also a kind of anti-intelligence mineral. Iodine is the mineral of intelligence, and fluoride blocks the uptake of iodine in the thyroid, and also throughout the whole body.

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    Whats the difference between Sodium Flouride and Flouride because on some products it has Flouride included but doesn't say Sodium Flouride? Is there not a natural Flouride out in nature that can be in some Water?

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    Fluoride Whistleblower with Hidden Camera Footage
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    Adam Kokesh interviews Brett Cantwell a water treatment operator who has become a whistleblower against fluoride; ultimately he was fired from his $27 per hour job......in the interview it does not say what district or state in which he worked.
    This footage shows point source of fluoride from Japan, but it's generally from China.
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    Whats the difference between Sodium Flouride and Flouride because on some products it has Flouride included but doesn't say Sodium Flouride? Is there not a natural Flouride out in nature that can be in some Water?
    Sodium fluoride is natural. Fluoride is the most aggressive electron grabber known to man, and so it is rarely or never found as an element. It bonds readily with other elements and forms compounds such as sodium fluoride, calcium fluoride, fluorocarbons, hydrogen fluoride, etc.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride

    It is an enzyme poison...truly horrible stuff...and has no business being added to the water supply or to toothpaste in any form.

    For the real story of why it was added to the water supply in the first place, see The Fluoride Deception, by Christopher Bryson.

    Hint: it had to do with what happened at Nagasaki:



    p.s. If the label only says "fluoride" then there is no way to know what compound of fluoride the product contains. If its toothpaste, though, then its probably either sodium fluoride or calcium fluoride.
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    The Arkansas Senate Public Health, Welfare and Labor Committee met today to take up action on the House Bill 1355, An Act To Provide Local Control Over Fluoride Levels In Water Systems, that passed the Arkansas House by a margin of about two-to-one recently.
    However, the Senate Public Health Committee voted the bill down.
    The bill had to be passed by the committee in order for it to be voted on by the entire Senate, opening the way for it to become law.
    While fluoride opponents weren't notified when the hearing would be held, dental groups were posting online that they expected to testify against the bill when the committee held the hearing.
    The failure to schedule a hearing on the issue early enough to allow fluoride opponents to organize to attend reminds anti-fluoridation groups of the stealthy way the fluoride mandate was passed by the legislature in 2011 late in the session with little opportunity for public input, while pro fluoridation groups like the Delta Dental Foundation were intimately involved in drafting the legislation.
    The statewide group Secure Arkansas said passage of the fluoride mandate bill is an example of legislators being paid for their votes. “Most of the legislators that voted for the bill received a campaign donation from Arkansas Dental PAC for their ‘yea’ votes,” Secure Arkansas said. “Some legislators received over $4,000 for this one vote.”
    Most of those same legislators are still on the public health committee.
    The Eureka Springs Independent News called and emailed members of the public health committee this past week. One said he was learning towards supporting passage of the legislation.
    “I do have some reservations about it,” said Sen. John Cooper, Jonesboro. “I think it is probably beneficial, but I also support local control rather than have it mandated by the state. I have mixed feelings about the bill, actually, but most likely I will wind up supporting the legislation. There is a lot of activity about this bill, a lot of emails and phone calls, on both sides of it. I hate to say in advance of hearing a bill whether I’m going to support it or not because you want to hear the bill presented. But I tend to support it, and most likely that is where I will be when the vote is taken. I will still listen to all the issues as they are presented.”
    Cooper said he thought fluoride was a bigger issue in Eureka Springs than anywhere else in the state.
    Longtime fluoridation opponent Crystal Harvey of Hot Springs thought that it was critical that the legislators hear about new research linking fluoridation to thyroid problems and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder in children.
    “It is almost divine providence that these two new studies would come out at the same time that the legislature is considering returning control of fluoridation to local water districts,” said Harvey.
    The study published recently in Environmental Health said each one percent increase in artificial fluoridation prevalence in 1992 was associated with approximately 67,000 to 131,000 additional ADHD diagnoses from 2003 to 2011. The study concludes parents reported higher rates of medically-diagnosed ADHD in their children in states where a greater proportion of people receive fluoridated water from public water supplies.
    “The relationship between fluoride exposure and ADHD warrants future study,” the authors said. A review of the research published in Science Daily said the research suggests public officials rethink the public health policy to fluoridate the water supply in a bid to protect teeth.
    The U.S. puts more fluoridation chemicals in drinking water than the rest of the world combined. Some health experts warn there is an epidemic of hypothyroidism in the U.S. There are also concerns about a thyroid epidemic in dogs.
    Despite the new research and growing opposition to fluoridation in Arkansas, the committee voted as expected.
    The late anti-fluoridation proponent Jeff Green
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    ...advised many communities who were fighting fluoride that the best way to get states to back down was to threaten to bring the issue to court. Close examination of all the issues, including the unconstitutionality of medicating people without their permission, has proven so embarrassing to state level proponents that in most cases, the states simply stopped enforcing the fluoridation mandates for those communities.
    It remains to be seen if anti-fluoridation factions in Arkansas will pursue this step, but it seems that all other measures have been exhausted, so that would the next likely one.
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    this may be a slightly unpopular take Nat, but my experience tells me fluoride works pretty well when used in toothpaste and/or mouthwash. (note: i am totally against using it in my drinking water, and dont)

    couple years ago, i assiduously brushed and flossed and rinsed my mouth with fluoride-free products...but i kept getting these small cavities by my gum line. im a little vulnerable to this due to the ribose i take sublingually and the honey i put in my hawthorn preparations, but i was still surprised to learn i had a couple cavities - i was downright ocd about my teeth.

    now, flash forward 2 yrs later or so...
    im not nearly as teeth conscious as i was before...i simply brush with fluoride toothpaste and rinse maybe once a day with a fluoride mouthwash. no flossing or anything else. and ive been cavity free ever since. and im still doing everything i did before

    so the stuff works..in my experience anyway
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    this may be a slightly unpopular take Nat, but my experience tells me fluoride works pretty well when used in toothpaste and/or mouthwash. (note: i am totally against using it in my drinking water, and dont)

    couple years ago, i assiduously brushed and flossed and rinsed my mouth with fluoride-free products...but i kept getting these small cavities by my gum line. im a little vulnerable to this due to the ribose i take sublingually and the honey i put in my hawthorn preparations, but i was still surprised to learn i had a couple cavities - i was downright ocd about my teeth.

    now, flash forward 2 yrs later or so...
    im not nearly as teeth conscious as i was before...i simply brush with fluoride toothpaste and rinse maybe once a day with a fluoride mouthwash. no flossing or anything else. and ive been cavity free ever since. and im still doing everything i did before

    so the stuff works..in my experience anyway
    Thanks, Mike, you have convinced me to get some fluoride toothpaste and mouthwash (not tested on animals, ones), and this is after a few years of me having fluoride free aloe vera toothpaste, and having to have a few fillings - more than ever before in that amount of time...I noticed that the "natural" toothpaste wasn't as good for my teeth as the fluoride ones, but I was in denial cause I sooo much didn't want the fluoride one in case it was too toxic...A few times I had a little battle inside whether to get it again, or not...and I didn't...but now, yeah I'll try it again.

    (and it reminds me of those raw foodists who have lost teeth and had damaged teeth, early...)...
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    Herve, about your link #9 above ( https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post939270 )
    can you find anywhere a peition for the people of the world to sign demanding this cease?

    There are times we should not be silent, but should voice our firm "NO" to this or that insanity.

    In Ontario, Canada, 75.9% of Ontario has an artificially fluoridated water supply (http://www.theregenesisproject.com/mf-ontario).

    Someone asked Cosmic Awareness once what to do if you had no choice but to drink fluoridated water. The response was that a kind of alchemy is created when you put your water through a vortex (as researched by Viktor Schauberger) at the point of drinking it. This effect is not permanent over time, but it will obviate the harm of fluoride in the body. There are a number of vortex devices available - Clayton Nolte makes one; another kind is by River of Life water vortexer.

    Dr. Gerald Pollock, discoverer of "exclusion zone" water or the fourth state of water, said in an interview that he and his wife only drink structured water and have basically all the varieties on the market to structure water. (http://www.structuredwaterunit.com/D...d_Pollack.html)

    In the meantime, people need to actively talk to their local municipatlities and governments to say "NO" to this poison, to counter the lies spoken by current science that it "helps teeth".

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    Quote Posted by Meggings (here)
    Herve, about your link #9 above ( https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post939270 ) Someone asked Cosmic Awareness once what to do if you had no choice but to drink fluoridated water. The response was that a kind of alchemy is created when you put your water through a vortex (as researched by Viktor Schauberger) at the point of drinking it. This effect is not permanent over time, but it will obviate the harm of fluoride in the body. There are a number of vortex devices available - Clayton Nolte makes one; another kind is by River of Life water vortexer.

    Dr. Gerald Pollock, discoverer of "exclusion zone" water or the fourth state of water, said in an interview that he and his wife only drink structured water and have basically all the varieties on the market to structure water. (http://www.structuredwaterunit.com/D...d_Pollack.html)
    Meggins... Many thanks for the information on the vortexed or structured water units. I had not heard of these and after reading some of the information, they the best choice for those of us tied into a fluoride city wide water source.

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    Quote Posted by Silkie (here)
    [...]

    It is an enzyme poison...truly horrible stuff...and has no business being added to the water supply or to toothpaste in any form.

    For the real story of why it was added to the water supply in the first place, see The Fluoride Deception, by Christopher Bryson.

    Hint: it had to do with what happened at Nagasaki:

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    Hello Silkie,

    ... maybe... it's a cover-up for this nastier operation: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post940342
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