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    Default Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    This is an interesting article and possible theory ? But when he says there were
    two groups the Cydonians and the Utopians that were destroyed by ET's it gets
    a bit Sci -fi , but it is published in a mainstream new paper in a neutral way which
    is interesting. He has serious credentials and these are theories as most of science is.

    I will have to listen to the vid tomorrow after work as its almost time for bed..LOL

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    Mass Extinction and Nuclear Catastrophe on Mars ! March 2015



    Published on 14 Mar 2015


    Everything you have been taught about Mars is wrong. The terrible truth: Mars was
    actually Earthlike for most of its geologic history. Mars held a massive and evolving
    biosphere. Mars was the wracked by a mysterious and astonishing nuclear catastrophe.
    We are, biologically and culturally, the Children of Mars. Life and Death on Mars: The
    New Mars Synthesis -going boldly where no human has gone before. Mass Extinction
    and Nuclear Catastrophe on Mars!

    John Brandenburg, PhD is a plasma physicist. He did his graduate work in California at
    Lawrence Livermore National Lab in controlled plasmas for fusion power, and has
    worked in defense, energy, and space research. Dr. Brandenburg was also part of the
    Clementine Mission to the Moon which discovered water at the Moon's poles. However,
    the focus of Brandenburg's scientific career has been to complete the great effort of
    Einstein to unify the two long range forces of nature, gravity and electromagnetism.

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    Were Martians wiped out by a nuclear bomb? Physicist to present new evidence for
    bizarre theory at Nasa conference

    Wednesday 18th March 2015 at 07:30 By David Icke




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    Were Martians wiped out by a nuclear bomb? Physicist to present new evidence for
    bizarre theory at Nasa conference
    Dr John Brandenburg is to present his theory in Houston, Texas today
    He says an ancient Mars civilisation was wiped out by a nuclear bomb
    Evidence for this apparently comes from a 'weapon's signature'
    And there is apparently no other explanation for his evidence
    Earth could also be under threat of attack, claimed Dr Brandenburg

    By Jonathan O'Callaghan for MailOnline

    Published: 13:37, 17 March 2015 | Updated: 14:49, 17 March 2015

    In November 2014, plasma physicist Dr John Brandenburg revealed his theory that an
    ancient civilisation on Mars was massacred in a nuclear attack.Now, he’s back, and he’s
    going to be presenting new evidence for his theory at a Nasa-sponsored conference
    today.He claims there is no other explanation for his proposal that a ‘weapon’s
    signature’ remains from the attack on Mars.


    Dr John Brandenburg is to present his theory in Houston, Texas today. He says an
    ancient Mars civilisation was wiped out by a nuclear bomb. A thin layer of radioactive
    substances including uranium, thorium (shown in graphic) and radioactive potassium on
    the surface supposedly provide evidence for this theoryDr Brandenburg will be
    presenting his theory at the 46th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in Houston,
    Texas at the Town Center Exhibit Area this evening.If you missed the story first time
    around, be mindful that there’s quite a lot to take in.He says that ancient Martians
    known as Cydonians and Utopians were wiped out by a nuclear attack from another
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    Although he does not go into much detail about the alien races, he points to a
    number of ‘artifacts’ on the surface that he says are remnants of an intelligent society.

    And he warned we should also be fearful of an attack from this supposedly hostile alien
    race that wiped out the Martians. A thin layer of radioactive substances including
    uranium, thorium and radioactive potassium on the surface provide evidence for this
    theory.And nuclear isotopes in the atmosphere apparently resemble hydrogen bomb
    tests - which he says occurred in two places on Mars, Cydonia Mensa and Galaxias
    Chaos.‘We have now found evidence of the nuclear melt-glass Trinitite (formed on Earth
    at the site of nuclear weapon air-bursts) at both sites of the hypothesised explosions
    and this will be presented at the conference,’ Dr Brandenburg revealed to MailOnline
    ahead of his talk.

    ‘This strongly supports my hypothesis of massive nuclear airbursts.’

    ‘So far no scientist has offered any other explanation for this body of data.’


    Dr Brandenburg will be presenting his theory at the 46th Lunar and Planetary Science
    Conference in Houston, Texas at the Town Center Exhibit Area this evening. Nuclear
    isotopes in the atmosphere apparently resemble hydrogen bomb tests - which he says
    occurred in two places on Mars, Cydonia Mensa and Galaxias Chaos


    Back in 2011 the scientist first postulated that the red colour on Mars (pictured) could
    have been due to a naturally occurring thermonuclear explosion - but now he thinks it
    was caused by an intelligent alien race

    However, at the conference Dr Brandenburg said he would not be talking about his
    belief in the ancient civilisation.

    ‘The earlier result of a nuclear massacre stands,' he said.

    ‘However, for this conference paper I chose to focus on the most important part of the
    hypothesis, the enormous nuclear explosions, which is the most extraordinary new
    evidence of past intelligent activity on Mars.

    ‘My goal is establish the reality of the explosions to the scientific community, and their
    non-natural origin, and then focus on their targets.

    ‘Rest assured the whole hypothesis will be discussed tomorrow. I will be waving around
    copies of my book: Death on Mars.’

    Dr Brandenburg also claims he came up with the hypothesis that Mars was once
    covered in an ocean, which Nasa recently announced.

    ‘This is a fine old blood feud on Mars,’ he added.


    He also says there is no natural explanation for his theory, as they were ‘fast neutron’
    midair explosions of about a billion megatons that turned large areas of Mars into glass.
    Shown is a ground level view of a nuclear device in Nevada, US on 15 April 1955


    Dr Brandenburg also claims he came up with the hypothesis that Mars was once
    covered in an ocean, which Nasa recently announced. The agency said they now had
    evidence that 3.7 billion years ago the planet had more water (shown in illustration)
    than than the Arctic Ocean does today

    On the reaction he is expecting, Dr Brandenburg said: ‘I expect the paper to be
    controversial, with perhaps statements to the effect that "this theory is so ludicrous I
    am not going to comment on its abundant evidences!" by pundits.’

    But he said this would be ‘followed by private conversations by other scientists saying,
    in hushed tones: "Oh my God! Who do you think did it?" and "Do you think they could
    come back here?"

    He also says there is no natural explanation for his theory, as they were ‘fast neutron’
    midair explosions of about a billion megatons that turned large areas of Mars into glass.

    ‘This cannot be asteroid explosions, as that would have created large craters, and as at
    Hiroshima and Nagasaki no craters were created,’ he said.

    ‘This is a weapon's signature.’

    Dr Brandenburg will also be presenting another of his theories at the conference, that
    Mars once has a ‘biologically stabilised greenhouse.’

    He says that the planet once had Earth-like temperatures and atmospheric pressures,
    and was abundant with life and an oxygen-rich atmosphere.

    And he says these would have been ideal conditions for life to form.

    WHO IS DR BRANDENBURG?


    Aside from this outlandish theories, Dr John Brandenburg has led a rather more normal,
    and prestigious, career.He has a PhD in Theoretical Plasma Physics from the University
    of California at Davis.Currently he works as a plasma physicist at Orbital Technologies in
    Madison Wisconsin.He has worked on a variety of propulsion technologies and previously
    was an independent consultant on Space Missile Defense and Directed Energy Weapons.
    Dr Brandenburg has authored a number of books with his latest being Death on Mars:
    The Discovery of a Planetary Nuclear Massacre.



    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz3UmLnLJbr
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    Nuclear War Killed All Life On Mars, Claims Scientist



    Published on 27 Nov 2014

    In a surprising new theory brought forth in a scientific study, a physicist has claimed
    that there was life and civilisation on Mars once upon a time, which was destroyed by a
    massive nuclear attack by aliens.Ancient life in Mars as eradicated by aliens who
    attacked the planet with nuclear bombs, claims Dr, John Brandenburg in a paper.ISRO
    The so called ancient life on Mars was eradicated by the aliens, who were equipped with
    nuclear weapons, Dr. John Brandenburg, a plasma physicist and an expert in propulsion
    technologies, claimed. He further warned that an attack of similar nature and impact
    could also happen on Earth.

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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    Now, we are getting somewhere ... Most of this is conjecture, but at least someone is making considerations in the right direction ...

    If you consider that there is evidence of nuclear-type weapons that have been used in Earth's ancient history, then the paradigm conditionally expands to potentially include use pre-Earth civilization ...

    Ghostrider should be here soon to support the "War on mars" theory I think, as well
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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    ...and there is still life on Mars underground, by accounts of those in the know...

    also on the moon and also underground on Earth.....
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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    If you look at the surface of Mars, and think massive space based energy weapons, you can easily put together the kill shots.

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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    The other bit, is that the most advanced weapons don't require radioactive materials and don't leave a radiation signature.

    Trying to build weapons that DO leave a radiation signature, would be a step backward from that advanced standpoint and serve no purpose except to complicate the build.

    Radioactive based weapons are so....20th century.

    However, I do indeed salute the idea of looking at mars as if it has suffered some major catastrophe.

    The earth shows similar signs, but the environment is one that wears things down, and in that, covers up evidence.

    Which reminds me, ISIS, ie, CIA, is destroying evidential and 'record' sites, like Mesopotamian ruins.
    Interdimensional Civil Servant

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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    the lust for power and control incarnated on Mars , and yes there was war , the asteroid belt is the remains of a planet that was destroyed in the war ... the people on Mars fled to Earth ... our forefathers were transplanted Martians who were actually old Lyrians from another space-time in the constellation Lyra and Vega ... the plejaren say as well that Mars lost it's atmosphere due to cosmic forces , that along with escaping the War brought ET's to Earth ... they say , 50,000 years ago a leader along with 200 scientist and 70,000 humans fled from Lyra in a spaceship they took by force and came to settle on Mars , Earth and Malona ... the war followed them , they had hoped that being on the outer rim of a remote galaxy , the negative group would not find them but , they did = the evil Syrian-Creator overlords ( the ones responsible for religion on Earth ) ... people wonder why ET's buzz our nuclear sites , they are trying to keep us from making the same mistakes they did long ago ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    re: OP.
    Simon Parkes said the same thing, that Mars lost 80% of it's atmosphere and nearly all it's surface water in a massive explosion - an attack from Pleiadians(sp?) that was overpowered. Pretty sure he also claimed quite a lot of that water ended up here on Earth though he never elaborated and nobody, at that time, asked.

    It's just struck me, though I have no idea of the timescales involved. Martian oceans turn to ice in space and hurtle towards Earth, boom, dinosaurs gone. Pleiadians high five and say 'double score!'
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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    No Mars wasn't attacked by nuclear weapons, humbug and twaddle

    Nor were there any race wars or interplanetary conflict either, no evidence exists to support that hypothesis except the murmurings of a secular group.

    David Talbot, and others, have hypothesised that "the inner planets" were themselves subject to massive cosmic electrical discharges as a result of the collapse of the gravitational field and "sun status" of Saturn several thousand years ago. If this is not being considered by Dr John Brandenburg then his research is virtually useless.

    These massive plasma discharges are beyond the comprehension of our imaginations as the change in electrical field intensity associated with them can change the basis of what we know as matter itself.

    @ghostrider and supporters - you do mankind a disservice by your imagineering and driven spectacle of mischievance, in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    I am a bit curious what that remote viewing study may tell; sounds like an interesting project ... I guess we'll have to wait for that one.
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    Aliens Nuked Mars



    Published on 2 Dec 2014


    New findings suggest that an ancient civilization on Mars was wiped
    out by aliens whom destroyed the planet with nuclear bombs.

    In a recent paper published in the journal of cosmology, Dr John
    Bradenburg summarized findings that indicated not only was there
    life on Mars...but someone wiped it out with massive nuclear explosions

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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    Quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan

    At the height of the Cold War, Sagan became involved in public awareness efforts for the effects of nuclear war when a 1982 mathematical climate model, titled "Twilight at Noon" suggested that a substantial nuclear exchange could trigger a nuclear twilight and upset the delicate balance of life on Earth by cooling the surface. In 1983 he was one of five authors—the "S"—in the follow-up "TTAPS" report, as the research paper came to be known, which contained the term "nuclear winter" for the first time, a term coined by his colleague Richard P. Turco.[34][35] In 1984 he co-authored the book The Cold and the Dark: The World after Nuclear War and in 1990 he co-authored the book A Path Where No Man Thought: Nuclear Winter and the End of the Arms Race, which explains the nuclear winter hypothesis and with that advocates nuclear disarmament.
    you might also enjoy this: not sure though: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post913158









    pps. why do folks say alien/martian insteadda people

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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    The funniest thing is that most people don't realize that they once used to be Martians...
    Can we break the cycle of destruction?

    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Quote The funniest thing is that most people don't realize that they once used to be Martians...
    Can we break the cycle of destruction?
    Well that documentary will be interesting....and we are
    all made from 'Star Dust ' so why not come from Mars ..LOL



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    Did NASA’s Mars rover just find proof of alien life?



    Published on 17 Dec 2014


    NASA’s “Curiosity” rover on Mars has found potential evidence of former life
    on the red planet. The spacecraft has sent data back to Earth indicating large
    methane spikes, leading some to believe they are close to finding long-awaited
    Martian life. RT’s Lindsay France details the findings.

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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    Why would a NASA video provided to RT show at 3min07, 2 astronauts sampling the Martian soil????? This is a false video, recreating what?

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    Quote Why would a NASA video provided to RT show at 3min07, 2 astronauts
    sampling the Martian soil????? This is a false video, recreating what?
    That bit was not real just animation , the news was the finding of the frozen
    organic ocean and spikes and drops of methane , speculating ancient life or
    the possibility of life microbial underground. There were a few headlines
    about it last year , and its is still speculation according to some scientists.


    Alien Life on Mars? NASA Rover Spots Methane, a Possible ...

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...space-science/

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    There just might be life on Mars....Nasa Curiosity rover picks up mysterious
    methane 'burps' that could possibly be coming from alien organisms

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sc...s-9929510.html

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    Life on Mars: NASA Finds New Evidence



    Published on 28 Jan 2014


    New data from NASA's Opportunity rover confirms that Mars had sustained water
    and the right conditions to host life. WSJ's Monika Vosough reports. (Photo: NASA/JPL/Caltech/Cornell Univ./Arizona State Univ.)
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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    A similar article....................


    Why Is There Such A Martian Cover-Up?

    Wednesday 15th April 2015 at 10:04 By David Icke





    ‘I find their recent work on the Cydonia ruins on Mars to be very intriguing,
    with their description of an advanced, human civilization in the remote past,
    including underground tunnels, high-speed shuttle trains and large, architectural
    constructions, all of which was destroyed by planetary cataclysm a very long
    time ago. Indeed, there are photos that have come back from Mars that clearly
    depict very large, heavily eroded, ancient ruins.

    Look at the obvious, rectangular, heavily eroded structure in the top of the photo
    here, that is canted to the side. NASA has a great deal of photographic evidence
    of ancient, eroded structures on Mars. This is one small part of that evidence.

    Other evidence from Mars suggests an ancient nuclear conflict that was so damaging
    that it rendered the planet uninhabitable by humans and put an end to the Martian
    civilization. In the main I accept that something very much along those lines has occurred.’



    The ancient ocean on Mars





    Read more: Why Is There Such A Martian Cover-Up?

    http://eventhorizonchronicle.blogspo...-cover-up.html
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    Default Re: Were Martians Nuked ? Physicist Dr John Brandenburg presents his theory at NASA conference

    THE FAR SIGHT INSTITUTE.......


    Remote Viewing Cydonia, Mars

    Project Release Date: 15 March 2015

    According to remote-viewing data collected at The Farsight
    Institute, this documentary resolves the issue of the so-called
    “Face on Mars.” We now know that this anomaly was actually
    a city where Martians lived. They were more like us on Earth
    than most would imagine.

    Combining two of the most skilled remote viewers on the planet
    currently, using U.S. military derived methodologies for perceiving
    across time and space, and working within a scientifically clean and
    totally blind experimental design, we now have new eyewitness
    reports that describe how Martians lived, and how they died. New
    results based on a bedrock of verifiable data tell the story that has
    been hidden from us for too long.

    The science of remote viewing has matured to the extent that such
    a project as this is finally achievable. But no one could have expected
    the results to be as shocking as what was actually revealed by these
    new data. We need to study the Martians, especially if we wish to
    their mistakes and become a civilization with a better destiny.

    Official Trailer

    Remote Viewing Cydonia, Mars - Trailer



    http://farsight.org/FarsightPress/Cy...main_page.html

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    Remote Viewing the Aliens (Part 1): Cydonia, Mars




    Published on 3 Mar 2015


    This is the fourth trailer for our upcoming project, Remote Viewing the Aliens (Part
    1): Cydonia, Mars. This trailer features Daz Smith, and he explains a bit about how
    we used green screens for this project to add an extra element to the remote-
    viewing process.

    ===================================================

    for Remote Viewing the Aliens (Part 1): Cydonia, Mars



    Published on 6 Mar 2015


    This is the 5th trailer for our upcoming project, Remote Viewing the Aliens (Part 1):
    Cydonia, Mars. This trailer features Dick Allgire talking about his experience remote
    viewing for this project.
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    Courtney Brown - Remote Viewing Cydonia, Mars: Part One





    Courtney Brown - Remote Viewing Cydonia, Mars: Part Two



    Published on 16 Apr 2015


    Courtney Brown discusses The Farsight Institute’s latest project Remote Viewing
    Cydonia, Mars. The data collected during the project suggests that long ago, a
    civilization existed on Mars. This civilization built something in a place now known
    as Cydonia. Many on Earth speculated that it appeared to be a ‘face’ looking
    upward, but it’s something else. The Farsight project suggests that it was a place
    where people congregated and lived; a city of Martians who were more like us on
    Earth than most would imagine.

    Combining two of the most skilled remote viewers currently on the planet, using
    U.S. military derived methodologies for perceiving across time and space, and
    working within a scientifically clean and totally blind experimental design, the
    Farsight project describes how Martians lived, and how they died. The science of
    remote viewing has matured to the extent that a project such as this has finally
    been achievable, but no one could have expected the results to be as shocking as
    what was actually revealed by the new data. And there are lessons here that our
    own civilization can learn should we wish to avoid the terrible fate that befell the
    denizens of Mars.

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