Where Did the Planes Go? (Rebekah Roth exposes another piece of the 9/11 puzzle)

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Slorri (here)
It appeared like she did not know of either flight 93 nor any hijackers. And for what I understand none of the 4 planes were anywhere near to Camp David; But it would be in the direct path of Flight 93, continuing over Shanksville, and going down towards south-east.
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Should be surprising to me if these guys could make the decision to shoot down a passenger plane, without consulting air traffic controllers and the military first, and they might have known about the games.

If they did not know of any war games or hijackers, then the decision to shoot down a passenger plane, just because it flew close to Camp David, is absurd. A golf course in the woods.

Posted by Slorri (here)
I think that Mineta's story kind of fits in with this one. A mix up of the pentagon plane and Flight 93 perhaps.

My current guess, in good part from Rebekah Roth's work, is that both the well known flight paths for the four flights (that you posted above), and Norman Mineta's testimony, are so far removed from reality as to be about as useful to understanding 9/11 as studies of the Easter Bunny would be to understanding the real historical meaning of Christmas.

It doesn't surprise me that the "Elizabeth Nelson", who Bill heard speak, witnessed military officers discussing and ordering a shoot-down (and doing so in genuine sincerity.) But I have no way of knowing what was painting on the radar screens that those officers were dealing with, and no way of knowing if there even was a real "flying hunk of metal" in the sky that was being painted, much less what any such flying hunk of metal might have actually been.

Apparently, the "real" 9/11 planes didn't fly anywhere close to the claimed paths, there were false targets being painted on both FAA (civilian) and Norad (military) radar, and real targets being hidden, again on both radar systems.

[Slorri]

What's in the Methodical Illusion?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=35izrnuE1TA

We ask best selling author Rebekah Roth why we should read the Methodical Illusion.

[ThePythonicCow]

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Henrik Palmgren's Red Ice Radio interview of Rebekah Roth is now public on Youtube:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4VadAXNacNA

The Youtube page description for this interview:

Rebekah Roth enjoyed a thirty year airline career working as both a flight attendant and an international purser. She was trained as an emergency medical technician and served as a volunteer firefighter. Her expertise and training as a flight attendant allowed her to research the events of September 11, 2001 with an insider's knowledge, and eventually lead her to discover details and answers to some of the most haunting questions surrounding that infamous day in our history.

Rebekah is with us speak about her book, Methodical Illusion, which is the culmination of her extensive research and personal knowledge of in-flight procedures and FAA hijacking protocols.

In the first segment, we learn about Rebekah's inspiration for writing the book and her process of waking up from the spell of cognitive dissonance that prevented her from wanting to take a closer look into the official story. Rebekah talks about the red flags that were present from day one, and the many anomalies that showed the orchestrators of destruction of the Twin Towers did not consult with an actual flight attendant. We discuss the mysteries of Buildings 4, 6 and 7, and the trillions of dollars that were erased with their eradication. Then, Rebekah breaks down several big key elements of the phone calls of 9/11, and how these staged recorded conversations sealed the deal for the military industrial complex to launch the War on Terror, creating the "New Pearl Harbor" that would lead to 7 Middle Eastern wars.

In the members' hour, we look at the psychological warfare and brainwashing techniques used in creating a Hegelian dialectic, along with the conspired solutions to big problems that fattened the wallets of insider corporations. Rebekah gives details of the shadow government in control of everything from radar to national security, the IRS, and the health care industry. Later, Rebekah tells us how she pieced together the paths of the disappearing planes and the manipulated illusions that were created to explain away the impossible crashes. At the end, we discuss media spokespeople, with ties to Zionist circles, the funding behind technology and Israeli intelligence.

[Cidersomerset]

Rebekah says near the start of her interviews that during early research for her
novel, she came across an article about some of the ' hijackers' were still alive and
well. I have seen the article on the web so I just thought I'd have a recap and
checked the BBC web site. There are three articles on the link ( below) that I could
see and I thought it worth the effort of copying it out as its one of the sparks that
set off her efforts to expose this case. I know you can click a link ,but I find having
it in front of me makes me look........

Hijack 'suspects' alive and well

http://www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=Hijack...e%20and%20well
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Sunday, 23 September, 2001, 12:30 GMT 13:30 UK
Hijack 'suspects' alive and well


Waleed Al Shehri
A man called Waleed Al Shehri says he left the US a year ago

Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on
Washington and New York has turned up alive and well. The identities of four of the
19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt. Saudi
Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had
deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11
September. His photograph was released, and has since appeared in newspapers
and on television around the world.

Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco.

He told journalists there that he had nothing to do with the attacks on New York
and Washington, and had been in Morocco when they happened. He has contacted
both the Saudi and American authorities, according to Saudi press reports.

He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the
United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been
referring. But, he says, he left the United States in September last year, became
a pilot with Saudi Arabian airlines and is currently on a further training course in Morocco.

Mistaken identity

Abdulaziz Al Omari, another of the Flight 11 hijack suspects, has also
been quoted in Arab news reports.


Abdelaziz Al Omari 'lost his passport in Denver'

He says he is an engineer with Saudi Telecoms, and that he lost his passport while
studying in Denver. Another man with exactly the same name surfaced on the
pages of the English-language Arab News. The second Abdulaziz Al Omari is a pilot
for Saudi Arabian Airlines, the report says. Meanwhile, Asharq Al Awsat newspaper,
a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi.


Khalid Al-Midhar may also be alive

He was listed by the FBI as a hijacker in the United flight that crashed in
Pennsylvania. And there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar,
may also be alive.

FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged on Thursday that the identity of
several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt.

Hijacking suspects

Flight 175: Marwan Al-Shehhi, Fayez Ahmed, Mohald Alshehri, Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi

Flight 11: Waleed M Alshehri, Wail Alshehri, Mohamed Atta, Abdulaziz Alomari and Satam Al Suqami

Flight 77: Khalid Al-Midhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Hani Hanjour

Flight 93: Ahmed Alhaznawi, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrahi and Saeed Alghamdi

Published Date TagsNews|Middle East

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1559151.stm

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BBC...............

Published Date 22 Sep 2001

Hijack 'suspect' alive in Morocco

By David Bamford in Rabat
A Saudi-Arabian aircraft pilot who was named as one of five suspects on board one
of the planes that crashed into the World Trade Centre, has turned up alive and
well in Morocco. The man, Waleed Al-Shehri, has told Saudi journalists in
Casablanca that he had nothing to do with the attacks on
New York and Washington, and had been in Morocco at the time.


READ MORE........http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1558669.stm


…Saturday, 22 September, 2001, 20:41 GMT 21:41 UK Hijack 'suspect' alive in
Morocco An airport security video shows two of the alleged hijackers By David
Bamford in Rabat… A Saudi-Arabian aircraft pilot…

Published Date TagsNews|Middle East

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1558669.stm

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BBC...............

21 Sep 2001

FBI probes hijackers' identities


An airport security video showed two of the alleged hijackers

The FBI has said that the identities of some of its list of 19 hijackers behind last
week's devastating attacks are in doubt.


READ MORE..........http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1553754.stm

…'s North Tower. But the Saudis say Mr al-Omari is alive and well and working as
an electrical engineer. He says his passport was stolen in Denver, Colorado, in
1995. Saudi …

Published Date TagsNews|Americas

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1553754.stm

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=Hijack...e%20and%20well

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BBC Reports Some 9/11 Hijackers Alive

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dbgjzYYXjqw

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Original Hijacking suspects



Hijacking suspects

Flight 175: Marwan Al-Shehhi, Fayez Ahmed, Mohald Alshehri, Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi

Flight 11: Waleed M Alshehri, Wail Alshehri, Mohamed Atta, Abdulaziz Alomari and Satam Al Suqami

Flight 77: Khalid Al-Midhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Hani Hanjour

Flight 93: Ahmed Alhaznawi, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrahi and Saeed Alghamdi

[Cidersomerset]

Henrik Palmgren's Red Ice Radio interview of Rebekah Roth is now public on Youtube:

I'm approx 41 mins and they are talking about various related subjects as they are going
along and they are talking about remote control devices enabling the plane to be taken
over, which is a well known theory and Rebekah is well and truly down the rabbit hole.
She mention MH 170 and how it would of had just enough fuel to get to Diago Garcia
which houses a joint US/UK drone base , another good interview I think she is having
an alternate media blast obviously to sell her book . But also to get the genuine info
out and as she says she is not alone which is good.


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This is another good interview which is conducted on Skype
on a lovely clear link .......


Global Freedom Movement talks to Rebekah Roth - 01 March 2015

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9l-rG0ZeNFI

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
This is another good interview which is conducted on Skype on a lovely clear link .......

Excellent interview - perhaps the best yet.

[Cidersomerset]

Its interesting that although the basic story and observations
are the same, the interviews do bring up variations and they
are not boring,considering how much some of us have heard
this. Its seems to be recent by the date and the interviewer
has put up illustrations you can follow or ignore depending
on your preference.....

I posted these vids for ref and they were on the link I was on
so its up to you if you listen to them or not......
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Rebekah Roth 9/11 NEW INFORMATION

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IG7ZPzBIdFk

Published on 26 Mar 2015

Steve Johnson from Stopfundingisrael speaks to Author of the book Methodical Illusion:
Rebekah Roth and takes questions from the audience, while they talk on bbsradio.
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Her website is: http://methodicalillusion.com

To buy her book: http://www.amazon.com/Methodical-Illu...

To check out my material: http://terraformingearth.net
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The Power Hour - 911-Rebekah Roth

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KL7SJYk4hig

Published on 21 Mar 2015
The Power Hour - 911-Rebekah Roth


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This is the first interview that has negative comments in the review below
which will be interesting to compare..............



Rebekah Roth's Methodical Illusion

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iIMgvCWnOb0

Published on 6 Mar 2015


Pam and David interview Rebekah Roth, a woman who claims a 30 year history as
an international flight attendant and airline purser, however, she has not as yet
revealed anything specific about her background or history as such. Roth, a
newcomer to the 9/11 truth scene, is sharply critical of one of the fathers of the
movement, Dr. David Ray Griffin whose exhaustive research has produced works
such a the groundbreaking book The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About
the Bush Administration and 9/11, now a classic in the genre. Roth has reduced
Griffin's years of contribution and sacrifice, on the long road of truth, to words such
as "nonsense" and "silliness", lumping Griffin's extensive research into one lump
assessment in her effort to debunk any and all possibility for the use of voice
morphing technologies having been used on the day of 9/11. Although both voice
and video morphing technologies were highly advanced military technologies during
the time of 9/11, Roth bristles at the thought and even threatened to leave the
show as we pressed for more answers.

Roth is big on criticism, yet can she, herself, take the heat? We had numerous fair
and valid questions for Roth, but we'll leave it up to you, the listener, to decide on
the verity of her responses.

[Cidersomerset]

This looks like one of her earliest interviews about her book.....


Methodical Illusion Series w/Rebekah Roth Pt.1

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yii0XczKuKQ

Published on 20 Nov 2014


Part 1 of our 5 part radio series with author Rebekah Roth. Her book
Methodical Illusion could possibly be one of the most controversial
books when it comes to 9/11.


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Wake Up To The Truth on MBC TV Ep # 3 with Rebekah Roth

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kSIB7K6DEsc

Published on 10 Dec 2014

[Cidersomerset]

I think these are the last ones on the links for now , I don't think I have duplicated
any from earlier in the thread ? I did look as I was going. The other thing is you
don't obviously have to listen to all of these interviews , it just a choice and up
to you.

Rebekah is religious and has referenced it a few times , and she did a interview on
a religious webcast for those interested..........

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Tribulation-Now, 22nd Feb 2015 - Deceptions Behind the 911 Event with Rebekah Roth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYAaFqQnrEs

Published on 26 Feb 2015


Methodical Illusion, Deceptions Behind the 911 Event with Rebekah Roth

Join Kenneth, John and Cathy in the chat room while they discuss the empirical
events across the world leading up to World War III, the trickery and deceit of the
New World Order, and the bizarre weirdness of the fallen angelic UFO phenomenon
as we plunge head first into the forthcoming apocalypse and the Seven Seals of Revelation (chapter 6).

Tonight we are blessed to have Rebekah Roth, author of the amazing
book "Methodical Illusion". Rebekah was an international flight attendant during the
911 event and immediately saw unreal inconsistencies in the story being told by
media about what happened with the planes.

Tonight she will share her revelations in regard to these deceptions and introduce a
number of troubling realities that must make us take a second look at our
understanding.

God Bless You - See You There!

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Rebekah Roth: Methodical Illusion-Missing Pieces of 9-11

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=O88reBqnmE4

Published on 22 Feb 2015


Source:
http://radio.offplanetmedia.net/2015/...

OffPlanet Radio LIVE - 02-13-2015 - Randy Maugans with Rebekah Roth recorded 02-13-2014
http://www.methodicalillusion.com

We are joined by Rebekah Roth, a former flight attendant and airline industry insider. Using
her intimate knowledge of the airline industry's protocols, procedures, and technology, has
uncovered amazing details of what happened on September 11, 2001.

Beginning with uncovering the fact that 7 of the alleged hijackers aboard United flight 11 are
still alive! That alleged hijackers had sued to have their names restored; that one hijacker
was already dead...that the original narrative of "terrorists with box cutters" withered under
scrutiny of the details surrounding a mysterious passenger who turns out to be a Mossad assasin.

She discloses her research on:

What actually hit the World Trade buildings 1 and 2
The strange details of the missile that hit the Pentagon
What actually occurred over Shanksville, PA
The inconsistencies of phone calls allegedly made by flight attendants from flight 11; where
the calls were actually were made from, and why stories did not match.
Why Todd Beamer and his group onboard flight 93 could NOT have been initiating their plans
to take back the alleged plane over Shanksville, the famous "Let's roll" drama...
Where the planes and passengers were taken, and their actual fates.
The connections between Israeli contractors, the Pentagon, and highly placed officials in the
airlines and FAA.
The technology that allowed the planes to appear and disappear off FAA radar, and the
technology that likely guided projectiles into the WTC buildings...and much more.
Related link: At Least 7 of the 9/11 Hijackers are Still Alive
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTI...

Methodical-IllusionRebekah shares an immense amount of data and experiential/anecdotal
facts in her interviews, but the data can also found in detail in here book---a work of "fiction"
that contains more truth than the so-called media have ever reported.

"Methodical Illusion" is available here.


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The Ochelli Effect with Chuck Ochelli, guest Rebekah Roth discussing 9/11 perspective 3-21-2015

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mtua94S5Um4

Published on 21 Mar 2015


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[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
This is the first interview that has negative comments in the review below
which will be interesting to compare..............

I suspect that if Rebekah Roth had done a search for David Meiswinkle before the interview with him, she might have declined the interview. On the other hand, I can see what Rebekah means by not letting passengers control an emergency situation ... she did not let Meiswinkle derail her message. She's smart and tough.

Regarding the particular topic of voice morphing technology, yes, it did exist then. So one might actually ask, which would be used, in that case, and which better fits the evidence. If I had had a prepared speech to deliver in the voice of someone else, I might prefer the voice morphing technology, so that I could be sure the exact words I intended were spoken. But if I planned for someone to be speaking for 10 or 20 minutes with a spouse or other close associate, I'd want the actual person there, as there is more to faking someone else than getting their voice frequencies correct. There are all sorts of little details in how people interact, the choice and timing and hesitations and so forth, much of which cannot, even now, be fluidly handled by automated voice morphing technology. The actual evidence, as gone over carefully by Rebekah, much better fits the hypothesis that the actual flight attendants and passengers were used to make the calls.

So ... in short ... rather than ridicule either hypothesis (actual people told what to say, or voice morphing), one should actually look at and listen to the evidence and see which fits. Though I agree, presented with a hostile interviewer, David Meiswinkle, Rebekah did the right thing by taking control of the situation ... then was not the time for a leisurely weighing of the alternatives.

Rebekah Roth's version fits.

[Cidersomerset]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=iIMgvCWnOb0

So ... in short ... rather than ridicule either hypothesis (actual people told what to say, or voice morphing), one should actually look at and listen to the evidence and see which fits. Though I agree, presented with a hostile interviewer, David Meiswinkle, Rebekah did the right thing by taking control of the situation ... then was not the time for a leisurely weighing of the alternatives.

Rebekah Roth's version fits.

Yeah she points out what the protocol should of been carried out by the flight
attendants , the mace or perfume ( example )would of effected the pilots crew and
passengers and other points she has researched like the drills and war games going
on which might have been used to confuse and coarse the crews to co operate..
The presenters were not happy that she answered the David Griffin question by
answering it in her own professional way. Hence the criticism and the presenters
wanted to distance themselves from Rebekahs view about him by the looks of it,
but they do not disagree with a lot of her theories and commend her for her work.

I know you do not want to deviate to much off Rebekahs themes as there are many
other versions, but I keep hearing her references which we recognise , but people
looking in may not . So I have linked a few threads about some the themes she is
talking about. Much of which ties into the meme many researchers have and are
finding out about 9/11. ( there are many other threads by other members , with
more expertise on individual topics )......

At the start of the vid after listening to some of the voice tapes they start talking
about Kurt........and she explains briefly about his case.

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Kurt Sonnenfeld Official FEMA Video Cameraman at Ground Zero on 9/11...Now political refugee in Argentina

Kurt Sonnenfeld was a photographer who's firm were a contractor for FEMA among
other agencies and on 9/11 was assigned to go to the disaster site and film footage
for the official record. I had not heard his story before ,these vids tells his
circumstances and how he thinks 9/11 was an inside job. He has 25 hrs of footage
taken on the Trade Centre site , which the government are trying to get back. He
says he will give it up to a proper investigation into the disaster.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-in-Argentina

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The Odigo Warnings & the 4,000 Israelis Saved on 9-11

new Wednesday 1st April 2015 at 07:51 By David Icke

http://bollyn.com/#article_15053


Re: Christopher Bollyn 2015: ‘Solving 911 Ends the War’ // Bibi 's Back !! There is a connection...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...489#post948489

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WTC 9/11 Building 7 – Clearly Detonated – See Footage of Explosions

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-of-Explosions

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Field McConnell - Boeing Uninterruptible Auto Pilot Used On 9/11 Planes,
Impossible To Hijack! // Corbett Report · Field McConnell · Abel Danger


A couple of interviews with some interesting views on 9/11 and other aviation related
material from a former veteran pilot. The second interview rambles a bit as James
lets field talk he mentions this vid about the auto pilot in the wake of MH370
disappearing which Field suggests landed in Diego Garcia and much more.....

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...---Abel-Danger

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Thread: Dr Judy Wood - Several good interviews in early 2013

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ers#post655782

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9/11 Firefighter Blows WTC 7 Cover-Up Wide Open

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Gage-Interview

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On todays headline page , another theme mentioned in Rebekahs
interviews , that we obviously know here is that many mainstream
top reporters are intel operatives or controlled and embellish ,spin
or lie some stories and in some cases their own achievements.

Bill O’Reilly’s Cameraman Shreds The Last Threads Of His Falklands Lies
new Wednesday 1st April 2015 at 07:34 By David Icke

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/03/bi...an-shreds-last

[Cidersomerset]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9l-rG0ZeNFI

Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
This is another good interview which is conducted on Skype on a lovely clear link .......
Excellent interview - perhaps the best yet.

Thanks Paul.....

I agree this is very good , the hosts sit back and listen intently as you can watch.
They are taking it all in ,which enables Rebekah to go right thru her theory
without interruptions. In some of the other vids the communication is not as clear
and the hosts want to interrupt to ask questions. Which is fair enough a good show
should have a balance of info and Q&A. There is a gap where Rebekah gets cut off
and as they try to get her back they go over what has been said so far and reflects
it with what they know of 9/11. This tells us they are not novices which it looked
like in the first hour as they listened politely and with great interest.

But in this case and the subject matter, which the hosts say at the beginning of the
interview that they had not covered yet , it works very well imo and as you say.
Rebekah is very consistent in each interview I've heard/watched so far and explains
how it was possible to control the planes involved on the day of 9/11 quite
convincingly and is a big piece of the puzzle of the day , given more clarity.

Is her theory right ? I obviously cannot say categorically, but it makes more sense
than some of what we have heard before I think, and certainly compliments the
bigger picture and fits well and explains how the aircraft passengers were controlled
by making them think they were part of drills or something similar . With the war
games brought forward form October and a lots of other details , certainly rules out
Bin Laden having much to do with this 9/11 psyops other than playing the patsy.
Which many of us thought from lots of other sources and researchers.

[meat suit]

I havent had any time to listen to any of the interviews, so pardon if its been covered... but ,has it been considered that the planes were maybe not fully fuelled up... so they could have landed on shorter runways too?? I mean.. the whole thing was a setup anyway...

[Rex]

Just about done with her book, it's really pretty incredible... Going into this I didn't think there could be any more major 9/11 revelations, but man I was wrong. IMHO this "novel" covers some big junks of the puzzle. No matter what you believe happened that day, it will make you go back and see how/if this new info fits. At the very least it will remind you just how insidious and determined these folks are.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by meat suit (here)
I havent had any time to listen to any of the interviews, so pardon if its been covered... but ,has it been considered that the planes were maybe not fully fuelled up... so they could have landed on shorter runways too?? I mean.. the whole thing was a setup anyway...

I have not heard that considered.

However, if Rebekah is right, that the planes took off as scheduled, only to land soon thereafter, before the cell phone calls were made from the ground, then whatever runway they landed on must have been close to Logan airport (Boston), because there is only about 20 minutes elapsed time from when American Airlines Flight 11's took off to when the first calls were made from crew on that flight.

Using a long runway, which the military had close to Logan and which they could shut down for a few days, enabled them to lift off from Logan with a normal fuel load for the scheduled flight to Los Angeles. Doing this reduced the number of people who might have noticed something out of place, before the calls were made. The pilots and various airport handlers would have noticed if the fuel load was too light for the scheduled flight.

The focus, all along was on the midair hijackings. The combination of the Flight Termination System and the Promis software in both FAA (civilian) and NORAD (military) traffic control enabled them to take complete control of flights in air, without prior notice, and send the plane one way, while what painted on civilian and military radars showed a flight path somewhere else, with the pilots isolated from all subsequent communication, even with their own crew.

Everything proceeded as close to normal as practical, up to the moment that control of the planes, in-flight, was taken over.

[East Sun]

I finished reading Rebekah' book a few days ago. I'm so glad that she wrote it as only someone in her position could. Unlike the JFK coverup this is in our time and times have changed. Hope she is well protected because fiction or not its as plain as daylight and it all happened in broad daylight. If that kind of thing is pulled again we, the people, will not be duped so easily.

This may be the beginning of a new era.

[meat suit]

thanks Paul,
just to throw this in...
stuart airforce base at 12.20 in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_fp5kaVYhk is mentioned as the place both planes crossed. I cant find the bit where he tells this story about the 2 replacement planes that took off from there to crash into the twin towers...maybe a differrent vid by alienscientist...

[awakeningmom]

Roth presents some really fascinating material and adds useful pieces to the puzzle, and for that I am grateful. However, she may need to tone down her belief that she's the only one who has gotten the whole picture right. In the "negative" interview with Quantum Matrix Radio (post #47), Rebekah is very dismissive about David Ray Griffin, and not just about his "voice morphing" hypothesis. Instead, she basically dismisses him as a misinformed "theologian." In my opinion (and for me personally), David Ray Griffin woke a lot of people up, and his soft-spoken, intelligent manner allowed people who would not ordinarily consider "conspiracy theories" about 911 to do so. So what if he didn't get everything right. Has anyone? This was a well-planned psy-op with so many layers of disinformation that I doubt even Roth has more than 50% of the story correct, which is probably why she hasn't been suicided yet. I also don't think Griffin was particularly insistent about the voice morphing -- it seemed like a theory he presented as a possibility, but one he could readily discard if other more persuasive information became available. So if Roth's problems with Griffin run any further than that, I'd really like to know what they are.

Also, would like to know more about this Mitre company she's referencing. That piece is new to me. Guess I'll have to go read the book now!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by awakeningmom (here)
Roth presents some really fascinating material and adds useful pieces to the puzzle, and for that I am grateful. However, she may need to tone down her belief that she's the only one who has gotten the whole picture right.

Rebekah is, by temperament, a "take charge" sort of person. That's how she ended up as a volunteer fireman, and then crew chief (purser) on flight attendant crews, who train to take charge of passengers in both routine and emergency situations.

She brings expert awareness of how things are run on commercial passenger flights, thousands of hours of research into 9/11, and a strong analytical mind.

In short, yes, a controlling temperament ... but also just the qualities and focus that were needed, at this time, to unravel another key puzzle of 9/11. It's a tradeoff I will happily accept, but I appreciate that that is just my personal view.

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P.S. Another key aspect of Rebekah - she does have a sense of humor of her own human limitations and of her evolving views of 9/11 over time. When she figures her current view is right, and that it's important to be crystal clear what she's saying, she is unflinching in her presentation. But I don't think that means she has gotten stuck in her long standing views and understanding ... far from it.

[HaveBlue]

Field McConnell said Rebecca is more interested in selling books than finding truth about 911. It's a hot topic over at AD. I will ask Field to elaborate the next chance I get during his and David Hawkins Livestream shows.