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    Default Building your own Vimana/Anti-gravity UFO for a few hundred $

    Yo..just a note... on one of the essential ingredients for building anti-gravity craft. An essential one which was previously unavailable. Too expensive, too unreliable, difficult to apply, difficult to find.

    That has changed.

    The number I heard, IIRC, was that a RPM of about 50k was required on a spinning high mass fluid, in order to build up a gradient in the gravitational fields, for a Vimana to take off from the surface.

    Well, now you can get ultra reliable 50k+ rpm 1600 watt/2hp motors for about $50.

    Those are the DYSON vacuum cleaner motors that are all over eBay.

    The latest motor is 1600 watts, or just over 2 horsepower ..and runs at a stable 110,000 rpm!!!

    It took Dyson 15 years to get there. This motor is about $50-60US, NEW, on eBay.

    Now you can find a way to...... put them in space.

    The critical stuff is now easy to get a hold of, so get at it....the requisite motor/engine is now out there in the 100's of thousands of examples... so figure out how to apply it.

    PS: Since aetheric conditions of spin/mass will be occurring at these high speeds, the motor will also be applicable in over-unity experiments and similar efforts.
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    Default Re: Building your own Vimana/Anti-gravity UFO for a few hundred $

    Dam Id love to build one. That would be awesome just to go outside of our planet and look back at the world........Oh man that would be cool.

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    Well it would be more of a tiny drone space shot, but she'd scoot straight up like a shotgun blast. Straight out into space. poof! gone........

    More fun than the rocket club at age 10. (etc)
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    Default Re: Building your own Vimana/Anti-gravity UFO for a few hundred $

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    Well it would be more of a tiny drone space shot, but she'd scoot straight up like a shotgun blast. Straight out into space. poof! gone........

    More fun than the rocket club at age 10. (etc)
    Got plans? Blueprints? General concepts?
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time
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    I remember some years ago there were blueprints circulating on the Net for building your own UFO/Vimana.
    I think I copied and saved them, but don't remember where now.
    This may be it:
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...onaliens05.htm
    I have no idea if any of these are legit, but if you search youtube and google for "build your own UFO/ vimana" or "blueprints, UFO/vimana" you will find quite a few links.
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    There are different types of Vimana.
    Quote "saucershaped of generally trapezoidal cross-section with three hemispherical engine pods on the underside."
    "They use a mechanical antigravity device driven by engines developing approximately 80,000 horse power."
    Mechanical antigravity / Intertial drive / Reactionless drive

    Quote "Strong and durable must the body of the Vimana be made, like a great flying bird of light material. Inside one must put the mercury engine with its iron heating apparatus underneath. By means of the power latent in the mercury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky. The movements of the Vimana are such that it can vertically ascend, vertically descend, move slanting forwards and backwards. With the help of the machines human beings can fly in the air and heavenly beings can come down to earth."
    The mercury could be used in a liquid metal cooled reactor that drives a rotor like a chopper or a propeller like in a jet.

    Quote Their method of propulsion, she said, was "anti-gravitational" and was based upon a system analogous to that of "laghima," the unknown power of the ego existing in man’s physiological makeup, "a centrifugal force strong enough to counteract all gravitational pull."
    According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima", "the cap of invisibility" and "garima", "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."
    This is the most interesting one.
    centrifugal force = rotation particle/atoms?
    Analog to Mechanical Inertial Drive but nano scale, so not truly antigravity but acceleration?
    levitate/mountain of lead = Maybe some metamaterial that in itself or when charged seems to become lighter than air. Maybe two sides of the object? Positive up->levitate and rise, positive down->mountain of lead.
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    I remember reading about a man in England who built his own personal ufo crafts. I believe somebody had posted it on the forum. I watched it and it was amazing. Id have to dig to find it. I also remember seeing basic plans to build one. Heck we could just build the Millennium Falcon. I'm sure we could find supporters who have the funds who would want to build this ship. Would be a group project for sure. Would be an awesome "piece of junk" that Luke said once that's for sure. Got to build the smuggler compartments just in case...lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZbMjMb2qgY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZRKJzbbBV8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsFAZG2CkQI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU8nKYg87FA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSNPmFkAqA8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrx24jofi0w

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    Well, rotating solids will barely give you over-unity, it has to do with the fabric itself being of a very fine nature, and essentially fluid. On this planet, with the gravity gradient... that means a corkscrewed/vortex flow rate is required to 'overcome' it's fluidity, it cannot easily be done with a static function.


    So when trying to overcome it, we're talking about a stress loaded (field or similar) rotating fluid, so as to 'grab' it, to viciously couple. Hydrodynamic coupling. Like a rotating, vortexing, velcro-ish in act, viscous coupled at the quantum particle level.

    And then the high rpm of this spinning torus of viscous coupling. Previously, such motor arrangements would be custom or difficult to design and implement with no engineering or financial backing available.

    In this case, we have a easily obtained raw motor, that can be somehow applied to a given contraption that may be designed.

    I have no plans, just the motor itself is out there, and it can possibly inspire some who have had such ideas on their mind in one way or another.

    The thread is more of a public service announcement that reads like an advertizement of availability of a component.

    One of the key aspects of how it works, is revealed in a few data points. One being the dynamo experiment, which is inertially revealing.

    When a dynamo (DC motor, of a type) is sped up to a given specific high rpm and then stopped, and then 5-10 seconds later, it is re-started, the energy it takes to get to the prior speed is 'X'.

    When the dynamo is spun up to it's given specific high rpm, and then stopped very quickly..and then re-started immediately, as fast as possible, we find that after all the potentials in losses and speculated losses are calculated out, we still end up with the energy required to get back to the given specific rpm is...approximately 'X'-10%.

    What you have as a viscous coupled or shifted dark matter/aether field that is still spinning, or flowing, if you will. Your inertial characteristics between the two conditions of motor stop-and-start, have but one difference, and that is one of time. The backdrop, the fabric, with respect to the given frame of reference of the experiment....is Change/time. So at least the one clue is available.

    The reason I say dynamo over that of a dc motor, is that, loosely speaking, a uncontrolled DC motor design was the origin point of DC motors as we know them today, they were called dynamos. They had to be checked for run-away speed problems and they were still in the middle of designing for efficiency. Hundreds and hundreds of design efforts by many people, in many places. Some would speed up uncontrollably and blow apart at 100k rpm, or whatnot.

    The deal was that some of them, when getting into the uncontrolled accelerating speed condition... would begin levitating, or spinning upward, if not locked down.

    At the time, the experimental conditions had what is known as a 'dynamo pit', a large solid steel box or cement enclosure that would contain the exploding bits.

    It is the levitating bit that got out as a data point (and the runaway acceleration) and is the more incredulous part of the story, along with the 10% stop-start timing scenario, that together ....would begin to point the way.

    also, counter-rotating systems can be built with sliding angled systems of magnetic interaction, and one could get a a net thrust effect. Think of two DNA strands, one inside the other, but of a mirror build of the twist. Like a caterpillar drive but for gravity. An accelerated shearing effect, DNA counter-rotating squeeze/scissors. Just some potentials in investigation points.

    Spin the pair opposite to one another and possibly get a caterpillar drive with a shearing effect in the magnetics that may be fast enough to overcome gravity's compensation in it's dynamic fluid flow state. it's about viciously coupling past the requisite speed or rate. remember the pyramid and it's shape, and what happens when you put one on top of something like a Tesla coil/generator system.



    You get the dual spiral pattern coming out of the interaction between 'the space' (in what we call air) and the solid, the geometric shape of the copper cap. Think optical/fluid/motional interaction. Thus the field characteristics of the system//the witnessed dual helix pattern.... indicate a flow pattern of the dark matter/space/gravity/time field.
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    There's a lapsed patent for a British Rail saucer if anyone's interested:
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    We had a little discussion about this a while back on the Here and Now thread. eaglespirit is supposed to be building one

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    From the mainstream science magazine New Scientist (9 April 1978) :
    Quote THE SAUCER AT PLATFORM 9…
    Anyone spurred on by the current interest in flying saucers to think about building one for himself could do little better than turn to BP 1 310 990. This patent, which describes an atomic-powered, saucer-shaped space vehicle, was published in 1970. Since then the patentee, none other the British Rail, has not paid the renewal fees so the patent has lapsed, meaning anyone is allowed to construct the saucer according to the specifications. According to these, powerful electromagnets deflect charged particles produced by a thermo-nuclear fusion reaction to create lift and drive. Electrodes in the pulsed field are bombarded by charged particles and generate electric power for the craft. BR claimed that the idea was far less crazy than it sounded and that the inventor was experienced in nuclear physics.
    Let's set up shop, Araucaria : )
    Well, you've built the garage eaglespirit, but do you have the expertise in nuclear physics (can't say I have)?
    Sure You do : ) ...thermo-nuclear fusion Spirit reaction.
    We'll get 'er done...I'll be the test pilot, Haha!!
    OK, you can pick me up here. We have some very nice landing beaches and when they stop remembering the good folk of 1944, they will remember how the eagle has landed etc. on the new D-Day (disclosure day) of Y Year of E Era. We can then pick up the rest of the villagers and go have a celebration in Barbados or somewhere.
    Great idea. And then you can drop everyone here:



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    im not sure about the anti gravity vehicle etc, but I may pick up a dyson as my next vacuum

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    I would build a motor that has zero friction between moving parts that uses magnetic bearing.
    Rotating magnetic field creates stable force field which maintain an object stationary in the air.
    Also two colliding magnetic fields that rotate creates anti-gravity effect around its space.
    This is well-known phenomenon but established scientists never talk about it.

    IMHO it's easy to build simple over-unity device by applying the open-loop system with energy monitoring circuit.
    I have seen many individuals who think mechanical or electrical device can generate more output than input energy.
    They all miss the part of intelligence in over-unity device. Without careful management energy exchange, multiplication
    in the open-loop system, the device will be overloaded or the energy production ratio becomes so low that practically
    useless.
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    ok... I am feeling it...
    one of these http://paxscientific.com/ in a vessel full with mercury/ferro fluid/ molten lead... driven by a dyson via magnetic clutch.. easy to do actually....
    is there a preference for the shape of vessel? egg shaped maybe??

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    A Former director of the Nuclear Power Corporation of India, India's official public sector Nuclear regulatory and nuclear energy systems unveils an 'Over Unity' device, when analyzed in Newtonian classical terms, ie outdated thermodynamic theory...this device gets more energy out than is put in.

    This comes from all the way back in November, and it is only surfacing now?

    Talk about control of information and search engines! I tend to watch for this stuff, and I missed this one.

    Former Director At Nuclear Power Corporation Of India Unveils Over Unity Generator

    Quote In much of the mainstream scientific world, electrical generators that produce any efficiency higher than unity have been ruled out due to the Law of Conservation of Energy (LCE), but things are changing, and so is science (as it always has). Over the past few decades various scientists -including Nobel Prize winning scientists -have demonstrated that there is an energy that exists in so called “empty space” (space is just a construct that gives us the illusion of separation).

    Science has shown us that atoms aren’t sitting in a void, they’re in fact sitting in a sea of energy. Once physicists realized that this energy is there, the next question was whether it could be tapped, or used to develop new, clean green energy generators that run of off this energy. The answer is yes. Back in the 1980’s a researcher at Hughes laboratory by the name of Robert Forward demonstrated a phenomenon dubbed the “casimir effect” which proved that yes, this energy could indeed be tapped and possibly used to generate energy. (1)

    “Vacuums generally are thought to be voids, but Hendrik Casimir believed these pockets of nothing do indeed contain fluctuations of electromagnetic waves. He suggested that two metal plates held apart in a vacuum could trap the waves, creating vacuum energy that could attract or repel the plates. As the boundaries of a region move, the variation in vacuum energy (zero-point energy) leads to the Casimir effect. Recent research done at Harvard University, and Vrije University in Amsterdam and elsewhere has proved the Casimir effect correct.” (2)

    Below is a video of Paramahamsa Tewari and his Space Powered Generator. He was born on January 6, 1937, and graduated in Electrical Engineering in 1958 from Banaras Engineering College, India. He has held responsible positions in large engineering construction organizations, mostly in Nuclear Projects of the Department of Atomic Energy, India. He was also deputed abroad for a year at Douglas Point Nuclear Project, Canada. He retired in 1997 from his position as Executive Nuclear Director, Nuclear Power Corporation, Department of Atomic Energy, India, and is the former Project Director of the Kaiga Atomic Power Project.

    You can visit his website here. Please keep in mind that his website is currently in the process of being completely revamped and updated.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    One of the links from the article is where DARPA is publicly known to be chasing after the casimir effect as a path to over unity.

    From Scientific American magazine.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...fect-research/

    They speak on the seeking of 'levitation'.

    This goes back to what I spoke of in the thread on new technology for nano-coating to be enacted for the purposes of hardening tools for digging and whatnot, in the oil industry.

    How cigar shaped UFO's, etc..how their hulls are built up into existence, in this thread here.

    How such samples were painstakingly dug up (over a 10 year search) in missed wreckage from the Roswell crash site.

    Which takes you straight to Phil Schneider, his lectures and material samples.
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    Thanks. Great information. I want to build my own craft now.

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    Quote Posted by meat suit (here)
    ok... I am feeling it...
    one of these http://paxscientific.com/ in a vessel full with mercury/ferro fluid/ molten lead... driven by a dyson via magnetic clutch.. easy to do actually....
    is there a preference for the shape of vessel? egg shaped maybe??
    The field would be of an energetically offset torus, ie lower gravity on top, higher on the bottom, it would pull the craft through space, like a moving smoke ring, with regard to the gravitational/temporal/dimensional field produced.


    It can be done in other ways, but it is probably best to be done via charged multi-axis-rotation fluids, at this stage of human development.



    The physical aspects of the craft and field interact, so it is best if they are of similar ..er...symmetry.

    Note that the more interesting stories of craft all encompass these aspects. Even the people/beings in the craft are situated/oriented so they interact with the produced fields in a way that has them being symmetrically affected (as is possible) by the produced fields and energies.

    It is the produced field and aether interaction of said field......that get the job done. It requires a triple axis offset or triple axis interactive drag, hence the rotating torus field. For example, if the field did not have the side rotation and was just vertical, straight up and down in it's rotation, it would start to spin. That the side slip of the aether, would cause the craft to not levitate or not take off.

    The aether interaction is magnetohydrodynamic in nature, which is fundamentally in all physical axis...x, y, and z. And then the time component.

    A strong large potent high spin field produces a 'lock' on the inherent slip and motion of the aether, and then one can move through it, via this drag which is overcoming it's inherent capacity to flow, via exceeding it's natural flow rate within the given field 'lock'.

    It's all brute force and ignorance, but it works.

    As an experimental toy, the side slip would produce spin in the experimental toy, but that's not a big deal, when one is just trying to produce the basic effect. When built 'full size' for physical inclusion of avatars, like humans or whatnot, one probably does not want the high rpm spin..so the triple offset is more, er insistently required.
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    I will have to re-read that over some time Carmody.... I think it was worth spending time on Marko Rodin in this context...

    by the way,,, I was pondering what would happen if a colloidal silver or gold or copper solution was spun at that high rate maybe with certain electrical currants injected.... or is it the weight of the liquid thats more important??

    mods... there should be a 'thanks for blowing my brains out' button...

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    I thought about using alloys, but the alloys have multiple vibrational constituents and might make the effect more difficult to achieve. Or easier. It's one of those things. That it might have smaller multiple peaks of interaction, ie at various rates of charge and rotation. Or that the mercury has to be used as it is a single element and the energetic interaction can be peaked with one single charge and spin rate. Or that the alloy might separate under charge pressures like those in use.

    It might be smart to start with a gallium/indium/tin eutectic, which is easy to produce.

    Oh yes, PLEASE NOTE, that in the secret space program 2014 video set, the UFO craft researchers speak on the mercury method and that means LOTS of mercury. Lots of craft --- lots of mercury.


    Check out this spoor (potential corroborating evidence) or incidental information on mercury:

    Mercury Export Ban Act of 2008 (USA) (US gov website link)
    Quote The Mercury Export Ban Act (PDF) (8 pp, 166K) (MEBA or the Act; Public Law No. 110-414), which became law on October 14, 2008, is intended to reduce the availability of elemental mercury in domestic and international markets. By reducing the supply of elemental mercury in commerce, the Act aims to reduce the use of mercury in artisanal mining and for other commercial purposes globally. The Act does this by prohibiting the export of elemental mercury as of January 1, 2013, and requires the Department of Energy (DOE) to designate and operate a facility (or facilities) for the purpose of long-term management and storage of elemental mercury generated in the United States. The Act also prohibits the transfer of elemental mercury held by federal agencies as of the date of enactment in order to further control the flow of elemental mercury in the domestic market.


    Mercury went from about $65 a flask, to as high as $3600 per flask.

    Furthermore...if one were to use the best shielding possible, without considering price, gold is pretty well at the top of the list. Note those empty vaults.

    Micheal Schratt illustrates the build of the craft, which is what is mentioned in vague terms (but clearer than before) in this here thread in the above posts.

    The other pertinent video is from Mark McCandlish. (38 minute mark)

    mark's video concerns the electrostatic versions, the earliest ones, and the link in the above posts about the nano-layered materials patent threat, concerns cigar shaped craft and whatnot. (and what was found in the sands of roswell)

    In mark's electrostatic version, thrust/charge/field vectoring can control spin (via control of the 48 sections), whereas the rotating mercury must employ all three axis in the single motion. With these two types, the craft shape is nearly the same as the field generation is very similar. IIRC, the mercury engine type may be..in the triangle craft. Apparently humans have very many of those, so lots and lots of mercury, and lots of shielding. No mercury and empty gold vaults. (near earth use, van Allen belts, etc. Lots of radiation)
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    And this:

    David Swenson of 3M Corporation describes an anomaly where workers encountered a strange "invisible wall" in the area under a fast-moving sheet of electrically charged polypropelene film in a factory. This "invisible wall" was strong enough to prevent humans from passing through. A person near this "wall" was unable to turn, and so had to walk backwards to retreat from it.

    This occurred in late summer in South Carolina, in extremely high humidity. Polypropelene (PP) film on 50K ft. rolls 20ft wide was being slit and transferred to multiple smaller spools. The film was taken off the main roll at high speed, flowed upwards 20ft to overhead rollers, passed horizontally 20ft and then downwards to the slitting device, where it was spooled onto shorter rolls. The whole operation formed a cubical shaped tent, with two walls and a ceiling approximately 20ft square. The spools ran at 1000ft/min, or about 10MPH. The PP film had been manufactured with dissimilar surface structure on opposing faces. Contact electrification can occur even in similar materials if the surface textures or micro-structures are significantly different. The generation of a large imbalance of electrical surface-charge during unspooling was therefore not unexpected, and is a common problem in this industry. "Static cling" in the megavolt range!

    On entering the factory floor and far from the equipment, Mr. Swenson's 200KV/ft handheld electrometer was found to slam to full scale. When he attempted to walk through the corridor formed by the moving film, he was stopped about half way through by an "invisible wall." He could lean all his weight forward but was unable to pass. He observed a fly get pulled into the charged, moving plastic, and speculates that the e-fields might have been strong enough to suck in birds!

    The production manager did not believe Mr. Swenson's report of the strange phenomena. When they both returned to the factory floor, they found that the "wall" was no longer there. But the production workers had noticed the effect as occurring early in the morning when humidity was lower, so they agreed to try again another day. The second attempt was successful, and early in the morning the field underneath the "tent" was strong enough to raise even the short, curly hair of the production manager. The "invisible wall" effect had returned. He commented that he "didn't know whether to fix it or sell tickets."

    High current, high spin rate, high voltage.

    Again, why the star wars thing, the lasers in space via Regan? The lasers breach the electrostatic field and 'pop' it, and cause a short in the motor/drive system of this particular type of UFO.
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    Default Re: Building your own Vimana/Anti-gravity UFO for a few hundred $

    a gyroscope on steroids....
    presumably the sub atomic particles, electrons etc. get dragged into a kind of collective orbit at high spin, away from there normal routine and then cause the effect.
    electric charge and magnetism added maybe vacuum... I want to play with this stuff..

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