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    This is great news for the countries involved and the entire world. Apart from Netanyahu.

    As you know the U.S. and many countries around the world imposed sanctions against Iran's banks, oil and gas industries, over it's civilian nuclear program.

    Now these countries (Iran, Germany, Russia, U.S. France U.K. and China) have reached a final agreement on Iran's civilian nuclear work.

    President of the U.S. hails historic understanding with Iran over it's Nuclear Program.
    Quote "Today, after many months of tough, principled diplomacy, we have achieved the framework for that deal. And it is a good deal," Obama said in a statement made from the Rose Garden of the White House on Thursday.

    He confirmed that Iran has so far met all of its obligations, adding that the mutual understanding is based on “unprecedented verification”.

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    The US president said he is "convinced" that, if the framework understanding leads to a final agreement, "it will make our country, our allies, and our world safer."

    "It is a good deal, a deal that meets our core objectives," he said.

    "This has been a long time coming. The Islamic Republic of Iran has been advancing its nuclear program for decades," he said.

    The US president further ensured the critics including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that a diplomatic solution with Iran is the best option.

    "A diplomatic solution is the best way to get this done, and offers a more comprehensive and lasting solution. It is our best option by far," he said.

    Obama also warned the US Congress against taking any action that could upend work toward a final deal, noting that in that case the United States would be the party that will be blamed for the failure of the talks.

    "If Congress kills this deal not based on expert analysis and without offering any reasonable alternative, then it's the United States that will be blamed for the failure of diplomacy, international unity will collapse and the path to conflict will widen," Obama said.
    Here is the rest of the article coming from Press TV.
    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/04...-understanding
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    Was this April's fools day news? -Almost too good to be true, coming from US president...

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    I heard this on the news earlier today and found it extremely interesting!

    For those of you who follow Simon Parkes, I listened to one of Simon's interviews of a week ago or so in which he said that Obama was trying to cut the strings - puppet's strings, that is.

    I was rather dumbfounded to hear those words from Simon who in the past had not trusted Obama, but now he says that Obama is changing and trying to think for himself (paraphrasing here)!

    An American president thinking for himself is really good news! That is, if we can trust what we read and hear these days!
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    It was about time. Good job!

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    Default Re: Iran and P5 +1 make agreement on Iran's Nuclear Issue






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    Iran nuclear talks: 'Framework' deal agreed


    An outline agreement on the future shape of Iran's nuclear programme has been
    reached after marathon talks with six major powers in Switzerland.Under the deal,
    Iran will reduce its uranium enrichment capacity in exchange for phased sanctions
    relief.US President Barack Obama said a "historic understanding" had been reached
    with Iran.The world powers and Iran now aim to draft a comprehensive nuclear
    accord by 30 June.

    The framework agreement was announced by the European Union and Iran after
    eight days of negotiations in Lausanne.




    The talks between the so-called P5+1 - the US, UK, France, China and Russia plus
    Germany - and Iran at Lausanne's Beau-Rivage Palace hotel continued beyond the
    original self-imposed deadline of 31 March.

    Analysis: Barbara Plett Usher, BBC News, Lausanne


    (L-R) Chinese Ambassador to the United Nations Wu Hailong, French Foreign Minister
    Laurent Fabius, German Foreign Minister Frank Walter Steinmeier, European Union
    High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Federica Mogherini, Iranian
    Foreign Minister Javad Zarifat, Russian Deputy Political Director Alexey Karpov, British
    Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry

    After a missed deadline and two exhausting nights of negotiations Iran and the six world
    powers presented their framework as a major achievement.

    The EU's top diplomat, Federica Mogherini, read out a joint statement outlining the main
    points, including a reduction in the number of Iran's operating centrifuges, changes to its
    nuclear facilities, and a promise to lift sanctions if these steps are verified.

    This is an unwritten understanding, not a formal agreement, and it lays the foundation
    for very tough negotiations on the details.

    But for now its architects are celebrating a hard won, potentially historic, achievement.

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    Iran denies Western claims it is trying to build a nuclear weapon. It entered negotiations
    in order to see sanctions lifted.

    'Unprecedented verification'

    According to a US factsheet issued after the talks, the outline deal includes the following conditions:
    ◾Iran will reduce its installed centrifuges - used to enrich uranium - by two-thirds and reduce its
    stockpile of low-enriched uranium

    ◾The centrifuges that are no longer in use will be placed in storage, monitored by the International
    Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)

    ◾All of Iran's nuclear facilities will be subject to regular IAEA inspections

    ◾Iran will redesign its heavy-water reactor in Arak so that it cannot produce weapons-grade plutonium

    ◾US and EU sanctions related to Iran's nuclear programme will be lifted in phases, but can be brought
    back if Iran does not meet its obligations.

    Mr Obama said the deal's implementation would be closely watched. "If Iran cheats, the world will know
    it," he said, adding that the deal was based not on trust but on "unprecedented verification".

    He said the framework agreement had come after "months of tough, principled diplomacy", and that it was "a good deal".

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32166814
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    The Israelis don't want this.
    They will come up with some piece of theatre to wreck it.
    Possibly involving their puppet army ... ISIS.
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    but this good news makes me wonder if perhaps... just perhaps...
    Fulford and Wilcox are correct in asserting that the Cabal is
    taking the beating they so richly deserve.

    be happy

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    This is excellent, excellent news with huge consequences for us all. At the same time, it is under reported by the main stream media: not going to war will not benefits many of the sponsors who rely on an economy of fear, terror and political upheavel to propel their profits. Sorry Haliburton, fewer places in rubble to rebuild, sorry big Pharma, fewer people needing drugs for their PTSD or prosthetic devices for their blown off limbs, sorry energy corps, it will be harder for you to utilize your political and military cronies to corner the market. Perhaps we can send some of the surplus Prozac that will accumulate to Benjamin Netanyahu and the Saudi family who can't figure out how to function without the U.S. bombing Iran.

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    This is excellent, excellent news with huge consequences for us all. At the same time, it is under reported by the main stream media: not going to war will not benefits many of the sponsors who rely on an economy of fear, terror and political upheavel to propel their profits. Sorry Haliburton, fewer places in rubble to rebuild, sorry big Pharma, fewer people needing drugs for their PTSD or prosthetic devices for their blown off limbs, sorry energy corps, it will be harder for you to utilize your political and military cronies to corner the market. Perhaps we can send some of the surplus Prozac that will accumulate to Benjamin Netanyahu and the Saudi family who can't figure out how to function without the U.S. bombing Iran.
    good post! :-)

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    Default Re: Iran and P5 +1 make agreement on Iran's Nuclear Issue

    Why was Iran up until recently producing plutonium? This is not needed for a fission reactor. If they have centrifuges it means
    a) They can secretly be used to enrich beyond reactor grade to bomb grade
    b) They can be copied and put into secret facilities to do the above.

    If I was an Israeli I would be feeling uncomfortable right now. Why did the Iranians get into nuclear at all? They have plenty of Oil and Solar potential. They could develop Molten Salt Thorium Reactors which do not produce Bomb Material.
    If Keshe is right, then they have a model for Plasma Over unity reactors.

    If we are looking at a rapprochement between Iran & USA that's great. I think Obama dislikes Israel, and the USA establishment may be turning against them because of MOSSAD's involvement in 9-11. OK.
    Then we are left with an isolated Israel, with hundreds of Nukes, and Israeli nuclear capable subs patrolling the Persian Gulf 24-7.

    This may be a deal whereby the west accepts limited Iranian Nukes on the condition that they are kept secret. The Saudis have a 'bomb store' in Pakistan. I wonder if they will move then into Saudi? I wonder if we will hear about that.

    Israel - welcome to the MAD club!
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    Sounds really good. Now they have to implement the same strategy with Russia. and we might escape WW3.
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    now they can sell the oil at higher prices again. Watch the cost go up over summer. They thought they could kinda blackmail the russians through economic manipulation and if they would have had success, this deal wouldn't have happened. So the western gambit failed imo
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    Quote Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
    I heard this on the news earlier today and found it extremely interesting!

    For those of you who follow Simon Parkes, I listened to one of Simon's interviews of a week ago or so in which he said that Obama was trying to cut the strings - puppet's strings, that is.

    I was rather dumbfounded to hear those words from Simon who in the past had not trusted Obama, but now he says that Obama is changing and trying to think for himself (paraphrasing here)!

    An American president thinking for himself is really good news! That is, if we can trust what we read and hear these days!
    IMO Simon Parkes gives truthful information, but it is hard for me to believe this point. Metaphorically a puppet survives by its strings, if cut the puppet falls. Realistically a president is hand picked by the Cabals, all his connections are with the Cabals. I think it is rather difficult for him to have support from his associates, even covertly. That means single handedly, with dismal support from the people Obama can do nothing even if he has evolved to a greater being. Is there a twist to this news?

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    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    Quote Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
    I heard this on the news earlier today and found it extremely interesting!

    For those of you who follow Simon Parkes, I listened to one of Simon's interviews of a week ago or so in which he said that Obama was trying to cut the strings - puppet's strings, that is.

    I was rather dumbfounded to hear those words from Simon who in the past had not trusted Obama, but now he says that Obama is changing and trying to think for himself (paraphrasing here)!

    An American president thinking for himself is really good news! That is, if we can trust what we read and hear these days!
    IMO Simon Parkes gives truthful information, but it is hard for me to believe this point. Metaphorically a puppet survives by its strings, if cut the puppet falls. Realistically a president is hand picked by the Cabals, all his connections are with the Cabals. I think it is rather difficult for him to have support from his associates, even covertly. That means single handedly, with dismal support from the people Obama can do nothing even if he has evolved to a greater being. Is there a twist to this news?
    He's most probably hand picked by the cabal but I'm sure that members of the cabal fight against each other from time to time for different reasons like....because he did something that I didn't like or because he said something about me or my policies or whatever other reasons, they will never be perfect or spot on at work.

    Obama probably doesn't like Netanyahu and he is screwing up his plans to the best of his abilities as POTUS.
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    Last week, Arizona Republican Senator John McCain took to the Senate floor and urged a halt to the U.S.-Iranian nuclear negotiations that coalesced into a framework agreement on Thursday. Sen. McCain said that Israel may not be able to accept Iran merely diminishing its uranium enrichment capacity, and that Israel "may have to go rogue."

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4532915/mccain-calls-war Video (1 minute):
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    Quote Posted by seko (here)
    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    Quote Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
    I heard this on the news earlier today and found it extremely interesting!

    For those of you who follow Simon Parkes, I listened to one of Simon's interviews of a week ago or so in which he said that Obama was trying to cut the strings - puppet's strings, that is.

    I was rather dumbfounded to hear those words from Simon who in the past had not trusted Obama, but now he says that Obama is changing and trying to think for himself (paraphrasing here)!

    An American president thinking for himself is really good news! That is, if we can trust what we read and hear these days!
    IMO Simon Parkes gives truthful information, but it is hard for me to believe this point. Metaphorically a puppet survives by its strings, if cut the puppet falls. Realistically a president is hand picked by the Cabals, all his connections are with the Cabals. I think it is rather difficult for him to have support from his associates, even covertly. That means single handedly, with dismal support from the people Obama can do nothing even if he has evolved to a greater being. Is there a twist to this news?
    He's most probably hand picked by the cabal but I'm sure that members of the cabal fight against each other from time to time for different reasons like....because he did something that I didn't like or because he said something about me or my policies or whatever other reasons, they will never be perfect or spot on at work.

    Obama probably doesn't like Netanyahu and he is screwing up his plans to the best of his abilities as POTUS.
    Discord amongst the Cabals is quite possible, but I don't see their grand plan of NWO being hindered by any force yet. To see an outward expression of displease between the leaders, who are really puppets, is like seeing the arguments between the two American parties. The real action is always behind the scene. Talks of peace could be a camouflage. We must be beware of the admonition of Nostradamus, the great war will catch everyone by surprise amid promises of peace.
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    Did you read about how Israel has now started to dump the US dollar in retaliation? They joined the AIIB.... A little pissed, are they?

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    I too am happy that there is a decent chance, when the agreement is concluded, for cessation of hostilities and the eventual normalization of relations between Iran and the United States! We must all be especially wary of false flag operations that may attempt to sabotage this hopeful process. Along those lines beware of Press TV! It seems there may have been penetration of that Iranian news network, specializing in news directed to a western audience, by journalist-saboteurs on the ADL / AIPAC payroll! http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/05/352032/
    It is high time for all nations complying with international law on this issue, to declare Israel a rogue nuclear state and vigorously pursue diplomatic and economic sanctions against their unlawful nuclear weapons program. Plenty of proof exists, even in the public domain for this action to have complete validity.

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