The fall of America

[zakkyD1302]

Hello all, I honestly feel like America does not have much longer I am thinking sometime before 2017 maybe im just a paranoid nut case but all the signs are there I have done alot of research on this subject and they basically created a cage and are just waiting to slam the front door I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of good places to go and maybe routes to take to get out of the country I live in az so luckily im close =] I have also heard panama Puerto Rico and chile would be good places to go im pretty much on foot lol so if anyone has any information to ad to this that would be awesome I dont think staying and fighting is going to be a good option to many people are not aware of whats happening

[Bluegreen]

I'm not going anywhere
I'm staying right here with my fellow good-hearted human beings
Enlightened or un it makes no difference
We will band together and win
Because in my experience the bad guys always lose
I will see this happen or die trying
I PROMISE

[zakkyD1302]

Running to fight another day isnt the same as dying a pointless death cuz trust me I am by no means a runner but I like to think im very stratigic as im 4th generation of high ranking marines. I think the first wave of rounding up patriots is going to be pretty bad is all im saying I dont think people r going to even have much of a fighting chance until it levels out and just so u know if martial law happens u really have less then 24 hours to.get out of the country but I agree they are under estimating the free spirit of the american person americans are EVERYWHERE!

[wnlight]

"fighting chance", "band together", "bad guys always lose" ?
Just remember that TPTB are very ready for ANY violence. I keep telling my sons that. Only through peace and love will Americans persevere. However, history shows us that many have died in peace movements also. I will be here in Cuenca, Ecuador, to return to the USA once Americans regain their bravery and reject TPTB to regain their freedoms that they have given away in fear.

Find a quiet spot far from any TV or computer and re-read the Declaration of Independence. Do not download it because 'they' will put your name on their FEMA camp lists. See how many points in the declaration apply today. Go to the Thomas Jefferson memorial and read the inscriptions in stone there. But DO NOT let the police get a good photo of your face while there.

Do not let fear rule your life, but it is smart to take precautions.

[Bluegreen]

As every General knows the first volley over the wall is written off
And whatever you do zakkyD1302 don't thank me

[zakkyD1302]

Posted by wnlight (here)
"fighting chance", "band together", "bad guys always lose" ?
Just remember that TPTB are very ready for ANY violence. I keep telling my sons that. Only through peace and love will Americans persevere. However, history shows us that many have died in peace movements also. I will be here in Cuenca, Ecuador, to return to the USA once Americans regain their bravery and reject TPTB to regain their freedoms that they have given away in fear.

Find a quiet spot far from any TV or computer and re-read the Declaration of Independence. Do not download it because 'they' will put your name on their FEMA camp lists. See how many points in the declaration apply today. Go to the Thomas Jefferson memorial and read the inscriptions in stone there. But DO NOT let the police get a good photo of your face while there.

Do not let fear rule your life, but it is smart to take precautions.

I totally agree Iv been saying the only chance america has it to win this through peace going out protesting taking are rights back but they have the sheep well trained its sad but I think america died with all the greats back in the day jfk martin luther king malcom x ect. They all were very good at rallying the people to get out and do something which is why they were a target

[grannyfranny100]

What you have done to save our country?

[zakkyD1302]

Posted by grannyfranny100 (here)
What you have done to save our country?

This is the most moron remark I have ever heard and if u must know im a hotshot and spend all summer long saving my country's land and have woke up in the medics tent twice from smoke inhalation and was suppose to be on the crew of 19 that passed away but instead someone was watching out for me and had me switched so instead I worked next to them while they all died so just go bang ur retarded head on a wall

[Bluegreen]

zak
I come from a military family
Thank you for your service

[ghostrider]

for what it's worth , the Plejaren say America will no longer be a country and be in total chaos by 2020 ... it is predicted we will have two civil wars the second one shortly after the first and the nation will be divided up into five sectors ... religion will play a major role ... Henoch predicted the U.S. will suffer a terrible catastrophe , one that has never happened in the history of Earth , one should avoid the coastlines and move to higher ground/ the mountains ... it's up to each individual , to gain their own perspective on the situation ... time to dig in, chin up , keep a prepaired mind , be flexible , and don't over react , learn to solve problems ...know that humanity shines when things are at their worst ... the bigger the trouble , the harder we work , when the storm comes , working together , we can overcome anything ... it's all in how you choose to view it ...

[grannyfranny100]

zakkyD1302 . I apologize. I was rude and judgmental.

[zakkyD1302]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
for what it's worth , the Plejaren say America will no longer be a country and be in total chaos by 2020 ... it is predicted we will have two civil wars the second one shortly after the first and the nation will be divided up into five sectors ... religion will play a major role ... Henoch predicted the U.S. will suffer a terrible catastrophe , one that has never happened in the history of Earth , one should avoid the coastlines and move to higher ground/ the mountains ... it's up to each individual , to gain their own perspective on the situation ... time to dig in, chin up , keep a prepaired mind , be flexible , and don't over react , learn to solve problems ...know that humanity shines when things are at their worst ... the bigger the trouble , the harder we work , when the storm comes , working together , we can overcome anything ... it's all in how you choose to view it ...

Thats very interesting how did you obtain this information?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by zakkyD1302 (here)

...and was suppose to be on the crew of 19 that passed away

Can you say more?

[ghostrider]

Posted by zakkyD1302 (here)

Posted by ghostrider (here)
for what it's worth , the Plejaren say America will no longer be a country and be in total chaos by 2020 ... it is predicted we will have two civil wars the second one shortly after the first and the nation will be divided up into five sectors ... religion will play a major role ... Henoch predicted the U.S. will suffer a terrible catastrophe , one that has never happened in the history of Earth , one should avoid the coastlines and move to higher ground/ the mountains ... it's up to each individual , to gain their own perspective on the situation ... time to dig in, chin up , keep a prepaired mind , be flexible , and don't over react , learn to solve problems ...know that humanity shines when things are at their worst ... the bigger the trouble , the harder we work , when the storm comes , working together , we can overcome anything ... it's all in how you choose to view it ...

Thats very interesting how did you obtain this information?

Henoch predicted it 8,000 years ago , also the plejaren Quetzal gave it again in 1958 , and in the 1980's , pieces of it are written in Revelations , Isaiah , Jeremiah ,and Michael Horn's website and radio shows , and Edward's contact notes with the plejaren ... it very lengthy reading but so much detailed information about the future , it just takes a lot of reading ... there is over 26,000 pages of notes from conversations with the plejaren for the last 72 years ...

[ghostrider]

Posted by ghostrider (here)

Posted by zakkyD1302 (here)

Posted by ghostrider (here)
for what it's worth , the Plejaren say America will no longer be a country and be in total chaos by 2020 ... it is predicted we will have two civil wars the second one shortly after the first and the nation will be divided up into five sectors ... religion will play a major role ... Henoch predicted the U.S. will suffer a terrible catastrophe , one that has never happened in the history of Earth , one should avoid the coastlines and move to higher ground/ the mountains ... it's up to each individual , to gain their own perspective on the situation ... time to dig in, chin up , keep a prepaired mind , be flexible , and don't over react , learn to solve problems ...know that humanity shines when things are at their worst ... the bigger the trouble , the harder we work , when the storm comes , working together , we can overcome anything ... it's all in how you choose to view it ...

Thats very interesting how did you obtain this information?

Henoch predicted it 8,000 years ago , also the plejaren Quetzal gave it again in 1958 , and in the 1980's , pieces of it are written in Revelations , Isaiah , Jeremiah ,and Michael Horn's website and radio shows , and Edward's contact notes with the plejaren ... it very lengthy reading but so much detailed information about the future , it just takes a lot of reading ... there is over 26,000 pages of notes from conversations with the plejaren for the last 72 years ...

scroll to line 146
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Bil...och_Prophecies

[zakkyD1302]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by zakkyD1302 (here)

...and was suppose to be on the crew of 19 that passed away

Can you say more?

What do u mean can I say more? Thats kinda the reason I started looking into all of this I took a picture of where they died the very next morning so not even 12 hours later and there was this huge white orb in the picture and it was not a glare from the sun or anything like that. I showed it to my boss at the time ( which I did not even notice the white orb ) when I showed it to him he was like whats that orb and I was like wow I dont know and he said white is suppose to be pure souls or something im not sure if thats true or not I was actually going to share the picture on here to get some feed back but I havent been able to find the picture but when I was researching that stuff thats how I actually found this website

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by zakkyD1302 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by zakkyD1302 (here)

...and was suppose to be on the crew of 19 that passed away

Can you say more?

What do u mean can I say more? Thats kinda the reason I started looking into all of this I took a picture of where they died the very next morning so not even 12 hours later and there was this huge white orb in the picture and it was not a glare from the sun or anything like that. I showed it to my boss at the time ( which I did not even notice the white orb ) when I showed it to him he was like whats that orb and I was like wow I dont know and he said white is suppose to be pure souls or something im not sure if thats true or not I was actually going to share the picture on here to get some feed back but I havent been able to find the picture but when I was researching that stuff thats how I actually found this website

I mean: which crew of 19 are you referring to, that died, and that you were nearly part of?

[zakkyD1302]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by zakkyD1302 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by zakkyD1302 (here)

...and was suppose to be on the crew of 19 that passed away

Can you say more?

What do u mean can I say more? Thats kinda the reason I started looking into all of this I took a picture of where they died the very next morning so not even 12 hours later and there was this huge white orb in the picture and it was not a glare from the sun or anything like that. I showed it to my boss at the time ( which I did not even notice the white orb ) when I showed it to him he was like whats that orb and I was like wow I dont know and he said white is suppose to be pure souls or something im not sure if thats true or not I was actually going to share the picture on here to get some feed back but I havent been able to find the picture but when I was researching that stuff thats how I actually found this website

I mean: which crew of 19 are you referring to, that died, and that you were nearly part of?

Yarnell presscott hotshots

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by zakkyD1302 (here)
Yarnell presscott hotshots

Would that be this incident: Marine Veterans Among 19 Firefighters Killed ?

[zakkyD1302]

Yes, thats the one