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    http://worldtruth.tv/government-orde...-5000-or-more/

    The Wall Street Journal reports:

    The U.S. Justice Department’s criminal head said banks may need to go beyond filing suspicious activity reports when they encounter a risky customer.

    “The vast majority of financial institutions file suspicious activity reports when they suspect that an account is connected to nefarious activity,” said assistant attorney general Leslie Caldwell in a speech last Monday, according to prepared remarks.

    “But, in appropriate cases, we encourage those institutions to consider whether to take more action: specifically, to alert law enforcement authorities about the problem.”

    The remarks indicate that banks may be expected to do more than just file SARs, a responsibility that itself can be expensive and time-consuming.

    Some banks already have close relationships with law enforcement, said Kevin Rosenberg, chair of Goldberg Lowenstein & Weatherwax LLP’s government investigation and white collar litigation group. Ms. Caldwell’s remarks “speak to moving forward in a more collaborative way,” said Mr. Rosenberg.

    A tip-off from a bank about a suspicious customer could lead law enforcement to seize funds or start an investigation, Ms. Caldwell said.

    Don’t think for a moment that the government won’t potentially utilize this as a means of simplifying the seizure of property from innocent people with zero due process.

    Mac Slavo of SHFTplan.com writes:

    “Do you need to withdraw cash to purchase a used car from a private seller? Or perhaps you are pulling out some emergency cash for a loved one.

    Either one of these activities are now considered suspicious and if your cash withdrawal amounts to even a few thousand dollars your bank teller is under a legal requirement to alert officials about your suspected criminal activity. And before you argue that you can’t possibly be a suspect because you have done nothing wrong, consider that even being suspected of being a suspect is now enough to land you on a terrorist watchlist in America.”

    In 2013, there was a substantial expansion of the terrorist watchlist system. It authorized a secret process that requires neither “concrete facts” nor “irrefutable evidence” to designate an American or foreigner as a terrorist, according to government documents obtained by The Intercept.

    So potentially you can receive a visit from the police, be put on a terror watch list, and/or have your assets seized for doing nothing other than simply withdrawing your hard earned cash from the bank.

    Let that sink in for a moment.

    All of that for trying to withdraw your own money from a bank!

    It’s always for “our” safety… always about safety.

    Just give up a little bit more freedom and exchange it for the warm fuzzy feeling of safety. Exactly how much more liberty must we give up before we finally achieve the ever elusive maximum security?

    It seems everyone is a suspect in police state USA.
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    I've been seeing this firsthand for years. I do a lot of contracting work and sometimes people work for me that insist on being paid in cash so I have to go cash my clients' checks. This has become much more difficult the last few years. Some banks refuse or charge such a high cashing fee that it's ridiculous. I've had banks call my clients right there on the spot to make sure it's ok to give them MY money (a written check made out to me is my cash once it's signed), which I find very disrespectful and unprofessional. I especially love when they require TWO forms of state issued ID, as if my state issued drivers license isn't proof enough of who I am, especially when I am standing in a bank being observed by numerous cameras in perfect view (so I have to carry around my passport). All this to make getting cash more difficult and to condition people to stop dealing in cash.
    And I'm doing nothing illegal or nefarious and pay my damn taxes like a good little slave! I just don't like being treated like a criminal!
    I keep wondering, if this continues, when I will have to move and where to get away from the police state.

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    Well, I guess Matt won't be moving to Louisiana:

    Shopping with cash is now illegal in this state


    From Joseph Salerno at LewRockwell.com:
    With the passage of House Bill 195 into law, the State of Louisiana has banned the use of cash in all transactions involving second-hand goods. State representative Ricky Hardy, a co-author of the bill, claims that the bill targets criminals who traffic in stolen goods. According to Hardy, “It’s a mechanism to be used so the police department has something to go on and have a lead.”

    The bill prohibits cash transactions by “second-hand dealers,” defined to include garage sales, flea markets, resellers of specialty items, and even non-profit resellers like Goodwill. Curiously, it specifically exempts pawnbrokers from the ban. But of course, pawn shops – and not rented stalls at local church flea markets – are notorious as places that criminals frequent to convert stolen goods into quick cash. So what gives?

    Are the authors of the bill and those who voted for it ignoramuses – or are they deliberately obscuring the real purpose of the bill? The answer is clear once we examine the other provisions of the bill. The bill goes far beyond banning cash transactions. As lawyer Thad Ackel notes, the bill requires:

    Quote … second-hand dealers to turn over a valuable business asset, namely, their business’ proprietary client information. For every transaction, a second-hand dealer must obtain the seller’s personal information such as their name, address, driver’s license number, and the license plate number of the vehicle in which the goods were delivered.

    They must also make a detailed description of the item(s) purchased and submit this with the personal identification information of every transaction to the local policing authorities through electronic daily reports.

    If a seller cannot or refuses to produce to the second-hand dealer any of the required forms of identification, the second-hand dealer is prohibited from completing the transaction.
    So the aim of the bill is not to aid law enforcement in apprehending criminals, none of whom would be ever stupid enough to turn over such information. The real intent is to feed government’s insatiable hunger for tax revenues by completely stripping law-abiding citizens of financial privacy in second-hand transactions, every detail of which is fed directly into police files. This troubling development in Louisiana parallels the intensification of the war on cash by the Federal government. Last month, it was reported that the U.S. Justice Department ordered bank employees to snitch to the cops on customers who withdrew $5,000 or more. In a speech, assistant attorney general Leslie Caldwell exhorted banks to “alert law enforcement authorities about the problem” so that police can “seize the funds” or at least “initiate an investigation.”

    SEE ALSO: Can this happen in your state? This 22-year U.S. Congressman says YES. Here’s why…
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    Actually, a state law against the sale of second hand goods, via cash.... is not likely to be effective, as it is contrary to federal law. I expect an injunction or challenge/hold on this state law, to be appearing in the next few days. Just a wild guess based on obvious facts tied to extant law.
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    Back around 15 years ago, I was in Germany, and went to a small bank branch in a small town to change (not withdraw) UK pounds cash into 2,000 euros. That was about the same number of dollars at the time.

    The bank manager was summoned, and he asked me what I was doing there. "Im Urlaub", I told him: "On vacation." He was unsmiling, but seemed to accept it, and I was required to show them my passport in order to change the money.

    When I landed back in Edinburgh, I was pulled aside by customs and every part of my baggage was meticulously searched. It was clear I'd been targeted and tracked. There was of course nothing there... but I'm sure I was put on some list.

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    money is no longer real money, and your no longer real money isn't even yours.

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    So I'm confused. If I sell some stuff on craigslist and the buyer pays me with a large sum of cash, is it now my civil duty to report them to the authorities? "Um yes sir, that is correct, I sold the man a vintage guitar and he paid me in CASH!!! I just thought you should know." Whats next. being put on the watch list when we deposit large amounts of cash as well. What a bunch of BS. I know its just a move towards a cashless society, but they haven't thought it out very well, now all of the people who buy drugs and child prostitutes from the CIA are going to be hassled when they make these large cash withdrawals required to pay for these services-this could really hurt the CIA's 5 year business plan!!! :-)
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    So I'm confused. If I sell some stuff on craigslist and the buyer pays me with a large sum of cash, is it now my civil duty to report them to the authorities? "Um yes sir, that is correct, I sold the man a vintage guitar and he paid me in CASH!!! I just thought you should know." Whats next. being put on the watch list when we deposit large amounts of cash as well. What a bunch of BS. I know its just a move towards a cashless society, but they haven't thought it out very well, now all of the people who buy drugs and child prostitutes from the CIA are going to be hassled when they make these large cash withdrawals required to pay for these services-this could really hurt the CIA's 5 year business plan!!! :-)
    No, I don't think that's the case. For what I understand it applies to transactions at the bank, when you withdraw money from your account in the amount of 5K or over. Further more, this measure has been going on for a long time with deposits or withdrawns of 10k or over in cash transactions.
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    … Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions — everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread and circuses...

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    Brazil is not the place to hide MPENNERY if you want to flee the police state. We simply copy all the bills from Europe and USA. It´s just a matter of time for this new trend to become reality here. Recently our Central Bank decreased the amount of paper money and coins that is circulating on the economy, leaving the shops without proper exchange to give to the clients.

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    So I'm confused. If I sell some stuff on craigslist and the buyer pays me with a large sum of cash, is it now my civil duty to report them to the authorities? "Um yes sir, that is correct, I sold the man a vintage guitar and he paid me in CASH!!! I just thought you should know." Whats next. being put on the watch list when we deposit large amounts of cash as well. What a bunch of BS. I know its just a move towards a cashless society, but they haven't thought it out very well, now all of the people who buy drugs and child prostitutes from the CIA are going to be hassled when they make these large cash withdrawals required to pay for these services-this could really hurt the CIA's 5 year business plan!!! :-)
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    So I'm confused. If I sell some stuff on craigslist and the buyer pays me with a large sum of cash, is it now my civil duty to report them to the authorities? "Um yes sir, that is correct, I sold the man a vintage guitar and he paid me in CASH!!! I just thought you should know." Whats next. being put on the watch list when we deposit large amounts of cash as well. What a bunch of BS. I know its just a move towards a cashless society, but they haven't thought it out very well, now all of the people who buy drugs and child prostitutes from the CIA are going to be hassled when they make these large cash withdrawals required to pay for these services-this could really hurt the CIA's 5 year business plan!!! :-)
    No, I don't think that's the case. For what I understand it applies to transactions at the bank, when you withdraw money from your account in the amount of 5K or over. Further more, this measure has been going on for a long time with deposits or withdrawns of 10k or over in cash transactions.
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    NWO mark of the beast, is electronic pay cards w/your voluntary signature. Spend cash to keep that freedom open. Reason, people purchase and receive and then cancell payment also. I've seen some very obstinate people in my day, and unscrupulous is a flattery because they are part of the color priviledge. Don't agree with them, they cancell cable, purchases and move after they receive items or use others names and addresses, that know nothing about either. Use your cash assets/solid currency, as you don't have to pay someone a charge for a few clicks on a screen by machine.

    Don't cost you nothing to pull it out tour own pocket and you don't get overcharge fees.
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    The Bankster War on Cash; JPMorganChase Begins to Prohibit the Storage of Cash in Its Safety Deposit Boxes

    By Robert Wenzel, Tuesday, April 21, 2015

    Letters are apparently going out to some JPMoragnChase customers announcing that cash will be prohibited from being stored in the bank's safety deposit boxes.

    At the Collectors Universe message board, a commenter reports:
    Quote My mother has a SDB at a Chase branch with one of my siblings as co-signers. Last week they got a letter outlining a number of changes to the lease agreement, including this:

    "Contents of the box: You agree not to store any cash or coins other than those found to have a collectible value."

    Another change is that signatures will no longer be accepted to access the box. The next time they go in they have to bring two forms of ID and they will be issued a four-digit pin number that will be used to access the box then and in the future.
    Professor Joseph Salerno of the Mises Institute writes:
    Quote As of March, Chase began restricting the use of cash in selected markets, including Greater Cleveland. The new policy restricts borrowers from using cash to make payments on credit cards, mortgages, equity lines, and auto loans. Chase even goes as far as to prohibit the storage of cash in its safe deposit boxes . In a letter to its customers dated April 1, 2015 pertaining to its “Updated Safe Deposit Box Lease Agreement,” one of the highlighted items reads: “You agree not to store any cash or coins other than those found to have a collectible value.”
    Just last week, Citigroup's top economist, Willem Buiter, wrote a report calling for the abolishment of cash as a sound policy.

    Hide your wallets, the banksters are on the move.

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    How will will thel Clinton and the Bush Families continue to import tons of drugs into America then??? Without cash???

    What happened worldwide? Will the banks in the Island where every rich person divert their money be the supplier of non cash money????

    Yes, it is going towards cashless society, and everything could be track. Is it the wish for absolute supremacy that dictate to the rich to implement such laws?

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    How will will thel Clinton and the Bush Families continue to import tons of drugs into America then??? Without cash???
    Rules are for chumps like us.

    Besides, when the level of corruption reaches the billions of dollars worth that the Bush's and Clinton's are involved with, cash becomes inconvenient.
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    How will will thel Clinton and the Bush Families continue to import tons of drugs into America then??? Without cash???
    Rules are for chumps like us.

    Besides, when the level of corruption reaches the billions of dollars worth that the Bush's and Clinton's are involved with, cash becomes inconvenient.
    Agreed, yet they still have to rely on their distribution system, i.e. the small crook, to do the final step of marketing and selling. If they block their distributon network, they are not better off. Unless they decided to let go of drug trades, which I would be very surprised of, seeing the ways Afghanistan war has been supported and how the opium poppies are growing more than ever for heroin trade (again, the army being used for destroying its own country of origin citizens)

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    The Bankster War on Cash; JPMorganChase Begins to Prohibit the Storage of Cash in Its Safety Deposit Boxes

    By Robert Wenzel, Tuesday, April 21, 2015

    Letters are apparently going out to some JPMoragnChase customers announcing that cash will be prohibited from being stored in the bank's safety deposit boxes.

    At the Collectors Universe message board, a commenter reports:
    Quote My mother has a SDB at a Chase branch with one of my siblings as co-signers. Last week they got a letter outlining a number of changes to the lease agreement, including this:

    "Contents of the box: You agree not to store any cash or coins other than those found to have a collectible value."

    Another change is that signatures will no longer be accepted to access the box. The next time they go in they have to bring two forms of ID and they will be issued a four-digit pin number that will be used to access the box then and in the future.
    Professor Joseph Salerno of the Mises Institute writes:
    Quote As of March, Chase began restricting the use of cash in selected markets, including Greater Cleveland. The new policy restricts borrowers from using cash to make payments on credit cards, mortgages, equity lines, and auto loans. Chase even goes as far as to prohibit the storage of cash in its safe deposit boxes . In a letter to its customers dated April 1, 2015 pertaining to its “Updated Safe Deposit Box Lease Agreement,” one of the highlighted items reads: “You agree not to store any cash or coins other than those found to have a collectible value.”
    Just last week, Citigroup's top economist, Willem Buiter, wrote a report calling for the abolishment of cash as a sound policy.

    Hide your wallets, the banksters are on the move.

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    To me this is an indication that TPTW are going to initiate a shortage of cash to further control the population at large. The only thing left would be that you can't keep cah in your safe at home.

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    The Cashless Society Is Going to Backfire for the Establishment

    Joshua Krause The Daily Sheeple April 21st, 2015
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    There is nothing the banks would love more than to ban paper currency, though not for the same reason most gold bugs might like to do the same. If there were no cash, then the banks would have absolute control over our savings, and we would all have to keep our money “in the system.” Governments would probably enjoy this as well. It would make it so much easier for them to track our purchases and profits, and tax them accordingly.

    The desires of the banking cartel became perfectly clear two weeks ago when Willem Buiter, the chief economist for Citigroup, advocated banning cash to supposedly save the global economy.
    Quote The world’s central banks have a problem.

    When economic conditions worsen, they react by reducing interest rates in order to stimulate the economy. But, as has happened across the world in recent years, there comes a point where those central banks run out of room to cut — they can bring interest rates to zero, but reducing them further below that is fraught with problems, the biggest of which is cash in the economy.

    In a new piece, Citi’s Willem Buiter looks at this problem, which is known as the effective lower bound (ELB) on nominal interest rates.

    Fundamentally, the ELB problem comes down to cash. According to Buiter, the ELB only exists at all due to the existence of cash, which is a bearer instrument that pays zero nominal rates. Why have your money on deposit at a negative rate that reduces your wealth when you can have it in cash and suffer no reduction?

    Cash therefore gives people an easy and effective way of avoiding negative nominal rates.
    So basically what he’s suggesting is that by eliminating cash, it will make it easier for the banks to take your money. Right now it’s difficult for them to enforce a negative interest rate (which would ostensibly fuel the economy by making people spend money instead of saving it) because people will just take the cash out of their accounts. You can’t place a negative interest rate on money that’s hiding under your mattress.

    They really just want to make it expensive for you to save money. They want you to spend it all on frivolous crap (to keep the global economic bubble going), which means that at some point it will return to the banking system, where they will be able to charge you even more than they already do, just for the privilege of keeping it there. Rinse and repeat until we’re all debt slaves.

    However, these bankers really haven’t thought this through. They probably believe that a cashless society will work, because of success stories like Sweden, where four out of five purchases are done electronically. What they’re not taking into account, is that Sweden has a successful economy despite going cashless, not because of it. They have a cohesive society with low crime rates, good schools, and an excellent infrastructure. They would have been successful either way.

    But if they try going cashless in some basket case nation, they’re in for a rude awakening. I can already tell you what would happen in America. Unlike Sweden, it’s not going to stifle the black market, which is the biggest reason why governments want to go cashless.

    It’s going to strengthen it.

    The black market in the United States is a multibillion dollar economy. It’s been estimated that our black market may comprise at least 10 percent of our GDP. That’s a force to be reckoned with. That’s larger than the economies of most nations and corporations, and it consists of everything from drug cartels to babysitters. Do they really think that this powerful force will stand idly by as their wealth is forced into the light of day by an edict?

    Eliminating cash won’t remove the desire to save money, and people who work in the black market already don’t like to deal with banks. This will only serve to push them even further away from the legitimate economy. Instead of cash, they will just find new ways to preserve their wealth.

    In the years that followed the crash of 2008, what did fearful Americans buy to preserve their wealth? They bought everything the government doesn’t want us to own. Gold, silver, guns, storable food, cryptocurrencies, etc. These all went up in value. If this comes to pass, members of the black market will just put their money in real world commodities and untraceable currencies, because there will be no other options if they want to stay away from the prying eyes of corporations and governments.

    And unlike cash, which will occasionally find its way back into the banking system since people still need to write checks for their gas, electric, insurance, and water bills; many of these resources will never see the light of day again.

    They should also consider what will happen if every single transaction causes you to lose money. If just having money means losing money. This will make it profitable for the black market reach into every facet of the economy. Think prohibition, but applied to buying groceries and paying your rent. Everything that can be done informally, will be. This will in time, pave the way for an economy that is separate from the one we currently operate in. It will create a viable alternative to the system we’ve been forced to endure.

    Perhaps, this is difficult for us imagine because we’ve never experienced it. But in most cases the black market always finds a way, because the black market goes by another name: the free market. And the free market can’t be stifled in the long run. It will always produce an alternative to any law or regulation.

    Money has become intrinsically connected to everything we want, need, and do, so by removing cash and creative negative interest rates, they’re placing a tax on every day life. And if the black market does what the black market does best, it will create an underground alternative to everything we want and need. And I mean everything.

    The same situation occurred in the final days of the Soviet Union. Their dysfunctional system produced one of the most virulent and extensive black markets in history, and one could find just about any product or service there. There’s no reason why it can’t happen here. If they succeed in eliminating cash, their system will fade while the black market thrives. They’re too stupid and hubristic to realize that they’re fueling alternatives to their vision of the world, and sealing their own doom.

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    Contributed by Joshua Krause of The Daily Sheeple.
    Joshua Krause is a reporter, writer and researcher at The Daily Sheeple. He was born and raised in the Bay Area and is a freelance writer and author. You can follow Joshua’s reports at Facebook or on his personal Twitter. Joshua’s website is Strange Danger .
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