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    Abby Martin with Jon Gold discussing 9/11.

    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer

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    I knew we were being lied to when I watched that first building drop into its' own footprint.

    I knew we were being lied to when I watxhed a Lady reprter become physically ill, when they learned of the "Estimated" 30,000 to 50,000 people that were usually in those buildins at that time of day and then they told us only "3,000" people died.

    I knew we were being lied to when they saud that "Jet Fuel" melted those steel beams. Because i know tht jet fuel, is nothing more than kerosin and burns no hotter that 1100 degrees, while it takes more than 2,000 degrees to melt structural steel. And still molten metal in the basement after three weeks????

    Sumpthin mighty fishy!
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    What we are all finding out when you look at various subjects , when you
    start tracking them back they are quite often connected.GlassSteaglefan
    posted an excellent presentation on the ESF , which is one of those
    organisations that seem to have been behind many major events over
    the past 50yrs either directly or thru proxies. JFK , 9/11 , war on Aids,
    war on drugs , war on terror, Banking scams etc.....


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    Thanks for the post Cidersomerset. Great James Corbett report.

    The next listen was Rob Kirby by the SGT report. Rob Kirby points mainly at the
    ESF or the Exchange Stability Fund for the worlds troubles, which is a US
    department started in the 1940's that is above the FED, but answers to no one.
    Some Congresspeople aren't aware they exist. A real shocker. It puts all the pieces
    together in my opinion. The ESF was originally posted on Avalon in 2011, but
    received scant attention. 6 replies by 2 different Avalonians. But the ESF
    post/videos have since been updated and should be reviewed and watched again.
    Again, a real shocker. These five videos total 1 hour and 15 minutes. The keynote
    here is that the ESF gets exposed when the US currency collapses.

    The videos can be found at http://www.marketskeptics.com along with
    other hair raising blogs such as food supply deterioration caused by depleting
    aquifers. (a must read)




    The ESF and Its History seems to be behind many of the major scams from WW11
    to 9/11 , The war on drugs , Aids and much more.The implication is if the
    crime is big enough , it can be dismissed and no government organisation
    can touch them as JFK and many others have paid the ultimate price.

    Thanks GlassSteaglefan all excellent vids and although I have heard this before
    in various vids , it still makes my head spin and is basically how they have gotten
    away with this for almost a century. This has been reported in books and media,
    but not until social media has this spread by alternate researchers bringing
    parts up among bigger subject by the like of David Icke and others.
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    Default Re: We Were Lied To About 9/11

    Hello Siblings,

    What?... people in authority? .... telling lies ?
    I don't know how you could think such a thing.

    Conspiring with one another to engage in Satanic rituals ... okay.
    Engaging in paedophilic child abuse and child rape ... okay.
    Embezzling public funds for political bribes and political campaigns ... okay.
    Plotting to topple democratically elected governments around the world ... okay.
    Funding terrorists at home and abroad for 'false flag' operations ... okay.
    Training and arming mercenary armies of murders and rapists ... okay.

    But people in authority telling lies ?

    Have you been drinking the kool aid ?

    be happy

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    Quote Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
    I knew we were being lied to when I watched that first building drop into its' own footprint.
    That's me, too, sirdipswitch. I also knew the first day. A big part of that was knowing that Bush and his blood thirsty boys had just stolen a presidential election and I knew they'd do anything to distract from that. I also knew the corporate media never told the truth about anything big. Every piece of evidence that came in after that first day only confirmed my initial gut reaction.

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    Did you ladies and gents read the article yesterday or day prior,
    about the Iranian general making the statement that 9/11 was pretty much USA attacking itself in order to have a free pass to roll into the middle east.

    certainly very interesting times we are living in.

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    Aurelius, that is great information!

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    everything the government does is a movie , with a script , actors , props , all designed to keep the public in the dark , control the narrative , and keep everyone herding around like sheep ... hence why I call it the Matrix ... the old five countries in five years , the stock price of haliburton , offing the CIA operatives in the middle east , what better way to cover it all up than to make War and destroy the evidence and those tied to it ... Benghazi was allowed to happen , the gun smuggling to the rebels was covered up ... Hell our ET friends the plejaren say Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen so the military could test the atomic bomb on real targets ... they knew about the attack from Japan , they knew about the attack from terrorist , they used it all as an opportunity for their agenda ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    An old clip posted on Davids site today.....


    9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey claims 9/11 was a 30 year conspiracy

    new Saturday 2nd May 2015 at 08:34 By David Icke




    Uploaded on 9 Feb 2010


    911 Commissioner Bob Kerrey claims 911 was a 30 year conspiracy

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    Quote 9/11 what happened

    very good preview....

    Remote Viewing 9/11: The Official Trailer

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    Interesting discussion , I have eventually finished it , a few points
    stood out when Abbey said approx 22 mins in that she thought a
    plane crashed into the Pentagon , though she did not say what plane ?
    She thinks building 7 is strange and does not make sense. Then
    they both discuss how the 9/11 truthers have muddied the water
    and regrets some of her early reactions after 2005/6.

    I'm not sure what there stance is ? they keep saying we were lied
    to , then they say it was not a conspiracy. So it sounds like they
    believe the events of 9/11 , but the 'lie' bit must be the weapons
    of mass destruction in Iraq propaganda , and some other bits
    like an intelligence failure and the multi billion Air defence system failed .
    ( No mention of drills ) Her view were left unclear to me.

    I can only think she is trying to stay credible ? or that's what
    she believes ?


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    Published on 12 Sep 2014


    Abby Martin Uncovers 9/11 | Jesse Ventura Off The Grid - Ora TV




    Nothing’s off-limits with Abby Martin, host of RT America’s “Breaking The
    Set.” She certainly isn’t afraid to tell it like its in regards to 9/11: why is
    it that the liberal establishment questions everything about the Bush
    administration EXCEPT 9/11? Plus, she offers some shocking revelations
    about her recent trip to Guantanamo Bay. What questions do you have
    on the 9/11 Commission Report? Share them at
    ora.tv/offthegrid/vigilantes and help Jesse #UNCOVER911.
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    This is a better interview but she is interviewing someone else
    and is not her views.....Though he does not mention the 'Drugs'
    trade , which the Taliban brought to a trickle by 2001, and now
    under US military security is now bigger than ever , with lots
    of profits for black projects and others ......

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    Published on 10 Sep 2013


    Abby Martin speaks with Kevin Ryan, co-editor of the Journal of 9/11 Studies and author of
    'Another 19', a book that explores 19 alternative suspects that he alleges had the real
    means and motive to pull of the 9/11 attacks.

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    I'm still a bit confused on her views from the original interview in post 1
    and looked up some of her interviews .....................Still not sure ?
    She obviously knows the government and mainstream narrative does
    not stand up to scrutiny and as soon as you ask the question Quo Bono ?
    It was Israel , Saudi ,the mil ind complex, Drugs trade , Corporates , private
    security and other related industries and government insiders and cronies,
    Especially ' Lucky Larry Silverstein ' The Neo -cons fronted by Bush. Chaney
    & Rumsfedt.

    The people who got nothing out of 9/11 were the 'murdered' on the day. Osama
    Bin Laden , The Taliban , Saddam Husain , Dr, David Kelly , Robin Cook and many
    others.

    Abby Martin and Jon Gold know all this so I'm still unclear on their actual present
    view from the interview. They keep saying we were lied to several times. But did
    not clarify , what was the lie ? ...LOL . Never the less they deserve credit for
    discussing this subject in public.




    Dick Cheney: 9/11 Cover Up | Interview



    Published on 15 Mar 2013


    Abby Martin speaks with independent journalist, and co-host of Media Roots Radio,
    Robbie Martin, about the recent revelations of former vice president Dick Cheney
    lying to the 9/11 commission, and what larger implications this could have.



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    Government Allowed 9/11 | Interview with Sibel Edmonds



    Published on 14 Dec 2012


    Abby Martin talks to the Editor of Boiling Frogs Post and Founder of the National
    Security Whistleblowers Coalition, Sibel Edmonds, about her story as a whistleblower
    and the erosion of civil liberties in a post 9/11 America.


    ===================================================


    Ed Asner Breaks the Set on 9/11 Truth, the Hollywood Left, and Syria Intervention



    Published on 13 Sep 2013


    Abby Martin talks to legendary actor and activist, Ed Asner, discussing 9/11 questions,
    US intervention in Syria, the declining role of Hollywood's anti-war left and his charity
    work with his organization Autism Speaks.


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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    I'm still a bit confused on her views from the original interview in post 1
    and looked up some of her interviews .....................Still not sure ?
    She obviously knows the government and mainstream narrative does
    not stand up to scrutiny and as soon as you ask the question Quo Bono ?
    It was Israel , Saudi ,the mil ind complex, Drugs trade , Corporates , private
    security and other related industries and government insiders and cronies,
    Especially ' Lucky Larry Silverstein ' The Neo -cons fronted by Bush. Chaney
    & Rumsfedt.

    The people who got nothing out of 9/11 were the 'murdered' on the day. Osama
    Bin Laden , The Taliban , Saddam Husain , Dr, David Kelly , Robin Cook and many
    others.

    Abby Martin and Jon Gold know all this so I'm still unclear on their actual present
    view from the interview. They keep saying we were lied to several times. But did
    not clarify , what was the lie ? ...LOL . Never the less they deserve credit for
    discussing this subject in public.
    ...
    I'm bothered by Abby Martin backing away. Feels like a big loss. I wonder what Luke thinks about it.

    Also, she and Jon mention problems with certain individuals, like Alex Jones. I'd like to know what specifically the problem is.

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    Quote I'm bothered by Abby Martin backing away. Feels like a big loss. I wonder what Luke thinks about it.

    Also, she and Jon mention problems with certain individuals, like Alex Jones. I'd like to know what specifically the problem is.
    I was wondering about her comments on Alex jones and the alternate community, sure its full
    of oddballs , trolls and intel dis info merchants . But also many more trying to find the truth
    and discussing the real reality we are living in ? and who control it ? I presume David Icke
    and forums like Avalon may not be their thing , but she may express he real views on her
    own show depending how mainstream the channel is.

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