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    I must have been between one and two years old ... the voice in my head was my consciousness waking up for the first time ...
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    Quote Posted by delfine (here)
    SabreToothMom, you should read "Journey of souls" and "Destiny of souls" by Michael Newton. In these books there are lots of stories of what happens between lives, and many stories similar to your own. Souls do indeed go through a process of evaluating their prospect family before birth. I think you will have quite a few
    aha- moments, if you read those books.
    Barnes and Noble bookstore had both of those when I went there today so I bought the first one for now. I look forward to checking it out!

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    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...151#post902151Just wanted to let you know your not alone. Here's my experience that I remember.....
    Re: A warning from benevolent ETs about our future - over 60 years ago
    I sent you a message if you wish to talk. FraZZleD

    Sure hope that link works....lol. if not I'll edit and try again.
    Link went in the wrong place but at least it works now.......
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    Quote Posted by FraZZleD (here)
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...151#post902151Just wanted to let you know your not alone. Here's my experience that I remember.....
    Re: A warning from benevolent ETs about our future - over 60 years ago
    I sent you a message if you wish to talk. FraZZleD

    Sure hope that link works....lol. if not I'll edit and try again.
    Link went in the wrong place but at least it works now.......
    I'm going to quote your post from there, here - I hope you don't mind!

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    Hi Bill,

    In reply to your remark: "The reason I’m posting this story is to inspire and encourage others to come forward. Others have had a similar experience:"

    My experience is a bit different from yours. As I remember choosing this life and what goes on prior to being born. I was with a group of 4 spirits. We travel together in each lifetime, to help each other get through our lessons. We're all looking down at all the different lives and we can see the highs and lows of each life. (We don't know how our lives will turn out because of FREE WILL). You see as we come to each cross road (high or low) we have FREE WILL to choose how we will react. The reason for the "veil of forgetfulness". We aren't suppose to remember the highs and lows so we can continue on with our lessons. We choose the lessons we wish to learn. I do remember that if I pass my lesson in this life it would be my last trip here on this planet as a human. I also knew this trip was the most important trip at this particular time. Many spirits were rushing to get here! Something huge was going to happen in this lifetime. Something so amazing that all the spirits wanted to be here to participate. Which is why the world is so populated at this time.

    I chose this life and remember one of the other spirits saying "that's such a hard life do you really think you can make it? My reply was I think I can, I have to! The next spirit said don't worry I'll be right behind you I might be a few years later but I'll be there when you need me. And the last of the 3 spirits said "remember your not going to remember a thing when you get there. My reply to her was I've been doing this a long time I think I figured out a way to remember......

    At about 4 or 5 years of age my memory of choosing this life came back to me while sitting on the couch. The one thing I could not remember was the lesson I chose or why everyone was rushing to get here.

    When I was about 7 years old I asked my mother what a favorite number was. She said it's a number you keep for yourself. It can be your birthday because that's always a happy time. It could be your favorite baseball player like your sister has. I asked my mother what her favorite number was and she said 22 because she was born that year. Then she asked me what my favorite number was going to be and I said 38 really fast. She asked why I chose that number. I said I didn't know why it just popped in my head.

    It was a month before my 38th birthday I was getting excited because I was expecting something special, it was my favorite number. But the opposite happened. I totally fell apart in my bed while I was asleep. First it started with my thumb and back, then my right foot, then it moved to my entire right arm and last but not least it hit my entire body by my 38th birthday. I was in total pain from head to toe and when the doctors said from 1 to 10 what would you say your pain level was at? I replied a 15! It was more pain than I could possibly stand. It lasted for 2 long years before it lowered to a level 8 pain then 3 more years till it dropped to a level 5 pain and 3 more years till I found my own cure. It took me a year to learn how to walk again after the level 10 pain.

    After going to hell and back with all that pain I was given a reason for the pain. I was allowed the memory of choosing that lesson for my final lesson. (I saved the worst for last) I was rewarded in my sleep when I left my body and was allowed to see heaven. I was given a tour by a very nice female spirit. I saw the different levels, I heard the angels singing in the colosseum. I saw what I considered a hospital but nothing like we have here, where souls recuperate after very hard deaths. The angels watch over those souls till their souls get their strength back. I saw the akashic records or library. I went to the living museum. And much more.......

    After this trip I was given a dream for 3 days in a row. I was looking at the aftermath of 911 and I felt the fear of the world. The dream was the same each night till I wrote it down on paper after the 3rd night. I woke up in fear and could not go back to sleep after each dream. I had this dream 6 months before 911 happened. It was such a mess I had no idea what I was looking at till the day of 911 and I saw that jagged building still standing. That was the building I was looking at in my dream.

    About a year later after 911 I started to get schooled in my sleep. For 30 days my schooling went on with 12 spiritual beings. If anyone knows of a hypnotist I would love for them to get the information of what I was taught for 30 days. My roommate said while she was getting ready for work that I was talking up a storm in my sleep every morning and every morning I would tell her I was getting taught in my sleep. The very second I would try to write down what I had learned and it would be as clear as day when I woke up. The second my pen hit the paper my memory went away. Why would I be taught something and then not allowed to remember it?

    When I told my mother what had happened with not remembering what I was taught her reply to me was when you need it, you'll know it. Why can't I know it now? Does anyone know a hypnotist?

    The only think I can relate her remark to was when I was 25 years old my son burned his entire face in an accident. I grabbed him and rushed him in the front yard and kept the hose on him till an ambulance came. They knew I didn't make a lot of money and said it would be cheaper for me to take him to the hospital myself. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. They would not take one step on my property! So I told my mother to bring me the biggest bowl filled with water and I had my son dunk his face all the way to the hospital. After months of treatment the doctors couldn't believe he didn't have one burn scar and they said it was my quick reaction of getting his face wet that helped him not to scar. I had never had any burn training and I don't know why I did what I did. The thought popped in my head that fast and I reacted. So when my mother said you'll know it when you need it. Help to keep me ok with the not knowing, but now it's bothering me again. Which is why I'm replying to Bills post.

    There's so much more to what's going on and I have to work tomorrow so I have to sign off.........
    Will be back tomorrow.......

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    Frazzled,
    your post that I quoted above from the other thread has reminded me of another memory I have from a time before this incarnation... when you said that you were here to learn a lesson, I remembered this occurrence which I've even asked at least one of my older siblings about (they said no, this isn't' a memory from your childhood that you've recalled slightly differently or anything, it's your imagination or something else) -

    I remember playing in a small interior room of a building without windows, and there were many of us, like a whole preschool class or something - I felt very young and was wiht a lot of other children. It was very dark inside the building and there was one window high up on one door, and one of the older children got on their tip-toes and looked out the window and yelled that it was coming, it's time! And everyone hurried out of the smaller, windowless room to gather around the door and suddenly SUNSHINE!!!! The sun shined into the little square window and everyone went absolutely crazy with joy - we had been waiting all year for this ONE moment, this ONE small space of time where the sun would be out, and we all were so overjoyed it was FINALLY here! I turned and looked behind me and saw that someone coming out of the smaller room let the door swing shut behind them and I could see one or two children who had accidentally been locked in there, and they were standing at the window that was on the door of that little dark room, and pressing their faces against it and crying, begging me to let them out, and I looked towards the sun coming in the front door and back at them in the little locked room and then decided to go ahead and run out into the sunlight before I missed it and leave them there, consciously choosing the guaranteed sunlight for myself over freeing them from the darkness and hoping there would be some sunlight left for all of us by the time I got outside. The guilt was immediate and crushing. As I frolicked outside for the fifteen to thhirty minutes or so that the sun was out, I kept thinking of those children inside and the guilt and pain and sorry was crushing. I tried to enjoy the sunlight and the flowers that bloomed and died all in the span of that thirty minutes or so, and the grass under my knees, the technicolor beauty of the world around me, the sound of the birds and smell of the fresh air, but I could only think of those children inside. Finally I walked over to the door to go back inside and let them out but just then an adult came over to me me and scolded me and asked me how I would feel if someone did this to me, taking away my only chance for sun for a whole YEAR, and thinking about themselves and forgetting me. I began to cry and then the darkness came again and they ushered us all indoors and opened the inner classroom door and those children who had been in the dark were inconsolable, crying that they had missed it. I think of this memory ever so often. IT still breaks my heart so completely that it's hard to talk about. I feel as though I'm admitted to some terrible crime in the here and now.. except I think this is worse than so many "crimes"... keeping a child from the light...

    amazing how bad this makes me feel to write about even now.

    Anyway, I think that was a lesson I chose to learn. Some are shorter lessons, some are longer. That was a short lesson - I don't recall anything prior to that moment or afterwards, but I do recall feeling like it was an isolated lesson without a "before" or "after", whereas this life I'm inside of right now is an ongoing lengthy lesson whose purpose I do not recall outside of gaining experiences and manifesting love.

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    So your lesson here and now is show people the light. To me the light is the truth. That is what I'm getting from your memory.

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    I was just discussing this thread with my daughter and it occurred to me that I haven't shared here what happened when my oldest was 26 months old and my middle child was 2 months old (I mentioned it in a different thread)... I walked past the baby's room and saw the two year old standing next to his crib, and heard him asking his baby brother "Hey, do you remember what God looks like? I forget."

    That was over 19 years ago now but I've never forgotten it.

    (on a different note, the middle child who was the baby in this story is sitting in my kitchen RIGHT NOW telling me that he doesn't know how to explain this but he thinks he is having issues with alien visitation... he's got sores that these odd fiber string things keep coming out of.. he's concerned about implants I think... yep must be, because he just told me that while he was pulling these things out of his sores he just got a weird sudden impression in his head like "hey I put that there for a reason, don't mess with it!"... wow this is amazing stuff ... he's 19 for what it's worth... I may have to have him sign up here after I talk to him some more about all of this. He also just tried to explain to me how he remembers thinking with a brain that wasn't THIS brain, but got upset he couldn't explain it better... I sympathize, but think he explained it pretty well.)

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    Sores with fiber strings coming out of? That sounds like Morgellons...... Has he been checked by a doctor?

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    Sores with fiber strings coming out of? That sounds like Morgellons...... Has he been checked by a doctor?
    That's 'what he thinks it is. He's tried showing them to our general practicioner as well as a specialist he was seeing for another issue, but not a dermatologist. They say quit picking at himself and the sores will close, and the fibers are from clothing and towels. That is most certainly incorrect though. Our experiences with allopathic medicine are abysmal at best, particularly in the most recent of years. I found it interesting though that nobody in my family has ever talked of aliens before, EVER, and within a couple of days of me embracing Avalon my boy is confiding in me. Coincidence? Maybe.

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    Sabre, we all know there's no such thing as coincidence.

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    Quote Posted by Snowflower (here)
    Sabre, we all know there's no such thing as coincidence.
    Oh I know.

    Like, a couple of days ago after I had first been accepted to post here, I was out driving and I saw out of the corner of my eye that the vehicle in the lane next to me said AVALON across the back, so I looked at it directly and was confused because it didn't say that after all, it said INFINITI. Then I noticed the license plate holder said "STAR MOTORS". I just sat there laughing to myself at the synchronicity of my perception that avalon = infinity, with a side of interstellar approval via "STAR Motors".

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    Quote Posted by delfine (here)
    SabreToothMom, you should read "Journey of souls" and "Destiny of souls" by Michael Newton. In these books there are lots of stories of what happens between lives, and many stories similar to your own. Souls do indeed go through a process of evaluating their prospect family before birth. I think you will have quite a few
    aha- moments, if you read those books.
    I am reading Journey of Souls right now, am about halfway through it (which means it is now filled with yellow highlighter because for me, reading is a very active activity).... I am noticing that this is... how do I put it... very rudimentary/elementary/clinically swayed/spit out as if it was processed by a lower spirit form without the refinements of being edited by a more advanced soul.... something. Like how you can go out to eat but it could be world-winning chef-created, or it could be mcdonalds..... this is the mcdonalds version.... I don't know that sounds like I'm minimizing the information, or somehow saying it isn't GOOD, and I don't mean that not one bit. It's like the sesame street version for people who are only ready for that level of learning, may be another way of putting it... ?

    I don't know how to say it.

    This book is clearly memories from hypnotized subjects, not from people who outright REMEMBER. Which I realize is the only thing it ever claimed to be, so it's fulfilling that promise. But it lacks actual KNOWLEDGE.

    As such, there is more information there than I can personally access via my outright memories BUT it doesn't resonate in the way it should with me.. there are truths but they're so very elementarily stated that it's almost hard to see the parallels between what he's stating and how it actually is... you know?

    ugh again it sounds like criticism, I just can't say it right.

    I guess what I'm saying basically is "it's a nice story about how this doctor perceives the situation as conveyed to him by others who don't remember it themselves".

    which again fails miserably. I give up trying to put it into words for now. He may well get on with it later in the book, so I will reserve further commentary for when it's finished. I most certainly feel that if I went to him for hypnotism I would no longer trust my memories afterwards though. They seem to be presented in such a sanitized and molded fashion...

    UPDATED May 8, 2015 -

    Now that I'm further along I'm once again fascinated. I posted too hastily, and wanted to say that I'm wrong.. it's interesting, the things that seem overly familiar to me, I take one way... the things that I do not have a sense of familiarity with, I am more fascinated by. I wonder if that is a sort of mile-marker for me to go by as far as my spiritual development goes? Hm...
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    Just wanted to add my "welcome to the forum" SabreToothMom, and to let you know that I've been following all your posts and find them fascinating!

    Thank you so much for sharing with us!

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    Thanks, Joe!

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    Sores with fiber strings coming out of? That sounds like Morgellons...... Has he been checked by a doctor?
    That's 'what he thinks it is. He's tried showing them to our general practicioner as well as a specialist he was seeing for another issue, but not a dermatologist. They say quit picking at himself and the sores will close, and the fibers are from clothing and towels. That is most certainly incorrect though. Our experiences with allopathic medicine are abysmal at best, particularly in the most recent of years. I found it interesting though that nobody in my family has ever talked of aliens before, EVER, and within a couple of days of me embracing Avalon my boy is confiding in me. Coincidence? Maybe.
    Sounds like you were meant to be here if anything else for your boy. Glad you made the choice to join.

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    Hi SabreToothMom ~ Great thread, I started an "earliest memories" thread a while back and there's some fascinating posts in there. There's a couple of us who wrote of memories from when we were toddlers but most are memories of infants and a couple are from pre-birth.

    I sometimes go back to it just to re-read the posts, I've gained some cool insights from them, you might find them interesting too, link here, if you're interested.
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    Quote Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
    Hi SabreToothMom ~ Great thread, I started an "earliest memories" thread a while back and there's some fascinating posts in there. There's a couple of us who wrote of memories from when we were toddlers but most are memories of infants and a couple are from pre-birth.

    I sometimes go back to it just to re-read the posts, I've gained some cool insights from them, you might find them interesting too, link here, if you're interested.
    Oh! I meant to post there two days ago, thank you for reminding me (even though you didn't know that I was meaning to post there.. or didn't KNOW you knew. )

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    Quote Posted by SabreToothMom (here)
    Quote Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
    Hi SabreToothMom ~ Great thread, I started an "earliest memories" thread a while back and there's some fascinating posts in there. There's a couple of us who wrote of memories from when we were toddlers but most are memories of infants and a couple are from pre-birth.

    I sometimes go back to it just to re-read the posts, I've gained some cool insights from them, you might find them interesting too, link here, if you're interested.
    Oh! I meant to post there two days ago, thank you for reminding me (even though you didn't know that I was meaning to post there.. or didn't KNOW you knew. )


    Awesome, looking forward to your post.
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    I've just finally had time to sit down and finish "Journey of Souls" by Michael Newton. The last chapters were ridiculously exciting for me to read because finally he addresses the memories that I have myself, despite never having met me. I can't believe what a comforting an rewarding experience it is to read these recollections of other people that so perfectly match my own. It gives so much confidence to me to see that things I have always felt meant that I was somehow damaged/crazy don't mean that at all. I'm so pleased to have listened to my gut and picked up this book after it being recommended to me here!

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    I have memories of somehow coming from a tiny, infinitesimal point,growing to an awareness that I was and I existed.'' while in a dark but noisy, warm place, then followed a kaliedascope of images one after the other, faces, places, smells, tastes which went on for ages until I realised one day with some astonishment that I wanted a drink from my Mother and told her so and was gratified that I was rewarded with one.

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