Dr. John E. Mack

[Liis]

John Mack was a Pulitzer Prize winner and Harvard professor who came to believe that Contact was real. He died before Project Camelot was formed, but here is a great 2 hour talk about what he believed the Et/Alien experience meant: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5385914178771#
Sorry if you guys have already discussed this.

[mojo]

Hi All,
After reading the thread by The One, about, '62 children witnessing a UFO landing' and John Mack interviewing. I thought it would be neat to create another thread just about John Mack. I owe him alot since he helped me understand my own contact experience better then any other researchers information I came across. In particular the contactee Carlos of chapter 14. Carlos under hypnosis by John Mack shares a history of what he calls "visionary " experiences.
In 1970, Carlos was invited by an Angelican priest visiting his hometown to do a work of art for the Church of St. Michael's and All Saints in Tollcros, Edinburgh. On Easter Sunday, after Carlos had been on the island of Iona for about 3 days he had an encounter with light beings.
Interestingly enough, in my own encounters I have seen what he describes. I havent been on the craft yet, but everything else is very similar even the same type of light beings he sees, up to the bald white head. I have even seen the beings of light peer out the portals of the craft less then 50 feet away which made me me cry tears of joy.
Here is what John Mack writes about them from Carlos under one hypnosis session:

"The actual encounter, as recalled under hypnosis, began with a shift of consciousness after Carlos urinated and he experienced himself ascending to and in through the bottom of a ship in a laserlike tunnel of light. On the ship he found himself facing "a sweet little creature" who took him along passages on the ship. At the beginning of the encounter the creature seemed to draw him from one enclosure to another by reaching out its arm. Several types of alien beings were involved in his encounter. There were "little light creatures" like the one who accompanied him through the ship and escorted him down passageways. "They scurry round dronelike, very busy, and pay no attention to me" once within the structure, and they performed various functions. Their heads were round and white, with no hair, "like a bald person." He percieved their eyes as "bright, deep luminous blue," rather than black which is more commonly reported by other encountrants; Carlos explained, however, that the color changes, and it is not just a matter of perception. "The color has to do with communication and control."

I am not the only one experiencing this type of enounter. Many people worldwide are seeing and filming this type of experience that Carlos describes, and they may not know what they are seeing. I hope after they read the paragraph from John Mack it will help them understand what it is they are in contact with. Sure there are other types of contact experiences, but some may be like the Carlos encounters and if that is you than we have something in common. You may even notice the things Carlos describes in my videos, best wishes...

[Redtailhawk]

Here is an excerpt below on how Abduction and John Mack changed my life. It led to me becoming a research subject of John Mack's to management of his program PEER (Program for Extraordinary Research) funded by Lawrence Rockefeller.

"In April of 1994, when Abduction was released, I eagerly bought two copies (one for my friend), hot off the press from the Seven Stars bookstore in Cambridge, Massachusetts. I began reading the book immediately and found it most engaging, almost every word spoke to me in a way that affirmed my own feelings and experiences. Although I do not have conscious memories of being abducted, much of the content seemed to be triggering me at a very deep level. And as I read more, synchronicities began to occur. Just one month later, on May 4th, I was living in Northampton, Massachusetts. I returned home from a class I had at UMASS-Amherst. It was dusk, and for some reason I parked my car in the opposite direction than I usually did. I picked up my copy of Abduction from the passenger’s seat, and got out of my car. Immediately I felt the sense of someone or something watching me from behind. I turned and looked up, and saw in the sky 2 white orbs of lights just “sitting” there, seemingly staring at me. In a split second I thought this must be a plane, but, then I thought, planes don’t just don’t sit there. The lights seemed to be reacting to my thoughts, and I thought “Holy sh** this is a UFO” and instantly the lights began to dance, multiply, change colors and began to drift from east to west. I was beside myself, standing in the road looking up in awe, and clasping my copy of Abduction. Passing people in cars saw me looking up, and pulled over to view what I was watching. I ran in to my apartment and grabbed my roommate and her friends, who came out to watch. I particularly wanted Paul, my upstairs neighbor, a skeptic, to see this. Paul and I stood arm in arm tightly holding on to one another, watching these lights make dramatic displays of motion and color. They peaked out at what I counted as 22 lights. At one point I thought if 3 of the lights move to form a triangle right now I will know that they are in telepathic communications with me, and instantly they did! Paul said he would never doubt again. The entire sighting lasted for about 30 minutes. The erratic lights eventually settled down to 2 white orbs and drifted over the horizon. The local newspaper, The Daily Hampshire Gazette covered the story the following day, and my experience was mentioned...."

Followed by strange visitors:

"Returning home from my vacation on Martha’s Vineyard, I was at my office in Northampton, at the time I was managing a small environmental non-profit organization. Rarely did we get visitors, and so I was surprised when two androgynous looking people showed up in our office. I was busy with some task and these two people asked a couple of my colleagues if they could have permission to put up a flyer, and went on to ask, “is anyone here interested in UFO’s…” Knowing about my experiences 3 months prior, my colleagues all pointed to me. These strange visitors handed me a flyer entitled, UFOs, Space Aliens, And Their Final Fight for Earth’s Spoils. These two seemed a bit peculiar, but so was this whole topic. I read that the event would happen that evening on August 9th at the Jones Public Library in Amherst. I showed up promptly at 7pm. There were approximately 50 people in the audience, and a panel with the 2 I had met earlier. Little did I know, as I sat there innocently, that I was listening to Marshall Applewhite, the Heavens Gate leader, who would become famous a few years later for the worst mass suicide on U.S. soil. I studied them carefully; although what they were espousing seemed far out to me, I remained open. I thought for sure this would end with some sort of sales pitch. But the only pitch was that they were a crew from the evolutionary level above human, and this was a last ditch chance to advance beyond human. They believed that there were UFO’s that would be coming to pick them up soon and said there would be many more after that, but they intended on catching a lift on one of the first motherships. I was getting tired, and the library was closing and kicking us out. But before I left, I decided to go up and ask Applewhite what his ultimate purpose was, that he was not asking for financial support, what did he want from all of us. He simply replied, “nothing my dear, we are just spreading the word, and you are welcome to come along with us if you would like.” Obviously, I did not go! A few years later in 1997 they all committed suicide. Coincidentally, this was during the time of comet Hale Bopp, and the Phoenix lights, so perhaps they really did catch a lift on one of those ships.

I left that meeting with an overwhelming sense of how important discernment is. That somehow I have attracted a bizarre set of circumstances, and with all these synchronicities occurring, I felt I needed some sound help to de-brief, and help me to better understand this strange world of the paranormal I was now living in...."

These experiences and others are what led me to explore the paranormal and consciousness with John Mack. He is/was profoundly important in my life, like a father to me. He guides me a lot and shows up in my dreams often. Someday I hope to share some of the research I gathered after he was killed working with laboratory proven mediums and funded by the Mack Institute.

Light,
Maria

[MariaDine]

http://books.google.com/books?id=IZo...page&q&f=false

[mojo]

Thank you for sharing that story Redtailhawk. I would like to hear more about the work you did for John Mack it sounds interesting. Also thank you for the link MariaDine.

[Redtailhawk]

Here is a new website created for experiencers by the John Mack Institute.

http://experiencers.com/

[Redtailhawk]

This is a photo of John Mack taken in Vermont just 3 months before he was killed.

[MariaDine]

This is an excerpt from the two-part, 60-minute DVD.
http://www.thinkingallowed.com/2jmack.html

Psychiatrist John Mack discusses clinical case histories involving memories of alien encounters. He suggests that these cases transcend dualistic categories, such as reality/fantasy, physical/mental, true/false. He argues that UFO abductions differ from past-life memories, near-death experiences and satanic ritual abuse because of the presence of corroborating physical evidence.

John Mack, M.D., professor of psychiatry at Harvard, received a Pulitzer Prize for his biography of T. E. Lawrence and is author of Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-U1WecFObQw

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pz5RSAfwxGw

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pz5RSAfwxGw

[MariaDine]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U8Ibolcw8dw

[The One]

Great Watch

Dr. John E. Mack appears only briefly in this film, his death having occurred soon after production began. More substantial are visits to the New England countryside with experiencers, including one couple who videotaped an unidentified flying object hovering above a lake a few hours before they were abducted from their lakeside cottage. Also in this film, is the New York artist and alien encounter investigator Budd Hopkins. Although this documentary is similar to other documentaries commonly seen on American cable television, it has a more leisurely pace and gives more time for the experiencers to explain themselves than is commonly granted in US productions. One of the best interviews in the program is not with an experiencer at all, but rather with the husband of an experiencer, who matter-of-factly explains how his family has come to terms with his wifes experiences.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zBiJcEB9nPk

[mojo]

Hi The One,

Thanks for posting. The chapter entitled "Light Beings" in the book Abduction really helped me understand the type of ET's visiting here.

[The One]

John E. Mack interview to INREES regarding his work with "experiencers" or "abductees", "alien abductions" and our worldview and necessity to change it.




Source: Watch on Vimeo

[xion]

This is what you can call synchronicity. I was writing a thread on consciousness while you were posting this.
Nice

[buckminster fuller]

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[Corncrake]

Just watched those - thanks for posting. I have enormous respect for John Mack - an intelligent and compassionate human being. He was one of the first in a position of authority to stand up - risking his reputation - and speak out on the behalf of abductees and at long last give them some credibility. Although while agreeing that they believed their experiences did happen he never actually came to a definite conclusion that a physical abduction had actually taken place instead wondering if it may have been a spiritual encounter.

[sigma6]

A comparative analysis of the circumstances surrounding John E Mack's 'accident' in the context of other possible masonic 'campaigns'.

"The ridicule of these individuals and the dismissal of their stories has profound moral implications. A society cannot long survive if its truth tellers are rejected. I believe these witnesses are truthful, regardless of the fact that what they are talking about can't be true from the dominant materialist worldview. And their dismissal does make them a kind of suppressed minority. I began to see that the outright dismissal of the testimony of reliable witnessess was because what they reported wasn't consistent with the dominant worldview."

- John Edward Mack, M.D. (Oct 4, 1929 – Sep 27, 2004)
Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer and Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School.
(non-Freemason or ex-Freemason?)

Ever since I heard the story about John E Mack getting killed by a 'drunken' driver, the story has never sat well with me. I have a statistical background (not that it makes me special) but it does make me look at things different then the average person. I can't help but create a visual distribution of 'event's in my mind... and other distracting things)

There are some interesting aspects to this story that I never see discussed or talked about. John E Mack was highly intelligent, credentialed, understood scientific methodology, and clearly knew how to diagnose all manner of psychological phenomena. He was also willing to go public and stand by his research. This made him a huge risk to the PTB. He was clearly making inroads, opening up the field, creating awareness, (just watched the Oprah interview - 1994)

Rare Dr John Mack TV Appearance Part: 1
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9-ufuNtpQd0

Rare Dr John Mack TV Appearance Part: 2
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cnZfM...feature=relmfu

Rare Dr John Mack TV Appearance Part: 3
https://youtube.com/watch?v=f96VP...feature=relmfu

and his book was an instant best seller (just before he died). The rate of his movement in the media could be described as fast becoming meteoric, as he began to establish a name for himself.

I would dare say that few could have used the typical standard techniques of ridicule and criticism on him that seem to work so successfully on the majority of people that try to come out. The man was a psychiatrist! The University went to great lengths to threaten him, to take away his tenure, to ruin him by destroying his reputation and character and after a great deal of struggle and legal battle he fought them back, barely surviving.

There was no question at that point he was perceived as an even greater threat. He could have made a difference. He could have brought this into main stream awareness. He could have presented this information in a manner that not even the scientific community could have refuted. He character was honourable, solid, his credentials were impeccable. His life was a testimony of scientific integrity.

What is also interesting is that the man who killed him has never received any [legitimate] attention in the media it seems. I find this strange, usually there is a lot more detailed information, [but in this case, barely a name, no occupation, no history, or context] etc.

[Update: we have his name and age (thanks bmdb) (which is an amazingly similar pattern as Lady Di's butler's assailant; approx 50 yrs old, Eastern European, not responsible for their actions, treated with great 'sensitivity and leniency' and minimal punishment - one has to admit this is yet another 'coincidence') I wonder is it possible, these people fit into some kind of demographic? is there a criminal element? i.e. more easily 'coerced' due to past record? paperwork or citizen status? which in turn affects their financial situation? anyone who is an 'immigrant' understands the subtle but different treatment I speak of. And unbelievably, somehow Mack's family was convinced that it was neither "malicious nor intentional" - again, when is that ever taken into consideration let alone 'highlighted' in a drinking/driving case? since when did the courts reek of such 'goodwill and generosity' ??? These people weren't rich, elites or super celebrities, able to sway the courts, they would have been perceived as 'nobodies' the kind of people the courts salivate at the chance to chew up and spit out. This just isn't how the courts refer to 'drunk drivers', they are demonized, disgraced and ostracized for their debauchery and irresponsibility in order to justify a heavy fine $$$ and a punishing sentence.

One would think the courts were given to some kind of heartfelt sentimentality. If you look closely this just doesn't fit. I also truly didn't know what the charge was at the time of writing (see other's comments), but this is exactly consistent with my theory. Completely out of context and unusual at the least, especially in light of the particular individual they just killed. When you're dealing with Freemasons from top to bottom (more on this below), can you really believe anything that you are seeing? there are good reasons not to underestimate how their system operates...]

In this most infamous case, we barely get the story that he was a 'drunk' driver, and then really nothing more [or very minimal]. Regardless this fact, given all the above information, the likelihood that after surviving and winning a vicious legal battle with the university, several TV interviews, and a best selling book on the horizon, and then just coming out of a UFO convention, that he immediately gets run over by an 'immigrant drunk driver'. This should be considered as a highly improbable event in and of itself and should at the very least be considered suspect under these circumstances.

The University showed that it was willing to expend considerable resources to try to take away his tenure and ruin his life, they weren't satisfied with just trying to ridicule him. There is no question their attack was pointed and vicious. By now we should all know that the upper echelons of Universities as well as Police Depts (and many other 'public' institutions) are controlled by Freemason Secret Society groups, etc. That is why anyone who tries to study paranormal phenomena, Bigfoots (genetic issue as per Lloyd Pye), 'pre-historical' archeology (as per Cremo & Thompson) or anything that would expose the truth about man and the true nature of his origins, is immediately attacked. Even though there are mountains of evidence bursting at the seems to validate all these phenomena. But these things just aren't allowed in their matrix. I don't think people can grasp just how pervasive these secret societies are today, how influential they are, how tied into positions of power, such that they are a form of underground syndicate, and when needs be they can operate as a criminal syndicate if they so please. How is this possible?

Take for example, I have a friend, who lives and works in the suburban part of a large city in Canada, and has worked for the Fire Dept for over 30 years. He is a typical 'white Anglo Saxon' a wonderful person by all accounts, (although I find he has this almost naive quality, but I will get into that a little later...) Anyhow, he knows about my 'conspiratorial leanings' and we have some interesting conversations on occasions. One time on a lark, I jokingly asked him why he wasn't a Freemason. At first he played coy, so I pushed it a little more and said something like "come on, there has to be some Freemason's where you work, hasn't anyone ever approached you?" and finally he admitted that yes! they had approached him, and he had turned down the offer! Even though I trust in my intuition and was simply trying to confirm my speculation, I was still quite impressed by this... So I inquired further... "Well how many of your bosses would you say are Freemasons?" Now this question confused him, and at first I didn't understand why, after all it was a straightforward question (or so I thought)... he was having difficulty and I kept pushing him and he finally said "how many? ALL of them, ALL the higher ups, as well as many below them are Freemasons..." That is when the implications of what he was saying really hit me. This isn't just 'an isolated incident', far from it. This is more like the 'tip of the iceberg'. Here is a guy who has worked in the presence of these 'Secret Society' types for decades, had been offered, and turned them down (much to his credit btw) However that means that although they may not necessarily perceive him as a threat, they still had to regard him as an 'outsider', not privy to their other 'business' for. Yet he works with them everyday, is literally surrounded by Freemasons who are essentially operating an invisible network around him.

There is no doubt in my mind that over the years there may very well have been a number of subtle mind control techniques they 'played' on him. Not so much for any nefarious purpose, but as a matter of procedure, in the sense that in all the time that he was working under those conditions, the information that he was privy to, never seemed unusual to him. He knew they were Freemasons, he knew how they employed questionable tactics in their 'self promotion' for example and knew enough to turn down their offer... but can you imagine what it would be like to have to work under those circumstances? to turn down the easy opportunities for advancement? to be kept outside certain circles? to be surrounded by people who maintained a second level of social organization right in front of your face each day? The more I think about it the more respect I have for my friend, I know he hasn't had it easy. Yet it never seemed to dawn on him to think further about it, or even to share it with us... even when prompted... there was some subtle tendency in him that he 'preferred' NOT to talk about them even though he would engage me on any number of other 'conspiracy' related topics... I have no doubt that they applied some 'systematic approach' on him over the years to create this... there is alot more to this but I hope you get the gist of it... these things go on all around us... and they ARE literally 'hidden in plain sight'

How many people knew that 90 to 100% of all Police Depts, Fire Depts, Governmental Depts, Administrative Depts of Universities and Hospitals, etc are saturated with Freemasons? Who knew that Building 7 was going down and a 'police officer' was heard counting down to zero before the collapse and that they were herding people away from the sight TELLING them the building was coming down!? Or have considered the implications of what this means? Most people will never know, they may have strange experiences or witness unusual events but simply dismiss them, unable to put their finger on what just transpired.

I hope that you are all getting the implications of what I am trying to get at here, these people are sophisticated, the purpose of their groups is maintaining secrets. Which in my opinion by definition is a form of Satanism from get go, because it violates the principle of truth from the start, not so much because they wish to exercise privacy, the most important element in the judgement of any crime is the intention, and we all know what their ultimate intentions are, besides self promoting all their friends into comfy government positions controlling the levers of power. And what lengths they will go through to keep those secrets (ie. in order to keep secrets one must inevitably lie and exercise all manner of deceptions) One is 'compromised' the minute one 'accepts' their existence, let alone joins them. And by embracing such beliefs one can't help becoming very adept at practicing the 'art of deception' while 'hiding things in plain sight'... they are absolute masters in fact, that is 'what they do'.

Now not to go too far off topic, but can you see why these types of organizations would be ideal targets to be infiltrated by 'Satanic' organizations?. And that is assuming they started with good intentions from the beginning which as I study more, I highly question that as well.

Now although this may seem a little off topic, it is actually the context perhaps that is needed to see what is potentially going on here... If my friend can casually relate to me that EVERY SINGLE person of position in his little Fire Dept, in an out of the way suburb in this large Canadian city IS a Freemason without exception, that's 100% ... how about the Police Depts? No question there, goes without saying, And clearly we have seen the Universities and how the attacks on non-abiding scientists who disagreed with the Carbon Tax scheme, (another elite money grab) were ostracized and demoted and marginalized, by whom? Those higher up in the University of course. And on and on it goes. How about the Administration Depts of Hospitals? Yep,again my mind has no problem extending the probabilities, my friend's direct observation is unquestionably the tip of an iceberg. An invisible iceberg, with it's remaining portion equally hidden... out of sight, out of mind, simple formula. I wonder if anyone has ever considered what happens when a secretive societal order reaches a level of saturation on this scale and gets embedded in our public institutions? What are the implications for the rest of us living in the shadow of this mafia network organization? Canada is a strong Freemason stronghold. Image what it is like in England? And where was the good Dr when he was run over? ... the heart of Mordor... London, England itself.

How about another example, take the Oslo Killer. A simple cursory analysis and some good research exposed the following about him. It was found out from his income tax he went from having no income to speak of to becoming fabulously wealthy from one year to the next, just a year or two before his murder orgy. He had recently moved out of some meager apt and purchased and moved onto a sprawling farm in the country. We know he was a Freemason. He has even testified on record that he was part of a Secret Society! Btw he used a technique that was witnessed in the Kennedy Assassination (ie. dressing as a police officer, who then changed into civilian clothing) (search 'Evidence Of Revision') The Main Stream Media was making claims of 'Islamic Terrorists' immediately after it hit the air with obviously NO evidence whatsoever (just like 911)

Our Killer was supposed to kill people and remove his uniform and blend in with the crowd, who would suspect such a clean cut handsome young Norwegian, while the media is blasting to be on the lookout for a Muslim Terrorist!? This has the makings of a staged event, magicians trick, or slight of hand (majik) I have even heard since then there may be indications others were involved. But something went undone, he obviously lost balance somewhere along the line. But no problem, back up plans were already well under way (his behaviour indicated he thought he was going to be 'looked after'...) We also know the MSM removed or greatly downplayed the information about his affiliation by the time it reached the MSM in Canada and the US (and other countries I'm sure) He was now no longer a proud Freemason, but was now relabeled as a 'radical fundamentalist Christian' (more slight of hand) (take note how after the initial 'distraction' of relabeling him as 'fundamentalist Christian' served it's purpose of deflecting attention away from the Freemason connection, it has now ironically faded away as the court case proceeds...) They also manage to avoid making any reference to his unmistakable financial records which would have been ample evidence of an entirely different story. And most recently they have 'dismissed' his claims regarding the 'secret organizations' he specifically admitted to. Do you see a pattern here? Are these 'professionals' dull? dimwitted? lacking insight? (or just following a different script?)

While I'm on it, another interesting bit, he even stated on the record, he "doesn't 'recognize' the court..." something only a Freemason would understand enough to say or 'Commercial Redemption' student might know about. (not that it would make a difference in his case)

Now with this context in mind, I hope to shed some light on what appears to be slightly hidden to my fellow forum members. Why hasn't anyone looked more closely at who the driver was in John Mack's death? or more precisely who might have been his handler? We were being led to believe that there is no reason to look too closely or ponder it too much. But closer examination reveals some evidence to the contrary. All I can find is a 'Police Officer' arrested someone and confirmed he was a 'drunk' driver? [minimal details] almost no context that would focus our attention on this man's past history, legal or financial records, character, etc. This does not sound like a randomly occurring event to me. Does anyone know or have a way to find out more about this driver? I would like to know more about this man, like those very smart people who did the income tax research and property purchases on the "Oslo Killer".

If 'they' identified John Mack as a threat which the record shows 'they' clearly did. And if they did want to plan his death. The highest concentration of 'Freemason operatives' would undoubtedly be in London and if anyone has watched Chris Everard's "Lady Die" - auto accidents are one of their favourite techniques for 'eliminating' victims. How difficult would it be for an 'enlisted' agent to have a drink or two before committing his 'crime'? It would be the perfect diversion, and provide a 'backdoor'... ie. to be essentially treated with 'kid gloves' by the same system that enlisted him? The perfect foil! as it completely misdirects the public away from any suspicion. (unless of course if someone decided to find out more about this 'drunk' driver.) The "alcohol on his breath" was a ruse, a cover, a clever bit of misdirection.

Combine that with the limited media attention on him but instead it is placed on the family, (they must have felt like they were under some kind of philosophical spot light, as if their character was being judged) ...this is how they 'managed' to ease their 'agent' out the 'back door'. Somehow a 'media vacuum' was created around the perpetrator, and the focus became how honourable the Mack family was going to be? Is this subtle or what!? Honestly, how many people suspected the possibility there could be anything more to it? how many already turned off the more critical thinking option at the key word 'drunk driver', as if that couldn't be easily orchestrated, what could be easier? Almost too simple, as all riddles are, after you have been told the answer..

The fact is WE know that this very type of thing IS very possible and there is (for now) absolutely nothing to indicate the above scenario didn't happen, and statistically, it is more likely that that is in fact WHAT DID HAPPEN. Repeat, it is MORE probable that the incredible series of events which occurred were NOT random as opposed to being random. If someone could collect the right data and crunch the numbers I can assure you that is what the math would tell us.

Can anyone find information on the driver? who was he? what did he get charged with?, what was his sentence? what was his past? his occupation? his affiliations? [past record?] where is he now? Technically it should all be a matter of public record right?

Thank you...

[bmdb]

Dr. John Mack died on September 27, 2004, aged 74. He was hit by a drunken driver late in the evening while on a crosswalk in London. The driver, Raymond Czechowski, 52, of Elstree, England, was later apprehended by the police and entered a plea of guilty “by careless driving whilst under the influence of alcohol”.

Dr. Mack's family wrote to the Crown Court asking for leniency. "Although this was a tragic event for our family, we feel Mr. Czechowski's behavior was neither malicious nor intentional, and we have no ill will toward him since we learned of the circumstances of the collision,” the letter said. “We have had several talks as a family over the past year, and especially during these past few weeks as we anticipate the time for sentencing, and we all believe John Mack would not want Mr. Czechowski to go to jail. As for ourselves, our grief will not be lessened by knowing that he is incarcerated – in fact, we would wish that he not be.” Nevertheless, Mr. Czechowski was sentenced to a jail term of 15 months.

Taken from http://projectcamelot.org/mack.html

[gypsybutterflykiss]

Yea, was there even a driver? His entire death could have been staged.

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You must've posted this just as I was posting

Posted by bmdb (here)

Dr. John Mack died on September 27, 2004, aged 74. He was hit by a drunken driver late in the evening while on a crosswalk in London. The driver, Raymond Czechowski, 52, of Elstree, England, was later apprehended by the police and entered a plea of guilty “by careless driving whilst under the influence of alcohol”.

Dr. Mack's family wrote to the Crown Court asking for leniency. "Although this was a tragic event for our family, we feel Mr. Czechowski's behavior was neither malicious nor intentional, and we have no ill will toward him since we learned of the circumstances of the collision,” the letter said. “We have had several talks as a family over the past year, and especially during these past few weeks as we anticipate the time for sentencing, and we all believe John Mack would not want Mr. Czechowski to go to jail. As for ourselves, our grief will not be lessened by knowing that he is incarcerated – in fact, we would wish that he not be.” Nevertheless, Mr. Czechowski was sentenced to a jail term of 15 months.

Taken from http://projectcamelot.org/mack.html

[nearing]

I was always suspicious of his death as well. My gut tells me that the 'drunk driver' wasn't really drunk and was probably hired to do the job and was paid to serve a sentence.

[sigma6]

Posted by nearing (here)
I was always suspicious of his death as well. My gut tells me that the 'drunk driver' wasn't really drunk and was probably hired to do the job and was paid to serve a sentence.

I am sure he was 'drunk' ie. there would be alcohol on his breath and in his blood, there would be witnesses, but what does that prove? that doesn't mean he couldn't drive a vehicle and run someone over. In fact it might even make the job easier.