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    Default To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

    I’m not anyone special. I don’t have any insider information, or illuminati ties. I’m not trying to ruin anything or fix anything. I’ve never been on an ET spaceship, or had contact with benevolent ET’s. I’m not an abductee, or an abductor. I’m not conditioned by any alphabet government programs of mind control, other than the standard public education system. I don't have a blog or a website, or sell CD's or any books. I’m not part of any secret society, or fraternity, or psychological operations such as the Aviary. I’ve never had a kundalini or any apparitions at Fatima, or anywhere else. I’m not from any far off galaxy sent here to save earth or to fix its inhabitants, or to steer their destiny towards anything. I was not sent here by any dimensional beings or galactic council to shift timelines. I don’t own a whistle and I’m not a “blower” and I don’t need anyone to blow me either.

    I’m just your average working stiff who is a slave to the Babylonian bankster system, with an internet connection, trying to “over-stand” what’s going on. I have access to the same information that everybody else does, so there is nothing special about it. All the information I have gleaned is readily available, and does not come from any hidden source. It’s all out in the open, and here is what I have found…

    astral programs Matrix of sphere-Being Alliance Density Realm wakes up downloads mind control programming a dimensional rift chakra system pineal gland discernment filter to the positive timeline resonates with re-install decoded galactic community portal and stargate gridworker openings, ascension artificial grid lines, crystalline technology time loop positive or negative timelines the Matrix has Soul beings entrapped in the Pineal/Moon Astral programs Secret Societies Life force Parasites program to feed the astral levels Healing Conscious Co-Creators spiritual energies greater oneness with the Earth/Gaia “karma” cloned spirituality systems/hierarchies. Gaia connection in oneness Lineage Intuitive Intentions knowing and sensing into truth, dark feeling Secret Space Programs of organic time line military industrial complex DNA chakras Merkabah illuminati insider disinfo campaign dark forces collective unconscious Entity Attachments MKUltra, Monarch whistle blowers Galactic Central Sun Galactic Confederation Manifest Sphere Beings, cabal is losing control of the alliance Black Sun Order Cosmic Perspective rabbit hole Mind Controlled Channeling of the holographic construct authenticity Freemasons, The Alternative Community highly advanced extraterrestrials pure consciousness Raises the vibration Shadow Military Enslavement regressive ET's Annunaki Paranormal Activity White Hat Illuminati Plan Entangled Bloodlines Draco Reptilians Secret Programs Artificial intelligence Mother ship Loosh Collective consciousness Universal energy Highest Density ALL as A New World Order PSY-OP.

    Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.
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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

    I'm with ya 100%!
    Well said

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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

    Ha ha, excellent! But I think you mean “misoverstanding”, grip, in which case there still is one small issue.

    I don’t think you can step outside of that fat glob of info you’ve given us there. Rather than standing above or below, I’d say we’re standing right in the middle. We’re talking about our comprehension of our com-prehension, i.e. of literally how we are caught up in all of this. The internet connection only countersigns the greater oneness: we perceive our interconnectedness through our internet connection, and comprehension is again the watchword as together we take charge. The question then becomes, is this what we want and are we coming back for more; or do we prefer smashing things and splintering people, and where do we go to get more of that now that it’s no longer working here?


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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper



    I feel totally overbuzzworded.
    "The total number of minds in the universe is one." - Erwin Schrödinger

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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

    Such a bold font!

    Now, where have I seen that before???

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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

    I’m special. I have any insider information, and illuminati ties. I’m trying to ruin anything and fix anything. I’ve been on an ET spaceship, and had contact with benevolent ET’s. I’m an abductee, and an abductand. I’m conditioned by all alphabet government programs of mind control, other than the standard public education system. I have a blog and a website, and sell CD's and many books. I’m part of all secret society, and fraternity, and psychological operations such as the Aviary. I’ve had a kundalini and any apparitions at Fatima, and anywhere else. I’m from any far off galaxy sent here to save earth and to fix its inhabitants, and to steer their destiny towards anything. I was sent hereby from many dimensional beings and galactic council to shift timelines. I don't own a whistle but I’m a “blower”
    ...and still I have a headache and feel completely unimportant
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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

    Nicely said A little point here, though, with a serious note (my appologies). Truth has many facets, and so bursts of real material and pieces of truth are in those subjects as well, I think that the message of your post, gripreaper, is nailing it since the issues at hand are being diverted and twisted to a large extent so we will not be able to look at things and see a clear picutre that leads to a correct path of knowledge. And this is the imprint (and purpose) of the earthly/non-earthly manipulators. Ignore the whistleblowers/insiders testimony, and you don't know or have any clue of what is going on in the more shadow/hidden parts of our world that have great influence on the upfront system - in this case we may miss our chance to understand the truth in depth, to take responsibility for it's creation and find solution. Our looking away from these chunks is in itself a fuel to the Matrix system.. (My theory - understanding the problems derives from an outer mutual process with the help of others, arriving to the solution -is an inner one and only then sharing with others)

    Another way of looking at this instead of completely turning our backs is with thick glasses which are as best as possible nonjudgmental but full of discretion. Smell and walk away from any 'essence' that do not gives any grain from which we can make bread. Stand in the observor mode and be able to see simliar to what you worded above - that it is mostly a NWO psy-op. But is that really an all inclusive conclusion?

    A tremendous amount of thousands of years were invested in manipulating the human reality, and in more modern times it is - secret projects, secret societies, mind 'managment', diverted history/ science/ education, genetics experimantation and isolation from the knowledge of any other life out there is right here. There is a reason for the madness of MKultral, soul entrapment, cloned spirituality, secret space program, life force Parasites, that helps to cover our potential ability to co-create with energy force and our conscious mind and aim for freedom for all

    The different non-homogeneous realities that is examplified by the different insiders, whistleblowers and such, even if distorted contributes in it's own way to the greater pieces of the puzzle.

    I read something this morning and would like to post it here, even though it may seem to have no direct relevence to the topic:

    Quote From Dispelling Wetiko, by Paul Levy

    The wound

    "There is no denying that we are in fact all wounded, to one degree or another, simliar to a way the car over the course of it's life accumulates dents in it's frame. The point isn't whether or not we are wounded; rather that the wound does not need to define us nor be a dead end, for it is in fact a potential doorway to awakening. There is a way to creatively engage with our wound that liberates the energy that is bound up in re-creating it while at the same time transforming our consciousness. As we decode the Wetiko virus, we midwife ourselves into our wholeness.

    There exists another possibility that becomes available to us, however, when we awaken to the wiles of wetiko; when our wounds comes up , instead of interpreting it as evidence that we really are wounded, we can recognise it's momentary appearence as the unfolding, releasing, dissolution, and dis-illusion of the very same wound that we have previously imagined to sustantially exist. In other words, we can allow our wounds to manifest in this moment as an evenscent, transitory, and self liberating revelation of what the moment before we had imagined existed in and over time in solid "real" form. We can awaken to the fact that the situation in which we find ourselves is malleable, fundementally characterised by a fliud and open-ended potentiality, and is therefore infinitely creative if we simply allow it to be.

    When we experience the self-liberating qaulity of our wound, rather than reaching backword (and forward) in time in our imagination, and creating ourselves in a solidified, limited, and problematic identity that is not fully healed, we simply relate to our wound as an impermanent, ever changing, and fluid phenomenon that does not characterise our true nature, while at the same time being it's momentary expression.Our wounds is an event that is only happening in the present moment and nowhere else; it is an ephemeral artifact of our present perception, existing simply as a momentary phantom of the dynamics of our creative process in this moment. This is to realize that we are not constrained and circumscribed by linear time, nor stuck in seemingly solid matter in the way we had previously imagined.This realization frees us from the mental straitjackets by which we had been imagining ourselves to be bound.

    In doing this, we are at the same time removing any psychic "Velcro" within us onto which the wetiko bug can latch itself. Paradoxically, instead of obsecuring our evolution, our wound has then "raised us", for the wound has been the very impetus for our expansion of consciousness. This is another example of what seems to be the problems actually bearing a hidden gift.

    Simultaneously containing both the pathology and it's own medicine, our wound is a higher-dimensional event which has manifested in our three dimensional life, offering us either a deeper liberation or a greater constriction, depending upon how we chose to percieve it. We are all potentially "wounded healers". The archetype of the wounded healer reveals to us that, rather than attempting to get rid of or avoid our wound, it is only be being willing to face, consciously experience, and go through our wound that we recieve it's blessing.

    There is a secret tie between the powers that seemingly obsecure our true nature and the very true nature they appear to be obsecuring. Our personal wound is, in condensed and crystallized form, the particular instantiation of the collective wound in which we all share and participate. The doorway to the deeper, archetypal dimension is not found by going around our personal process, but rather, by going directly into and through it. As if shamans-in-training, we are like psychic organs who individually "process" and potentially transform the unresolved , unconscious shadow and wound in the collective field. It is truly liberating to step out of the ingrained habitual pattern that many of us have of pathologizing ourselves, and instead, re- conceptualize our personal conflicts, problems, and wounds as part of a wider transpersonal pattern enfolded throughout the field of human experience. As wounded healers, we become transformed when we recognize that our wound is completely personal and uniquely our own, while simultaneously being a unoversal, impersonal process in which everyone is participating.

    This is the paradox: an experience of our wholness, what Jung calls the self, is both personal and transpersonal at the same time. When we get in touch with the deepest, most true part of ourselves, it is the part of us that is most unique and personal, while at the same time, there is a universal aspect, in that it is the same self that is incarnating through everyone. To experience this paradox consciously is itself the expansion of consciousness which initiates a transformation in ourselves, and by extention, the world around us.

    This is to paradoxically step into being a genuinely autonomous, independent being, while at the same time realizing our interconnectedness and interdependence with our autonomous, independent beings. It is this "shared felt sense" that deeply connects us with each other, cultivates compassion, helps us see through the illusion of the seperate self, and dispels the curse of wetiko. In a universe that resounds with the sound of compassion, OM MANI PADMA HUNG, wetiko's name is never heard.
    I said it will be a little serious , Araucaria's great response much more fit the tone.

    As a one who is non consensually chained to few of the titles above mentioned, I feel I can make an observation that all that gripreaper declared about himself is true,

    but one..

    gripreaper, that reminds me of the known aphorism - 'know thyself'

    : )

    Limor
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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

    The Illuminati /Cabal are always many steps ahead of the masses. I believe they were very aware of the implications of the Internet and risks to their secrets. If you want to hide secrets and confuse the masses it's clear they would fill the Internet with a mixture of truths,half truths, lies and fiction.

    Nobody knows or has all the truth we can only use discernment and balance of probability to help understand some of the stuff. If only half of it were true the world would still be a very different place if it was shared.

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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

    I always follow my instinct it seems to know far Better than my brain.and every so often things become so clear you know you have awakened to a new level of understanding and the feeling is awesome

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    As many have pointed out, there are elements of truth in all of these words and their energetics, and the implications of their manifestations, and how we are affected. We've talked about the message as opposed to the messengers on another thread, and yet, all of this shrouded in a context of credibility when it comes to the messengers, their motives about how to continue to survive and thrive in the Babylonian bankster system, while bringing a message of how to get out of the matrix. Seems like there is a dichotomy in there somewhere.

    Also, the context of the thousands of years of programming, the ability of a handful of nefarious interlopers who use magic to vampire us, and the energy vampiring system which is so completely engrained in our very DNA, which we at most times hardly recognize.

    Then, you have the software of this forum, which is wholly inadequate to archive and make accessible the discourse and conclusions previously reached, and a whole new set of questions arises and the discourse goes through the same path of the new purveyors of truth repackaging the same old truths for a new audience, with a whole new set of motives and perspectives, and attempts to add credibility to the message because of some insider of special experience.

    I guess I'm just getting weary of the cycles of the same-ol-same-ol stories and the same-ol "I know something you don't" because I have an insider or special experience, when all of this is readily available now and has been discussed "ad-infinitum" for several years. I've seen too many of the great posters here fall silent or leave as the new flavor of the month comes along.

    I notice a pattern when I post, that there are about a dozen people still here at Avalon who have read most of my 3500 posts, and have a context for who I am and what my perspective is, and don't need to go back into the archives. The rest will never know what I wrote in 2011 or 2012 because they can't, or wont access it. I don't want to start all over and rewrite the same stuff over again for the new wave of those awakening.

    Maybe that is best left up to those who want to be the purveyors, who want to sell books and CD's, and who want the notoriety which comes from being an insider or an illuminati member. If that lends credibility to the message, then so be it. My message does not have that.

    My message is this. We have been lied to and the lie has been programmed so deeply into our very DNA, that most of us willingly give our energy to the Babylonian bankster system while we point the finger at all manner of reasons for this system and who the perpetrators are.

    Everything about our culture is to agitate the lower carnal chakras of fear and passion, survival and sex, and materialism to make life more comfortable and pleasurable, within the current paradigm of scarcity, while the very essence of the higher brain centers and the ability to feel with the rest of our senses is summarily glossed over. The overlords will do ANYTHING to keep us from this ability and this truth.

    I'm not convinced that rehashing the problem gets us to solutions.
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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

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    Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.
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    I am nobody special either.. Even though I am a direct experiencer of some 'next level' $#/+,, right here I am with you at Avalon.. One can have all of the information in the world, and still do nothing,, I have seen it... Most of us here at Avalon are the type of folks who would love to have the right information so they can make better decisions.. There is a whole world out there that only seeks information that supports what they already believe. I guess there is a major difference between a 'belief' and a 'known'...

    And castles made of sand, fall in the sea, eventually... Meaning that those who eagerly research info to support their preconclusions spend lifetimes trying to justify a BELIEF,, and never actually KNOW much at all...

    It takes courage to admit you were wrong.. it takes some moxy to embrace NOW and Experience life.. but experience is the main difference between a belief and a known. It is those of us who are willing to work on ourselves and shed layers,, that will be able to readily know the difference between a belief and a known.... All of the information in the world cannot help someone who does not know themselves..

    I try and keep in mind that there are folks who are just now (even just today) realizing that the news is lying to them... We are all quite deep in the rabbit hole compared...

    It is about inspiration, and relationships.. Without these things, information has no real meaning... Kinda like,, I share my peice of the puzzle, and then you share yours...

    Avalon is a place where each and every one of us would like to know the truth,, not just the information... It keeps me coming back, every day...

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    Grip: I hear you! I seldom disagree with what you have to say, and the thanks button wasn't quite enough for your OP and post #10, also Lima's post #7. In the last few years the general verbiage, and adjectivology has become very confusing. Lately I have stood back, gone back to some general basics, and just this last couple of weeks it has been the voluminous wordage for the same thing that has been my focus.

    We have as you say "been lied to", yes we sure have, we have been lied to and betrayed, over & over & over again, and the wound is deep indeed. Whole civilisations traumatised and betrayed over millennia so it is a natural consequence that we project that deep wound out onto society. Jung said on the run up before the war that the collective psyche was projecting that war in their recollected dreams.

    So have a little patience with noobs and the oldies lol. I wonder if Paul and Illie could find a way of collecting the nuggets and place them in a kind of 'gold mine' idk just the seeds of a idea.

    Just to let you know i hear you
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    Thanks Gripreaper for taking the discussion that most recently took place here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...the-messengers
    ...to another level.
    My feeling about that other thread was that the subject is so central to what we are doing here on Avalon, it could hardly be expanded on too much, and because I was reluctant to see it end so soon, I added a last post to it here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post960040
    ..and I'm very grateful to see the discussion continuing in this thread.

    It seems that if we let go of the notion that we have a goal, and everything that we are doing is to advance that goal, and hypothesize instead that the process is the goal, and who we are becoming as we undergo this process, then I, at least, have a much better feeling about the way in which I spend so many hours pondering, analyzing, comparing, contrasting and then attempting to regurgitate something meaningful that might actually make sense to someone else engaged in the same process.
    Using the template that you have provided, I would have to say that the information from Lily Earthling here:
    ( https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...the-messengers
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post957667
    ...and elsewhere... )
    ... could certainly be construed as only the newest addition in the long line of whistleblowers whose information we have sifted through over the years, and as you say, it's nothing new for the most part.
    Although it does put us back in the center of the predicament which is: what can we do aside from this process we are engaged in to better our lot in this world?
    And the answer yet again, as we go around the spiral one more time, is that we must reconnect in the best ways we know how with Gaia and with our humanness, however ordinary it may seem to us.
    The dirt under our feet is ordinary, but how precious when we perceive it with awakened vision...
    What the Zen Masters of old used to say about being ordinary is simply...that that is the whole point!
    There is growth occurring and wisdom resulting from this process.
    I can see it in the posts from all the Avalonians that have become familiar friends over the years.
    Each breath a gift...
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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

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    This reminds me of an e-mail I once got from Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon, who sent me all the Echelon trigger words in one [very] long paragraph.

    "Ooops", he wrote me, the day after... "Maybe I shouldn't have done that."

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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

    Possibly that it is intelligence, consciousness, in a 2d holographic form, experienced as time based 3d, in the one angle of view.

    From that, the rest flows.

    everytin' be everytin'.
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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

    Does anyone else find that just when things are fitting together fairly well, and you have a better understanding and can formulate theories of your own, you find a ton of new or supplementary material which starts the crazy TMI cycle again.
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    Love it, Grip!



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    Default Re: To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

    Thank you for posting
    Maybe the OP has been reading "The Soft Machine" and doing some Cut-Up experiments Very Good

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    My message is this. We have been lied to and the lie has been programmed so deeply into our very DNA, that most of us willingly give our energy to the Babylonian bankster system while we point the finger at all manner of reasons for this system and who the perpetrators are.

    Everything about our culture is to agitate the lower carnal chakras of fear and passion, survival and sex, and materialism to make life more comfortable and pleasurable, within the current paradigm, while the very essence of the higher brain centers and the ability to feel with the rest of our senses is summarily glossed over. The overlords will do ANYTHING to keep us from this ability and this truth.

    I'm not convinced that rehashing the problem gets us to solutions.
    I'd just like to address this, GR, and this may or may not even be what you're talking about. I know there have been many forum members who have come before me, some of whom I'm aware of and some of whom I'm not. For example, when you were posting in 2011 I was golfing and drinking martinis thinking this was the greatest country on Earth godammit. And then something happened. And then something else happened. And then I read something, and then I read something else. Many of the videos and documents I have come across for the first time on this website I found out later were reposts. The member had just found another appropriate place to (re)present that information. So if that's it, have patience with newbies.

    I believe Ulli said something to the effect of don't get hung up on the messenger, continue to keep the message in mind and heart. And quite honestly there are only a few messages, not that many. I would suggest that the above qualifies, and is worth rehashing.

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    Let us never forget that we are all likely subjected to some form of mind control which may well keep us preoccupied in a never ending cycle of jumping from one latest topic to the next, but, going nowhere fast!

    We are in an information / psychological war with the Illuminati / Cabal who's plans span many decades, they know that many people can be worn down when we wait with anticipation for some event to transpire.

    I agree with previous comments about having some sort of 'Guide to commonly accepted Facts' which may help to prevent recycling old stories.
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