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    Default The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    My mom died, my mother in law died, several friends died, several loved ones almost died, and several friends are fighting cancer.

    But the Elite never seem to die.

    I made this observation (on Faceboog) about a year ago, and (though I really abhor celebrity news, and avoid it), I would think that if the well-known members of the Elite were dying at the same rate as the rest of humanity, we would have heard of some deaths.

    Yes, they have the finest medical treatment that money can buy. Yes, they probably have access to hidden/suppressed medical/regenerative technologies that we common folk don't have. Yes, they have an unlimited supply of unicorn blood to drink at their black magik secret ceremonies (I'm not sure, I may be kidding about that one.) But why don't their body parts wear out? Why don't they croak? How old is David Rockefeller, about 150? Are they human? Transhuman? Repti-human (or some other form of hybrid?) Are they clones and have their real, severed heads all bobbing in a pool of liquid nitrogen with Walt Disney's?

    I would rather the Elite figure out the error of their ways, repent, become cured of sociopathy/psychopathy... but the likelihood of that is about 0.0000000000000001%, so maybe the best thing they could do for humanity would be to take a dirt nap already.

    But, they just don't seem to die.

    Has anyone else noticed this?


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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    In the Bible they were all living hundreds of years
    D Rockefeller is 92 or so and currently putting the clamps on the hemp business

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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    They die.
    I met two members, Averell Harriman and his wife Pamela.
    He was in his nineties when I met him, and nearly deaf,
    and Pamala had to scream into his ear.
    He had three nurses attending him, rotating over 24 hours.

    Pamela lived a little longer. Clinton appointed her as ambassador to France where she died of a heart attack in the pool of the Ritz Hotel.
    I found out much later that he was an original member of MJ 12.
    She was an elite insider from early on.
    In WW2 she was living in London, married to the son of Winston Churchill.

    According to Bill Cooper:
    "The most important and influential of the “Wise Men” who served on MJ-12 were John McCloy, Robert Lovett, Averell Harriman, Charles Bohlen, George Kennan, and Dean Acheson. It is significant to recall that President Eisenhower as well as the first six MJ-12 members from government state departments were also members of the Council on Foreign Relations. Thorough researchers will soon discover that not all the “Wise Men” attended Harvard or Yale and not all of them were chosen from “Skull and Bones” or “Scroll and Key” memberships during their college years."

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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    Haha! Whew, lol

    *wipes tears*

    Dennis, there was another writer whose life was much too short, named (d'oh my obsession) Frank Herbert; he dealt pretty extensively with this issue in his short novel "The Eyes of Heisenberg".

    In this dystopian novel, the space race has been utterly suppressed, and Seatac has become the center of the modern world many hundreds of thousands of years into the future (here on earth). and in this novel, earth is run by a caste of "immortals" called the "The Optimen" -- then there is a smaller sub-class of extremely healthy non-immortals called "the breeders", followed in rank by the technicians (who are privy to many of the secrets of the Optimen but more limited than the breeders), and finally, the working class made up of non-breeding "sterries" or sterile humans, who have been genetically "cut" at conception to prevent fertility.

    all in all a pretty messed up book.

    but to get to the point,
    eventually the Optimen make a mistake.
    in an attempt to "rebalance" their own grip on power over the rest of the humans,
    they set into motion a chain of events that ultimately affects their immortality, by stressing themselves out too much.

    they decide to depopulate Seatac and make the error of watching it play out on live closed circuit tv. which destroys their impossibly fragile metabolisms and causes a mass suicide in the Optimen living quarters...

    only when a pair of breeders, aided by a serious if not friendly cyborg also hungry for freedom from the Optimen, offers a compromise between the sterries, breeders, and optimen, do things improve.

    it's all in all a tragedy of errors where the common man comes out on top, with the help of a computer. lol







    Frank put a lot of the eggs from his baskets into the one labelled "space race",
    and i hope that future remains promising and open for all. to avoid the hellish scenario in "The Eyes of Heisenberg".




    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eyes_of_Heisenberg



    Quote The Eyes of Heisenberg is a 1966 science fiction novel by Frank Herbert. Originally serialized as Heisenberg's Eyes in Galaxy magazine between June and August 1966, it was issued by Berkley in the same year. The title refers to Werner Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, here applied both on the molecular (genetic) level (producing the atypical embryo the story hinges on) and on a macro, societal level.


    The short novel takes places in an initially unspecified future in which society is rigidly stratified into two genetic and reproductive classes: the "Optimen" (who include women) and the "Folk." All humans are mandatorily genetically reviewed and modified ("cut") just after conception by surgeons answering to the Optimen, a ruling class of genetically superior humans.

    The Optimen are distinguished by genetic excellence, but also by a unique vocation; their metabolisms are such that treatment with the life-extension enzymes available to most members of the society instead induces true biological immortality. The Optimen exercise absolute dictatorial control over Earth from an enclave in North America. They hold global society in stasis, both politically and through continuous manipulation of the human genome. Only a small minority of the population is permitted to reproduce, and that only under strict supervision - the vast majority of the Folk are "Sterries," kept sterile through an ever-present prophylactic gas. The Optimen are naturally sterile.

    The Folk revere the Optimen with a quasi-religious fervor, centered on the mantra "They are the power that loves us and protects us." The adulation is however not universal; an anti-Optiman resistance exists, in the form of the "Parents Underground" and the "Couriers," both networks sponsored by the Cyborgs, mechanically enhanced humans long opposed to the immortals.

    As the story unfolds, the setting - which had seemed a relatively near future, perhaps a few centuries at most - is revealed to be at least 80,000 years distant (the age given for the oldest Optimen). The extraordinary control of the Optimen is such that late 21st century life has been the norm for millennia.

    It is noted that the Optimen have deliberately stunted technological progress. The Cyborgs are implied to be rather long-lived themselves - an Optiman-Cyborg War is briefly mentioned, and it is implied as having taken place in the quite distant past, but it is elsewhere stated that this was no more than three Cyborg generations ago.

    Most of the book takes place in the "Seatac Megalopolis" - apparently incorporating present-day Seattle and Tacoma - and the Optiman enclave.

    see also:
    Quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_%28novel%29



    Friday is a 1982 science fiction novel and early cyberpunk[citation needed] by Robert A. Heinlein. It is the story of a female "artificial person", the eponymous Friday, genetically engineered to be stronger, faster, smarter, and generally better than normal humans. Artificial humans are widely resented, and much of the story deals with Friday's struggle both against prejudice and to conceal her enhanced attributes from other humans. The story is set in a Balkanized world, in which the nations of the North American continent have been split up into a number of smaller states.

    Friday was nominated for the Nebula Award for Best Novel in 1982,[1] and the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 1983.[2]

    The book's protagonist is Friday Baldwin, an artificial person both mentally and physically superior in many ways to an ordinary human, but she faces great prejudice and will most likely be killed if her "non-human" status is discovered.

    Employed as a highly self-sufficient combat courier, her various missions take her across the globe and also to some of the near-Earth space colonies. The novel is set in a complex, Balkanized world, and Friday is caught up in several civil disturbances during the course of her travels. She reaches her employer's home base safely, but is soon displaced. Sent on a space journey as a courier, she realizes that the journey is likely to end with her death, evades the ship's authorities, and settles on a pioneer world with friends made earlier in the narrative.












    ...Dennis, altho your thread is fiery flames, don't feel bad for asking because other people asked the same thing.




    edit: argh, was posting at same time that the other two did, sorry about that,
    i liked both of your posts too
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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    David Rockefeller has had something like seven heart transplants.

    SEVEN

    Freaky.

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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    I've definitely noticed and wondered the same thing. When is Henry Kissinger going to kick the bucket? And George H.W Bush, Dick Cheney (younger, I guess, but what happened to his bad heart) and Donald Rumsfeld ? It's long past their time to fertilize and finally do something good with their lives.

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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    They have chosen prolonged incarnations so that they can do as much as they can here on Earth, meaning amassing fortunes and controlling others with their supposed power. It's always these sinister cranky old guys who think they can rule the world and they're truly afraid of death because it means that they will lose a grip of their earthly kingdoms. They have served their roles in order to keep this game of duality going on, soon their services will be no longer needed. They're not going to go where we are. Adieu.
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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    Quote Posted by awakeningmom (here)
    I've definitely noticed and wondered the same thing. When is Henry Kissinger going to kick the bucket? And George H.W Bush, Dick Cheney (younger, I guess, but what happened to his bad heart) and Donald Rumsfeld ? It's long past their time to fertilize and finally do something good with their lives.
    Soon, soon! I give him one year, max.

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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    They die too! Eventually!

    Unfortunately, not soon enough!

    But in spite of everything they have at their disposal, they too shall die!

    But not before creating a lot of havoc for the rest of humanity!

    And that is the current depressing reality!
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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    You know, I've been wondering pretty much the same thing.

    Recently, my girlfriend had some problems, and she was looked after by a friend. The friend's parents were loving and kind to her, fed her for a week, all without a word of complaint. Yesterday they were killied in a car crash.

    My girlfriend is gutted about it, and so am I. I've never met them but was looking forward to my next trip to the Philippines when I could thank them for their kindness.

    It seems to me that the nicest, kindest people are the ones who suffer, who die too soon (this couple leave several children orphaned). Yet the likes of Kissinger, the Bush clan, Blair et al just romp from success to success.

    Richard Dawkins is fond of telling us that "the nice guys always win". Well I think that he and I live on different planets.

    As I was walking to work this morning, I thought about the paradigm change I wish to envisage - it's one where we all live in harmony with each other and with nature. Where love and compassion guide our relationships, where greed, control, manipulation and hatred have not a scrap of soil in which to plant their seeds.

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    Quote Posted by MorningFox (here)
    David Rockefeller has had something like seven heart transplants.

    SEVEN

    Freaky.
    I wonder if he keeps the old ones in a jar? or eats them during holiday celebrations?... "Clarice... would you like some more wine with your sauteed heart, stuffed with fava beans?" ';={ ...I'll bet he even chooses the characteristics of each of his donors... elaborately having them stocked, all their medical information carefully evaluated before arranging for their "accidental deaths" or kidnappings...

    Of course they live longer, they don't do big Pharma drugs, they would avoid "conventional" cancer treatment, they avoid all the things they have contaminated the rest of the world with, their water is filtered free of fluoride and heavy metals, their meat is grass fed under chem trail free skies. They don't consume aspartame or other formaldehyde producing "Donald Rumsfeld" managed artificial pharmaceutical chemicals and they most certainly would never eat margarine, corn syrup, canola oil or any processed flour and sugar. They probably own their very own special fish farms, grown without chemicals or hormones. And they certainly don't take vaccines (just collect the profits) ...

    And the higher "ranking" members are consuming the blood of young murdered sacrificial victims... some who were tortured and skinned alive, for the extra kick of adrenaline, now that the "secret" has been publicized about it regarding longevity of "mice" in scientific studies...

    Children are still going missing by the hundreds every day in America and all around the world, and it's still government policy to keep the public as ignorant as possible regarding this information... since those who manage this information know who's extending them OUR credit... (poor ignorant saps)

    So of course they are living longer... they know how better to avoid all these things, because they are the ones either behind or involved in the creation of ALL of these things...

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    Quote Posted by awakeningmom (here)
    I've definitely noticed and wondered the same thing. When is Henry Kissinger going to kick the bucket? And George H.W Bush, Dick Cheney (younger, I guess, but what happened to his bad heart) and Donald Rumsfeld ? It's long past their time to fertilize and finally do something good with their lives.
    Given the amount of BS they are all full... they would make good fertilizer : D
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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    Planning for future generations, there will always be a groomed replacement for the old guard. Undoing the carefully laid plans may take as long or longer. I'm sure if there was a way to survive, anyway, some would take it. IMHO they are running late, forced into working overtime to fulfill the grand aspirations of former generations. The thing about making the rules is you can change them as you see fit. Life span based on net worth.

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    When you have no worries about making the rent , paying for hospital bills if you get sick , or getting the car fixed if it breaks down between paydays , keeping the electricity on , your house broken into , and knowing anything you want or need you can get without cutting into the grocery bill , you can live stress free and be much more healthy than someone who struggles with the daily grind of living in the matrix ... stress will shorten your lifespan no doubt ... there is so much to how we think that affects everything ... thoughts are energy , both positive and negative , the ET's suggest neutral positive thinking is the way to go ...
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    over and above the best technologies and nutrients, they must have cloned body parts, if not cloned bodies altogether.
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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    Maybe its the blood of children sacrifices that keeps them going.

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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    They know as we do the present time is pivotal in human history. None of them would want to die before seeing their fruit planted long ago ripen, which may happen in a few years time. Humans want to die because they do not want to suffer from the coming destruction of the planet and lives.
    The doubt gives credence to David Ickes theory which is not too surprising giving the knowledge we get from here Avalon.

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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    as if there aren't enough people to replace them

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    Default Re: The "Elite" never seem to die. Are they human?

    David Rockefeller is a month shy of his 100th birthday.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller

    Despite the poisoning of the planet, life expectancy is still going up in the general population, with lots more centenarians. France is second in the world behind Japan: I may not go all the way, but you haven't seen the end of me yet
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