Thousands call for the North of England to become part of Scotland

[greybeard]

The Manchester Evening news
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....become-9248178

Thousands of people have signed a petition calling for the north of England to break free - and join an independent Scotland.

The extraordinary demand - on the change.org website - would create a border from Chester in the west to Sheffield in the east.

‘New Scotland’ would see Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle and every other northern community ruled from Edinburgh instead of London.

So far the petition has accrued more than 6,300 supporters.

It says: “The deliberations in Westminster are becoming increasingly irrelevant to the north of England. The northern cities feel far greater affinity with their Scottish counterparts such as Glasgow and Edinburgh than with the ideologies of the London-centric south.

“The needs and challenges of the north cannot be understood by the endless parade of old Etonions lining the frontbenches of the House of Commons.

“The north of England should join the newly independent Scotland and regain control over its own destiny.

“We, the people of the north, demand that in the event that Scotland becomes independent the border between England and the New Scotland be drawn along a line that runs between the River Dee and the mouth of The Humber.”

One signatory, Alison Winter, who gives her location as Bramhall in Stockport, wrote: “Simple, Nicola Sturgeon spoke more truth to me than any other politician during the campaign, I just wasn’t allowed to vote for her. Always loved the Scottish, they’ve been kind to me, they put people before business.”

Chris

[Billy]

That one cracked me up Greybeard. Brilliant.

I can just see David Cameron's face when he hears this one.

[aranuk]

Yes Chris, what a state of affairs indeed. I can't help noticing that the SNP took 56 seats out of 58 in Scotland and we are to believe that the referendum vote in September went the wrong way. Despite these videos of fraudulent vote counting from Channel 4 News showing deliberate corruption of vote counting. I also remind people that in my street with 12 houses of different sizes and values, which is a rough guide of cross sampling across the country, no less than 11 yes posters were showing in the widows the Yes poster, only one No. Even that one no was outnumbered by the man's family members of which their were 3 Yes posters on his other windows. The streets of Edinburgh were decorated with a huge number of Yes windows and very very few No's. I certainly believe there was corruption on the counting of the referendum. Some wonder what the establishment can and will do to remain in power. Compared with 9/11 and all the false flags including London 7/7 bombing, vote fraud to the cabal is an innocent procedure. Nobody was killed or injured so it is ok by them.

When we Scots get our own true independence and get a government which is truly representing the people I would be happy for the North of England to join us and after that success maybe the rest of the country could follow. Maybe this is the only solution for things to improve. I don't really know.

Stan

[greybeard]

Posted by Billy (here)
That one cracked me up Greybeard. Brilliant.

I can just see David Cameron's face when he hears this one.

Yes Billy and Stan I feel the same.

The establishment laughed when the Yes vote lost by a narrow margin.
They did not seem to realise that they were laughing at Scottish people/voters.

We might be part of the UK, but first and foremost we are Scottish.

Nicola Sturgeon was impressive on TV and in person---she put the clearest case forward for more power for Scotland.
SNP policy is very humanitarian.

The Tory party want to spend billions on Trident nuclear submarines---- in this day and age.
If ever their missiles were used, or anyone else’s, there would be no one left to claim victory.

There are people in Scotland who are having to go to food banks to get free food and they (UK Government) want to spend billions on atomic weapons and continue making war in parts of the world we have no business being in.
Some Dictators actually keep stability in their own country---when they are disposed of, all hell is let loose.

That's my thoughts---I don't mind being wrong---laughing.

Chris

[Cidersomerset]

Well the map of the British isles has changed a bit over the last 2000 yrs
so why not ............



Post-Roman Britain

The Island of Britain AD 450-600



http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/Featur...BritishMap.htm




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Independence for Wessex....

[Billy]

I agree Chris. I mean come on, If a psychopath is going to push the big red button and launch nuclear missiles, it is the end for humanity and all upon earth.

Last year when the Queen came to Scotland and wasted a good bottle of whiskey to launch their new state of the art aircraft carrier built at Rosyth with fake plastic jet on board. Which is built just to annihilate yet another poor country.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...arrier-3849441

I wrote emails to Scottish SMP's during the referendum, tweeted them and posted on their FB pages. advising them that it would be more beneficial if we built state of the art hospital ships to help humanity instead of destroying them. Apart from one death threat the feedback was very positive.

[Gardener]

I couldn't agree more with the north joining to Scotland, I was impressed by Nicola Sturgeon too, firm resolve, and what seems like consideration for the plight of the people. Perhaps we could interest the people of Eire as well, bring back the ancient Druid ethos. Either way, a strong fence around Londinium wouldn't go amis, with guards

[Billy]

OK may as well go for it.

A wee song, Nicola and her sisters of change

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fUFff_42dzI

[sleepydumpling]

if MPs started putting people first I for one would support them 100%
it is amazing how the MPs claim there is no money and we need austerity, forcing more and more people to use food banks
and struggling to get by.
Yet as soon as another fabricated threat is made up, as if by magic suddenly billions of pounds appear to fund wars.

[LoneWolf76]

Posted by aranuk (here)
Despite these videos of fraudulent vote counting from Channel 4 News showing deliberate corruption of vote counting.
Stan

Yeah, I remember the videos, there were quite a few from different area. And if these were the ones who were caught (even if nothing happened after), imagine how many were not.

I suspect this was also the case in the recent national election.

This caught my eye today...
Socialist gets NO votes, despite voting for himself, and more than likely his family members too ...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-angry-5703584

[mosquito]

I've already more or less made up my mind to apply for Scottish nationality sould they become independent. Not sure how straightforward it would be though.

Of course, if the North of England were to join Scotland, there's a possibility that the good folk would eventually learn that it's possible to support a non-Glaswegian football team

From Gardener:

... a strong fence around Londinium wouldn't go amis, with guards

An excellent idea !

[Mike Gorman]

You could really take this to its logical conclusion and have every household as a sovereign state - then each person. People are becoming overtly anxious to claim separateness. The U.K is very tribal, but 6,300 people is not very many compared to the 60+ millions that eek out their living in the dis-united Kingdom. Identity, allegiance to clans are strong parts of people, but this is not very helpful - as indigenous inhabitants of Earth we seek ways to be angry and disgruntled with each other, to prove our differences and assert our 'unique' natures. Meh, give it up already.

[Cidersomerset]

Article form Davids headline page....

Thousands sign petition calling for north of England to be part of Scotland

new Saturday 16th May 2015 at 07:34 By David Icke





‘More than 12,000 people have signed a petition demanding the north of
England break away from the “London-centric south” and join a new Scotland.

The petition says the northern English cities “feel far greater affinity with their
Scottish counterparts such as Glasgow and Edinburgh than with the ideologies
of the London-centric south” and demands secession from the UK.

Signatures to the Change.org petition were rising rapidly on Thursday before a
visit to Manchester by George Osborne, the chancellor, and the only MP in the
new Conservative cabinet with a northern English constituency.’

Read more: Thousands sign petition calling for north of England to be part of Scotland

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/t...rt-of-scotland

[Billy]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
Article form Davids headline page....

Thousands sign petition calling for north of England to be part of Scotland

new Saturday 16th May 2015 at 07:34 By David Icke

‘More than 12,000 people have signed a petition demanding the north of
England break away from the “London-centric south” and join a new Scotland.

Signatures to the Change.org petition were rising rapidly on Thursday before a
visit to Manchester by George Osborne,

I am not sure if there is a target before the petition is handed into no10, but 36,014 have now signed and rising rapidly. (60more since writing this post)
https://www.change.org/p/the-uk-gove...-join-scotland

The Scottish issue is not about separation from England, We are all brothers and sisters struggling to survive under the same controllers. It is about cutting the strings of the psychopathic war mongering puppet masters that control the puppets in Westminster. As David Icke said in a recent video. It does not matter if you are Governed by Tories or Labour, the puppet masters agenda still continues. Last week Scotland managed a huge leap towards snipping those strings.

I just hope that the new kid on the block, the SNP and Nicola do not become infiltrated by the same masters, and history repeats itself yet again.

[Cidersomerset]

I just hope that the new kid on the block, the SNP and Nicola do not
become infiltrated by the same masters, and history repeats itself yet again.

If I was a conspiracy theorist , some things seem more than a little dodgy may
have gone on and with the power of 'MONEY' anything can be 'FIXED' even , Fair ,
Free ,Elections !! Although the Scottish predictions were pretty accurate and played
into Tory strategy.The mass rally for them in England , seems more than just a anti
labour vote , and it does not take a few bundles here and there to change the
whole picture .

Of course it could all be genuine and Nicola better watch her back and any skeletons
in the cupboard , because we all know TPTB usual have or will find something to
blackmail you with.







Of course the 'Banksters' historically have bank rolled all sides , what ever their
political persuasion . Left , right or centre..... Good , bad or ugly regime. Apply for
a loan no one refused unless you are genuinely a force for good. So Nicola beware !

[Cidersomerset]

Tina Rothery: "Evidence Of Electoral Fraud Is Being Ignored By The MSM!"

" 76 % of the eligible voting public either did not vote or voted for a party other
than conservatives "......She also points out a few flaws in the counting system
and how easy the counting is open to manipulation/fraud , and the fact all the
Candidates know the result before they 'pretend ' to be surprised when the result
is publically announced, because it has to be agreed before hand.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AYS1JwA9Um4

Published on 14 May 2015


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In these days of freedom of speech on the net who can we stop the mass's finding
out all our scams and oppression techniques. The 'War on Terror ' is scaring some
but many are seeing thru this 'psyop' . Lets go for freedom of information , that
should slow them up a bit , while we think of more 'dastardly deeds' ....HA ha Ha !!!

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Ministers want to make it more difficult to expose what they’re up to behind closed doors

new Thursday 14th May 2015 at 09:01 By David Icke



THE INDEPENDENT....



Ministers want to make it more difficult to expose what they're up to behind closed doors




Campaigners say the plan to overrule FOI would give ministers 'too much power'
Jon Stone Author Biography
Wednesday 13 May 2015

‘Ministers could be given stronger powers to block scrutiny of public bodies under government
transparency law, Downing Street has said.Speaking ahead of the expected release of documents
detailing Prince Charles’s correspondence with ministers, Number 10 argued that there was a
“strong case” for beefing up the ministerial veto on freedom of information requests.

“Our view remains – as the government has argued in the lengthy legal proceedings [regarding
the Prince’s correspondence] – that there is a strong case for there being the ability to exercise
a ministerial veto,” he told a briefing of journalists.’

Read more: Ministers want to make it more difficult to expose what they're up to behind closed doors

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10247231.html

[grannyfranny100]

I wish our government could feel the pressure of such a movement here in the USA. At the very least a "none of the above" option when voting.

[East Sun]

The people are waking up and 'they' can't handle it. This can be summed up in one word, "deception"--- of the people.

The mason black and white squares around the cops hats shows where they are coming from.