Best place in the world to live?

[Matt P]

I find myself saying something close to this to my wife frequently...
"If they make vaccines mandatory, where are we going to move?"

And then you can substitute "make vaccines mandatory" for others such as:
If they....
"take away our organic food"
"make gardens and water collection illegal"
"don't stop spraying my sky"
"keep expanding their police state and taking away my freedoms"
"try to take our kids because we don't vaccinate them"

You get the picture.

So I wonder, where is the best place on earth we could move to?

I have lived in other countries around the world but that was 20 years ago and a lot has changed. If I move my family to a freedom-loving, heathy-living spot in the world, it would have to have as many of these things as possible (in no particular order):

no fluoride in the water
ability and freedom to grow a garden and collect rain water and the climate for it
no forced vaccines
no atmospheric spraying
a community, state or country of liberty lovers
No police state
no gmo crops allowed
legalized or decriminalized hemp and marijuana
a country/state where a nurse practitioner and a carpenter can find employment

I found an interesting study done by George Mason University in 2013 that ranked the 50 states of the US for freedom but a place like I'm looking for may no longer exist in the united states corporation.

http://freedominthe50states.org/

Or maybe there's a hidden gem in one of the US states?

So, Avalonians are from all over the world. I can think of no better place to ask this question. What do you think the best place in the world would be to live healthy and free? If I can't dig in and fight for the life I expect here in Ky, I would gladly pack my bags and move to where I can.
What do you think?

Matt

[East Sun]

That may be a question for Bill Ryan. But things are continually changing so 'they' probably have plans for the entire world, eventually.

[robinr1]

I would preface this link by saying I don't think u can find what u are looking for in the usa...but this may be the best/ one of the better places in the usa....

a lot of young liberty minded folks have flocked there over the past few years...

https://freestateproject.org/.


new Hampshire

[Matt P]

Posted by robinr1 (here)
I would preface this link by saying I don't think u can find what u are looking for in the usa...but this may be the best/ one of the better places in the usa....

a lot of young liberty minded folks have flocked there over the past few years...

https://freestateproject.org/.


new Hampshire

Thanks so much robinr1! That's an impressive list of reasons for New Hampshire. I also watched the video of the Free State Project. I didn't imagine it would be that interesting but the entire thing was great. Just finished it. Here's the link from the site:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vxCNeK97_C8

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I had a huge post about Chile spooled up but I will let you check it out
They don't have fluoride-free water and food costs too much!!

[Kryztian]

I would guess South America, especially Ecuador, Bolivia and Uruguay. They are not highly developed economies that have given way to big, regulatory government. They have put the fascist Operation Condor behind them and yet it's memory isn't that distant, so there is distrust of a government and the conspiracy it can harbor. There is a welcoming attutude towards U.S. citizens, but a distrust of U.S. government and the corporations that run it. People there have figured out they don't need Coca-Cola and McDonalds, hopefully, that would also translate into a distrust of some other Western corporate "innovations" like big pharma and GMO/agri-business.

[ghostrider]

Ashville North Carolina , THE most beautiful , friendly , well maintained city I've ever seen in my life ... I've been to New York , Maryland , Ohio , Michigan , Indiana , Kentucky , Tennessee , Missouri , Kansas , Texas , Colorado , Arkansas , Virginia , West Virginia , Georgia , Alabama , Delaware , New Jersey , Illinois , Pennsylvania , Mississippi , Louisiana , and Nebraska ... Ashville N.C. is set around the Smokey Mountains , and is the most magical city I've ever been in ... they tried to keep the mountain natural and build the city with care not to disturb nature when possible ... at night that area is breathtaking ... there is something spiritual about that area ...

[The Lawnman]

I watched an interview with Joel Skousen and Alex Jones that I felt was done well. The author has lived in many places around the world and develops strategies for individuals looking to relocate. He even discusses foreign countries with their advantages and disadvantages which I found especially helpful.

I do not own the book but after hearing the interview intend to purchase it soon and go through it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EkWs5Doadq4

Strategic Relocation: North American Guide To Safe Places
ISBN-13: 978-1568612621
Publisher: Joel Skousen Designs; Third edition
Paperback: 348 pages

[Matt P]

Thanks ghostrider. Asheville comes up a lot as such a place as you describe and I have a family member that goes there a couple times a year for various types of gatherings. I've never been there personally but I do know they have fluoridated water (found a facebook page in support of ending it) and I know they're getting sprayed, just as I am in Ky. It does meet many of my interests, though.

Thanks The Lawnman. I've heard Joel's talks many times and have enjoyed them. I can't remember if he addresses geoengineering, vaccine legislation, gmo's and organic availability and that kind of stuff, though. I'll have to listen to some of the above again.

[betoobig]

right here right now...
... LOve
Juan

[Wind]

If you find a tropical paradise, with little to no corruption, no high crime and poverty rates, no tornadoes and earthquakes there then please tell me!

[christian]

I had emigrated to Mongolia, lived there half a year as an English teacher, came back because the new-paradigm projects in Europe were more buzzing and were something for me to get involved in. Despite the lack of chemtrails in Mongolia, despite the mostly organic food and despite the mostly pristine nature, I left that place. The people were nice as well, of course not that metropolitan, even though the people in the capital are quickly catching up. That was 600 miles from where I lived though.

Spent three months in Ecuador, about that much time in Spain, Portugal, the US and of course decades in Germany. I had a good time in all of these places. At the moment, I enjoy living in Germany, because many friends and all of my family lives here as well, and because I am not alone being the kind of new-paradigm guy that I am. Especially in Berlin, which has a very anarchic feel for a city in the Western world.

What I have found is that most important to me is a task or a purpose. I can endure many conditions if I feel that I'm doing something that does have a positive impact in my life, in the life of people around me and in the bigger picture. My very next priority after purpose is community. I want to be with at least some people that I can relate to from the heart.

Mongolia was kind of an escape from the Western world, but by now I just wanna make the best out of the limited time that I have on this Earth and be of service where I have the highest leverage, not where my ass is safer than elsewhere. In the end, I feel, there's no way but to confront all of the issues that are affecting all of the planet anyways. An escape to some place can only be temporary because there is no escape for humanity, just a do or die. Sounds apocalyptic, but then of course things are never as bad as they seem, and I mean that.

In a way, I'm happy that I haven't been born in some pristine, isolated location, even if there were lots of friends. I'm thankful that I've been born in Germany, cause there were always lots of things for me to process and lots of things where I could contribute to the creation of a new momentum. All these little things that I did actually mean a lot to me, and I think all these little things done by everyday people is what does turn the tide for humanity after all. Living consciously, finding my mental-emotional-spiritual stability in all of this turmoil and being there for people around me. I like that, for what it's worth, it definitely makes me happy.

[Guish]

Come here. Except that Marijuana is illegal. Google Mauritius and check out yourself.

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Posted by Wind (here)
If you find a tropical paradise, with little to no corruption, no high crime and poverty rates, no tornadoes and earthquakes there then please tell me!

Already proposed you except that corruption does exist.

[Wind]

Posted by Guish (here)
Already proposed you except that corruption does exist.

I remember your proposition friend, sorry to hear that corruption exists there too. I guess it does in many places, more or less.
I don't touch any substances myself, but for medical reasons I would prefer them to be legal. No tornadoes and earthquakes there?

[Sith73]

For me its Florida, I love the ocean and water. Its beautiful and sunny here.

[WhiteLove]

mpennery, in my view the most important is to just move to the best place you can find while you have the chance and while you are trying to figure out the best place for you - something good enough while you find out the answer. I would say Melbourne is such kind of place because you should be able to find a job there quite easily and it has been selected as the best city in the world to live. A place in the US would be Nashville, because it is very down to earth over there due to music being a strong influence on the city. When you select the city, please note that the political view points of the people counts a lot, find a trend curve that shows how the political opinions of various parties have changed over time and pay close attention to the top 4 parties and how they relate to the left - right scale, the farther to the right that average is, the less service to others, which basically means more division/exclusion, more capitalism, a less social society, more negative competition and lower happiness. A country that focuses a lot of its investments into the military, is one to be careful with.

[tnkayaker]

im sure you can figure out all one needs is a well to be off municipal water and what may be in there, i filter all my water anyways before cooking etc,zero water is a great unit, alaska has alot of clean flowing water and weed is legal there for all to consume now so there might be an option for you , christian has alot of good words i must say! ,i also ponder these same issues so i wish you well in your endeavor, peace dennis.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Christian thanks for mentioning Mongolia.
there are probably still some hidey holes there

China and its mining companies have changed the face of that country over the last 10 years.

I spent 6 months there as a young teenager, and this was pre-mining (well they had silver mines run by the gov I think and some old soviet ones no doubt).

Now there are more train lines, mining camps, etc. scary stuff probably.
My friend there tells me the division of wealth is very chaotic and has changed a lot of people.

15 years ago it was looking like a poorer European city in Ulaanbaatar, now I have no idea, probably more billboards and tons of cell phones!!!


I can't really talk about the details of why,
but it was a crucial time for Mongolians to define themselves --
we tried very hard to show them some American values of charity and education.

It was a really sad but touching glimpse of how poor, yet how very rich, a people can be, without wealth as we know it.

Mongolia is a very sacred place, "Land of the Big Blue Sky"

[Matt P]

Posted by Guish (here)
Come here. Except that Marijuana is illegal. Google Mauritius and check out yourself.[COLOR="red"]
Already proposed you except that corruption does exist.

Wow, I did google it and I'm impressed and a little wiser now. Thanks. What a beautiful nation and all the inhabitants speak english and french, which would make employment easier. I also had a look at the wiki page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritius ) and it mentioned Mauritius was a luxury resort location. Makes me wonder what the cost of living is there and how difficult it is for foreigners to relocate.

I was surprised to see this is the chain of islands where the US military base Diego Garcia is located. Oh my! I wonder how it is living so close to such a base and what one might happen to see. I wonder, too, if the military folks visit the other islands frequently.

Thanks

Matt

[lucidity]

Hi Matt,

good question!

Have you considered New Zealand ?
New Zealanders are friendly, respectful, respectable and civilised.
Very low crime rates and high level of community friendliness.
At least, that's what one of my relatives keep telling me, he moved there about 8 years ago.

However, they're (currently) very anti cannabis. And visitors to the islands are routinely
caught trying to smuggle (even tiny amounts) of cannabis into the country.

I'm afraid i don't know anything about it's vaccine, gmo, organic or police state aspects.

Of-course, it's english speaking.
So.. it might be worth considering this as an option.

be happy :-)

lucidity