Why China wants to land a spacecraft on the mysterious far side of the moon

[Camilo]

http://www.vox.com/2015/5/27/8662757...-moon-far-side

China appears to be planning a space mission to a place no nation has ever been — the far side of the moon.

The China National Space Administration (CNSA) currently plans to launch Chang'e 4, a craft that will carry the country's second lunar rover, in 2020. According to comments recently made by Wu Weiren, the Lunar Exploration Program's chief engineer, the rover will likely touch down on the side of the moon that faces away from Earth.

"We probably will choose a site on which it is more difficult to land and more technically challenging," Wu recently told the state broadcaster CCTV. "Other countries have chosen to land on the near side of the moon. Our next move probably will see some spacecraft land on the far side of the moon."

Since 2007, China's ambitious lunar program has already placed two probes in the moon's orbit and one lander on its surface. Putting a rover on the far side could provide new data on the moon's geologic history — and demonstrate the CNSA's growing expertise in and dominance of lunar exploration.

China's ambitious lunar exploration program

Though China began launching satellites and conducting other activities in space all the way back in the 1970s, the country's space agency has made its biggest strides since 2000, becoming the third nation to send astronauts into space in 2003. Since then, the CNSA has focused on a destination that NASA and other space agencies have mostly overlooked as of late: the moon.

In 2007, the CNSA sent its first spacecraft — named Chang'e 1, after the Chinese goddess of the moon — into lunar orbit. That was followed by the orbiter Chang'e 2 in 2010 and the lander Chang'e 3 in 2013, the latter of which brought a small rover (called Yutu) to the moon, and became the first craft to make a soft-landing there since the 1970s.

The next few missions will go even further. Chang'e 5, to be launched in 2017, will collect a rock sample and launch it back up to an orbiter, in order to bring it back to Earth. (Confusingly, Chang'e 5 is launching before Chang'e 4 because the latter was originally built as a backup to Chang'e 3, then sat in storage for a few years and has since been retrofitted for the new mission.)

Plans call for Chang'e 4 to launch in 2020. Though Chang'e 3 successfully landed, mechanical problems prevented the rover it carried from traveling more than 100 meters. If all goes as planned, the new craft's rover will be able to gather much more data — and perhaps explore the moon's relatively unknown far side.

The mysterious far side of the moon

From Earth, we always see one side of the moon because it's tidally locked: it rotates at the same speed that it orbits us.

As a result, we know much less about the far side (calling it the "dark side," while a bit more poetic, isn't really accurate, because it gets just as much sunlight). And because there's no direct line of sight from the Earth to the far side, landing a craft there would require all communications to be routed through an orbiter before reaching the lander.

But as difficult as it sounds, a mission to the far side would yield plenty of rewarding data. Though the moon's entire surface has been extensively photographed by orbiting probes — starting with the USSR's Luna 3, in 1959, and currently by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter — no lander or rover has ever documented the far side up close.

We already know the near side of the moon is covered in dark spots, which are plains of basalt that formed after volcanoes erupted billions of years ago and their lava cooled.

The far side is different: it has few dark spots and lots of craters, though scientists don't fully understand why. It may be that underneath its surface, there were never as many volcanoes, but that explanation still isn't fully proven. Chang'e 4 might tell us more, by collecting data on the rock that covers the far side's surface.

Depending on where the rover is sent, it could also provide some information on the moon's interior. The far side features the giant South Pole–Aitken basin — a huge crater in which the crust might be so thin that mantle rock peeks through. Data on this rock could help scientists better understand the layers that make up the moon.

Finally, there's some speculation that China might be interested in visiting the moon's far side and conducting sample-return missions for an entirely different purpose: harvesting helium-3, an isotope of helium that could someday be used for both nuclear weapons and energy production.

The isotope is much more abundant on the moon than on Earth, where it's extremely rare. And the moon's far side is believed to have the highest concentrations of it, because it's exposed to much more solar wind, which deposits helium-3 in the first place.

It's not certain that this is China's goal. In order to get usable quantities of helium-3, a craft would need to harvest way more rock than Chang'e 5 will be capable of doing. The CNSA, meanwhile, has never explicitly said that it's planning on mining helium-3.

Still, Ouyang Ziyuan, chief scientist of CNSA's Lunar Exploration Program, has previously mentioned helium-3 as a long-term potential benefit of the Chang'e program. It's conceivable that one reason for returning lunar samples and exploring the moon's far side is to collect initial data needed for this sort of ambitious extraction project.

[aranuk]

What about the so called Alien presence on the far side of the moon? Do the Chinese not believe this or what?

Stan

[Camilo]

Posted by aranuk (here)
What about the so called Alien presence on the far side of the moon? Do the Chinese not believe this or what?

Stan

I personally believe they know more than what they're telling us, and I think they're fully aware of the alien presence, and their interest in it must be way different than the posibility of doing some mining.

[A Carnelian]

I watched an episode recently of Hangar 1: The UFO Files called "Far Side of the Moon" which discussed some evidence that the US Govn't and NASA have been operating bases on the far side of the Moon (& Mars too). I had read of the Alien presence as well but now wonder what the real truth may be after watching this show.

[Gaia]

Dark Side of the Moon is a Pink Floyd album, not a place on the moon. The entire surface of the moon gets sunlight intermittently, similar to the Earth, except that a moon day lasts a month. Mining helium-3 from the moon is a fantasy. Although technically it can probably be done, it will never make sense economically. And there's plenty of stuff on earth to make all the nuclear weapons you want, so it will not be needed for that either. The only reason China goes there, is the same as for the US in the sixties: to show the world they can do it, and maybe get some interesting science out of it. The US has been there and done that, no need to go there again.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LmM1_BiuqXs

[Mutchie]

I personally think a lot more goes on ..on the Moon than ANY OF US can comprehend .. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on this forum and i think our moon is possibly a place where our souls get recycled then reincarnated ...Just recently i came across this guy on you tube Crow777 who has managed to prove there is Holographic technology covering the front side at different times it was quite something .....He watched for it for weeks then taped the HOLOGRAPHIC WAVE cause when it comes it on it starts from the bottom ....GO SEE IT YOURSELF it certainly made me watch a few times !!! You have to ask yourself WHY the Americans have NEVER went back i think they were Told not to go back ....Proud of the Chinese though i hope they do push the issue ...THANKS FOR POSTING Camilo

[hardrock]

Interesting thread on another site explains the structures on the moon as belonging to our ancestors from 30k plus years ago. They were mining the moon and doing all sorts of experimentation there. It's possible there could be gold there as well.

[Mutchie]

Posted by hardrock (here)
Interesting thread on another site explains the structures on the moon as belonging to our ancestors from 30k plus years ago. They were mining the moon and doing all sorts of experimentation there. It's possible there could be gold there as well.

Which site Hardrock i have done a few threads on here relating to the moon it is a TOTAL ENIGMA !!!!

[hardrock]

GLP...search on the remote viewing ancient civ thread. There's a guy there who has compiled all the questions and answers stated as well. It's definitely some interesting stuff, but apply your own discernment. A lot of it makes sense though.

[Lifebringer]

If this helium 3 is the power source of some discs, it makes sense to start researching it for intergalactic space exploration and travel.

[Lifebringer]

If the processing is done away from earth on the Moon as a filling station for craft, it makes sense. American commercial travel corporation Virgin had a few problems, perhaps the want the Chinese to get it started.

[hardrock]

There seemed to be indication that there were facilities for mining there already from our ancestor civilization who had progressed at least beyond where we are now technologically...So, a lot of the things people were seeing in these fuzzy pictures from nasa were true to some degree.

The story of the "alien" mona lisa found by apollo 20? was stated as fact as well, but it wasn't an alien, it was an ancient human being that died on the moon from a war that enveloped all of humanity at the time.

Supposedly there are still functioning buildings there, but some are off limits due to artificial life forms protecting them (no indication of how we found this out, i suppose the hard way).

Also, it was told that there was an agreement in place that moon exploration would be "put off" until a more stable humanity could understand the impact of the technology still there and its affect on our existence (I'm assuming if it fell into the wrong hands we could have an ELE).

It was also stated that gold was one of the most abundant resources found in our solar system, so with this "new" financial system and China's eagerness to be "THE" world power, I assumed that they had the whither all to explore for something that was not ancient tech, so to speak, so maybe they were interested in a mineral they could use to supercede the current power construct.

[sigma6]

Posted by Gaia (here)
Dark Side of the Moon is a Pink Floyd album, not a place on the moon. The entire surface of the moon gets sunlight intermittently, similar to the Earth, except that a moon day lasts a month. Mining helium-3 from the moon is a fantasy. Although technically it can probably be done, it will never make sense economically. And there's plenty of stuff on earth to make all the nuclear weapons you want, so it will not be needed for that either. The only reason China goes there, is the same as for the US in the sixties: to show the world they can do it, and maybe get some interesting science out of it. The US has been there and done that, no need to go there again.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LmM1_BiuqXs

"Dark Side of The Moon" has been around long before the album and is more properly understood as a metaphorical expression. It's true it's not literal because the "Dark Side" is referring to a metaphor for what is "unknown" or "hidden"... much like calling Africa the "Dark Continent" ...is a play on words, a metaphor... It's "dark" in both cases, and at that particular time period because of the "unknown" "hidden" characteristic, even a connotation of mysterious... In the first instance, because it was endless wild, and dangerous unexplored territory, and in the latter, because one side is always facing away from earth... hence "mysterious and unknown" = "dark" the metaphor for that which is "hard to see"

Nonetheless "The Dark Side" Of The Moon... is still one of my fave albums btw...

Also, I think China is doing it (either faking moon landings, or actually going there... depending on which interpretation you take) to put pressure on the US by exposing what they are trying to hide... and exposing their whole NASA propaganda machine, while promoting their own national propaganda campaign of unifying public sentiment with "awesome feats" of technological accomplishment. Which is what it was always about since day one.

[idiit]

There seemed to be indication that there were facilities for mining there already from our ancestor civilization who had progressed at least beyond where we are now technologically...So, a lot of the things people were seeing in these fuzzy pictures from nasa were true to some degree.

The story of the "alien" mona lisa found by apollo 20? was stated as fact as well, but it wasn't an alien, it was an ancient human being that died on the moon from a war that enveloped all of humanity at the time.

Supposedly there are still functioning buildings there, but some are off limits due to artificial life forms protecting them (no indication of how we found this out, i suppose the hard way).

Also, it was told that there was an agreement in place that moon exploration would be "put off" until a more stable humanity could understand the impact of the technology still there and its affect on our existence (I'm assuming if it fell into the wrong hands we could have an ELE).

It was also stated that gold was one of the most abundant resources found in our solar system, so with this "new" financial system and China's eagerness to be "THE" world power, I assumed that they had the whither all to explore for something that was not ancient tech, so to speak, so maybe they were interested in a mineral they could use to supercede the current power construct.

hardrock post #12

Mona Lisa, the Alien Girl Apollo 20 Found on the Moon
Friday, August 7, 2015 6:32

http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/...2-2493984.html

according to my ed research the human form is host to one of the more prolific alien life form archetypes; lots of different human type alien species.

interesting comment about gold in the Apollo 20 article I just linked; seems abundant. for gold to serve as "real money" in the new global financial system one of it's prerequisites is a fixed, rather limited supply.