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    Not what you believe but what do you really know that you can truly prove?

    The only thing I think I know is that I am experiencing this moment.

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    Curious, how do you prove that you are experiencing this moment?

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    Quote Posted by Jhonie (here)
    Not what you believe but what do you really know that you can truly prove?
    prove to who?
    It is a joke to think that time can come to circumvent eternity. ~ACIM

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    I have read the watchers predictions , and history has proved them true , every time ... so now when they give a prediction , I know , it will occur ... for over 72 years they have been spot on ... it is so true what they say , eyes to see but they do not see , ears to hear but they do not hear ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Accept where you are is the hardest part then like where you are last step is changing where you are

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    proving something is ego based....it is something we think we need for attention,possessions or approval of others.
    There is great irony in letting go of this idea of proving yourself, because in dropping it, you will gain exactly what you’ve sought in the first place.
    You will gain the ultimate approval of the only opinion that matters, that of Truth.
    You will also gain the respect you seek from others as well, because no one can argue or taint the
    truth.
    If you are true, they have nothing to say or think wrongly about you.
    You will find the very best of friends along this path.

    The one value I know to be true is that I will always keep learning....
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    Quote Posted by Jhonie (here)
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    The only thing I think I know is that I am experiencing this moment.
    I don't "think" further comments are needed beyond that observation; In Fact, that is what I really know At the same time, the experience can be filled all sort of things, most fill theirs with judgements, misery, guilt, doubt, fear; etc. It is all up to each of us to learn to embrace the experience, that is the present moment.
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Hello Jhonie,

    That is one of my favourite questions that I have pondered over the decades. It's an old teaching modality to get people thinking. No matter what the topic whether teaching, writing, lecturing or on a consult, I alway ask: what do you know for sure about this? what do you think you know about this? and what would you like to know about this?

    For myself, there are few things I know for sure due to the manipulation of information and disinformation or partial lies or partial truths that we encounter in or both public and private lives.


    Since kindness should make the world so round but the populations have been retrained to behave in a way as to have money make the world go around. I know fro sure that understanding money will help me understand what the truth is about almost anything political or social.

    What I know for sure is that at one time America had real money and because of that the average American could create family wealth to pass down to the next generation. But when real money was replaced by fiat currency and when the banks became spies on the American public, instead of creating family wealth, the Average American creates debt to be passed down to the next generation. The average American doesn't pay attention to his/her savings account but only his/her credit score.

    If only the average American understood the simple ABCs of real money and creating family wealth, then the people would stay in control of their lives instead of being dictated to on where and how to spend their money, or have their none so easily siphoned form them. What I know for sure is that when cash is banned, then 1776 will be dead and buried.

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    Quote Posted by Jhonie (here)
    Not what you believe but what do you really know that you can truly prove?

    The only thing I think I know is that I am experiencing this moment.
    - The Einstein force & anti-gravity at < 5% margin of error
    - Infinite love acceleration -> soul fusion -> dimensional shift
    - A rough understanding about kind of how a UFO operates
    - Bob Lazar is likely telling the truth
    - Pay attention to what is missing and you will find the truth in what is hidden
    - The world is corrupt at its very core, including the entire jurisdictional system
    - There is deception in a lot of news media
    - That "UFOs" exist (have witnessed with my own eyes)
    - That war & violence does not create peace, but love, peace and truth creates peace and joy
    - The RA material is highly intelligent
    - Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life
    - Unconditional love is cosmic truth

    There is also a lot that I know that I don't know... Like for instance are we living multiple lives at once and how many lives are going on simultaneously per cycle and how do these cycles work, that's something I'm currently studying.
    Last edited by WhiteLove; 6th June 2015 at 22:01.

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    Quote Posted by Jhonie (here)
    Not what you believe but what do you really know that you can truly prove?

    The only thing I think I know is that I am experiencing this moment.
    - The Einstein force & anti-gravity at < 5% margin of error
    - Infinite love acceleration -> soul fusion -> dimensional shift
    - A rough understanding about kind of how a UFO operates
    - Bob Lazar is likely telling the truth
    - Pay attention to what is missing and you will find the truth in what is hidden
    - The world is corrupt at its very core, including the jurisdictional system
    - There is deception in a lot of news media
    - That "UFOs" exist (have witnessed with my own eyes)
    - The RA material is highly intelligent
    - Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life
    - Unconditional love is cosmic truth

    There is also a lot that I know that I don't know... Like for instance are we living multiple lives at once and how many lives are going on simultaneously per cycle and how do these cycles work, that's something I'm currently studying.
    "within Margins of error"?
    "likely telling the truth"?
    "rough understanding"?

    I'm only poking fun in jest, but I think you missed the mark with this exercise a little ..
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Quote Posted by Troy Martin (here)
    Curious, how do you prove that you are experiencing this moment?
    I suppose it could be someone else experiencing it for me, wait ... that doesn't any make sense; or, perhaps I am experiencing a different moment than the present one? Oh wait ... wouldn't a different moment be the moment I am experiencing presently, therefore it would categorically still be the "present moment"? Or perhaps I am not experiencing anything at all ... oh wait, then it would be all black and silent with no thought or existence.

    By basic deductive reasoning, that is how you prove it. But good one!
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Quote Posted by Jhonie (here)
    Not what you believe but what do you really know that you can truly prove?

    The only thing I think I know is that I am experiencing this moment.
    - The Einstein force & anti-gravity at < 5% margin of error
    - Infinite love acceleration -> soul fusion -> dimensional shift
    - A rough understanding about kind of how a UFO operates
    - Bob Lazar is likely telling the truth
    - Pay attention to what is missing and you will find the truth in what is hidden
    - The world is corrupt at its very core, including the jurisdictional system
    - There is deception in a lot of news media
    - That "UFOs" exist (have witnessed with my own eyes)
    - The RA material is highly intelligent
    - Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life
    - Unconditional love is cosmic truth

    There is also a lot that I know that I don't know... Like for instance are we living multiple lives at once and how many lives are going on simultaneously per cycle and how do these cycles work, that's something I'm currently studying.
    "within Margins of error"?
    "likely telling the truth"?
    "rough understanding"?

    I'm only poking fun in jest, but I think you missed the mark with this exercise a little ..
    I say it like the humble messenger of the law of one: "However, the understandings we have to share begin and end in mystery."

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    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

    I'm only poking fun in jest, but I think you missed the mark with this exercise a little ..
    I say it like the humble messenger of the law of one: "However, the understandings we have to share begin and end in mystery."
    Ah, nice quote, but I do not equate "understanding" with "knowing". I may understand a detailed description of what honey tastes like ... but I will never know the taste of honey, have the experience of honey, until I taste the honey ... as Eckhart Tolle would say ...

    It is within this distinction, that I poked the fun
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Quote Posted by Troy Martin (here)
    Curious, how do you prove that you are experiencing this moment?
    you would have to prove it with another moment.

    and how do you know the experience is happening in the moment and not some past memory?
    It is a joke to think that time can come to circumvent eternity. ~ACIM

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    Where do I find "the watchers predictions"?

    TRW

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    I know as truth from my perception the following:

    That the greater percentage of you will not like this post.
    That the English language is a form of control.
    That if you consume dead flesh, you are not spiritual.
    That this is hell for 99% of species on this plane.
    That this quote is correct:
    2% of people think, 3%of people think they think, 95% of people would prefer to die than think.
    That I can exist outside of this body, therefore I am not this body.
    That my perception of self does not require a doctor nor dentist.
    That there are multiple types of beings on this plane and most are evil.
    That most beings defined as human are already dead.
    That the essence of nature in this place is satanic.
    That cancer was understood and cured in the 1930's.
    That I am aware in a place where my thoughts create but it is not a reflection of me, it is already templated, second by second not first by first. The real (reel) is already defined.
    That most are slave hive beings who cannot define a moral compass of their own.
    That I cry when I read Othello and laugh when I read Pratchett.
    That staring at the morning sun did not blind me. ( perception of reality required here).
    That the continued use of technology removes empathy.
    That in essence I am a parasite using a body for selfish gain.
    That a percentage of my thoughts I did not create.
    That I interagate all my supposed thoughts.
    That love is a selfish act used to bolster ego.
    That there is only this place....it is all and no thing simultaneously.
    That my frequency here defines my reel ( real).
    That I cannot die as I am already experiencing death.
    That dementia is a disconnected frequency.
    That within compassion and empathy are the only true values.
    That most within this plane is a plain deception.
    That I dream in the third person, watching myself and remember the past in the third person.
    That I like motorbikes and tools.
    That this post is, from my perception or single verse, incomplete.... But I know as truth that I am bored of typing and that many of you will be bored of reading!
    pmsl
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    Normal..!

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    Default Re: What do you really know?

    Quote Posted by Jhonie (here)
    Not what you believe but what do you really know that you can truly prove?
    I know that if I provided proof for what I really know I'd be in big trouble.

    Therefore, I know that I do not need to prove to anyone what I really know.

    And I just proved that by saying so right here!


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    [...]
    Therefore, I know that I do not need to prove to anyone what I really know.

    [...]
    "Need"? Or being prevented from proving anything for fear of big troubles?
    "La réalité est un rêve que l'on fait atterrir" San Antonio AKA F. Dard

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    Default Re: What do you really know?

    What do I really know ... there's an Art within an Art within an Art ... vow within a vow ,
    there are words and there are meanings .

    They're one in their pure and original form
    but more like reflections in hall of mirrors in worlds of duality
    of which this planet serves as one .
    In between the two sliding edges of cosmic measures
    we're still trying to agree on symbols

    while we should understand each other from hearts

    rather than through symbols



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    My signature sums up what I choose to disclose to most, but I probably know more than I 'should' and I can barely prove that to myself, let alone anyone else.
    "A wise man knows, he knows nothing" - Socrates
    "What any may do, every one must have a right to do" - Locke
    "I soon realised, that I had been lead into a false sense of soliloquy"

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