Eight reasons to vaccinate your child

[Daughter of Time]

1 - Your child is deficient in mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, viruses, foreign DNA or other ingredients proven to cause neurological damage.

2 - Your child has an excess of healthy, functioning brain cells.

3 - You need cash. The National Vaccine Injury Compensation program has paid out 2.8 billion dollars to parents of children injured or killed by vaccines.

4 - You and your spouse are feeling alienated and you need a crisis to bring you together.

5 - You believe that pharmaceutical conglomerates which earn billions from vaccines are more credible than consumer groups.

6 - You think thousands of parents who report that their children became autistic two weeks after vaccination are lying.

7 - You don't see a problem in logic when the government tells you that vaccines work, but that vaccinated children can catch diseases from unvaccinated children.

8 - You think the government should dictate which healing methods you and your children are allowed to use.

Alan V. Schmukler
leading homeopath and founder of "Homeopathy for Everyone"

Big Pharma was not amused by the above satire. They have been demonizing Dr. Schmukler ever since. Some now refer to him as "Dr. Schmuck".

[syrwong]

For reason number 1, chances are your child is not deficient in any of them, since we all are not and the child had a good dose of them while in the womb.

[Hervé]

When I saw the thread title and who started it, I thought: "That's it! DOT's gone around the bend and over the edge..."

Very clever! Of both DOT and Dr. Schmuckler because, who is gonna be attracted to read that article... mostly the ones looking for arguments to debunk those conspiracy nuters who want to defraud Phatpharma from its billions profit and withdraw their license to legally kill and do the greatest harm to the greatest number...

[Daughter of Time]

Posted by syrwong (here)
For reason number 1, chances are your child is not deficient in any of them, since we all are not and the child had a good dose of them while in the womb.

Of course your child is not deficient in any of the above mentioned. None of us are deficient in those. The idea is to get rid of them.

It's a satire!

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Posted by Hervé (here)
When I saw the thread title and who started it, I thought: "That's it! DOT's gone around the bend and over the edge..."

Very clever! Of both DOT and Dr. Schmuckler because, who is gonna be attracted to read that article... mostly the ones looking for arguments to debunk those conspiracy nuters who want to defraud Phatpharma from its billions profit and withdraw their license to legally kill and do the greatest harm to the greatest number...

That's exactly what I thought:

When Herve sees my thread, he'll think I've gone off the deep end!

I knew you'd be amused.

[Hervé]

I guess that, now, Dr.Schmukler can add another reason: Provide pocket $$ for lawmakers/legislators:

Drug Companies Donated Millions to California Lawmakers Prior to Forced Vaccination Bill

Should we not have the right to choose?


by Christina Sarich Posted on June 21, 2015


One in 50 children are now autistic. No, you didn’t read that wrong. Despite the fact that a CDC whistleblower recently came forward admitting that the government agency obfuscated evidence linking vaccines to autistic behavior, California lawmakers passed a mandatory vaccine bill (SB277) which removes parental exemptions – making it so parents couldn’t refuse or delay vaccines. Even more damning evidence has surfaced proving that Big Pharma had their hands in the creation of the bill.

The Sacramento Bee is reporting that State lawmakers behind bill SB277 have ties to the makers of vaccines. Pharmaceutical companies and their trade groups gave current members of the Legislature more than $2 million. Nine of the top 20 recipients of these funds are either members of the Senate health committee, or leaders who could influence the outcome of the bill, as well as push it through to law.

One senator, in particular, is also a doctor, Richard Pan, who received more than $95,000 in campaign cash. He also just happens to be the man who wrote the bill.
As if that weren’t bad enough, Big Pharma also donated more than $500,000 to outside campaign spending groups that helped some of these top nine individuals be elected to their current legislative positions.

Furthermore, pharmaceutical companies contributed nearly $3 million in additional cash to the 2013-2014 legislative session lobbying, among these representatives, the state pharmacists’ board, and other agencies – who could also sway the outcome of SB277 – for mandatory vaccines.

Dr. or Senator Pan, whichever title you choose, is an ‘industry insider’ with far-reaching influence. He has been a teaching faculty member at UC Davis Children’s Hospital, and served many organizations which determine medical funding.

While he has flip-flopped on the vaccine issue in the past, previously introducing a bill which would have required parents to get their doctor’s approval to refuse a vaccine for their child, he recently said that the Disney measles episode, argued by some to be a false flag, was reason enough to promote forced vaccinations ‘for public health.’

Read: California Lawmakers Voice Resounding ‘NO’ to Forced Vaccines

Thousands of people are now calling for the resignation of Dr. Pan for obvious conflict of interest, and a recall of the bill which caused massive protests in California before legislators voted it into law.

A petition has also been started with the same intent:

“We call on California State Senator, Dr. Richard Pan to resign from his position due to his vested interests in profiting from Merck, GlaxoSmithKline and literally dozens of pharmaceutical companies, and the conflict of interest this causes.” (Change.org)

Full article: http://naturalsociety.com/drug-compa...cination-bill/

[Bubu]

[Kryztian]

I saw the title of this thread and thought "Who had the nerve to put this on Avalalon why I ought to ... " forgetting that there was such a thing as irony.

Thanks, pith points well made.

[sigma6]

by Christina Sarich Posted on June 21, 2015

One in 50 children are now autistic. No, you didn’t read that wrong. Despite the fact that a CDC whistleblower recently came forward admitting that the government agency obfuscated evidence linking vaccines to autistic behavior, California lawmakers passed a mandatory vaccine bill (SB277) which removes parental exemptions – making it so parents couldn’t refuse or delay vaccines. Even more damning evidence has surfaced proving that Big Pharma had their hands in the creation of the bill.

Another reason to operate outside statutory (Corporate Policy) interpretation... give up your benefits and figure out how to manage your Person (the legal corporate entity that was originally issued to you...) not as an identity (which it never was, and still isn't) but as the receipt and proof of your pledge of your energy to the state, and thus the reason why you don't own anything (because it's held in a trust via the public registration) but that also means you should be able to access it to offset the cost of things you might want for yourself... seeing as your whole lifetime of energy is in that pledge...

thanks for a refreshing post DoT... I love it... God Bless Dr Schmuck (or whatever) he's mensch in my book.

[WhiteFeather]

I often pondered this.

[Pam]

Posted by Hervé (here)
I guess that, now, Dr.Schmukler can add another reason: Provide pocket $$ for lawmakers/legislators:

Drug Companies Donated Millions to California Lawmakers Prior to Forced Vaccination Bill

Should we not have the right to choose?


by Christina Sarich Posted on June 21, 2015


One in 50 children are now autistic. No, you didn’t read that wrong. Despite the fact that a CDC whistleblower recently came forward admitting that the government agency obfuscated evidence linking vaccines to autistic behavior, California lawmakers passed a mandatory vaccine bill (SB277) which removes parental exemptions – making it so parents couldn’t refuse or delay vaccines. Even more damning evidence has surfaced proving that Big Pharma had their hands in the creation of the bill.

The Sacramento Bee is reporting that State lawmakers behind bill SB277 have ties to the makers of vaccines. Pharmaceutical companies and their trade groups gave current members of the Legislature more than $2 million. Nine of the top 20 recipients of these funds are either members of the Senate health committee, or leaders who could influence the outcome of the bill, as well as push it through to law.

One senator, in particular, is also a doctor, Richard Pan, who received more than $95,000 in campaign cash. He also just happens to be the man who wrote the bill.
As if that weren’t bad enough, Big Pharma also donated more than $500,000 to outside campaign spending groups that helped some of these top nine individuals be elected to their current legislative positions.

Furthermore, pharmaceutical companies contributed nearly $3 million in additional cash to the 2013-2014 legislative session lobbying, among these representatives, the state pharmacists’ board, and other agencies – who could also sway the outcome of SB277 – for mandatory vaccines.

Dr. or Senator Pan, whichever title you choose, is an ‘industry insider’ with far-reaching influence. He has been a teaching faculty member at UC Davis Children’s Hospital, and served many organizations which determine medical funding.

While he has flip-flopped on the vaccine issue in the past, previously introducing a bill which would have required parents to get their doctor’s approval to refuse a vaccine for their child, he recently said that the Disney measles episode, argued by some to be a false flag, was reason enough to promote forced vaccinations ‘for public health.’

Read: California Lawmakers Voice Resounding ‘NO’ to Forced Vaccines

Thousands of people are now calling for the resignation of Dr. Pan for obvious conflict of interest, and a recall of the bill which caused massive protests in California before legislators voted it into law.

A petition has also been started with the same intent:

“We call on California State Senator, Dr. Richard Pan to resign from his position due to his vested interests in profiting from Merck, GlaxoSmithKline and literally dozens of pharmaceutical companies, and the conflict of interest this causes.” (Change.org)

Full article: http://naturalsociety.com/drug-compa...cination-bill/

I thought I would throw in part of an article by Dr. Mercola regarding this topic. I found something in it that was really alarming. This legislation would prohibit non vaccinated people from attending any school and bar them from employment in the future. How is that for a picture perfect Orwellian dystopia!!! I really could not believe my eyes. What a classic example of problem -reaction- solution. This is the opportunity the government has been waiting for. Sending out feelers to see what we are willing to tolerate. Tow the line or become a virtual outcast. It is so creepy it makes me nauseated.

American Medical Association Supports the Elimination of Parents’ Right to Make Vaccine Choices, and California Takes Another Step Toward Medical Tyranny

By Dr. Mercola

In 2012, then California Assemblyman Dr. Richard Pan (D-Sacramento)1 assured Californians that a bill he sponsored (AB2107) to increase child vaccination rates in the state would not remove parental rights to make vaccine choices for their children.

Now a state Senator, he's singing a different tune. This year he worked with attorney Senator Ben Allen (D-Santa Monica) to fast track a bill (SB277) through the state legislature

The bill would make it virtually impossible for California children to attend daycare or get a school education without receiving more than 40 doses of 10 federally recommended vaccines or filing a medical vaccine exemption granted by a medical doctor.

If the bill is made law, parents and their children will pay a hefty price. As Dr. Pan stated on his Facebook page2 on June 9:

"it is time for all state legislatures to step in... Yes, parents have the right to refuse vaccination for their children, but to protect other parents' and children's rights, these families must then accept the consequences of their decision: no admittance to public preschool, school, college, or workplace. [Emphasis mine]

That's right; unless you vaccinate your child, he or she will be denied a school education from preschool through college. You'll have no option but to homeschool.

And, it sounds like Dr. Pan is not going to be content with preventing children from getting an education but is also going to lobby to deny employment to adults unwilling to comply with federal vaccine recommendations.

How can this occur in America, "land of the free"? It is with a shudder I realize that my satirical April Fool's article, "US Government Rolls Out Mandatory Adult Vaccination and Tracking Program", is becoming more frighteningly real with each passing day.

Many of my readers were outraged after reading that satire piece. They didn't realize it was a joke until they read my disclaimer at the end of the article because it hit so close to the truth.

That really says something about the growing discomfort with and deteriorating faith in oppressive and ineffective public health policies and laws.

[Tenzin]

Just did this up, feel free to share it.

[Tallana]

I was vaccinated as a child and I survived 24 years so far without having any side effects. I think it's a good thing. And I'm shocked because some people can actually risk their child's life just to join the new "no vaccination" fad. Are they not happy with the choice of their own parents? Will they be able to forgive themselves when their child dies?

[gripreaper]

Vaccines contain live virus, bovine sera or other animal sera, Thimerosal (MERCURY), casein and gelatin, phosphate, formaldehyde, ammonium sulfate, washed sheep red blood cells, glycerol, sodium chloride, porcine (PIG) pancreatic hydrolsate, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, hydrolized gelatin, polio virus, phenoxyethanol, neomycin, streptomycin, polymixin B, and glutamate. The live viruses are cultured in petri dishes from animal parts and kept alive with the adjuvants. You are introducing live viruses into your body.

Why would you put these toxic ingredients in your body, especially the body of a young child with a developing brain and immune system? Fifteen years ago the occurrence of autism was about 1 in 10,000. Today it is 1 in every 250 children. Why is that?

The logic of vaccines is that they introduce the live viruses to the immune system and stimulate the immune system to fight the virus, thus strengthening it. I ask, what is wrong with the immune system which is left to develop on it's own? Why would ANYONE introduce such toxins in an infant or a child whose immune system is fragile and developing? Answer me why?

When I was a kid we had one MMR when we started school, and now you can't even leave the hospital as an infant without being bombarded with vaccines, and then there are several more within the first year.

In spite of whether you want to vaccinate or not, is not the body sovereign to the individual, and should not this decision be left up to the individual? Where do we draw the line and say it is okay to violate one's sovereignty? Should we open up that can of worms and say we are all slaves owned by the state and they can do whatever the hell they want with their property, because that is how it is?

The Supreme Court Ruled back in 1795 that the government HAS NO JURISDICTION over the Natural Man when it stated:

“Inasmuch as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, a government can interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary, having neither actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc. can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts between them.” S.C.R. 1795, (3 U.S. 54; 1 L.Ed. 57; 3 Dall. 54),

When did we as a nation turn over our natural rights to choose for ourselves what we can and cannot do with our own bodies, to an artificial person, a bankrupt administrative corporation run by executive orders from a bunch of banksters whose only interest is profit and control?

So, the vaccine issue is not so much a public health issue, although those who choose to vaccinate should have nothing to worry about from those who choose not to vaccinate, if vaccines actually work, but is an issue of individual sovereignty.

There are more and more statutes, rules, regulations, mandates, licenses, fees, and all manner of encroachment on the sovereignty of individuals. When do we say enough is enough?

[syrwong]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
I often pondered this.

There is never the need to give good reasons to rebuke Government arguments. Governments so often becomes corrupt and all their reasons for implementing measures are just excuses some insidious purposes. People should always be aware they are the master and if they don't want some policy they simply shout "We don't want no XXXX", without having to explain. They can say, "yes, we understand there is terrorism, there is 911, but we don't want these stupid security scans. This is an order, and you are my employee, Mr. Government!"

Taking the power from the governments is perhaps the most important thing for humankind in this new era, a necessity following awakening. The alternative is to allow humanity to fall back into another 2000 years of abyss.

[gripreaper]

Both my girls were born at home, and have never had vaccines. They are both grown adult women now, and are both healthy as can be, never get colds or flu's, and are smart and sharp as a whip. I'm glad I was able to make this choice for them, and I cringe at the thought that the emerging generation feels or knows so little about freedom and would submit to mandatory vaccinations.

It breaks my heart.

[Daughter of Time]

Posted by Tallana (here)
I was vaccinated as a child and I survived 24 years so far without having any side effects. I think it's a good thing. And I'm shocked because some people can actually risk their child's life just to join the new "no vaccination" fad. Are they not happy with the choice of their own parents? Will they be able to forgive themselves when their child dies?

People who refrain from vaccinating their children do not do it because they've joined a "fad". They do it because they have educated themselves and know that the risks outweigh the potential benefits.

In Poland, you probably received one or two vaccinations as a child. In North America, they try to shoot dozens of vaccines into virtually newborns! There is a difference between what they used to do in Europe over 20 years ago and what they try to do now. Most of the vaccines administered now are not necessary.

I personally know people who have suffered greatly because of vaccines that were forced on them by the government. The worse case I personally know was, at the time, 28 years old. She became extremely ill within minutes of a flu shot and was paralyzed hours afterwards. She remains paralyzed and will be so for life! I know some cases of autism in children after vaccines, but I won't bother recounting those as pretty much everyone is acquainted with that kind of case scenario. Don't think I'm trying to convince you. I could not care less how you personally feel or what your beliefs are. I am merely stating what feels right for me.

If you'd like to defend vaccines, then that is your privilege. But I don't think you'll find much support on this thread.

[Hervé]

Posted by Tallana (here)
[...] the new "no vaccination" fad.
[...]

A suggestion for vaccinations starter/primer: Do vaccines contribute to autism? Should we vaccinate?

[Oouthere]

I guess along with the primer, we needs a few quick charts:

Africa - measles. In 1981 there were over 1,400,000 cases, as of 2013 there were less than 100,000.:



Africa - polio. According to the world health organization in 1988 polio crippled over 1,000 children per day. In all of 2014, it was 14.

http://www.who.int/entity/bulletin/a...3-F003-003.jpg

[Houman]

Posted by Oouthere (here)
I guess along with the primer, we needs a few quick charts:

Africa - measles. In 1981 there were over 1,400,000 cases, as of 2013 there were less than 100,000.:



Africa - polio. According to the world health organization in 1988 polio crippled over 1,000 children per day. In all of 2014, it was 14.

http://www.who.int/entity/bulletin/a...3-F003-003.jpg

The problem with the so called "vaccination science" is that it is not a science, it is based on fraudulent epid. studies whose source data is of restricted access and therefore impossible to verify or validate... in other words all these epid. studies are belief based (you have to believe the CDC or WHO because you can't check the data)... it is interesting to note that all biological studies have shown that vaccines are to be avoided and the only studies supporting vaccination are epid. (very easy to falsify and with data of restricted access). The only study comparing vaccinated and un-vaccinated has been done for DOGS and shows how vaccination will systematically turn your own immune system against yourself http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com...ation-studies/

By the way polio has not gone away, it has simply be renamed aseptic meningitis, Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP), Guillain-Barre’ syndrome aka “French Polio”, traumatic neuritis, Reye’s syndrome, enteroviral encephalitis, transverse myelitis, poliomyelitis, ... (and most of these polio type diseases are vaccine induced)

See the graph in http://drsuzanne.net/wp-content/uplo...al-Council.pdf showing how reports of polio leveled out while AFP cases continually soared...

Houman

[gripreaper]

The sales figures are staggering though:

In 2005 global vaccine sales were $10 billion. That number is expected to increase over four-fold by the end of 2015 to $41 billion according to the statistics portal Statista.

So, anti-vaxers are a minority.

In late 2010, it was estimated that no fewer than 365 new vaccinations for infectious diseases were being developed. The lure of big profits and government support has been drawing in new companies, from new biotechs to Johnson & Johnson, helped along by traditional vaccination supporters such as the World Health Organization, the CDC, global charities and the mass media.

A little hype goes a long way...

In 2009-10, we had the great Swine Flu Scare, which boosted vaccine makers’ profits by even more billions. Britain's GlaxoSmithKline estimated a boost in vaccine sales by as much as $2 Billion dollars from its Swine Flu vaccine alone. Sanofi-Aventis estimated a 40% increase in vaccine sales in 2010.

And they're gunning for our kids:

Flu shot use has jumped from 20 million doses in 1990 to 113 million in 2009. That parallels the huge increase in childhood vaccinations. In 1984 there were 10 mandatory vaccinations for children from birth to age 6. By 2007 the number had grown to 36

The effects be damned, there are PROFITS to be made!!!

Meanwhile, there have been no long term studies on vaccination safety for even single vaccines – much less the effects of so many combined vaccines. Already, vaccinations have been linked to disorders of the blood, brain, skin, and nervous system - including encephalitis, paralysis, nerve inflammation, diseases of the lymph glands, skin disorders, allergies, arthritis, cancer and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome.

http://www.tbyil.com/vaccines_golden_era.htm