The Corey Goode affair: various updates from David Wilcock

[Lost N Found]

You know, I just spent the last hour rambling on about this thread and screwed up and deleted it by mistake. I quess what I was trying to say is why do we give life and credence to the fear and Poor souls like Corey Goode who may be lost in translation or something and just looking for recognition in his life. Yes he may have been part of the MILAB experiment or some such, we have no way of knowing but should we be giving credence to this? Should we give credence to all of the fear Porn from folks like Alex Jones, Dave Hodges, Peter Shiftt, or any of these folks that just want your money to tell you how to save your money? or, want you to start some sort of war, Yes it is good and has always been good to be prepared for any emergency and definitely one should be able to protect themselves and loved ones. Just saying, we do not need to buy into fear porn and we can all be grounded in the fact that the light will shine and life moves forward.

Well I will make this short and sweet, Bill has given us a chart that evaluates alot of these folks that just want your money to buy their books and CD's and follow their trains of thought. Well I do believe it all comes down to the money and we all need to do our own vetting of these folks so we do understand the truth. If we all unplug from the Matrix at once! who knows what will happen. Thank you Bill for giving a starting point to vet with.

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Bob (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by grannyfranny100 (here)

I would love to hear what others were observing that were red flags for their discernment. It would be an education for all of us.

That's an important and intelligent question. It can be applied to every situation in which we find ourselves where we're presented with information that may be not be easy to evaluate.

The intelligence services use this well-tried system:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelli...on_reliability




That's a pretty useful thinking tool. It's objective (it has to be), and from an intelligence analysis point of view, is independent of irrelevant subjective factors such as whether a source is difficult to work with, or whether or not they're likeable as an individual.

In there, at the end, of course, there's a human evaluation which is at least subjective to a degree. To set the cat well among the pigeons, and to offer a few examples, I'd offer these personal assessments:

• Corey Goode: E4
• David Wilcock: C3
• Michael Salla: B3

(and while on the subject of Mars and the Secret Space Program)

• Andy Basiago: C4
• Randy Cramer: E4
• Henry Deacon (Arthur Neumann): A2
• Bill Deagle: A2
• Jay Weidner: A2
• Steven Greer: D2
• Alfred Webre: D4
  

(And finally, to set the bar — discuss )

• Linda Moulton Howe: A1
• Rich Dolan: A1
• Richard Hoagland: B2
• Bob Dean: A2
• Kerry Cassidy: B2
• Bill Ryan: A2
  

Re Linda/Rich/Richard/Bob/Kerry/myself, some of the disparity in rating is accounted for by the nature of the material those six are willing to consider/explore/discuss.

Folks have NOT gotten it.. Various previous MODS have taken a position to spin things --- into agendas to let them have their own agendas, including new forums.. Bill had been more than honest, and forgiving of MANY of the assaults to his character.. I find it abhorrent, there is no multiplicative as to how abhorrent some ex-members (despite if they are "on sabbatical") or not have chosen to be "reactive" or psychotic in a more definitive way..

Bill has created a forum for members to choose the viewpoint UPSTAT, you all think about what UPSTAT means... instead those less than upstat members have chosen to stay in the sewers.. And invite others to jump in that view point with them..absolutely not - take your sewer viewpoint and put in elsewhere... Awareness, I think not.. from those who choose downstat instead of finding a way upwards... Bill, you have done good.. the dross have not tried to rise themselves upwards. And I will point out positive or dross when I see it.. YOU Bill are doing good.

What does UPSTAT mean?

[Bob]

Let's ask Bill to explain that - UP-Statistics.. more like defining a viewpoint of survival, instead of death, and being in the dumps.. Is the dumps what people want? You tell me..

[bruno dante]

Posted by Bob (here)
Let's ask Bill to explain that - UP-Statistics.. more like defining a viewpoint of survival, instead of death, and being in the dumps.. Is the dumps what people want? You tell me..

Bob, with all due respect, starting with your last post and into this one...I have no idea what you're talking about.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
What does UPSTAT mean?

Posted by Bob (here)
Let's ask Bill to explain that - UP-Statistics.. more like defining a viewpoint of survival, instead of death, and being in the dumps.. Is the dumps what people want? You tell me..

Posted by bruno dante (here)
Bob, with all due respect, starting with your last post and into this one...I have no idea what you're talking about.

Thanks to Google, from this Ex-Scientologist page:

In Scientology ...

"Upstats" (people who increase their statistics) are treated more gently, less likely to be corrected, and in general are treated as valuable.

"Downstats" are treated poorly. Anything done to them is measured against stats. If the person that does something (yelling at them or whatever) is upstat, nothing done to the "downstat" would be considered wrong.

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
What does UPSTAT mean?

Posted by Bob (here)
Let's ask Bill to explain that - UP-Statistics.. more like defining a viewpoint of survival, instead of death, and being in the dumps.. Is the dumps what people want? You tell me..

Posted by bruno dante (here)
Bob, with all due respect, starting with your last post and into this one...I have no idea what you're talking about.

Thanks to Google, from this Ex-Scientologist page:

In Scientology ...

"Upstats" (people who increase their statistics) are treated more gently, less likely to be corrected, and in general are treated as valuable.

"Downstats" are treated poorly. Anything done to them is measured against stats. If the person that does something (yelling at them or whatever) is upstat, nothing done to the "downstat" would be considered wrong.

Thanks, Paul. I have to say, taken in that context, Bob's post takes on a rather ominous tone. But, maybe that's just me being an SP.

Google is a funny thing, three pages searching upstat, and all I got was a bunch of corporate gobbledygook, no mention of scientology.

[Rex]

In a long ago broadcast, Whitley Strieber described some of the folks that take the research way further than he ever will, as "flying too close to the sun". He mentioned Richard C. Hoagland as one of those folks. Rather than focus on the negative, I thought it was a great way to look at it, and still do. I would say guys like David Wilcock taking it even further, maybe "wingsuiting through coronal arches" :smile:

One comment about the rating system, maybe it should have ranges - for example RCH might get B2-C3.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

Bob's post takes on a rather ominous tone

No, it's just slang!

It's a one-stop euphemism that means (kind of) enthusiastic, productive, creative, constructive, positive, everything that's 'up' about a person who's good news to have around.

That's why we filter applications (and why some people get to be asked to leave the community if they're being too destructive, abusive, sabotaging, etc... which is the exact opposite).

[Flash]

Sounds like in higher corporate management philosophy or a corporate sales meeting attitudes. With actual scientology, I bet it is precisely what it is.

However, I do understand the context here which is not scientology.

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
What does UPSTAT mean?

Posted by Bob (here)
Let's ask Bill to explain that - UP-Statistics.. more like defining a viewpoint of survival, instead of death, and being in the dumps.. Is the dumps what people want? You tell me..

Posted by bruno dante (here)
Bob, with all due respect, starting with your last post and into this one...I have no idea what you're talking about.

Thanks to Google, from this Ex-Scientologist page:

In Scientology ...

"Upstats" (people who increase their statistics) are treated more gently, less likely to be corrected, and in general are treated as valuable.

"Downstats" are treated poorly. Anything done to them is measured against stats. If the person that does something (yelling at them or whatever) is upstat, nothing done to the "downstat" would be considered wrong.

[PHennessey]

The Corey Goode saga is fascinating and far-reaching, but I am wary of accepting it at face value until someone else comes out of the woodwork to back him up. Anyone else feel the same way?

[Carmody]

that is the problem, in a nutshell.

people react as their monkey which filters their thoughts...it is designed to react, first, think later. Thus the reaction-thought formation system chokes out intellectual thought --- in a feedback loop of not-know.

External items are emotion processed first, so we get to belief in the things we cannot discern, as a first order premise.

That is where crap like 'trusting to god' steps in as a substitute for thought and discernment. As fear says such things to the intellectual 'don't know' part... and moves the body to seek comfort/safety. In the original monkey design, that command was to move the body to safety. In this case we lie/falsehood the body to safety. Or accept someone else's announcement/discussion/statement of safety, etc... in whatever form it may arrive.

Monkeys play in the middle of the herd, not the edges. The edges are more alert. Thus to play means being in the middle. Not discerning. Just..comfortable.

These things are ultra-critical to understand, so you can then see the pattern of manipulation that lies beneath the hierarchical system of thought formation within your body.

The powers and elites of this world realize and know these thing thoroughly, so they simply grab the levers with both hands and ...bend you.

The monkey herd animal in control (first principle, body safety) of humanity and human thought formation..is stunningly clear. If only one bothers to look. The pattern is excruciatingly visible, to me.

[idiit]

The Corey Goode saga is fascinating and far-reaching, but I am wary of accepting it at face value until someone else comes out of the woodwork to back him up. Anyone else feel the same way?

^ yes, almost an " of course".

three gears; forward (belief), backwards ( disbelief) and the forgotten third gear of neutral (suspended outside detached observer).

[Brizil]

Hello to all. It has been a while since I have posted. I have been following this thread and love the collaboration. I don't believe or disbelieve anything because I don't have access to the information needed to make a well informed decision one way or the other (this forum is very helpful). I appreciate the "Source Reliability" information that Bill provided and will make use of that for sure. When sifting through all the information that has been presented to us I decided to just take it in and be aware of how my optics are influencing my objectivity. I perceive none of this as factual but as fascinating and intriguing. Instinctually, I feel like some major change is coming but I really don't know what that change will be.

[idiit]

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[Lost N Found]

Thanks idiit, There is another place you can watch this business with Corey and David go to http://www.ascensionwithearth.com that place has all of this stuff plus.

[araucaria]

Posted by Brizil (here)
Instinctually, I feel like some major change is coming but I really don't know what that change will be.

Given your age, I would suggest that this has nothing whatever to do with Corey Goode, and everything to do with your Pluto square.
See this post and following:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post980928

[Brizil]

Ok. Thank you for taking the time to share this with me.

[idiit]

I just watched the two goode/wilcock vids.

incredible. must view. great stuff.

few snippets from my take ( you should view and get your own take):

corey goode's blue avian connect is ra (law of one). ra rules the major ssp conferences. no one messes with ra at these conferences; he be boss man.

lots of the huge spheres we've been reading about are located around our sun cluster to diffuse the intense new galactic "dimensional shift" energies we are rotating into. we should enjoy a fairly smooth segue into the fourth dimension.

there are some major battles going on between different factions. our 3d cognizance is more testosterone fueled "big stick thumping" oriented. ra stresses the higher dimensional path of peaceful loving energies resolving the problems. neg reactions beget neg solutions. bad. at higher levels of consciousness ( 4d and above) it's about the energies. we are manifesting creator beings. wilcock calls this "Imagineering". we have a tremendous two edged sword available to us; our unique and powerful emotions. these emotions are the lynchpin/actualizer of our creator manifesting capacities. we have been tricked by our would be enslavers into an endless bad karma viscous cycle of neg energy reaction/solution mode. the key to the doorway out is peaceful, loving + energies utilized for a + solution.

anyhooooo, great stuff imo. hope you do too. you won't know what they said unless you take the time.....

ps: we don't have to be "the bitch, taking it bending over". we can resolve the issues without anger, hatred, physical violence....

^ all dat is so 3d anyway...

http://www.gaiamtv.com/seeking-truth...mic-disclosure

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by idiit (here)

lots of the huge spheres we've been reading about are located around our sun cluster to diffuse the intense new galactic "dimensional shift" energies we are rotating into. we should enjoy a fairly smooth segue into the fourth dimension.

Pure nonsense.

[PathWalker]

Posted by idiit (here)
lots of the huge spheres we've been reading about are located around our sun cluster to diffuse the intense new galactic "dimensional shift" energies we are rotating into. we should enjoy a fairly smooth segue into the fourth dimension.

Smooth patronizing and false shielding. Are the characteristics of STS energy draining teachers.

The omens of a new religion, with the return of new/old gods.