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    Default Statesman speech : Nigel Farage to Alexis Tsipras – Greece’s Moment Has Come

    I'm not a natural UKIP supporter , but Nigel has charisma and certainly has his
    moments and is not afraid to say what he means, even if at times his puts
    his foot in his mouth. But this is a very good mini synopsis of this 'Greek tragedy'
    playing out on the global theatre.



    Nigel Farage to Alexis Tsipras – Greece’s Moment Has Come

    By ickonic on 9th July 2015



    Published on 8 Jul 2015
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    Default Re: Statesman speach : Nigel Farage to Alexis Tsipras – Greece’s Moment Has Come

    Hello cider,was i the only person watching this film who jumped on his chair and punched the air cheering? lol. when this guy has something to say he sure knows how to get his point across.

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    Default Re: Statesman speach : Nigel Farage to Alexis Tsipras – Greece’s Moment Has Come

    Brilliant speech. I wonder if Tsipras will (or CAN) take any notice.

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    Quote Hello cider,was i the only person watching this film who jumped on his chair and punched the
    air cheering? lol. when this guy has something to say he sure knows how to get his point across.
    No you were not alone , I expect many were cheering at home ,just like at the end there was a lot of applause
    & cheers by some of the assembly members in the auditorium. I also like how he pointed out the arms ind of
    Germany although others as well would be keen for sales and Goldman Sachs and other 'Banksters'......

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    Quote Brilliant speech. I wonder if Tsipras will (or CAN) take any notice.
    He looked like he agreed and probably wanted to cheer ....LOL

    But had to stay calm and collective as he has still got to negotiate
    with the loan sharks !!

    Some of this may have been Greek government policy incompetence,
    but its time to flag up these , dodgy deals and loans in all countries.
    Where its the common people who always suffer.


    Which reminds me of a song...LOL

    First line of the lyrics...

    " She came from Greece , she had a thirst for knowledge ".....

    Pulp Live - Common People (Glastonbury 1995)



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    Default Re: Statesman speach : Nigel Farage to Alexis Tsipras – Greece’s Moment Has Come

    This guy got his mic turned off for supporting Greece

    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    Default Re: Statesman speach : Nigel Farage to Alexis Tsipras – Greece’s Moment Has Come

    To be fair to Mr. Tsipras and his colleagues if negociacions can stave
    off impending chaos and hurt in the short term he has to be seen
    to do it for the sake of his fellow 10 million Greek citizens.

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    Greece debt crisis: Athens blinks first as Alexis Tsipras promises to
    ‘immediately implement’ reforms – in return for loan from bailout fund


    By ickonic on 9th July 2015 Corporate Crime, Political Manipulation, The Money Scam



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    ‘Greek leaders appeared to blink first in the eurozone stand-off with Germany, promising
    to “immediately implement” tax and pension-related measures in return for a three-year
    loan from Europe’s bailout fund.

    In the letter sent to the European Stability Mechanism (ESM), the Athens government said
    it would “set out in detail its proposals for a comprehensive and specific reform agenda”
    that would avert national bankruptcy and an exit from the euro. These would include reforms
    to the tax and pension system, the letter promised.

    However, the letter did not specify if Greece had agreed to the meet the full demands of its
    creditors and eurozone members which have called for a host of austerity measures including
    large cuts to pensions, VAT increases and a more robust tax-collection regime.’

    Read more: Greece debt crisis: Athens blinks first as Alexis Tsipras promises
    to ‘immediately implement’ reforms – in return for loan from bailout fund

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10376372.html

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    Greece debt crisis: Deadline day for new proposals

    57 minutes ago

    From the section Europe


    Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras leaves his office in Maximos Mansion in Athens, Greece (July 9, 2015)

    Greek PM Alexis Tsipras has returned to Athens for meetings with officials and members of his government


    Greece has until the end of Thursday to present new proposals to secure a third bailout from creditors and
    prevent a possible exit from the eurozone.Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras says the "next hours will be crucial".
    His cabinet is meeting to discuss the plans, which need to be submitted to Greece's creditors by 22:00 GMT
    on Thursday.The new proposals will be studied by eurozone finance ministers on Saturday and a full EU
    summit on Sunday.The President of the European Council, Donald Tusk, who will chair Sunday's meeting,
    said on Thursday that he had spoken to Mr Tsipras and hoped to receive "concrete and realistic proposals
    of reforms from Athens".

    Such proposals "will have to be matched by an equally realistic proposal on debt sustainability from the
    creditors. Only then will we have a win-win situation," Mr Tusk added.



    Mr Tsipras was applauded by his cabinet as he arrived in parliament on Thursday

    However the German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that "a classic haircut" (meaning reducing the value
    of Greece's debts) was "out of the question" for her.All Greek to you? Debt jargon explained
    Speaking in Sarajevo, Mrs Merkel said the eurozone had dealt with the issue of debt sustainability in 2012.

    'Suffering'

    She described Sunday's EU summit as a decisive and important meeting.

    "We must not forget that the Greek people are suffering at the moment," she said.

    The Greek government has meanwhile extended bank closures and the €60 (£43; $66) daily limit on cash
    machine withdrawals until Monday.

    The curbs were imposed on 28 June, after a deadlock in bailout talks with creditors led to a rush of withdrawals.

    Read More...............

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33457251

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    Default Re: Statesman speech : Nigel Farage to Alexis Tsipras – Greece’s Moment Has Come

    "It would be madness, Sir, to continue on this course..." LOL

    And BTW. I thought the whole EU invention was madness, the day I first heard about it.

    I even think borders is madness and even more mad it is to create the political ideas of "immigration" and whether it is a problem or not. It is all madness.
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    Default Re: Statesman speech : Nigel Farage to Alexis Tsipras – Greece’s Moment Has Come

    Nigel Farage's fabulous tirades never cease to amaze me; he's always "right on the money"; and so are David Icke's assessments of the world situation (which corroborate in part to Farage's expoundings)-

    please stay well all-

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    Cidersomerset, thanks for that video, you just gotta love this guy, I also found myself cheering and clapping after listening to what Nigel Farage said. He says it like it is. And it appears there were many in the assembly who where clapping in agreement/support. I suspect Greece will pull out of the European Union. Russia's Putin has again offered assistance to the Greeks, they only need to ask. The question is, why have they not. Time will tell. This is more fun than watching TV. This inevitable global collapse in my opinion is necessary. It should be the catalist that will help wake many people up.

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    Greece debt crisis: Athens accepts harsh austerity as bailout deal nears

    By ickonic on 10th July 2015 Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation, The Money Scam



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    THE GUARDIAN


    Greece debt crisis: Athens accepts harsh austerity as bailout deal nears

    Greek cabinet backs a 13-page package of reforms and spending cuts worth €13bn to
    secure third bailout and modest debt writeoff

    ‘The Greek government capitulated on Thursday to demands from its creditors for severe
    austerity measures in return for a modest debt write-off, raising hopes that a rescue deal
    could be signed at an emergency meeting of EU leaders on Sunday.

    Athens has put forward a 13-page document detailing reforms and public spending cuts
    worth €13bn with the aim of securing a third bailout from creditors that would raise €53.5bn
    and allow it to stay inside the currency union.

    A cabinet meeting signed off the reform package after ministers agreed that the dire state
    of the economy and the debilitating closure of the country’s banks meant it had no option
    but to agree to almost all the creditors terms.’

    Read more: Greece debt crisis: Athens accepts harsh austerity as bailout deal nears

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    Greece debt crisis: MPs to vote on new bailout plan
    1 hour ago
    Alexis Tsipras at a Syriza party meeting, 10 July


    Alexis Tsipras told a Syriza party meeting: "We are all in this together"

    Greek crisis triggers memories of WW2


    Greek MPs are to vote later on whether to back PM Alexis Tsipras's tough
    new proposals to secure a third bailout.The proposals are aimed at staving
    off financial collapse and preventing a possible exit from the eurozone.
    Eurozone finance ministers will examine the new plans, which include
    pension cuts and tax rises, ahead of a full EU summit on Sunday.Mr Tsipras's
    new plan contains many elements rejected in a referendum last Sunday.
    He is likely to face opposition from the left of his own Syriza party.

    Follow the latest updates here

    However, a parliamentary spokesman for Syriza, Nikos Filis, said he was
    confident MPs would give the government the mandate to negotiate the
    new bailout package.The coalition government has 162 seats in the
    300-strong parliament and also has the backing of many opposition MPs.

    Analysis: Robert Peston, BBC economics editor

    Only a few days ago Mr Tsipras won an overwhelming mandate from the
    Greek people, in a referendum, to reject more-or-less these bailout terms.
    And today, on the back of that popular vote, he is signing up to the
    supposedly hated bailout. This is big politics that would make Lewis
    Carroll proud.But here's the point. If a way isn't found to allow the banks
    to reopen within days - and the ECB simply maintaining Emergency Liquidity
    Assistance won't come anywhere near to achieving that - the Greek economy
    will implode so that any bailout deal agreed this weekend will become irrelevant
    in weeks.


    null
    Mr Tsipras convened a meeting of Syriza ahead of the parliamentary debate.

    A government official quoted him as telling the party's lawmakers that the
    referendum had given him a mandate to seek a better deal but not to leave
    the eurozone."We are all in this together," he was quoted as saying.
    The BBC's Mark Lowen in Athens says Mr Tsipras will have plenty of critics
    who say he was elected because he promised to end austerity and won a
    "No" vote rejecting creditors' terms just last Sunday - and now has gone
    back on virtually every pledge.The prime minister submitted the proposals
    to Greece's creditors - the European Commission, the European Central Bank
    and the International Monetary Fund - by the Thursday deadline they had set.

    The measures submitted in the document include:
    ◾tax rise on shipping companies
    ◾unifying VAT rates at standard 23%, including restaurants and catering
    ◾phasing out solidarity grant for pensioners by 2019
    ◾€300m ($332m; £216m) defence spending cuts by 2016
    ◾privatisation of ports and sell-off of remaining shares in telecoms giant OTE
    ◾scrapping 30% tax break for wealthiest islands

    Vid on link..........http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33473779

    Greek views on tough new proposals

    Energy Minister Panagiotis Lafazanis on Thursday urged the government not
    to agree to a bailout that would "surrender, loot and subjugate our people".
    He said the "No" vote in last Sunday's referendum should not be turned into
    a "humiliating 'Yes'".Further rallies are planned in Athens on Friday, both
    backing and opposing the terms of a new bailout.

    'Serious and credible'

    European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, European Central Bank
    President Mario Draghi, International Monetary Fund head Christine Lagarde
    and Eurogroup President Jeroen Dijsselbloem are to hold a conference call on
    the new proposals at 11:00 GMT, EU sources told Reuters.Mr Dijsselbloem
    described the Greek paper as a "thorough text" and said there could be a
    "major decision" on Saturday.That is when eurozone finance ministers meet
    in Brussels. A meeting of Eurogroup leaders is scheduled for Sunday afternoon,
    followed by a full EU summit two hours later.

    French President Francois Hollande said the new proposals were "serious and
    credible" and that the "Greeks have just shown their determination to remain
    in the eurozone".




    Greece in numbers
    €320bn
    Greece's debt mountain
    €240bn
    European bailout
    177% country's debt-to-GDP ratio
    25% fall in GDP since 2010
    26% Greek unemployment rate
    Source: ECB, IMF, Greek National Statistics Agency

    Reuters

    European Council President Donald Tusk has described the situation as
    "maybe the most critical moment" in EU history.Greece's creditors have
    already provided more than €200bn in two bailouts since a rescue plan
    began five years ago.The second bailout expired on 30 June.For the third
    bailout, Greece is reportedly seeking €53.5bn and a restructuring of its
    huge debt burden.Greece's banks are still closed and the €60 (£43; $66)
    daily limit on cash machine withdrawals for Greeks, imposed on 28 June,
    remains in force. With a shortage of €20 notes, for many the withdrawal
    is in effect €50.

    null
    Crisis countdown
    ◾10 July: Greek parliament vote. ECB, EU and IMF discuss proposals at technical level
    ◾11 July: Eurozone finance ministers discuss plans (Brussels 13:00 GMT)
    ◾12 July: Eurogroup leaders meet (14:00 GMT) followed by summit of all 28 members
    of the European Union (16:00 GMT). Both Brussels
    ◾20 July: €3bn payment due from Greece to the European Central Bank

    Greek Scenario




    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33473779

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    The David Icke Video Cast - The Funny Money 'Crisis'



    Published on 10 Jul 2015


    12th July 2015. The David Icke - The Funny Money 'Crisis' - Watch the full video at http://www.davidicke.com


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    Eurosceptic Italian party delivers 200,000-signature petition for exiting euro

    By ickonic on 10th July 2015 Political Manipulation, The Money Scam



    Eurosceptic Italian party delivers 200,000-signature petition for exiting euro
    Published time: June 09, 2015 15:27




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    ‘Italian Eurosceptic ‘The Five Star Movement’ (M5S) has filed a new petition with
    200,000 signatures, calling for a referendum on the country’s exit from the
    Eurozone and Italy’s monetary future with the European bloc.

    The signatures were presented to the Senate on Tuesday, according to a post
    by movement leader Beppe Grillo on his blog.

    The movement wants a referendum by December at the earliest, and for it to
    be done by January 2016. The movement’s main message is not an exit from
    the European Union, but from the euro as a currency.’

    Read more....

    http://rt.com/news/266005-italy-anti-euro-petition/

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    Poland ‘ashamed and sorry’ for MEP’s Nazi salute to EU lawmakers

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    ‘Poland has issued an official apology for its right-wing MEP, who, in an
    ill-considered attempt to compare the EU policies to those of Nazi Germany,
    referenced an infamous Nazi slogan, “Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuehrer,”
    in front of the EU Parliament.

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    German-led motion to introduce integrated ticketing for travel across EU
    borders, Janusz Korwin-Mikke, leader of the Coalition of Polish Republic’s
    Renewal Freedom and Hope party, made a Nazi salute as a sign of objection
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    for the unification of everything.”’

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    Tsipras Betrays Referendum, Sells Out to the Banks

    By ickonic on 11th July 2015 Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation, The Money Scam






    Tsipras Betrays Referendum, Sells Out to the Banks


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    ‘Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras has proposed eleventh hour concessions to European
    central banks despite the overwhelming rejection of an austerity deal by the Greek people.

    He told Syriza lawmakers they must back reforms and keep the country in the euro. “We
    are confronted with crucial decisions,” he said during a party meeting, according to officials.
    “We got a mandate to bring a better deal than the ultimatum that the Eurogroup gave us,
    but certainly not given a mandate to take Greece out of the eurozone,” he added. The
    “cap-in-hand capitulation” proposal offered by Tsipras is strikingly similar to the harsh
    austerity measures rejected on July 5 by 61 percent of voters.

    In addition to heavy VAT or value added taxation, the plan calls for “strong disincentives to
    early retirement, incur penalties for early withdrawals, make all supplementary pension funds
    financed by own contributions” and other measures. Zero Hedge noted on Thursday “the truth
    is that while making some concessions, the Greek proposal may still be insufficient for Merkel,
    and certainly won’t be sufficient for the IMF due to the lack of real pension cuts.”’

    Read more: Tsipras Betrays Referendum, Sells Out to the Banks

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    Greek Government Approves Brutal Austerity Measures in Proposal to EU

    By ickonic on 11th July 2015 Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation, The Money Scam




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    ‘Greece’s Syriza-led government agreed to a massive new €13 billion (US$14.34 billion) package
    of austerity measures yesterday evening, less than a week after Sunday’s landslide “no” vote in
    a referendum on European Union (EU) austerity.

    The proposal would be the deepest package of cuts since the EU austerity drive began in Greece
    in late 2009. It goes well beyond the proposed €8 to 9 billion in cuts initially demanded by the
    EU in talks with Syriza.

    The 13-page proposal was submitted to the EU, International Monetary Fund (IMF) and European
    Central Bank (ECB) before the midnight deadline previously set by the institutions. In exchange
    for cuts, the Greek government is reportedly asking for a €53.5 billion ($59.2 billion) loan to the
    Greek state and some form of debt restructuring, allowing it to avoid state bankruptcy and remain
    in the euro currency area.’

    Read more: Greek Government Approves Brutal Austerity Measures in Proposal to EU

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../gree-j10.html

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    24 hours to save the euro: Germany prepares for a ‘temporary’ Greek exit as euro project on the brink of collapse

    By ickonic on 12th July 2015 Global Government, Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation, The Money Scam




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    THE TELEGRAPH...........

    24 hours to save the euro: Germany prepares for a 'temporary' Greek exit as euro project on the brink of collapse

    Berlin readies five-year expulsion plan for Greece, after Athens is accused of destroying the trust of its partners



    ‘The German government has begun preparations for Greece to be ejected from the eurozone, as the European
    Union faces 24 hours to rescue the single currency project from the brink of collapse.Finance ministers failed to
    break the deadlock with Greece over a new bail-out package, after nine hours of acrimonious talks as creditors
    accused Athens of destroying their trust. It leaves the future of the eurozone in tatters only 15 years after its inception.

    In a weekend billed as Europe’s last chance to save the monetary union, ministers will now reconvene on Sunday
    morning ahead of an EU leaders’ summit later in the evening, to thrash out an agreement or decide to eject
    Greece from the eurozone.’

    Read more: 24 hours to save the euro: Germany prepares for a ‘temporary’ Greek exit as euro project on the brink of collapse

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...-collapse.html
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    Brexit vote could trigger European free market ‘chain reaction’, say Swiss and Icelandic MPs

    By ickonic on 12th July 2015 Activism, Global Government, Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation




    ‘A British exit from the EU could spark a free market “chain reaction” across the continent,
    encouraging countries such as Denmark and Sweden to take control of their own destiny.

    Politicians from Switzerland and Iceland’s largest parties claim the UK would be able to stand
    outside of the EU, dismissing the idea that it could be left isolated as “nonsense”.

    Rather, Britain could emerge from the EU to enjoy a free-trade only relationship and become
    more prosperous, they argue.’

    Read more: Brexit vote could trigger European free market ‘chain reaction’, say Swiss and Icelandic MPs

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...andic-MPs.html

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    Vampire Banks Will Suck Greece Dry

    By ickonic on 12th July 2015 Corporate Crime, Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation, The Money Scam




    ‘Former Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis offers a clear explanation of what the euro-elites have been really
    up to in enforcing endless austerity on Greece.

    The popular line that Greeks need to pay the price for their years of profligacy and learn fiscal discipline is, as Varoufakis
    observes, cover for the euro-elites’ efforts to force European tax-payers to bail out yet again the recklessness of their
    nation’s banks. That is why the “debt relief” for Greece is helping the banks rather than ordinary Greeks.

    After the 2008 financial crash, the banks had to be saved from their reckless lending to individuals through deeply
    unpopular bail-outs (so-called QE, or “quantitative easing”).’

    Read more: Vampire Banks Will Suck Greece Dry

    http://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/20...ck-greece-dry/
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    Paul Craig Roberts on Greece

    By ickonic on 12th July 2015



    Published on 10 Jul 2015


    My talk with Dr Paul Craig Roberts about the financial situation controlling Greece,
    and the consequences of the Greeks staying in the Euro or leaving it. Paul explains
    what, who, has, is, and will be, influencing the situation, and what outcomes we might
    expect, and how Washington will no doubt be doing all they can to manipulate that
    outcome at any cost.

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