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    Hi Irishspirit,

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    Plan 'B'.....
    [...]
    I would suggest that the brewing battle of the Koreas is Plan C.

    Plan B being the (abandoned??) battle of the former British Crown colonials (India and Pakistan).

    Plan A being the (abandoned??) battle of Armageddon in the land of prophets, messiahs and moshiachs.

    Quote Since the former-powers-that-be are trapped in ritualistic, even reptilian, thinking, they will re-run one of their previous hits, which is to say, expect another 'gulf of tonkin' incident. Only this time in the seas off of Korea, and considerably more violent. In fact, judging from our emotional quantifiers and the steady erosion of emotional tone sums within the FPTB (Former ThePowersThatBe) entity in our modelspace, they will likely have to pretty much totally destroy at least 1/one large, American carrier group in the Gulf Of Tonkin Incident, Part Deaux.
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    Agreed. Of course, FUBARPTB would be a closer description.


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    In my reality I am choosing to visualize an outcome where war is not the answer this time. If we can get more of us on this site and others around the world to do the same, maybe just maybe, we can tip the scales toward a peaceful solution.
    What we really need is for people to WAKE UP. WE need the sort of peaceful protests we had before the Iraq war - only larger.

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    North Korea's undercover journalists reveal misery of life in dictatorship :


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...tatorship.html

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    North Korea's undercover journalists reveal misery of life in dictatorship :


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...tatorship.html
    But then again, so is the supposedly "better" Western world, except in this case, they are in chains, and they know it not.

    What better way to enslave someone than to do it without them being aware of it.

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    Plan 'B'.....

    with respect, and awareness, let us begin...

    They, the powers that used to be, are trying it again.

    You know, the whole 'problem, response, solution' thing that they use to control large numbers of mostly hypnotized people on this planet. They create a 'problem' that causes you to go into fear mode which is chemically triggered by the R-complex in your lower brain matrix, and then they control you through your emotions by manipulating events such that you agree to give them your power in exchange for them providing a 'solution' to the 'problem' that they caused.

    They had thought that their 'israel versus iran' problem would be sufficient to lever the planetary populace into a middle east focused global war. It did not work since so many of us were watching for so long.

    Note, and you may certainly argue with me, that the planetary populace focus on the potential for a [nu-war] beginning with the [israeli mistake] has contributed to the destruction of potential emotional energy for that war to exist. Also note i am not saying anything more than words from hph *participated* in the process of grounding that potential war. It works on an energetic level beyond the condensate matter plane which is the 'place' where your body, the planet, universe and all the pies exist. It works at this energetic level by concentrating 'attention' which is a form of 'directly focused consciousness (note...little 'c' consciousness, not BIG 'C"). This directly focused consciousness acts as a spot light may act on a particularly vulnerable area of a house, which is to say, preventing burglary and other mischief due to the 'exposure' to the whole neighborhood.

    So they fell back to Plan 'B'..... also please note that tptw (the powers that were) undoubtedly have Plan B as a bolded statement in their minds. This is due to their whole attitude of "we are the grown-ups in this world" and we have 'really really serious plans'. Yeah..right (sarcastic derision here).

    The Plan B, it appears, is to generate a war between amongst the Korean peoples. Nope, not as good as getting the whole planetary populace whipped up about the Israeli's and Jews versus the Farsi and Islamists, but hey? what can you do...it's a plan B. Ok, so mostly Korea is too far away from the energy (oil) center of the planet, (note that location matters to tptw in their majic plots, so to have to move their war is quite irritating indeed), and outside the usual emotional framework of the hundreds of millions of sheeple that tptw (the powers that were) are trying to herd, but what the hell. In cases of desperation, you take what you can get.

    So they are trying to promote this latest [nu-war] effort into their [coup-de-grace] that would, in their twisted reptilian minds, lead to WW3, then the N W O, and their wet dream of the great harvest of souls.

    They are desperately working their Plan B, this is, by the way, their response to the Chinese submarine continental ballistic missile signal off the coast of California. All this **** is connected...in case you were not paying attention. The Plan B, again as an aside, is no where near their ideal energy draining control-of-planetary-humans optimum, and they, that is the former powers-that-be, are in a desperate, and intensely fearful state, as they realize just how shaky their position has become. They know they are in deep and sinking fast.

    So look for them to be both stupid, and careless.

    Since the former-powers-that-be are trapped in ritualistic, even reptilian, thinking, they will re-run one of their previous hits, which is to say, expect another 'gulf of tonkin' incident. Only this time in the seas off of Korea, and considerably more violent. In fact, judging from our emotional quantifiers and the steady erosion of emotional tone sums within the FPTB (Former ThePowersThatBe) entity in our modelspace, they will likely have to pretty much totally destroy at least 1/one large, American carrier group in the Gulf Of Tonkin Incident, Part Deaux.

    Now please note...if you are ignorant of what the Gulf of Tonkin Incident is, and how it affected your life and the social fabric of the planet, you should go look it up now. We will wait till you get back...

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    North and South Korea move close to war footing
    North and South Korea have moved closer to a war footing around the Yellow Sea island targeted in last week's artillery strike as tensions in the region continue to rise.



    Pyongyang on Sunday moved SA2 surface-to-air missiles nearer to its Yellow Sea coast, according to South Korean military officials quoted by the Yonhap news agency. The officials said they also detected signs that North Korea was preparing multiple-launch rocket systems in the same area.
    North Korea issued fresh warnings of military action, threatening to "deal a merciless military counterattack" at any "intrusion" into its territorial waters. The rhetoric came as four days of US- South Korean naval exercises in the Yellow Sea, involving the aircraft carrier George Washington, got under way - a deployment which the Pyongyang regime says has brought the region to the "brink of war."
    The US has also agreed to a South Korean request to deploy the E8-C Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System (JSTARS), used in the 1991 Gulf War, according to military sources quoted by Yonhap. The deployment was approved by the US Defense Secretary, Robert Gates.
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    The former Republican presidential candidate, Senator John McCain, yesterday became the first senior US figure to advocate "regime change" in North Korea, though he insisted he was not supporting military action against the North.
    North Korea yesterday fired several artillery rounds inside its territory near the island of Yeongpyeong, triggering a brief outbreak of panic among journalists and the few remaining residents who feared a repeat of Tuesday's attack. All those on the island were ordered to take cover in bunkers for about 40 minutes.
    Late yesterday, the South Korean government expelled all journalists from Yeongpyeong, saying it could no longer guarantee their safety.
    South Korea last night reacted coolly to a proposal by China for emergency talks on the crisis. In its first significant intervention in the dispute, Beijing, North Korea's closest ally, suggested an urgent meeting later this week of the six nations which have been taking part in negotiations on Pyongyang's nuclear programme.
    But these so-called "six-party talks," involving the US, China, Japan, Russia and the two Koreas themselves, have been stalled for more than eighteen months amid mounting evidence that the North continues to race ahead with its nuclear programme. Earlier this month, Pyongyang unveiled an ultra-modern centrifuge facility to manufacture highly enriched uranium, a key ingredient in nuclear weapons.
    Washington and Seoul say the six-party talks should not resume until North Korea is prepared to make a serious offer of disarmament, insisting that Pynongyang must not be "rewarded" for bad behaviour.
    China's move is likely to confirm fears that North Korea staged last week's attack to strengthen its hand in the nuclear negotiations and get itself back to the table without needing to make concessions.
    "South Korea will take note of China's proposal," South Korea's foreign ministry said in a statement. "But holding a six-party chief delegates' meeting should be studied very carefully considering" North Korea's series of provocations, it said. President Lee Myung-bak was reported to have told a Chinese envoy that he would not accept the proposal.
    The naval exercise, being held at least fifty miles south of Yeongpyeong, involves about ten ships of the US and South Korean fleets. "The intensity for the Yellow Sea drills will be higher than planned," said an official of the South's Joint Chiefs of Staff.
    "Participating troops will conduct live-fire shooting and bombing drills."
    President Lee will address the nation later today (mon) amid growing public anger at his government's failure to deal more firmly with the crisis. The country remains on "Watchcon 2," only one alert level below all-out war.
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    Kim Jong-il 'laying the ground for succession' with military attacks
    Palace power-struggles between North Korea's new-generation political leadership and its hawkish military establishment could spark off a full war on the Peninsula, South Korean and US authorities are warning.

    By Praveen Swami, Diplomatic Editor 6:54PM GMT 28 Nov 2010
    Last week's attack on Yeonpyeong island, a senior South Korean defence official told The Daily Telegraph, was personally approved by North Korea's supreme leader, Kim Jong-il and his son and heir-apparent Kim Jong-un, in an effort to curry favour with hostile military hawks.
    "I fear we're going to see much more fighting in weeks to come," the official said.
    Hardship has mounted in North Korea ever since sanctions were imposed to punish its pursuit of nuclear weapons. Hundreds of North Korean soldiers are reported to have fled across the border into China seeking food in recent months. In August, a North Korean pilot's attempt to escape to Russia ended when his jet crashed in China's Liaoning province.

    But Kim Jong-il, US government sources said, is determined not to rejoin talks aimed at curbing North Korea's nuclear programme in return for aid, fearful of upsetting military leaders. He hopes precipitating a crisis will lead the generals to rally behind his son and compel South Korea and the West to engage in dialogue on his terms.
    Kim Jong-un was made a four-star general and named vice-chairman of the country's National Defence Commission in September – even though the Swiss-educated 27-year-old had no military experience. "The generals saw Kim Jong-un as a puppy who wasn't even lavatory trained," said Kongdan Oh Hassig, a North Korea expert, "not a credible leader. There was lots of fuming."
    Bruce Bennett, another North Korea specialist, said the succession left generals "asking themselves how much longer they would have a role in government". He noted that replacements of officials in North Korea "usually occur as the result of a purge or a 'traffic accident,' so that could be cause for some instability."
    "Every time there's been a succession in North Korea," Dr. Hassig noted, "you've had trouble, because the leadership has needed to reassure the military."
    Kim Jong-il ordered the bombing of a Korean Air plane in 1987, killing all 115, and an attack on officials which left 17 dead.
    Little noticed in the West, tensions with the military have often threatened North Korea's ruling family. In 1991-1992, there were reports that a group of generals had been planning to assassinate Kim Il-sung, in order to implement a programme of radical modernisation. Later, in 1995, elements of North Korea's VI corps in famine-hit North Hamgyong province almost revolted.
    "The Kims are playing the Crazed Fearsome Cripple Gambit," a US military official told The Daily Telegraph, referring to a term coined by the strategic analyst George Friedman.
    North Korea's regime, Mr Friedman argued, wilfully chose to be an economically-crippled state to make itself unattractive as a target for intervention. Then it sought to inspire fear by developing nuclear weapons.
    Finally, Mr Friedman argued, "having established that they were crippled and fearsome, the critical element was to establish their insanity". Since no one would wish for a nuclear-armed North Korea to engage in a crazed military adventure, it would give the regime what it wanted.
    Both Koreas are now holding out threats of further fighting. North Korea's official news agency warned on Saturday that the "situation on the Korean peninsula is inching closer to the brink of war".
    Lieutenant General Yoo Nak Joon, commander of the South Korean Marine Corps, meanwhile, called on his troops to "put our feelings of rage and animosity in our bones and take our revenge on North Korea".
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    Nuclear war? Please!!, if anything China will turn around and say you know publicly we will say blah blah blah, but if you guys need to go in, you have our approval just make sure you let us get our foot in the door on the reestablished parliament that put into place, China have their plans, and they very sneaky and devious, but the last thing they need is a war.

    The USA is the economic position Russia was just before the soviet collapse we can’t afford a war, and China does not believe America is worth the trouble, ultimately it’s not going to be long before they call the shots, as they are slowly becoming the landlords and were only the tenants.
    Now throw a date at me that predicts the next looming apocalypse because I don’t quite have enough manure to cover central park yet but were for sure getting there.

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    Tensions are heightening in the area around Yeonpyeong Island, with the confirmation that North Korean forces deployed multi-launch rocket systems (MLRSs) forward to a coastal location facing the island and opened additional naval artillery firing ports on Sunday, the first day of joint South Korea-U.S. exercises. The North Korean military was also reported to have stepped up its anti-air posture targeting aerial activity by South Korean fighter planes, with the forward deployment of SA-2 earth-to-air missiles in the area north of Baengnyeong and Yeonpyeong Islands.

    “The North Korean military was found to have deployed some of its 122 mm MLRSs forward to an inland area near Kaemori, from which the attack on Yeonpyeong Island was launched, and opened additional 76.2 mm naval artillery firing ports besides the previous fourteen locations,” said a military official said Sunday. “The South Korean military is also stepping up its alertness posture to prepare for a potential provocation situation.”

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    Fellow Koreans,

    Today, I am standing here keenly aware that I am responsible for not having been able to protect the lives and property of the people. I understand very well that you were greatly disappointed with how we responded to the shelling of Yeonpyeongdo (Yeonpyeong Island) by North Korea.

    I feel enormous frustration and regret over the fact that innocent lives were lost and the homes and livelihood of the islanders were devastated.

    I pray for the repose of the souls of Staff Sergeant Seo Jung-woo and Lance Corporal Moon Kwang-wook as well as the two civilian casualties-Mr. Kim Chi-baek and Mr. Bae Bok-chul. I also once again extend my heartfelt condolences to their families. I hope that those who were injured will recover quickly. I promise to urgently come up with the comprehensive measures to help the islanders of Yeonpyeongdo.

    Fellow citizens,
    North Korea's provocation this time was entirely different and unprecedented in nature. Since the end of the Korean War, the North has perpetrated numerous provocations, but it has never launched a direct attack onto our territory before. Making matters worse, it indiscriminately shelled the island where some 1,400 residents are peacefully living.

    A military attack against civilians is strictly prohibited even in time of war; it is a crime against humanity.

    Only a few meters away from where shells landed, there is a school where classes were going on. I am outraged by the ruthlessness of the North Korean regime, which is even indifferent to the lives of little children.
    Countries around the world are joining us in denouncing North Korea.

    We have thus far tolerated provocations by the North time and again. On January 21, 1968, North Korean commandos infiltrated into Seoul with the intent of killing the President. A bomb explosion in Rangoon, Burma, set off by North Korean agents, killed many high-ranking South Korean Government officials who were accompanying the President. The North has already tried and failed twice to kill the South Korean head of state. North Korean agents blew up a civilian airplane in 1987, taking the lives of 115 passengers.

    South Korea nonetheless endured these continual provocations because we entertained a slight hope that the North would change course someday and an unwavering commitment to peace on the Korean Peninsula. Over the past 20 years, therefore, South Korea has striven to resolve the North Korean nuclear issue through dialogue and collaboration while at the same time providing unstinted humanitarian assistance.

    North Korea, on the other hand, responded with a series of provocative acts, including the development of a nuclear program, the sinking of the Navy corvette Cheonan by an explosion and the shelling of Yeonpyeongdo.

    At long last, we came to a realization that it no longer makes sense for us to anticipate that the North would abandon its nuclear program or its policy of brinkmanship on its own. The South Korean people now unequivocally understand that prolonged endurance and tolerance will spawn nothing but more serious provocations.

    Those who have so far supported the North Korean regime might now see its true colors.

    We are aware of the historic lesson that a disgraceful peace achieved through intimidation only brings about greater harm in the end. Only courage that defies retreat under any threat or provocation will bring about genuine peace. If the North commits any additional provocations against the South, we will make sure that it pays a dear price without fail.

    I have confidence in the courage and potential of the citizens of Korea. We are a great people who, as of this year, have built the world's seventh largest export powerhouse in the face of the North's incessant menace and belligerence. In the current national crisis situation, the Korean people have demonstrated patriotism and composure.

    Many young men and women went to the wake of the young soldiers who were killed in action. Citizens have volunteered to collect donations and have gone about their business with fortitude. The Republic of Korea is going to be safe and sound because of you.

    There was a split in public opinion over the torpedoing of the Cheonan. Unlike that time, our people have united as one this time. Amid such unity and determination, any surreptitious attempt to create divisiveness in the nation will have no chance of success. Along with all the citizens of the Republic, I will never retreat.

    The international community, too, is supporting us. Leaders of the United States, Japan, Germany and the United Kingdom as well as Russia and many other countries condemned the act of brutality by the North and are standing in full support of our position. Especially, as our ally, the United States has demonstrated a strong resolve to respond by taking action.

    Fellow Koreans,
    The courageous members of our Armed Forces have fought well. Some soldiers dashed to fulfill their duties without even noticing that the camouflage on their helmets had caught fire in the barrage of live shells. Those who were on leave of absence promptly returned to their units.

    Citizens of Korea,
    From now on, the Government will do whatever is required of it without fail.

    The Government will establish Armed Forces that live up to their name. We will defend the five West Sea Islands near the northern sea border with a watertight stance against any kind of provocation. We will proactively carry out the defense reform as planned in order to make our Armed Forces even stronger.

    Fellow Koreans,
    Now is the time we have to demonstrate our determination with actions rather than many words.

    I plead with you to have confidence in the Government and the Armed Forces and rally around our cause.

    Unity is the best national security measure.

    Thank you very much.
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    Obviously - Don't take this as Gospel

    But Ben Fulford has a different take on why North Korea shelled South Korea.

    Quote Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis101129: North Korean attack linked to dismantling of North Korean spy network in Japan.

    Last week’s North Korean artillery barrage against South Korea was a response to the arrest of Yamaguchi gumi Yakuza syndicate number two Kiyoshi Takayama. Takayama was a senior North Korean agent in Japan and his arrest was part of the dismantling of the North Korean spy network in Japan. The arrest also marks a fundamental change in the secret Japanese government and is part of a comprehensive defeat for the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate and their proxies. The Feds have responded by trying to start a war in the Korean Peninsula. They are also threatening to seize Japanese owned-factories in North America, starting with Toyota and Honda.
    http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

    Like I said before, Don't believe anything that Fulford says but he does make a bit of sense here. Don't shoot the messenger!
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    Another interesting combination of events. What truth is contained in either is up for debate, but there they are as an interesting pair:

    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/napol...t27nov10.shtml

    Napolitano Halts Shipment of Packages from Japan as Prelude to Civilian 'Shipper' ID Lockdown (Nov. 27, 2010)

    For TV entertainment, we normally watch video tapes of Japanese TV sent to us by my wife's relatives living in Japan. We were just notified today from the relative in Japan who sends the box with the tapes that he couldn't send the box to the USA, but the Japanese postal clerk didn't know why when asked for the reason.

    We then took a look at Japanese postal web sites to try to find out what's going on and discovered that Janet Napolitano, loyal minion of the NWO takeover agenda and obedient lapdog to the Indonesian Usurper in the White House, had set up new Department of Homeland Security (DHS) shipping restrictions on November 17, 2010 that blocks the shipping of any NON COMMERCIAL parcel into the United States that weighs more than 0.9 pounds (under 16 ounces) without first supplying the Social Security number (or taxpayer ID number) of the RECEPIENT of the package (and it's likely that the new DHS shipping restriction will soon also apply to detailed ID requirements on the part of the person sending the package as well).


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    And Fulford: Same as Jack's quote, above.

    I also recall back in 1993(?) or so, when Bush I was in the hot seat, that Toyota tried to bring a 'over-unity' motored car into the US. Timeline wise that was seemingly the point of the origin of the, at that time, big import tax or duty proposed against all Toyota vehicles imported, combined with a direct attack against Toyota and attempt to shut down their US factories. The car supposedly had a Minato motor derivative in it as a motive device, and required nothing. Zip. Nada. Just go. (The Minato motor is an over unity motor, electromagnetic and magnet based, from Japan)


    The information on the Toyota/Minato vehicle came over the Reuters news service line and had disappeared after ONE news reading, within minutes of it's original issuance.

    if I had not been there for it, I never would have believed it.

    I was sharing a space with my Brother at the time. He heard it on his alarm clock about 10:am or so in the morning. he got up..and immediately called the office of the radio station to get the specifics. The DJ had the original piece of paper in his hand,and had read it onto the air in the morning news slot for 10am. He went back to the teletype electronic set up they had and found that when he tried to get the original and get more or alternative information..that it was wholly gone. Nothing. Zip, nada. All that remained was the original sheet of printed paper in the radio Station DJ's hand.

    That is when the mid/early-90's attack on Japanese imports by Bush I began? Right after that. It may not have been Bush, Clinton was in office by then, maybe. But that is the sequence of events, from my person bit of intrigue I seemingly found or stumbled into.
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    Nuclear war? Please!!, if anything China will turn around and say you know publicly we will say blah blah blah, but if you guys need to go in, you have our approval just make sure you let us get our foot in the door on the reestablished parliament that put into place, China have their plans, and they very sneaky and devious, but the last thing they need is a war.

    The USA is the economic position Russia was just before the soviet collapse we can’t afford a war, and China does not believe America is worth the trouble, ultimately it’s not going to be long before they call the shots, as they are slowly becoming the landlords and were only the tenants.

    Now throw a date at me that predicts the next looming apocalypse because I don’t quite have enough manure to cover central park yet but were for sure getting there.

    I remember thinking something similar when it was stated that South Korea has just found a large deposit of its own rare earths, SK stated that it could no longer be reliant on China for these minerals and wants to be self sufficiant.I could imagine China wanting to get its hands on those Rare Earths to futher strengthen its strangle hold over the west and world in general. Just let them fight it out and then China can move in control the whole area.
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    Seoul warns: 'dear price' if North Korea attacks again

    Seoul, South Korea (CNN) -- South Korean President Lee Myung-bak warned Monday that North Korea will face severe consequences if it launches another military attack across its southern border.

    "If the North commits any additional provocations against the South, we will make sure that it pays a dear price without fail," he said in a nationally televised address.

    "We are aware of the historic lesson that a disgraceful peace achieved through intimidation only brings about greater harm in the end."

    South Korea has reportedly deployed more long-range artillery and rocket launchers on Yeonpyeong Island, a border island struck by a North Korean shelling last week, according to military officials.

    The officials' remarks were reported Monday by the Yonhap news agency in Seoul.

    The report comes as joint military exercises between South Korea and the United States continue in the Yellow Sea and tensions with North Korea continue to brew.

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    Quote Posted by kinsuemei2 (here)
    Nuclear war? Please!!, if anything China will turn around and say you know publicly we will say blah blah blah, but if you guys need to go in, you have our approval just make sure you let us get our foot in the door on the reestablished parliament that put into place, China have their plans, and they very sneaky and devious, but the last thing they need is a war.

    The USA is the economic position Russia was just before the soviet collapse we can’t afford a war, and China does not believe America is worth the trouble, ultimately it’s not going to be long before they call the shots, as they are slowly becoming the landlords and were only the tenants.
    Now throw a date at me that predicts the next looming apocalypse because I don’t quite have enough manure to cover central park yet but were for sure getting there.
    Any war involving China and the US will lead to Nuclear war! I cannot see any other way around that. Do I think that China/US want war with each other? NO! However, do I see them allowing America and the South overthrowing the North? NO! Why? Because China has a vested interest in the North. China can use the North to its own advantage. To say that China will say to America "we want a stajke in who you put in ans that we want in with you"; shows a level of ignorance that I am quite surprised at.

    Do you really think that China will allow America to build on it's empire within their Region of the world? Really, come on!

    Yes, China is slowly taking over not just Asia, but indeed the World! However, they have done it in a way which has earned them Friends! Not through pure aggression and force, but through smart lending and excellent trade agreements. Unlike Americas which has used force and aggression . However, China is a massive Dog that I would not want taking a bite out of me.

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    thanks Wiki...

    Quote Wikileaks reveals China ready for reunified Korea and ready to abandon North Korea
    Quote In highly sensitive discussions in February this year, the-then South Korean vice-foreign minister, Chun Yung-woo, told a US ambassador, Kathleen Stephens, that younger generation Chinese Communist party leaders no longer regarded North Korea as a useful or reliable ally and would not risk renewed armed conflict on the peninsula

    • South Korea's vice-foreign minister said he was told by two named senior Chinese officials that they believed Korea should be reunified under Seoul's control, and that this view was gaining ground with the leadership in Beijing.

    • China's vice-foreign minister told US officials that Pyongyang was behaving like a "spoiled child" to get Washington's attention in April 2009 by carrying out missile tests.



    • A Chinese ambassador warned that North Korean nuclear activity was "a threat to the whole world's security".

    • Chinese officials assessed that it could cope with an influx of 300,000 North Koreans in the event of serious instability, according to a representative of an international agency, but might need to use the military to seal the border.

    South Korean vice-foreign minister, Chun Yung-woo, said the PRC would be comfortable with a reunified Korea controlled by Seoul and anchored to the US in a 'benign alliance' – as long as Korea was not hostile towards China. Tremendous trade and labour-export opportunities for Chinese companies, Chun said, would also help 'salve' PRC concerns about … a reunified Korea.

    A senior Chinese official, speaking off the record, also said China's influence with the North was frequently overestimated. But Chinese public opinion was increasingly critical of the North's behaviour, the official said, and that was reflected in changed government thinking.
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    Cool down irish spirit... especially with your claims concerning a definite nucleair war in case of a hypothetical fight between China and the US.

    Rocky_Shorz is right, China is divided about the usefulness of North Korea. They prefer the steady but not threatening presence of the west rather than a communist fool's son with a nucleair army in Korea.

    Nucleair war is impossible nowadays, the only reason nucleair arsenals still exist is for the sole purpose to terrify potential enemies into never attacking the concerning nucleair superpower.
    It's a weapon that's most effective when never fired.

    You end your post with peace, maybe you should trust a little more in peace.
    I'm sorry for my agitation, I read a lot on Avalon these days and I keep on reading posts from people just shouting around their first thoughts or fears when the actual true information/sitrep can be found just around the corner.

    It's a forum of truth, as it should remain. A lot is happening right now:
    - financial crisis
    - korea crisis
    - wikileaks
    - oil spill
    - worldwide tensions
    - missile launches
    - extreme winter coming up
    - massive protests against reforms

    It's imperative we keep our heads cool and seperate FACT from fiction and personal fears.
    So bring your sources when making a claim

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    Quote Posted by Elandiel BernElve (here)
    Cool down irish spirit... especially with your claims concerning a definite nucleair war in case of a hypothetical fight between China and the US.

    Rocky_Shorz is right, China is divided about the usefulness of North Korea. They prefer the steady but not threatening presence of the west rather than a communist fool's son with a nucleair army in Korea.

    Nucleair war is impossible nowadays, the only reason nucleair arsenals still exist is for the sole purpose to terrify potential enemies into never attacking the concerning nucleair superpower.
    It's a weapon that's most effective when never fired.

    You end your post with peace, maybe you should trust a little more in peace.
    I'm sorry for my agitation, I read a lot on Avalon these days and I keep on reading posts from people just shouting around their first thoughts or fears when the actual true information/sitrep can be found just around the corner.

    It's a forum of truth, as it should remain. A lot is happening right now:
    - financial crisis
    - korea crisis
    - wikileaks
    - oil spill
    - worldwide tensions
    - missile launches
    - extreme winter coming up
    - massive protests against reforms

    It's imperative we keep our heads cool and seperate FACT from fiction and personal fears.
    So bring your sources when making a claim

    Love & Peace
    I am not stating a definite nuclear war. I do not even say a definite war! However, that is the way it will go should it kick off.

    You stated that they prefer a western presence and not a "communist fool's son with a nuclear army in Korea", when China itself is a communist state with an unknown nuclear arm, no doubt having supplied the North with them.

    To say Nuclear war is impossible is, in my view, wrong! Did they not say that it was impossible to attack the twin towers with planes? But it was done! Regardless by whom it was. Some nut job President in America, (and lets be honest they are not short of them) or a fool like the President of Korea to hit a switch. These are not restrained men! These are evil deranged man, with nothing to loss.

    However, under no circumstances do I want a nuclear war, or any other type of war.

    Remember this?

    MORE than half of Chinese people questioned in a poll believe China and America are heading for a new “cold war”.

    The finding came after battles over Taiwan, Tibet, trade, climate change, internet freedom and human rights which have poisoned relations in the three months since President Barack Obama made a fruitless visit to Beijing.

    According to diplomatic sources, a rancorous postmortem examination is under way inside the US government, led by officials who think the president was badly advised and was made to appear weak.

    In China’s eyes, the American response — which includes a pledge by Obama to get tougher on trade — is a reaction against its rising power.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7017951.ece

    It would not take much for the cold to turn into the hot. Remember who we are dealing with!!!

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    Seoul, South Korea: Last week's deadly attack on Yeonpyeong island has escalated military and diplomatic tensions on the Korean Peninsula, and for some in the South Korean capital, Seoul, there is an increasing fear of North Korean retaliation.

    Hence, evacuation centres were being prepared in the city on Monday, amidst mounting tensions.

    There are 3919 emergency shelters across Seoul - many are housed in subway stations or underground carparks.

    According to local officials, evacuation shelters can be easily reached by everyone within five minutes and can accommodate more than 20 million people.

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/so...shelters-69600

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    US, Japan, South Korea to meet soon over crisis

    Seoul, South Korea (CNN) -- Government ministers from the United States, Japan and South Korea will sit down in Washington early next month to grapple with the tensions in the Koreas, South Korea's Foreign Affairs Ministry said Tuesday.

    The ministry did not provide further details about the date of the meeting, but it comes as China continues to call for an emergency meeting of the six major powers involved in talks about the Korean peninsula.

    This diplomatic activity reflects efforts to lower anxieties in the Koreas, which have been at a boiling point since last Tuesday, when four people died and 18 others were injured in a North Korean artillery barrage that targeted Yeonpyeong Island in South Korea's part of the Yellow Sea.

    The war of words got louder when South Korea and the United States launched joint anti-submarine military exercises in the Yellow Sea on Monday, a move that drew North Korean ire.

    Being North Korea's largest trading partner and strongest ally, China has been urged by the international community to confront the crisis. It has been meeting with both North and South Korea and it has engaged in diplomacy over the matter.

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    North Korea is controlled by the military industrial complex in western world?


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    Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis101129: North Korean attack linked to dismantling of North Korean spy network in Japan

    Last week’s North Korean artillery barrage against South Korea was a response to the arrest of Yamaguchi gumi Yakuza syndicate number two Kiyoshi Takayama. Takayama was a senior North Korean agent in Japan and his arrest was part of the dismantling of the North Korean spy network in Japan. The arrest also marks a fundamental change in the secret Japanese government and is part of a comprehensive defeat for the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate and their proxies. The Feds have responded by trying to start a war in the Korean Peninsula. They are also threatening to seize Japanese owned-factories in North America, starting with Toyota and Honda.
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    The information has been indicating for the past few years that the Nuclear capacity in N. Korea is directly associated with the Bush (via Pakistan) regime, at least in some circles....that's the story.

    Hard to say about any of this.
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