Could this really be Planet X?

[irishspirit]

Interesting video on Nibiru.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByD3ni8VPic

Very Interesting Presentation Here:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_GeAy2MCzc

Playlist here:


http://www.youtube.com/user/FloydAnd.../0/q_GeAy2MCzc



Irish Spirit

[Gita]

I used the coordinated given (6h 42m 8.44, 41 40 18.94) but it's conveniently blocked out by Google. Bless their little hearts. Hmmm!!

[Solphilos]

I've been watching this object on and off for the past few months, never even considered that that is what it might be. I just checked google sky, and the location that is censored with there little trademark box is the same exact location as the "star" I've been watching. Very, very interesting to say the least. I suggest anyone that doesn't own a telescope to purchase one soon, never know when they may become banned!

[bashi]

Relax, it is Mars. Confirmed!

[Kulapops]

Erm... Mars is currently just off the two stars at the top of the constellation of Gemini right now. Unmistakeable. Orion is nowhere near this. Actually, Orion's belt is so close to the Horizon in the UK just now (we're at 50+ deg lat) that you'd have a job seeing any stars for houses on the Horizon. So either the chap in the video lives somewhere where he can see Orion clearly or it's not Mars... or... well...it IS Mars and Mars is nowhere near Orion just now...

Need some more facts please, but Mars looks quite bright and orange and high up in the sky just now.

Hello Gita :0)... I'm just passing through.... :0)

K x

[bashi]

This guy does not know the sky. He can't name surrounding stars. He does not use a common sky-map program downloadable for free. Otherwise he would have found out by himself that it is Mars.

Please consider that the vid was made on the 18th March, not today.
Lock at this vid from the same guy:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRKWjg9QOs

Then follow the path of the camera from Orions belt to the star synchronous on a star map. It will lead you EXACTLY to the position of Mars on the 18th March.

The coordinates he is giving are indeed pointing into a black area at google sky near NGC2281. But its not where the star/Mars was on the 18th.

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[yiolas]

Hi Guys, There's a bit of news on the Earth Changes and Pole Shift site
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/b...age=2#comments

This lady and her husband were travellling along the Alberta, Canada U.S. boarder when they spoted this with their bare eyes, then took a picture.

This is how she describes the moment: "I took the photo in southern Alberta near the US. boarder, about 1o days ago while my husband and I were driving back from the Calgary Stampede. The picture was taken from our car. My husband saw it first and gave me his sunglasses, my mouth dropped open when I saw it! "

It would be nice if someone could do a search to see what planets could be seen just above the western horizon at sunset in the area of Alberta, Canada about 10 days ago. This might rule any planets out. I think that the only optical illusion here is that being near the horizon it makes it look larger than it really is.
It does not look like a sun dog because it is partially obscured by the clouds.
What do you guys think ?


Here is the picture:

[viking]

Hi Yiola ...yes that looks pretty convincing, I saw that article as well....I have noticed that more and more folks are looking to the skies these days and noticing strange anomolies...thats a good link for info regarding Planet X and there are loads of piccies of these strange bodies in the skies!!! And there are not all sun dogs!!!

If there is something up there then I am sure we will see more and more!!!

viking

[viking]

Oh incidentely there is an interesting discussion going on here http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/b...age=4#comments whether it is Planet X or not!!!

viking

[Solace]

Yeah, sure. It must be Planet-X!!!!! Thousands and thousands of astronomers watching the sky right now, and they can't notice a ****** huge planet? This whole Planet-X thing is ridiculous, imo. This is the best way to discredit a forum. Way to go!

[viking]

Posted by Solace (here)
Yeah, sure. It must be Planet-X!!!!! Thousands and thousands of astronomers watching the sky right now, and they can't notice a ****** huge planet? This whole Planet-X thing is ridiculous, imo. This is the best way to discredit a forum. Way to go!

Ok clever clogs...lets try to discredit the photo?? What do you think it is?? Intelligently of course!!

viking

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by viking (here)
Ok clever clogs...lets try to discredit the photo?? What do you think it is?? Intelligently of course!!

viking

Viking, the sunset photo is a sundog - we've had this conversation before on other threads!!

[yiolas]

Hi everyone ! With all due respect Bill, how can it be a sundog when the person capturing the photo says that she saw it with her bare eyes before taking the picture ? Unless she is lying !
I think the sundog explanation is not correct.
I will get back soon with planet positions in that general area and time ?

Excuse me Solace why can't we have an open discussion about the topic of Planet X ?
Are you or is anyone else 100% sure that it does not exist ? Does it expressly state in the by-laws of the forum that we cannot discuss and explore this topic.

[viking]

Bill, yes we have had this discussion before and I had stated that sun dogs are directly in line east and west ... not sitting slightly below the sun...

Now this is what a typical sun dog looks like here



I'm not saying that is Planet X ...but what I am saying, in my humble opinion it is not a sun dog!!!

viking

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Hi everyone ! With all due respect Bill, how can it be a sundog when the person capturing the photo says that she saw it with her bare eyes before taking the picture ? Unless she is lying !
I think the sundog explanation is not correct.
I will get back soon with planet positions in that general area and time ?

Excuse me Solace why can't we have an open discussion about the topic of Planet X ?
Are you or is anyone else 100% sure that it does not exist ? Does it expressly state in the by-laws of the forum that we cannot discuss and explore this topic.

Hi there -

Yes, I do think 'Planet X' may well exist. It may be a brown dwarf star. See Andy Lloyd's excellent website http://www.darkstar1.co.uk. I've talked at length with Bill Deagle about this personally.

If it's a brown dwarf, it radiates in the infrared and is maybe somewhere around the orbit of Jupiter, sweeping in form the south. That's one very plausible reason for the SPT (the South Pole Telescope).

a) There's no way it's going to be right next to the sun - it would have been noticed in the last eclipse! And if it was this close we'd certainly know about it as the geophysical effects would be significant (and that may be an understatement).

b) No-one's going to take snapshot of it with a digital camera at sunset, and take tens of thousands of amateur astronomers completely by surprise!

c) Sunset is when sundogs almost always appear. They can be seen with the naked eye, and are not a lens flare artifact - they are formed by refractions between cloud layers (basically). They're like a sort of mirage (again, very basically). They DO usually look like the image Viking posted - but not always.

[yiolas]

I went to the Stardone at Astronomy.com . Input Alberta,Canada Date: July 15, 2010 . This is what I got. Go to the link yourself and plug in the information.


http://www.astronomy.com/asy/stardome/default.aspx

PDF picture of the web page, using above info.

http___www.astro&#110.pdf

[viking]

hello again ...

I have just gone through 15 pages of sun dogs here http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en...og&sa=N&tab=wi and not one of them looks like the picture Yiola has posted...They are 2 different things, as I have said before I have seen sun dogs on many occasions and the picture Yiola has presented in my opinion is not sun dog!!

viking

[Operator]

I am absolutely no astronomer ... but my logic tells me that half a year later we are at the other side from the sun. IF this would be an object approaching from the direction
of he sun at one time it should be "in our backside view" half a year later. And this 'object' seems always to be near the sun ...

The only thing that (in theory) would hold is an object with the same orbital time like earth opposite to our relative (to the sun) position. With the (amateur) astronomers getting
better and better you would think that they would even find a brown dwarf if it was within our solar system.

Maybe there is another theory possible that is not even discussed here ... our thought pattern is about objects that we can see and are supposed to approach our solar system ...
The film "2010, the year we make contact" came to mind ... what if an object would enter our solar system "stargate style" ?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Operator (here)
what if an object would enter our solar system "stargate style" ?

Would be like dropping a very big rock in the gravitational pond... I think we would feel the splash!

[observer]

Perhaps I can shed some light on this subject from the perspective of an observer:

• First of all, the image one sees on free internet programs like GoogleSky, Space Telescope, etc. are (for the most part) several years old. The combined image is a collage of multiple surveys of our universe. These images come from many different sources.
  
  
• To assume one of the air shafts in the pyramids could point to Planet X is ludicrous. The constellation Orion moves across the night sky; just as all the other constellations move across the sky. Orion is just to the South of the "plane of the ecliptic" in the area of Cancer, Pisces and Taurus. Once a year (for a period of several months) Orion can be seen crossing the night sky; each night progressing a little further from the East to the West - right along with its relationship to Cancer, Pisces and Taurus. To view a celestial body within the constellation of Orion from an air shaft in the Pyramid, one would need the ability to turn the pyramid structure on at least two axis - just like a telescope.
  
  
• Orion is generally considered a Northern constellation, i.e. predominantly visible from the Northern Hemisphere. The alleged path of Nibiru/Planet X is said to be a long period elliptical orbit only visible (at this time) from the Southern Hemisphere. Any object discovered in the area of Orion from the Northern Hemisphere in 1982, and on an incoming trajectory to the center of our solar system, would (long ago) have passed out of sight from any location in the Northern Hemisphere.
  
  
• Planets of our solar system always appear within the "Plane of the Elliptic" (that same narrow band where the constellations of the Zodiac appear). Whenever prominent planets appear in the sky (for instance Mars or Venus) the internet is filled with uninformed reports of Nibiru. I've been observing this phenomenon since I first got a computer in the late nineties.
  
  
• Trust my observations. There are thousands of professional and armature astronomers watching the night sky each and every night. If there were a Planet X within our inner solar system, "real" evidence of it would be all over the Net.

Please, learn at least the basics before you post. It saves so much time for others interested in the topic....