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    I was about 8 years old when I saw a largeing glow block in Birmingham on a warm summer night. At this time a relative was called over to see what I was seeing through a window and he said it was an aeroplane, I asked where are the wings, and he said on the side and then walked off.

    I thought at the time this was very strange, since he was a interested in the UFO since his encounters in the mid 1960s. I asked a neighbour the following day if he saw anything and he described the same thing as I saw on that night, so it begs the question can they control people to make them see what they want you to see....it seems to be to be the case, and how many more encounters have occurred like this I wonder?

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    Hi bogeyman,

    Ive read of many instances where these things happen. For instance, an airplane flies into a cloud and emerges as a ufo, or vice versa. This occurs multiple times in the John Keel book, The Mothman Prophecies.

    These ufo's can control perception and work on one's mind. One man told me he and his friends saw the huge classic "black triangle" while camping once...and he explained how he felt it responding to their emotions and how they responded to it's emotions. He described it as a kind of emotional communication. Anyway, this thing eventually made its way down the river. Hours later he asked his friends (who were fishing on the river at the time) if they'd seen the triangle, as there was no way they could have missed it.They said they only saw a Cessna airplane!

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Hi bogeyman,

    Ive read of many instances where these things happen. For instance, an airplane flies into a cloud and emerges as a ufo, or vice versa. This occurs multiple times in the John Keel book, The Mothman Prophecies.

    These ufo's can control perception and work on one's mind. One man told me he and his friends saw the huge classic "black triangle" while camping once...and he explained how he felt it responding to their emotions and how they responded to it's emotions. He described it as a kind of emotional communication. Anyway, this thing eventually made its way down the river. Hours later he asked his friends (who were fishing on the river at the time) if they'd seen the triangle, as there was no way they could have missed it.They said they only saw a Cessna airplane!
    Yes. What Keel says over and over again, in both The Mothman Prophesies and in Our Haunted Planet, is that they mess with our perceptions and belief systems. Not only that, but they are liars.

    Emanuel Swedenborg said the same thing. From page 19 of Our Haunted Planet,
    Quote "When spirits begin to speak with a man, he must beware that he believe nothing that they say. For nearly everything they say is fabricated by them and they lie; for if they are permitted to narrate anything, as what heaven is and how things in the heavens are to be understood, they would tell so may lies that a man would be astonished. This they would do with solemn affirmation...Wherefore men must beware and not believe them..."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Swedenborg

    addition Keel also says that what you see depends upon your frame of reference. This is very important, IMO.
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    How interesting. Another angle could be that, in some cases at least, it's a matter of people seeing what they're ready to see. Our physical minds seamlessly project what we can perceive, according to our present belief system.
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    How interesting. Another angle could be that, in some cases at least, it's a matter of people seeing what they're ready to see. Our physical minds seamlessly project what we can perceive, according to our present belief system.
    Yes, but the kicker is that (according to John Keel) many, indeed most, of our belief systems were given to us by the UTs (Ultra-terrestrials) themselves. Just my opinion, but Our Haunted Planet is a must-read.

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    How interesting. Another angle could be that, in some cases at least, it's a matter of people seeing what they're ready to see. Our physical minds seamlessly project what we can perceive, according to our present belief system.
    Yes, but the kicker is that (according to John Keel) many, indeed most, of our belief systems were given to us by the UTs (Ultra-terrestrials) themselves. Just my opinion, but Our Haunted Planet is a must-read.
    Good point. Yes, until we become aware of this dynamic, most of our beliefs would have originated from others, and, with the nature of the subconscious mind being the way it is, it's not real easy to shake those limiting belief systems. Thanks for the reading suggestion, I'm intrigued.
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    How interesting. Another angle could be that, in some cases at least, it's a matter of people seeing what they're ready to see. Our physical minds seamlessly project what we can perceive, according to our present belief system.
    Yes, but the kicker is that (according to John Keel) many, indeed most, of our belief systems were given to us by the UTs (Ultra-terrestrials) themselves. Just my opinion, but Our Haunted Planet is a must-read.
    Good point. Yes, until we become aware of this dynamic, most of our beliefs would have originated from others, and, with the nature of the subconscious mind being the way it is, it's not real easy to shake those limiting belief systems. Thanks for the reading suggestion, I'm intrigued.
    You can see how it would be a self-sealing system:

    --first, they give us our belief systems

    --our belief systems form our frame of reference

    --our frame of reference forms our perceptions

    --our perceptions, formed by our frame of reference, reinforces our beliefs

    which

    --reinforces our frame of reference

    and so on. It forms a self-sealing system...a loop, a treadmill.

    The study of this kind of thing is in its infancy. In 1988 Janja Lalich published Bounded Choice: True Believers and Charismatic Cults.

    Here is a 16-page pdf that gives you an idea of what the book is about:

    http://cultresearch.org/pdf/bc_in_csr.pdf

    It is my opinion that the Bounded Choice model can be applied to the UFO phenomenon, too, and help us free our minds.

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    they have technology to shield themselves from view ... it is so precise they can use line of site , if your stand in the beam you can see them , step to the left or right and you cannot ... they could walk up to you and hand you a piece of paper that is blank and make you think it had the credentials you needed to see ... for what it's worth , there is three UFO's that follow the sunset , until someone points them out , the mind control won't let you see them ... they seem to fall straight down and then freeze in the sky ... I showed them to my daughter last time she came down , and now she calls me around sunset when she's driving and says , I see them again , I can't believe I never noticed them ... I've heard they are objects out of our timespace ... a couple times a week you have about a 30 minute window , walk out and watch the sunset , you'll notice three objects that look like meteors , with small tails that seem to fall straight down and then they will freeze in the air ... James Horak talked about them , it made me glad , I thought I was the only one seeing them until I heard a radio broadcast where he talked about them ... I've watched them for over two years and no one ever talked about them , so I kept it to myself ...
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    Quote Posted by Rachael (here)
    How interesting. Another angle could be that, in some cases at least, it's a matter of people seeing what they're ready to see. Our physical minds seamlessly project what we can perceive, according to our present belief system.
    There is a story about the Native Americans not seeing Columbus' ships on the horizon because they had no frame of reference for that particular visual. I think any teacher can tell you that a student learns when a student is ready to learn and not before.

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    On a related note:
    How many times do/have you heard reports of the craft seemingly responding as soon as they where spotted,
    as if they new you saw it/them and moved away and or did xyz
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    Spooky action at a distance, coupled quantum function, that reality is emergent, it arises from a living intelligent information field. As do you.

    One dimension of many, time does not exist, except as a phenomena emergent from a 2d field paring, a resultant angular/offset resonant viewpoint bubble, such as this thing you think you are, this reality you think is.
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