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    Default Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    Hi Everyone, I'm going through a difficult time in my personal life and have a feeling its something other members here have experienced, so I'd like to see if anyone has advice/observations that could help myself and others going through the same thing. I'd like to thank you in advance if you end up reading all this, its much appreciated.

    So my situation is this, I've been studying consistently for the past 6-7 years all topics that frequent this forum, ETs, Conspiracies, Consciousness, Spirituality, etc. Its been an emotional roller coaster as you know, but this past year I've felt better about life than ever before. I feel connected to all and am able to flow with life without letting it get me down too much, however I've discovered it is a lonely road.

    I have a freelance job that keeps me constantly busy, but somewhat isolated since I don't work at an office with many co-workers. I only interact with a few people on a regular day, also being married doesn't leave me with much of a social life. So with the time I have, I focus on my career, my marriage and home life, and my own personal studies. I've always been a loner type so it doesn't bother me, but now I see my lack of attention towards personal relationships has started to create issues that need to be dealt with.

    I don't think I'm better because I on the path of awakening, but its hard for me to interact with old friends and family that haven't grown much over the years. I don't want to talk about the same old meaningless bull**** and drama, but when I try to talk about something truthful, it never works out. Either I'm using the wrong words or people just don't want to hear it. I can't force them to change, but I can't hang around their vibrations anymore. Its sad to not see people anymore, but I can't pretend either.

    A little backstory, I'm American and my wife is from Japan so culture difference is a major factor. She's been having drama interacting with my family and I'm caught in the middle trying to create peace. Both my wife and my family are a bit hot headed and not into spiritual/consciousness growth, but they all think they're good mannered, stand up people.

    I see it that we're all different, yet all one, and there's no real problems, just perceptions of problems. However, I've found this explanation doesn't work for people that are pissed off, thinking they deserve an apology from someone. When the drama has been at its highest, I just feel like all my studies have been for nothing because I can't even figure out how to settle my own family disputes. I feel quite useless and utterly confused.

    For now, I have to side with my pregnant wife to make sure she stays calm and relaxed for her and our baby's health. Meanwhile my family thinks I'm turning on them.

    Even though my studies continue to give me great insights and feelings of positivity. I have yet to figure out how to help my loved ones around me. And that's where I'm at now. Again, thank you if you've read this far. I hope if there's others out there dealing with the same problems we can start a conversation and help each other out. Take care all.

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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    My friend, you are so welcome here in Avalon and thanks from my heart for your truthfull thread share.
    First thing CONGRATULATIONS budy you´re going to have a baby, awesome news bbro.
    Second, you need to differenciat the problems, the first one is you are growing, congratulations once again, wife, job, etc... go with the flow, stay strong... this is not big deal. The second is more tricky. There is a sentence that helped me :" We are all the same, the only diference is the stage of evolution anyone is in"... You are starting to vibrate in a diference resonance that the ones usually around you, don´t worry either... you´ll started to attrack people in the same vibration. My advise: keep open, i know you are in the right direction, no doubt. Don´t have hope but trust.
    JTA you are not alone and never have been.
    Mucho LOVE bro

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    To deal with this it might be worth to add some more focus on what interests to focus on each relationship and also learn about the relationship what interests work and what don't, as well as about the interests themselves related to you. Because if 90% of your relationships are about the least interesting interests, then that's an issue. It's important to be truthful about where the excitement lies from moment to moment, this can sometimes shift a lot, also among the persons you have relationships with. So my idea to you is simply to focus more on your excitement from moment to moment and then based on that bring in various relationships into that. In this way you will build on various relationships one by one, which is also more long term than trying to please everybody always.

    Also, I think it can help to be clear about this with the various relationships, not in a way that excludes them from showing your other sides and interests, but so that they can show you what they are interested in, so that you can understand how to engage in each relationship and also how to mix new combinations of relationships. This can help create a social context that is easy to understand, that constantly evolves and that works for you.

    Good luck bro!!
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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    Avec you pardon WhiteLove; ofcoure by interest you mean "what your heart is telling you"(if i know you a little).... ok, then there is no mistake!
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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    "...those whom God hath joined together, let no man put asunder."

    Funny how relatives often don't realize that means them, too

    In other words, relatives often don't realize that they have no business coming between a married couple.
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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    We all come with full package ha ha ha ha ha
    Back to toppic, sorry

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    Avec you pardon WhiteLove; ofcoure by interest you mean "what your heart is telling you"(if i know you a little).... ok, then there is no mistake!
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    I'll answer it like an ascended master: "Yes of course"

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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    Wait until they awaken or start to question. Share a link or bring up a video t watch together on the subject that peaks your interest, but only if they wonder, "whatcha doin?" The wife is your bond. Family is there for support, if they aren't supportive then don't let them destroy your mate's and your peace. We've all had that raised eyebrow at us, but over time when the hidden criminals and plunderers are revealed, they'll notice that you've been on top of it all along and may need a little support themselves trying to handle it all. Just have patience to wait on them to ask. Others not so close as you will confirm what they too have seen. I've learned that everyone becomes aware according to how they can handle things. Some simply can't.

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    love you WhiteLOve ... back to topic ha ha ha... i guess i´have to start a thread on increasing sincronicitys, empathy, telepathy (i bet) and more... just great ..back to topic budies!!

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    I wanted to say I saw a strong sense of this subject in this thread and remembered how such alternative thinking caused a bit of alienation in my family. I've always thought everyone needs people to understand their point of view so I hope this forum can satiate that for you, if your family are not quite there yet. Also I think it's very common for people who awaken to have this kind of trouble looking back. However, I always think ultimately it's a battle fighting for love and family love is beautiful so battle on. And share your awakenings with us lot and spare them if they aren;t ready for it! Hope this helps

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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    Love your nickname YoYoYo, wellcome.
    We all here gone through the same thing, there are a few threads talking about awaking people. We who know have to be alert to people who starts makking questions or doubts , anyone, anywhere, don´t need to be the people around though it could be. Anyone has his/her on timing... never spit against the wind.
    The awakening procces is espicially dificult with the love ones... karma : a tricked game.
    I read more in your post, nt sure.. Much love

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    All part of "the process".

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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    Family is a tough one. You can't be on the fence if it's a choice between the wife and your original family. The wife has to come first, because she is now your primary family. It may get tense for a while, but time seems to mellow people out eventually.
    People who have yet to wake up like their slumber! Everybody wakes up in their own time. Sometimes you just have to talk about cars, sports or even Brittany Spears. It's a good exercise in patience (or beer drinking).
    It is a rather lonely road to travel. Maybe there are some forum members close to you that you could socialize with.
    Hang in there.

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    It's a funny one in my case because my father got slightly alienated from the family except me and him. Over the last few months we've been swapping notes. I'm not suprised at his ever increasing awakening but I think I suprised him

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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    Hi JTA, it is difficult to agree with family on so many other usual or regular everyday subjects, so we know it's going to be extremely difficult to agree on the whole subject of awakening, in my case I'm waking my self and also try to awaken my daughters (whom are more receptive to all the "crazy information") my husband is a whole different matter and sometimes he thinks I might be going out of my mind, ha ha, ha. I think that ship has sailed, haha!. But seriously, like so many on Avalon our voyage is kind of lonely for everyone of us, all I can do is just be there for when they need me and offer what I can when they ask and continue with my trip, everyone's journey is different and maybe they need more time, and maybe not even in this lifetime for them. You have to be patient with yourself and with all your family, don't try to shake them out of their path, they've got their own schedule for seeing, feeling and doing. And maybe just by being awake, and in a well informed and connected state of being yourself you can make them feel that you are on the right path so it's safe for them to follow. Thank your for posting this, and yes, we are all struggling to find the truth in all the information that's out there. Don't give up, this time we win.

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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    Congratulations on your awakening. As you have noticed, it is not always going to be easy. My family is not a problem, but some of my friends are. I am sure a few of them think I am a little on the nutty side for my beliefs and I have been called a conspiracy theorist on more then a few occasions.

    My advice to you is to take your awakening slowly. You will find that your awakening will take several turns over the course of time if you haven't already noticed. Disseminating fact from fiction is not as elementary as one may think. With the wealth of information here at P.A., one cannot expect to become any sort of an expert in a relative short time. This is a big learning process and becoming enlightened can be extremely confusing (as I sometimes still am). I have been studying for about the same amount of years as you have and I still sometimes feel inferior here. There is a lot of information here, Just consume as much of it as you can and either participate with questions or keep a lot of it in a personal contemplative mode. Don't rush it. The puzzle pieces will come together and fit, one by one.

    I am sorry to hear about the family problems. I have an Asian wife who my family just adores although racial preferences are very strong in my family. Give them some time but Jesus said to be fruitful and multiply. Children may very well be the turning point with your family.
    Your priority should be your wife and her pregnancy. The family may come around in due course but "your" family needs the positive energy more right now.

    Best of luck to you and your family.
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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    Hello JTA_12358 and everyone:

    JTA_12358 no one plans to awaken from my experience(s)! You have been chosen as the rest of the chosen people who have awakened I believe from my life experiences and choices.

    You have a very strong family culture that you have married into since you married an asian woman. I know because my wife is also asian and her family is very, very strong.

    You can't force your family and relatives to awaken. From experience I give my family advice that they never ask for. Usually it helps them and they always ask how I know that.....It's not because I am the sharpest pencil on the block but it's because I read as you do. Most people don't take the time to read anymore and this tends to keep them in the rut of sleep.

    JTA_12358 just keep giving them good advice and they will want more and more....You secret will be your awakening and studying.

    Just as time heals all disagreements. Time also brings awakening to all eventually.

    Keep your family strong and enjoy your knowledge with your familyl. Always share your knowledge but never worry about it not sinking in because it is......................

    If you ever want to just talk about anything maybe some of my experiences may be of benefit to you.....just drop me a private message.

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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    Welcome to Avalon! Your heart may rest easy here if nowhere else.

    We all have duties we must focus our energies on outside of this forum, but if this place provides but a brief window with which to breathe in a little cosmic light, then I hope that much can help balance your body/mind/spirit as you tread the path to light (as they say).

    I'd suggest some music, some tea, and some wandering eyes. However, don't forget to relax yourself, go get tired with being of service as the world pulls you, and then relax yourself again. I'll start you off with a brilliant youtube album I found this morning of all times:

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    When I first opened my eyes to our reality, I wanted to shout at the top of the mountain about my new found knowledge.

    I am lucky I wasn't lynched.

    My church going friends thought I was lost. They felt the need to "pray" for me.
    When I decided to not attend church anymore, even my "special occasion church going friends" took offense at that. It was okay for them to not attend church, but what I was doing was the ultimate taboo.

    My family...we agreed to disagree. (they hoped I was just going through a phase)

    But it's okay. I was able to meet new friends, who are more open minded. Who are willing to at least consider what I tell them.

    Another thing...I learned that you can't force truth onto people who are not ready. They will fight you with every fiber of their being to protect their status quo. It's alright. We are all growing at a different pace.

    Yes, it is lonely at times. But now I know that's all in my head.

    At those short moments when I am able to connect to a higher power...I feel so much love coming from the ALL. So I know I am not alone.

    So, please remember...it's okay. I think it is safe to say, we've all been there.

    Soon you will welcome a baby! Congratulations !

    The baby will be the bridge that enables you to come together as a family again.

    When your loved ones are ready, they will come to you for guidance. Until then, please be patient.

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    Default Re: Alienation from loved ones while on the path of awakening (Advice Wanted)

    Wow! I'm surprised to see all these replies so quickly. As this is my first post I'm delighted with the warm reception you've all given me. I'm truly grateful to have read all your kind words, that in itself has relieved my feelings of alienation. I feel much better about the situation and have a clearer vision of what I need to do moving forward. Thank you all, you've been a great help and I hope to be able to return the favor in the future.

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