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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    Quote 9/11 Science: Craters and Explosive Damage


    By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor on June 22, 2015
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/06...-soil-surface/

    ^ very topic related article. lots and lots of good stuff.

    Quote Neutron radiation and EMP appears to be responsible for the “toasted cars” found near Ground Zero. What is neutron radiation? From the Shots Across the Bow Blog:
    Quote We have evidence of nuclear fission and fusion taking place at Ground Zero. Fission triggered fusion bombs fit the evidence. These bombs had limited but powerful blast effects, a burst of neutron radiation as well as EMP effects. Mini-neutron bombs appear to be what was used
    Quote Mystery Solved: The WTC was Nuked on 9/11
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05...-nuked-on-911/

    ^one of several vt articles. imo they did the best work.

    the staff at vt have basically stated and then linked to scientific evidence that the cabal has a variety of new types of bombs available at their disposal. there is ample evidence that many of these different wmd's are currently being used in the middle east.

    we don't know what type of device (if any) was used to detonate the china disaster. it is very suspicious timing and the cabal has a long track record of employing these means to achieve their agenda.

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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    back in the 1980's when I was in the Army , we had nukes that would fit in a briefcase ... now they have them that have all the bang of the big ones without the radiation ... just saying ... sidebar , the whole thing looks like a staged event , I wonder who carried insurance on the facility ???
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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    With the new technology from the engineers on flight 370, miniature robots were to be made that fire a micro nuke the size of a BB...

    With Corey's advanced weapons base hidden away on Mars, and Sorchas hint that is time for Project Bluebeam, it makes you wonder...

    Watch what is happening in all the BRICs nations, Russian gas explosions, 27000 farmers have asked for permission to kill themselves in India...

    Everything is pointing back to FED Reserve owners...

    According to Fulford, China reversed its stance about closing the Fed, his report came out before this disaster.

    My prayers go out to China, may they grow up and become a nation that cares for their people and not profit very soon...

    Their pollution has melted the arctic... Filled the seas with enough plastic to walk on...

    Who knows what the effect of these airborn chemicals will do...

    Over 100 dead and 800 injured so far from this deadly explosion...
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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    Greetings All !

    Nobody thinking about Dr Judy at this moment ? I saw Flixborough (UK) on TV, and a Foreworks factory,
    ( France ).............. This is NOT munitions, nor gunpowder type explosives, be nice to hear from any shipping insiders ......

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    EDIT ! " Fireworks " ........ sorry !

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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    when electronics get taken out like this...

    https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CMOr6TFUYAAnotJ.mp4

    doesn't that show an EMP type explosion happen, or can it just be from shockwave?

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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    There are some detailed photos here:
    http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2015/08...much-can-i-do/

    Press conference:
    http://shanghaiist.com/2015/08/15/ti...tended_cut.php

    @jekbradbury: Southern Weekly: firefighter says he sprayed water on burning container for 10mins w/o knowing it contained explosive chemicals (via @P_Zuo)

    @P_Zuo: Potassium nitrate, sodium nitrate among chemicals piled at Tianjin blast site; sewage water tested positive of sodium cyanide, highly toxic

    @george_chen: BREAKING: Chemical Sodium cyanide found in local sewers after #TianjinBlast

    @jekbradbury: According to China Radio Int'l, explosion was at 瑞海国际物流有限公司 (Ruihai Int'l Logistics Co., Ltd.), in Dongjiang Tax-Free Port Zone @reportedly

    It Is said that The company is owned by the nephew of a high rank official 李瑞环 Li Ruihuan. Also there are rumours about smuggling army weapon…hope it's just true.

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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    Citizen's,

    what we have here is an attack. By what means, I am uncertain, but what we have witnessed is an attack by a super-power against another.

    The 'official' story just does not work, on any level. I cannot stress enough, read this link for some level headed, obvious analysis of the official story and pictures. It will take less than 3 minutes of your time:

    Quote After carefully poring over the images, it is now obvious that the actual epicenter of the explosion was nowhere near ANY WAREHOUSE AT ALL,
    http://82.221.129.208/ab7index.html

    Just think to yourselves, "what are the media not showing us?' There is more than enough HD quality footage and pictures to do a forensic analysis of the blast-site yet we see none of these on MSM, it's all gone a little quiet.

    The people that ordered this attack are so, so clever....... as is often the case with these Big False Flag events (BFF) they achieve multiple objectives. Look at this ab-so-lute-ly-shocking piece of news that seems to have been buried since this attack:

    Quote And WHY would this be done? Because a media diversion was needed to bury the fact that the NSA finally got into Hillary's hard drive, and found text strings that identify THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of classified documents that were ripped right out of the NSA's underground bases and from those bases Hillary's spooks sent them straight up to a satellite that Hillary had been handed the encryption keys for. Hillary had no clearance or authorization for that, this is a massive case of espionage blown wide open. And these text strings were found AFTER all the actual documents they came from were wiped from the hard drive during Hillary's cleanup, and were found as quotes and snips in discussion e-mails her staff overlooked during the cleanup. If Hillary does not fry for this over the next few days, you can bet on America being finished. This is the litmus test.
    Boxing Day Tsunami, Fukashima, Malaysian Airlines MH370 & MH17 and now this. China & SE Asia are under heavy attack and have been for over a decade, yet we rationalise these events as 'accidents', 'coincidence'...............



    We owe it to the victims, and ourselves, to not turn our discerning eye elsewhere.


    Regards.
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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    “Dan Kaszeta, an expert on chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear defense, was quick to tell Popular Science that the long flash of the blast in Tianjin indicated it wasn't a nuclear explosion. Also, he said, the blasts clearly occurred in sequence, following a fire.”

    http://www.popsci.com/what-caused-ma...-tianjin-china

    @raykwong: More than 200 nuclear and biochemical experts sent to Tianjin after explosions. http://t.co/G6p8fWkjTW http://t.co/6YxieSKGl9 MT @SkyNews

    Come on, just because they sent nuclear and biochemical experts does not mean there was a nuclear bomb..

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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    @ yuhui

    Have you even bothered to read the link I provided? Do a little research on blast characteristics, on what has been going on behind the scenes, or simply use your eyes and the skill of comparison....... it's easy to do.

    That is, if you want to.

    Discernment is not something you are born with, it takes practice.


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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    For information purposes only. I have applied bold text to pertinent points:


    FAQ:
    Q: In a nutshell what is a Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapon (FGNW)?
    A: It is a nuclear fusion weapon that doesn't use a fission trigger. The most feasible method to trigger fusion in a FGNW is to use microscopic amounts of anti-matter.

    Q: What advantages do FGNWs have over conventional nukes?
    A: They are "clean" (radioactive fallout negligible, about on par with conventional depleted uranium weapons that are already in use), they are very small (potentially can fit in your pocket), and fill in the "yield gap" between the most powerful conventional weapons and the lowest yield conventional nukes.

    Q: Will FGNWs really be more politically acceptable to use in actual combat?
    A: Who knows? Only time can tell for certain, but their "radioactive cleanness" is a compelling argument in favor for it.

    Q: What would be the TNT equivalent of a FGNW be?
    A: A 3 gram pellet of fusion fuel would release around 302 gigajoules of energy (about 72 tons of TNT), so around that.

    Q: Wouldn't FGNWs be attractive for nuclear terrorism?
    A: No, it's easier to build conventional nuclear weapons. FGNWs require extremely large particle accelerators to manufacture the antimatter necessary for the FGNW. A terrorist who wants a suitcase nuke is better off with something like the M-388 Davy Crockett.


    A theatre, a 'live' test, is always desirable by The Psychopaths(TM) for their weapons of coercion.



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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    I would explore it as a proper weighted consideration, I would not run around wearing it as a truth, ie, defacto prejudgement.

    But it is a required part of any given analysis these days.

    conventional explosions, conventional materials are not 'fast enough' to cause depressions in the ground. Only nukes and well constructed thermobarics have a fast enough wave and thus high enough proximity and volume of expanding pressure, to punch a depression into the ground. conventional explosives explode slow enough that the wave expands and disperses above the explosion point and thus no ground depression. The only way they can crater, is if they are in the ground when they go off. Conventional explosives, underground, or shot into ground, they disperse soil, etc. Thermobarics and nukes do not scatter dirt, etc. depending on ground proximity when ignited..they forcefully depress the ground. In the limited views seen so far, I see no depression.
    Sorry, are you saying conventional explosives don't make a crater unless they are in the ground?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Bishopsgate_bombing

    I know about this first hand as I worked on building investigations after the blast. I saw the crater in the road. The bomb was in a truck at least 2 feet of the ground, with a metal floor between it and the ground.


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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    Anakie,

    the annular cracks around the epicentre of the Chinese explosion prove only one of two possible causes:

    1. Nuclear detonation.

    2. Extreme kinetic impact.

    Only these two possibilities can result in the crater characteristics and annular cracks that we can see. A conventional explosion does not create the sideways compression and release within the ground as evidenced by the high quality pictures available of the epicentre. Depletion within the thermobaric radius, again, points to only one of the two possible causes......... Nothing else.

    Not TNT, not glue, not conventional chemicals. None.

    New evidence today shows before and after pictures of the epicentre of the explosion. Where the now 3 acre lake is sited, the epicentre, there is pictorial proof that there was not, and never had been, any type of structure, let alone a warehouse, at the epicentre.


    I am not prone to getting straight onboard the conspiracy train.

    The evidence points, shouting, to an event that is not as portrayed by the media.

    Why?



    Regards.
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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
    Citizen's,

    what we have here is an attack. By what means, I am uncertain, but what we have witnessed is an attack by a super-power against another.

    The 'official' story just does not work, on any level. I cannot stress enough, read this link for some level headed, obvious analysis of the official story and pictures. It will take less than 3 minutes of your time:

    Quote After carefully poring over the images, it is now obvious that the actual epicenter of the explosion was nowhere near ANY WAREHOUSE AT ALL,
    http://82.221.129.208/ab7index.html

    Just think to yourselves, "what are the media not showing us?' There is more than enough HD quality footage and pictures to do a forensic analysis of the blast-site yet we see none of these on MSM, it's all gone a little quiet.

    The people that ordered this attack are so, so clever....... as is often the case with these Big False Flag events (BFF) they achieve multiple objectives. Look at this ab-so-lute-ly-shocking piece of news that seems to have been buried since this attack:

    Quote And WHY would this be done? Because a media diversion was needed to bury the fact that the NSA finally got into Hillary's hard drive, and found text strings that identify THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of classified documents that were ripped right out of the NSA's underground bases and from those bases Hillary's spooks sent them straight up to a satellite that Hillary had been handed the encryption keys for. Hillary had no clearance or authorization for that, this is a massive case of espionage blown wide open. And these text strings were found AFTER all the actual documents they came from were wiped from the hard drive during Hillary's cleanup, and were found as quotes and snips in discussion e-mails her staff overlooked during the cleanup. If Hillary does not fry for this over the next few days, you can bet on America being finished. This is the litmus test.
    Boxing Day Tsunami, Fukashima, Malaysian Airlines MH370 & MH17 and now this. China & SE Asia are under heavy attack and have been for over a decade, yet we rationalise these events as 'accidents', 'coincidence'...............



    We owe it to the victims, and ourselves, to not turn our discerning eye elsewhere.


    Regards.
    When I look at this picture, from the link that Citzen No 2 provided,

    Attachment 30822

    it looks like something came in at an angel from the lower left of the picture and buried itself in the ground, compressing and lifting the earth and cracking it, as can be see on the upper right edge of the lake. You can also see the angel of entry, because in the lower left of the picture, there is a track or channel that has been gouged out, and where the debris has been pushed to the each side.
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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    Thank you Selkie.

    My view is that the area of the crater you are referring to is showing an effect of it's geological make-up rather than evidence of a shallow angle-of-attack weapon. I have read the speculation of an attack by an exotic, space-based platform, i.e. Rods from God. If this was the case I am sure there would be footage, or reports at the very least, of a 'meteor' above the area. Those kinetic weapons come in at a speed of some 37,000 ft per second, the same speed as a meteorite due to the density of our atmosphere.

    This is one case were the dots definitely need connecting.

    If you would like a Litmus Test for web-sites that purportedly expose truth, just have a look around and see who is not discussing this. Fukashima too.

    The silence is deafening.


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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
    Thank you Selkie.

    My view is that the area of the crater you are referring to is showing an effect of it's geological make-up rather than evidence of a shallow angle-of-attack weapon. I have read the speculation of an attack by an exotic, space-based platform, i.e. Rods from God. If this was the case I am sure there would be footage, or reports at the very least, of a 'meteor' above the area. Those kinetic weapons come in at a speed of some 37,000 ft per second, the same speed as a meteorite due to the density of our atmosphere.

    This is one case were the dots definitely need connecting.

    If you would like a Litmus Test for web-sites that purportedly expose truth, just have a look around and see who is not discussing this. Fukashima too.

    The silence is deafening.


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    What about a "bunker buster" type of bomb? Aren't such weapons made to penetrate the ground and detonate beneath the ground? Maybe some sort of facility was hidden somewhere beneath the depot?

    p.s. I agree that it doesn't look like anything was every above the crater...no building or anything. Surely there would be debris if a building had stood where the crater is now, but there is nothing there, just bare earth.
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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    Selkie wrote:

    Quote p.s. I agree that it doesn't look like anything was every above the crater...no building or anything. Surely there would be debris if a building had stood where the crater is now, but there is nothing there, just bare earth.
    Exactly.

    Same with the bunker-buster. No known BB weapon has that sort of yield and certainly do not leave lakes' in their wake.

    It is a process of realisation.



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    Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
    Selkie wrote:

    Quote p.s. I agree that it doesn't look like anything was every above the crater...no building or anything. Surely there would be debris if a building had stood where the crater is now, but there is nothing there, just bare earth.
    Exactly.

    Same with the bunker-buster. No known BB weapon has that sort of yield and certainly do not leave lakes' in their wake.

    It is a process of realisation.



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    Could it have been a scalar weapon attack? That bare earth around the crater is really weird. Even at Hiroshima, even at ground zero, there were still tree trunks and buildings standing, although Hiroshima was an above-ground blast.

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    Selkie wrote:

    Quote Could it have been a scalar weapon attack? That bare earth around the crater is really weird. Even at Hiroshima, even at ground zero, there were still tree trunks and buildings standing, although Hiroshima was an above-ground blast.
    I don't think scalar applies in this scenario.


    Are you familiar with Dr. Judy Wood and her analysis of 9/11? Watching the footage of the towers going down, and the rudimentary understanding I have of scalar weapons and potential, you can see that scalar beam weaponry dismantles it's target on an atomic level whereas this Chinese event has all the characteristics of some sort of 'blunt force'.

    Am liking your thinking though.


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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    I seldom have dreams, (that I recall anyway), that point to current events. Yet last night, a very short sleep for me, about 4 hours total, and I awoke with several fractured glimpses of a dream. As I tried to fill in gaps I could feel them slipping away. Significantly I remembered three things.


    I saw several carrots, each in isolation, with a strange nest of toroidal disks extending upwards where the greens would usually be. They were 'hidden' in fields and I had the intuition they were destructive in nature. Like booby-traps.

    A man, in the aftermath of some large explosion, saying. "They have an energy weapon, and we have to fight them soon".

    I was with two others, not far from where I saw the 'carrots' and I said something in Polish. They grew angry with me and told me not to say that. I knew they didn't want to hear, so I repeatd it louder. (I don't know Polish, but the first thought on surfacing as I recalled the words was that it was Polish.)


    Now yesterday, (Saturday 15), I just returned home from a week in the Lake District where I was happily disconnected from all media. I never even knew about Tianjin until I logged in to ProjectAvalon around 10:30 bst Sun 16. Reading through this thread I followed a link to a page with a drawing of the Rods of God, it brought that dream sharply in to recall as it immediately reminded me of the carrot in my dream.

    Not even sure why I am sharing this as there is really nothing significant, and Polish just seems to confuse the issue not clarify.

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    Default Re: Massive explosion in the city of Tianjin, China

    Thank you for sharing that Anakie, seriously.

    I'll tell you this. The small things, they come and go as early warnings. Only with the benefit of hindsight do we achieve the picture. I am learning to listen to all of my data gathering faculties. Do not dismiss nor cast aside anything that may not fit your present belief system.

    Things are afoot.


    Thank you, once again.



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