# Thread: The Anti-Gravity Effect and a little more

1. ## The Anti-Gravity Effect and a little more

An excerpt from a physics paper I wrote recently
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“Ok, I have hinted enough at anti-gravity... What is going on here?
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Seats and trays to their forward upright position please; we are set for takeoff in 2 minutes.
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There seems to be an anti-gravity effect created by rotating a super conductor at high velocities. A breaking of the conservation of angular momentum occurs (oops did I just offend every physics professor with tenure or what?). NASA levitated a \$600,000 super conductor via magnetic fields then rotated it quickly and noticed a small "gravitational anomaly" (anti-gravity). The whole experiment was a deception to say "go home folks... nothing to see here". They ruled the effect to be to small to be of any practical use. According to the math the effect goes by the square of the radius, meaning, small is not the way to go here and NASA used a one or 2 cm disk. NASA: Never A Straight Answer.
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The Home Run Paragraph
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A pitch at the very least
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What seems to be the real way to achieve the big boy anti-gravity effect is to rotate a dense fluid at some ratio of the speed of light. I would start at about 1/3 the speed of light (at the outer edge) due to some data produced from a handful of cold fusion experiments suggesting a transfer of energy occurs between forces at this velocity. The holy grail material needs to be a magnetic frictionless fluid (a thermionic super-fluid). It appears that mercury doped with some magnetic elements, that must also act to prevent mercury from freezing at low temperatures, is the solution here. Next, fill a thin toroid (donut-shaped container) with this fluid, super-cool it (this may require quasi-crystals to pull enough heat out), and apply high pressure so that the fluid becomes a Bois-Einstein Condensate; the wave property of matter allows matter to occupy the same space per time as it becomes one overlapping wave function when super-cooled and under pressure. This is how you would prevent friction and get the most bang for your buck in terms of utilizing all the spinning mass; if one part goes, it all goes. Finally, rotate the fluid inside the toroid quickly using EM fields of some sort, a degree of freedom opens up, and presto; something magical happens. Mercury Vortex Propulsion! And by the way, what shape would a craft be if its primary propulsion system was in the shape of a large-circumference thin-tubed toroid covered by a hull with a bit of aerodynamics thrown around it?... BiNGO!
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Fun huh?”
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“Infinity is a dot or is it just naught?
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Taking a spin around a black hole to clear our mind before heading back to earth =[
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If I'm right the universe is giving us an example of working anti-gravity near black holes. Which is consistent with how we have learned other tricks of the universe; we look around and see what nature is up to. After all, there can't be infinite gravity, right? Infinity is a concept not a quantifiable value; the universe needs values to process.
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Since I'm near enough to a black hole to feel its gravity and I remain in existence I would say there is no infinite gravity anywhere near a black hole. Infinity would have to be getting divided or subtracted by something so as to not collapse the universe and what could that possibly be? Hypothetically, the entire energy of the universe (in kinetic form) moving one tiny particle would not be able to find a safe velocity if an infinite gravity well existed anywhere in the universe. Infinite means hypothetical in my mind. The concept of infinity is a logic tool nothing more.
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I think the anti-grav effect (a breaking of angular momentum) happens just outside the black hole. Eventually, matter at the right combination of state, pressure, velocity and charge (stabilizing factors analogous to what holds the core of a star stable) then, like an opening suction cup above a river, a degree of freedom becomes accessible and matter shoots upward or downward (depending on proximity) to a near orthogonal angel to rotation. Pressure wins over matter-waves attempting to separate due to heat then charged matter takes a turn. A tiny escape clause that prevents the universe from destroying itself. Discovering infinity and understanding it, by looking at a black hole, is how we get out of the solar system!
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In my minds eye the exit cone comes to a point then to cone again as it extends from the top/bottom of a black hole. Think of 2 cones touching tip-to-tip with one of the bottoms sitting on a black hole far above the equator (closer to a pole) and then 2 more tip-touching-cones extending from the bottom (usually). We see no scattered debris from this circle of intersection because the state-of-matter is still that of a Bios-Einstein condensate. Or something, I don't understand yet but I think I'm a lot closer as I'm starting to see them.”
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Thank you for your time and responses,
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ps. this post can be moved to wherever on this site is appropriate.
pss. I have a dash more but that is a 1 on 1 private conversation.

2. ## Re: The Anti-Gravity Effect and a little more

Two colliding magnetic fields weakens the gravitational fields around it, decreases the weight! Anti-gravity!
It's one of proven theories about anti-gravity. If you google it, you will find real papers by physicists.

Electrogravity is another alternative too. I think Nicola Tesla did find this effect, and T.T Brown had developed practical machines under the black projects.

The 3rd one, is in my understanding, is the torque exerted by rotational mass at the center.

Anything deals with anti-gravity are prohibited from mainstream sciences because I do believe in creating anti-gravity means it eventually leads to time manipulation,
and the space and energy beyond. So, TPTB do not want general public knows about it.

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Two colliding magnetic fields weakens the gravitational fields around it, decreases the weight! Anti-gravity!
It's one of proven theories about anti-gravity. If you google it, you will find real papers by physicists.

Electrogravity is another alternative too. I think Nicola Tesla did find this effect, and T.T Brown had developed practical machines under the black projects.

The 3rd one, is in my understanding, is the torque exerted by rotational mass at the center.

Anything deals with anti-gravity are prohibited from mainstream sciences because I do believe in creating anti-gravity means it eventually leads to time manipulation,
and the space and energy beyond. So, TPTB do not want general public knows about it.

3. ## Re: The Anti-Gravity Effect and a little more

And did this ellicit a good response at all? It seems vague ("I would start at about 1/3 the speed of light"), based on infirm and disparate premesis without any sense of coherence of structure, flowing arbitrarily from one "oh yeah and this is sorta true" comment to the next. Additionally, where you claim evidence you provide no references to the studies you cite ("due to some data produced from a handful of cold fusion experiments"; "It appears that mercury doped..."), and the entire thing is delivered with a puerile and conceited petulance ("oops did I just offend every physics professor with tenure or what?"; "go home folks... nothing to see here").

I'm sure to you this was an outstanding foray into hidden science, and I'm sure your well-intended enthusiasm stemmed more from naivety than arrogance, but perhaps you ought to cool your jets a little and not get so caught up in trying to revolutionise the scientific understanding—even well reasoned, well supported arguments fail in that.

4. ## Re: The Anti-Gravity Effect and a little more

I'm pushing for the collaborative idea here. I'v had this idea and i want to share it. It's my guess for the effect but most of this is based on the work of others. Is it proof? No. I'm letting go of anti-grav as i figure it's a tool for the big boys anyway. This is my way of trying to do that and moving on to things closer to home.

all feedback welcome for sure!

5. ## Re: The Anti-Gravity Effect and a little more

If you could find a way to replace a fast rotating liquid with a fast rotating 'field' at light speed I'd find it easier to believe that flying disks actually use this method. Thanks for explaining your thoughts and ideas here though.

I'm amazed that electrons, which appear to be as much a 'solid' as anything is, can transmit information at light speed. Presumably they don't actually travel that fast individually but somehow have a force continuity at that speed.

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I understand you believe it to be based on the work of others, but my original points stand: these original works of others aren't worth the scotch mist they were dreamt on if they aren't referenced, and the nearest we get to quantifiable data are ballpark figures. In truth, though, it's really not fair to single out these two points as qualms when it would perhaps be more efficient to point out the bits of the ah essay that I did like, so I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate you for your innovative use of the asterisk as a paragraphing aid.

7. ## Re: The Anti-Gravity Effect and a little more

The point they miss is that the angular (excitation and resultant energies) aspect of a fluid mass comes down to being calculated from atomic radius to connective atomic radius.

Wholly unlike solids.

Thus the effect is humongously multiplied as compared to rotated solids.

The other thing is that gravity..... is a oriented polarized gradient ..and is in constant MOTION....as a FLUID.

Now..what is the only way to overcome that? A fluid......(how it was done in the Rig Veda)

Well, not the only way, but a good one, unless you want to use electret-like resonated ceramic/metal composites resonated at their intrinsic resonance (designed into it) to create HUGE rotating AC (electric primarily, obviously) fields, which is how the more modern craft appear to do it.

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Have you seen the youtube video about the guy at Coral Gables, FL? Someone analyzed the clues and materials left by the builder, then compared the resulting math conclusions with symbols on Masonic temples. Very convincing! Bottom line? The masonic secret is anti-gravity.

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Finally, rotate the fluid inside the toroid quickly using EM fields of some sort, a degree of freedom opens up, and presto; something magical happens. Mercury Vortex Propulsion!
See: Nazi Bell. aka: a crude attempt at this.

10. ## Re: The Anti-Gravity Effect and a little more

Hi Somnium,
You seem like a real clever guy and i was woundering if you could help me out with sumthing.

I'm currently looking at the direction of 'free energy' xD

to create 'free energy' you will need sum to start with ... obviously ... if you wish to control it.
to get there i've drawn a lil figure with sum help and it goes like this

picture a 3d donut shape with surrounding it the numbers 1 to 9 with 9 at the top.
now the energy we start with would be LIGHT as light casts off photons.
We capture those photons using copper plates. Due to the shape of the donut it has maximum capturing capability.
Now when we have captured the photons we use dubbles to increase energy flow. The numbers 3, 6 and 9 are of no importance. So start with dubbling with 1.

My question is... due to the shape the excess of photons (radiation) it goes to the sides of the donut like object, how do i get them in the center?

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