Alex Jones receives critique by "his own supporters"

[WhiteLove]

One area where Alex and his site is in my view going out on slippery ice, is in his opposing of illegal immigrants, how slippery that ice is you can tell from the likes of this YouTube video:

Like 148
Dislike 291

In other words the people against these ideas are twice as many as those who are not. And you can bet that among those 291 persons some of them are people that support him and watch his show regularly.

It cannot be encouraging to do the kind of thing Alex does and then see those kinds of like statistics. The good thing about it is that if he takes it to heart and reconsiders some of these ideas, he will be able to grow even more support.

What Alex needs to take to heart, is that true freedom is not about getting a job, it is not about feeling the spirit of a nation, it is not about racial aspects, it is not about having good border protection. True freedom is much less limiting than that. True freedom is about moving freely around the earth, doing what you love to do and feeling the joy of someone else enjoying what you've done and what you do. True freedom is to connect with other civilizations and help one another. True freedom is about having fun.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=svlMYiXaoZU

[Lost N Found]

Question, Have you ever heard or witnessed Alex Jones be totally positive about life? I must say when I first started listening to this guy I did learn a lot about the crap going on around us and I was enthralled, It took about 3 months for me to realize that everything coming out of this guy was nothing but negativity and I was searching for positive things also. So I moved away although I still see his stuff on other places. I have read all of the stuff about how this guy is a disinfo agent for the CIA along with others. I must admit I will listen to some stuff just to see if it jives with other folks and what they are saying but all that negativity is so down and it does drag us into fear porn. Be real careful about how much of that you allow to control your life.

Now it seems that his own supporters are critiquing him and not liking what they here. Alex could do so much better with his research and knowledge by using it for real understanding and love than just being totally negative. I guess it will all come crashing down sooner or later.

[WhiteLove]

Posted by Lost N Found (here)
Question, Have you ever heard or witnessed Alex Jones be totally positive about life? I must say when I first started listening to this guy I did learn a lot about the crap going on around us and I was enthralled, It took about 3 months for me to realize that everything coming out of this guy was nothing but negativity and I was searching for positive things also. So I moved away although I still see his stuff on other places. I have read all of the stuff about how this guy is a disinfo agent for the CIA along with others. I must admit I will listen to some stuff just to see if it jives with other folks and what they are saying but all that negativity is so down and it does drag us into fear porn. Be real careful about how much of that you allow to control your life.

Now it seems that his own supporters are critiquing him and not liking what they here. Alex could do so much better with his research and knowledge by using it for real understanding and love than just being totally negative. I guess it will all come crashing down sooner or later.

I have always put his negativity in the neutral zone, I know he is working within the constraints of relative truth and I think he consumes a lot of energy in expressing what he experiences because he wants to sell the message, and that's OK, that's the whole point of his site - busting the tyranny is good in deed. Negativity moves from the neutral zone over to the negative zone for me, when it leaks over to a more neocon type of vibe, when all of a sudden the idea of peace is no longer about inclusion, but about exclusion and national pride, which to me is part of the problem rather than part of the solution. Here in Sweden we have over the last few years got a growing political issue in that the SD political party has got voting power that can actually help destabilize peace, this party is all about placing markers on people with certain race and certain markers should then yield certain limits and sufferings onto those, while others with the right markers on them should get certain freedoms and benefits. And that's exactly the kind of poison we have in the system globally today that is the root of all of the sh*t we're facing. Certain people get certain markers on them, those markers then dictate their access, and certain access then gives them certain qualities/powers that others should then not have. That's not love. And with more and more levels of such power, it ultimately becomes incredibly evil. Hence, from a relative point of view I can understand Alex's negativity, I can even understand why it to some degree leaks onto him, but from an absolute truth point of view I do agree it is important that this part of the content is not neglected and that it is seen for what it is.

Alex is no CIA agent, and the reason I know that is due to his authenticity. Alex has a very good quality about him, which is that he is authentic. He digs deeply into the dark, it must be lonely, frustrating and scary. I do not let the negative stuff make me not see the positive stuff, but I hope he will come to realize that at some point he is going to have to let go of the neo con influences that he to some degree, probably without being aware of it, buys into and spreads. The like statistics on the video above is good guidance in that.

I find Alex is doing important truth seeking work, I appreciate people that make these kinds of efforts. Nobody is perfect, Alex deals with highly important topics and much of it is stuff that needs a lot of attention which he helps to bring. I have always supported Alex with his strengths and weaknesses. We do not know exactly where we are and where we are going, we know there's some truly bad stuff happening out there and as truth seekers we might play an incredibly important role in all of this. So let's focus on being loving, inclusive and forgiving.

[Lost N Found]

Posted by WhiteLove (here)

Posted by Lost N Found (here)
Question, Have you ever heard or witnessed Alex Jones be totally positive about life? I must say when I first started listening to this guy I did learn a lot about the crap going on around us and I was enthralled, It took about 3 months for me to realize that everything coming out of this guy was nothing but negativity and I was searching for positive things also. So I moved away although I still see his stuff on other places. I have read all of the stuff about how this guy is a disinfo agent for the CIA along with others. I must admit I will listen to some stuff just to see if it jives with other folks and what they are saying but all that negativity is so down and it does drag us into fear porn. Be real careful about how much of that you allow to control your life.

Now it seems that his own supporters are critiquing him and not liking what they here. Alex could do so much better with his research and knowledge by using it for real understanding and love than just being totally negative. I guess it will all come crashing down sooner or later.

I have always put his negativity in the neutral zone, I know he is working within the constraints of relative truth and I think he consumes a lot of energy in expressing what he experiences because he wants to sell the message, and that's OK, that's the whole point of his site - busting the tyranny is good in deed. Negativity moves from the neutral zone over to the negative zone for me, when it leaks over to a more neocon type of vibe, when all of a sudden the idea of peace is no longer about inclusion, but about exclusion and national pride, which to me is part of the problem rather than part of the solution. Here in Sweden we have over the last few years got a growing political issue in that the SD political party has got voting power that can actually help destabilize peace, this party is all about placing markers on people with certain race and certain markers should then yield certain limits and sufferings onto those, while others with the right markers on them should get certain freedoms and benefits. And that's exactly the kind of poison we have in the system globally today that is the root of all of the sh*t we're facing. Certain people get certain markers on them, those markers then dictate their access, and certain access then gives them certain qualities/powers that others should then not have. That's not love. And with more and more levels of such power, it ultimately becomes incredibly evil. Hence, from a relative point of view I can understand Alex's negativity, I can even understand why it to some degree leaks onto him, but from an absolute truth point of view I do agree it is important that this part of the content is not neglected and that it is seen for what it is.

Alex is no CIA agent, and the reason I know that is due to his authenticity. Alex has a very good quality about him, which is that he is authentic. He digs deeply into the dark, it must be lonely, frustrating and scary. I do not let the negative stuff make me not see the positive stuff, but I hope he will come to realize that at some point he is going to have to let go of the neo con influences that he to some degree, probably without being aware of it, buys into and spreads. The like statistics on the video above is good guidance in that.

I find Alex is doing important truth seeking work, I appreciate people that make these kinds of efforts. Nobody is perfect, Alex deals with highly important topics and much of it is stuff that needs a lot of attention which he helps to bring. I have always supported Alex with his strengths and weaknesses. We do not know exactly where we are and where we are going, we know there's some truly bad stuff happening out there and as truth seekers we might play an incredibly important role in all of this. So let's focus on being loving, inclusive and forgiving.

Okay whitelove, I can get behind what you are saying. Alex Jones does open eyes as to what is happening all around us, yes he is quite negative and he does play into the neo-con realm. Seems to me with Alex as well as other neo-cons like shawn hannity and that whole group on the Fox chanel or whatever it is called, you do see it on the alternative news on the computer, They play into the game of divide and conquer just as well as all of our gov'ments do. Now I am not saying that Alex is not doing good for us, I am just saying that he appears to be going down a wrong path and maybe just maybe someone will point that out to him so his good work does not become a rotten apple and more folks will really pay attention. I did say that I became more aware when I first started to listen to him but seemed to be turned off by all of that negativity.

As for Alex being a CIA agent or some kind of troll, I do not know that, It is brought forth by other folks on web sites but there is no evidence to date of reality of this. so believing or not is a personal issue. Lets not forget that the alternative news as well as the lamestream news can lie lie lie and create so much brainwashing that nothing can seem real or have any truth to us all today. For those of us that have become more awake of the fake crap we all do research and still do not know what is and what ain't. It seems to be just a matter of what we believe with in our own minds these days and what we can vet or not so we can find some truth or reality. Alex may be or not doing this same thing and trying his best to put that out to all us that listen or not to him. I can say he has done a pretty good job of spewing the crap that is around us and he has had some very good guests on his show over the years. These folks, one has to vet also so here we all are wondering just what is real and what is fake. Sorry that fits into another thread, but as I have said, all of the threads in Project Avalon appear to be fitting together. Isn't this just wonderful??

So, keep doing what you do Whitelove, I love that and all of us just connect in everything that happens here and I suspect in our lives of all. Nice place you live, cool. Thank you for that post above, gives me more to think about and learn from.

Lost N Found

[christian]

1) Alex isn't even featured in the video above, except in the ad at the end.

2) This video is criticizing the idea of mass deportation of illegal immigrants, suggesting it would lead to a race war. Watchers of this video on YT apparently want such a muss deportation, hence they dislike this video.

3) Alex's opposition against unregulated immigration is connected to reasons such as illegals receiving benefits paid for by the American taxpayer that often exceed what US natives receive, or illegals being allowed to commit crimes with impunity, or illegals being instrumentalized by the establishment to become supporters of the welfare-nanny-state, and so on… It's not like Alex has an inherent problem with the idea of humans roaming the Earth freely.

4) I listened to countless hours of Alex's program. I find his attitude towards life incredibly enthusiastic and affirming. I think he's way, way beyond neo-con.

[M0JFK]

What I like about Jones and his website is that he posts all the negative comments too. In other words NO CENSORSHIP so all credit due to the guy. This guy even gets called about his wife being a Jew and yet he puts it up on the site...a true gladiator for freedom of speech. And he backs everything up with documentation...a clown he is not unlike some of the other guru's in the alternative community I must say. I think the guy is a credit to the alternative community despite the odd outburst's that I think is only done for show.

[genevieve]

If I were as immersed in the world's goings-on as Alex is, I'd have a LOT more outbursts than he has.

Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve

[Jake]

One decision that I made for myself, long ago,,, was to vow to surround myself with strong folks who would call me out, when im wrong! That has been so very important on my path! Critique from supporters is not necessarily a bad thing! It may simply be a reflection of his supporters having strong minds. I support AJ.. Though I wont buy the special MAN elixer... lol...

Also, I got into a wee argument with a naysayer in the running comment a while back and we were Both booted! So, yes,, they do remove negative comments,, but in the spirit of moderation, not censor.

Jake

[Andre]

This thread opened with questions or concerns about how negative Alex Jones appears to be. Subsequent posts echoed this concern. However, in my view, Alex could not survive this long doing what he does to expose the shadow government unless he had an underlying optimism that we will make it. His spirit keeps him going and for that I applaud the guy.

[kaon]

Some of the true freedom aspects that you are mentioning make it sound as if you want no borders on the planet, that you want no laws and have little regard for sovereignty. Perhaps in a perfect society, but it is unlikely that mankind will reach such a plateau in our lifetime, or the next several generations. While I whole hardily agree that freedom should be fun, we can't ignore laws and we can't ignore the negative impact that illegal immigration has such as high and violent crimes and thefts. There is also the issue of taxpayer money being taken from hard working Americans and given to the illegal immigrants. Even legal immigrants receive government assistance that native Americans don't qualify for.
The problem is not legal immigration, but illegal immigration. The real hardship and impact is often quashed in the MSM.

As far as Alex being negative, you bet he is. No doubt about that. He is also a fear monger. However, go to the extreme opposite of Alex Jones and you can see the same ridicule or worse directed to the extreme liberals.

In addition, I went onto youtube and took the first 5 Alex Jones videos and the like-dislike reads as follows: Like 145 dislike 13, 191-16, 146-14, 181-17, 377-30.
In light of the numbers, it would appear that Alex Jones "own supporters" do support him. Something tells me that the dislikes are not his supporters.

Personally, I like Alex Jones but I can only tolerate him to a certain degree. I watch some of his videos and shows but I agree that his fear mongering or what some may perceive as negativity can be depressing. However, he is a strong voice and right much more then he is wrong. Flowering up his opinions to appease liberals is obviously at the very bottom of his to do list.

[happyuk]

Alex Jones talks a good game but has let himself down with all this illegal immigrant crap. Anything that pits one against the other is to be treated with utmost suspicion. What is 'illegal' anyway we all share the same fishtank. I also don't buy into his crap with respect to the Bohemian Grove thing and being asked to switch his camera off.

Many of these people running the truth sites seem to have no obvious means of support. I know just how hard making money online actually is. Where is their funding coming from and how are all their expenses met, in running radio shows, travel, hotels? I wouldn't be surprised if 911 Architects and Engineers for Truth has been thoroughly infiltrated.

[Lost N Found]

Posted by happyuk (here)
Alex Jones talks a good game but has let himself down with all this illegal immigrant crap. Anything that pits one against the other is to be treated with utmost suspicion. What is 'illegal' anyway we all share the same fishtank. I also don't buy into his crap with respect to the Bohemian Grove thing and being asked to switch his camera off.

Many of these people running the truth sites seem to have no obvious means of support. I know just how hard making money online actually is. Where is their funding coming from and how are all their expenses met, in running radio shows, travel, hotels? I wouldn't be surprised if 911 Architects and Engineers for Truth has been thoroughly infiltrated.

I have to agree with you happyuk, where do these folks get the operating expenses to continue. Is from donations of ordinary folks and if so there must be millions and millions of them. All those guests that come on the Alex Jones shows surely are not doing it for free. I do not want to be totally negative about this guy and do want to say that there is very interesting articles and what have you from his show, But just who is paying for all of this. One thing I have learned in the past is this, "Follow the money", I would suppose one can do that with just about any of this fake, bull#$it news we get overloaded with these days. I really see way to much fear porn everywhere and it really turns folks off. Now that may be the agenda that is wanted, I don't know for sure but I do follow my heart strings in all that is portrayed around us these days.

So for now, I take all of the Alex Jones, Dave Hodges, Lindsey Williams, Corey Goode, David Wilcock and any other dooms day sayer with a giant grain of salt. Ok to look and think, do not touch.