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    Quote Posted by Rhah (here)
    In fear of a coming economic collapse, I have been contemplating taking all of my money out of the bank so that I actually, physically, have it in my posession instead of the banks owning it, and to just continue using cash from that point on. Now I admit that I have very little knowledge of economy in general, but I do know that this would obviously not prevent the effects of inflation or hyperinflation, it's just that I'm afraid of losing it all and being left with zero to nothing after the collapse.

    However, I've been browsing through this thread for some more information - as I just simply feel it getting closer and closer and I honestly don't really know what to do - and I've now read some things that indicate that the above might not be such a wise idea after all...

    So basically I was hoping if any of you had some comments on this and could perhaps clarify certain things in regards to emptying out your bank account and start using just cash?

    I realise that for a lot of you taking out all your funds would probably not be a very practical thing to do, but as I have literally just finished school only a few months ago and am now trying to build something up for myself so that I can hopefully move out soon and start a life of my own, I personally don't have an awful lot saved up yet and could easily manage it in cash. And to be honest, with interest rates as low as they are right now I personally don't really see a point in having your money stored in a bank instead of physically owning it in cash, apart from maybe keeping a little bit in my account so that I can still make digital payments to order books and what have you.

    But like I said: these views are all based on personal feelings rather than knowledge so I might just simply be wrong. And I hoped that with input from more knowledgeable people like you I could probably make a wiser decision in regards to this matter.

    PS. The main thing that's still very unclear to me is how a collapse of the US economy (where I feel it will start) will affect the rest of the world, and in my case, the rest of Europe. We've recently seen Greece's economic problems of course, but I've been given the impression that that was mostly (perhaps partly) caused by their own ways of operating. Whereas my own country, the Netherlands, has been able, for as far as I know and as far as we've been told, to stay fairly stable. So I was wondering if a collapse of the US economy will have a immediate impact on every other economy on the planet? Or will this gradually spread over a number of years? What is the most likely scenario is probably what I'm trying to ask here.

    Thanks in advance guys
    Rhah,
    It's the interconnectiveness of economies that creates the fear of global collapse. That said as a twenty something looking to strike out, I would not be overly concerned about the bank being open, but how will you make a living.

    The EU is not flush with good-paying jobs and is presently being inundated with refugees fighting for a living wage.

    I wish you luck. And look to the east for economic/market troubles because this will more than likely start in Asia, no the US
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    as long as the usa can and does counterfeit the world's reserve currency by the $trillions ( literally true) America can support the markets, fund ppl not working, conduct global wars, bribe judges, congress, msm to support the deceptions. the usa markets will be among the last to fall.

    south America is economically falling apart.

    Europe is economically falling apart. big stories about Germany being in big trouble just hitting alt media in last couple days. Germany is the economic engine of Europe.

    middle east is in turmoil.

    Africa is in turmoil.

    in india millions applied for a couple hundred jobs as there is severe unemployment there as well.

    the global fiat currency based national economies are like balloons hemorrhaging and the cabal controlled governments are putting duct tape on the bleeding and frantically pumping as much fake stimulus as possible into the balloons. once a balloon starts hemorrhaging it's days are numbered.

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    Quote There Are Indications That A Major Financial Event In Germany Could Be Imminent

    By Michael Snyder, on September 21st, 2015
    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/a...ld-be-imminent

    ^ good article imo. derivative exposure to artificially prop up the faux markets.

    jim willie has been saying for some time the same thing.

    Quote Jim Willie : If Deutsche Bank Goes Under It Will be Lehman Times Five!
    Last edited by idiit; 23rd September 2015 at 12:45.

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    Quote Posted by idiit (here)
    as long as the usa can and does counterfeit the world's reserve currency by the $trillions ( literally true) America can support the markets, fund ppl not working, conduct global wars, bribe judges, congress, msm to support the deceptions. the usa markets will be among the last to fall.

    south America is economically falling apart.

    Europe is economically falling apart. big stories about Germany being in big trouble just hitting alt media in last couple days. Germany is the economic engine of Europe.

    middle east is in turmoil.

    Africa is in turmoil.

    in india millions applied for a couple hundred jobs as there is severe unemployment there as well.

    the global fiat currency based national economies are like balloons hemorrhaging and the cabal controlled governments are putting duct tape on the bleeding and frantically pumping as much fake stimulus as possible into the balloons. once a balloon starts hemorrhaging it's days are numbered.

    The way that you worded this post was really powerful, idiit. I never quite looked at it that way, but you really hit the nail on the head. The US is literally counterfeiting currency out of thin air, and that will make the US the last to fall. We in the US sit with our heads in the sand (or hooked up to an electronic device) while the world around us crumbles.

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    Quote Posted by Lovespot (here)
    Hi Dave,

    Did you know about our 2013 budget?
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-con...rnment/5329263
    Quote Posted by Spellbound (here)
    While I do feel an economic collapse is coming, I do not think Canadian or US gov't will seize a portion of people's bank accounts as gov't did in Cyprus (or Greece). Money in the bank will be fine, imo. However, investments could take a serious hit in the coming months. Back in '08/'09 people's portfolios lost a huge % due to the collapse back then as value of investments tumbled. In that regard, I'd advise anyone with RRSP's / 401K (or whatever it is called in Europe) to park their investments into money market funds such that in the event of a collapse they don't lose money /value (though if the market goes up, they don't increase in value either....but that is not the coming situation, imo). Market is faaaar too risky right now for long term investment. Park your investment dollars somewhere safe, ride out the collapse, and then re-invest at the low (after the the collapse). Back in '08, I had my investments in money market funds so I didn't lose any value when the market collapsed. However, in March of '09, I kept my investments in money market funds and so I missed the low...lesson learned. This time I will be ready.

    Dave - Toronto
    I could be wrong, but I don't believe that would ever happen here (or the US). We aren't Cyprus. Generally, we Canadians are a passive bunch, but there is no way in hell we would a) allow the state of our economy to get that bad, and b) allow the banks to seize our accounts. Never say never, I understand that mentality...but I'd be shocked.

    Dave - Toronto

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    Default Re: Big market correction coming Sept\Oct !

    Quote Posted by Spellbound (here)
    Quote Posted by Lovespot (here)
    Hi Dave,

    Did you know about our 2013 budget?
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-con...rnment/5329263
    Quote Posted by Spellbound (here)
    While I do feel an economic collapse is coming, I do not think Canadian or US gov't will seize a portion of people's bank accounts as gov't did in Cyprus (or Greece). Money in the bank will be fine, imo. However, investments could take a serious hit in the coming months. Back in '08/'09 people's portfolios lost a huge % due to the collapse back then as value of investments tumbled. In that regard, I'd advise anyone with RRSP's / 401K (or whatever it is called in Europe) to park their investments into money market funds such that in the event of a collapse they don't lose money /value (though if the market goes up, they don't increase in value either....but that is not the coming situation, imo). Market is faaaar too risky right now for long term investment. Park your investment dollars somewhere safe, ride out the collapse, and then re-invest at the low (after the the collapse). Back in '08, I had my investments in money market funds so I didn't lose any value when the market collapsed. However, in March of '09, I kept my investments in money market funds and so I missed the low...lesson learned. This time I will be ready.

    Dave - Toronto
    I could be wrong, but I don't believe that would ever happen here (or the US). We aren't Cyprus. Generally, we Canadians are a passive bunch, but there is no way in hell we would a) allow the state of our economy to get that bad, and b) allow the banks to seize our accounts. Never say never, I understand that mentality...but I'd be shocked.

    Dave - Toronto
    This is what was written into law (budget):

    The Government proposes to implement a ―bail-in‖ regime for
    systemically important banks. This regime will be designed to ensure that,
    in the unlikely event that a systemically important bank depletes its capital, the
    bank can be recapitalized and returned to viability through the very
    rapid conversion of certain bank liabilities into regulatory capital.
    This will reduce risks for taxpayers. The Government will consult stakeholders on how best to implement a bail-in regime in Canada.

    Implementation timelines will allow for a smooth transition for affected institutions, investors and other market participants.

    Source: http://www.budget.gc.ca/2013/doc/pla...et2013-eng.pdf

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    all bank deposits in America as well as most european countries are defined by new laws ( without informing the public) to be unsecured loans.

    they can also arbitrarily decide to confiscate deposit boxes and deposits (partial, whole).

    you are a complete idiot to keep money ( actually faux money) in a bank beyond what's necessary to pay your bills. it's no longer yours once you deposit.

    ^ straight truth. no argument. not "my opinion".

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    Quote Currency Carnage: The Global FX Heatmap Is A Bloodbath
    09/24/2015 09:52 -0400
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...tmap-bloodbath

    Quote Caterpillar Shocker: Industrial Bellweather To Fire Up to 10,000; Slashes Revenue Outlook
    09/24/2015
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...evenue-outlook

    DERIVATIVES

    derivatives are magnifiers funded by 1$/$1000's in wall street casino derivatives bets. the derivatives market is an unregulated quadtrillion$ ( $x,000,000,000,000) market.

    it's a financial pyramid standing on it's head:




    due to the top heavy over-leveraged derivative markets large moves in financial markets make the top heavy financial ponzi fall down, go BOOM.
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    Quote Recession Imminent - Kansas Becomes 6th Regional Fed Survey Flashing Red
    09/24/201
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...y-flashing-red

    ^ what a joke. take real inflation out of pinocchio's gdp stats and we have been in a recession for years.

    look at baltic dry index, caterpillar sales, real unemployment #'s.

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    Could the VW scandal have a detrimental effect on the German banking system?
    Born of frustration.

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    Quote Could the VW scandal have a detrimental effect on the German banking system?
    according to financial articles the answer is yes. bmw is also in trouble adding to Germany's auto driven economic economy.

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    I post a lot on financial stuff 'cause I think it's important that while most of us still need money ( actually faux money) to survive we need to understand certain stuff about the faux money Ponzi scam in order to avoid needless suffering until the $enslavement system is removed from our daily lives.

    corey just released his latest interview: https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/201...nce-plus-mp3s/

    he states that real soon the entire fiat based Babylonian enslavement monetary system will be removed.

    ^ I sincerely hope so. I don't like money, I need it to survive. I want us to go to a barter system.

    so, now onto current financial news re big market correction coming soon:

    Quote The Stock Markets Of The 10 Largest Global Economies Are All Crashing
    09/25/2015
    Quote Right now, stock market wealth is being wiped out all over the planet, and none of the largest global economies have been exempt from this. The following is a summary of what we have seen in recent days…

    #1 The United States – The Dow Jones Industrial Average is down more than 2000 points since the peak of the market. Last month we saw stocks decline by more than 500 points on consecutive trading days for the first time ever, and there has not been this much turmoil in U.S. markets since the fall of 2008.

    #2 China – The Shanghai Composite Index has plummeted nearly 40 percent since hitting a peak earlier this year. The Chinese economy is steadily slowing down, and we just learned that China’s manufacturing index has hit a 78 month low.

    #3 Japan – The Nikkei has experienced extremely violent moves recently, and it is now down more than 3000 points from the peak that was hit earlier in 2015. The Japanese economy and the Japanese financial system are both basket cases at this point, and it isn’t going to take much to push Japan into a full-blown financial collapse.

    #4 Germany – Almost one-fourth of the value of German stocks has already been wiped out, and this crash threatens to get much worse. The Volkswagen emissions scandal is making headlines all over the globe, and don’t forget to watch for massive trouble at Germany’s biggest bank.

    #5 The United Kingdom – British stocks are down about 16 percent from the peak of the market, and the UK economy is definitely on shaky ground.

    #6 France – French stocks have declined nearly 18 percent, and it has become exceedingly apparent that France is on the exact same path that Greece has already gone down.

    #7 Brazil – Brazil is the epicenter of the South American financial crisis of 2015. Stocks in Brazil have plunged more than 12,000 points since the peak, and the nation has already officially entered a new recession.

    #8 Italy – Watch Italy. Italian stocks are already down 15 percent, and look for the Italian economy to make very big headlines in the months ahead.

    #9 India – Stocks in India have now dropped close to 4000 points, and analysts are deeply concerned about this major exporting nation as global trade continues to contract.

    #10 Russia – Even though the price of oil has crashed, Russia is actually doing better than almost everyone else on this list. Russian stocks have fallen by about 10 percent so far, and if the price of oil stays this low the Russian financial system will continue to suffer.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...e-all-crashing

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    Default Re: Big market correction coming Sept\Oct !

    Quote Posted by Lovespot (here)
    Quote Posted by Spellbound (here)
    Quote Posted by Lovespot (here)
    Hi Dave,

    Did you know about our 2013 budget?
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-con...rnment/5329263
    Quote Posted by Spellbound (here)
    While I do feel an economic collapse is coming, I do not think Canadian or US gov't will seize a portion of people's bank accounts as gov't did in Cyprus (or Greece). Money in the bank will be fine, imo. However, investments could take a serious hit in the coming months. Back in '08/'09 people's portfolios lost a huge % due to the collapse back then as value of investments tumbled. In that regard, I'd advise anyone with RRSP's / 401K (or whatever it is called in Europe) to park their investments into money market funds such that in the event of a collapse they don't lose money /value (though if the market goes up, they don't increase in value either....but that is not the coming situation, imo). Market is faaaar too risky right now for long term investment. Park your investment dollars somewhere safe, ride out the collapse, and then re-invest at the low (after the the collapse). Back in '08, I had my investments in money market funds so I didn't lose any value when the market collapsed. However, in March of '09, I kept my investments in money market funds and so I missed the low...lesson learned. This time I will be ready.

    Dave - Toronto
    I could be wrong, but I don't believe that would ever happen here (or the US). We aren't Cyprus. Generally, we Canadians are a passive bunch, but there is no way in hell we would a) allow the state of our economy to get that bad, and b) allow the banks to seize our accounts. Never say never, I understand that mentality...but I'd be shocked.

    Dave - Toronto
    This is what was written into law (budget):

    The Government proposes to implement a ―bail-in‖ regime for
    systemically important banks. This regime will be designed to ensure that,
    in the unlikely event that a systemically important bank depletes its capital, the
    bank can be recapitalized and returned to viability through the very
    rapid conversion of certain bank liabilities into regulatory capital.
    This will reduce risks for taxpayers. The Government will consult stakeholders on how best to implement a bail-in regime in Canada.

    Implementation timelines will allow for a smooth transition for affected institutions, investors and other market participants.

    Source: http://www.budget.gc.ca/2013/doc/pla...et2013-eng.pdf
    Is it legal, yes.....but it is highly unlikely here in Canada where the banks are much bigger (and regulated). Also, the government guarantees the 1st $100,000 of bank deposits for EACH bank---so if one has $100000 in deposits at BMO and another $100000 at CIBC then in effect it's all covered (RRSP's are also separate).

    Dave - Toronto

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    Quote Is it legal, yes.....but it is highly unlikely here in Canada where the banks are much bigger (and regulated). Also, the government guarantees the 1st $100,000 of bank deposits for EACH bank---so if one has $100000 in deposits at BMO and another $100000 at CIBC then in effect it's all covered (RRSP's are also separate).
    the problem with deposit insurance, stocks, pensions, hedges made by wall street is counter party risk. you are relying on promises. broken promises when shtf.

    you can't even get physical silver from large bullion dealers. sold out. you have to wait months for delivery. if you pay for physical silver on backorder it's also subject to counterparty risk. having physical precious metals ( bullion) in your possession is the only means to avoid being the victim of broken promises that I know of.

    Quote SOLD OUT: World’s Largest Physical Silver Wholesaler’s Inventory Down to 3 Items- All Shipping in 6-10 Weeks!
    http://www.silverdoctors.com/james-t...on/#more-58292

    https://smaulgld.com/is-there-a-silver-shortage/

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    Quote The global commodity collapse is finally starting to take its toll on what China truly cares about: the employment of the tens of millions of currently employed and soon to be unemployed workers.

    On Friday, in a move that would make even Hewlett-Packard's Meg Whitman blush, Harbin-based Heilongjiang Longmay Mining Holding Group, or Longmay Group, the biggest met coal miner in northeast China which has been struggling to reduce massive losses in recent months as a result of the commodity collapse, just confirmed China's "hard-landing" has arrived when it announced on its website it would cut 100,000 jobs or 40% of its entire 240,000-strong labor force.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...y-fires-100000

    most nations are suffering catastrophic downturns in their economies. the global economy is collapsing.

    everything is artificially inflated. derivatives are highly levered.

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    Quote Posted by Lovespot (here)
    Quote Posted by Spellbound (here)
    Quote Posted by Lovespot (here)
    Hi Dave,

    Did you know about our 2013 budget?
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-con...rnment/5329263
    Quote Posted by Spellbound (here)
    While I do feel an economic collapse is coming, I do not think Canadian or US gov't will seize a portion of people's bank accounts as gov't did in Cyprus (or Greece). Money in the bank will be fine, imo. However, investments could take a serious hit in the coming months. Back in '08/'09 people's portfolios lost a huge % due to the collapse back then as value of investments tumbled. In that regard, I'd advise anyone with RRSP's / 401K (or whatever it is called in Europe) to park their investments into money market funds such that in the event of a collapse they don't lose money /value (though if the market goes up, they don't increase in value either....but that is not the coming situation, imo). Market is faaaar too risky right now for long term investment. Park your investment dollars somewhere safe, ride out the collapse, and then re-invest at the low (after the the collapse). Back in '08, I had my investments in money market funds so I didn't lose any value when the market collapsed. However, in March of '09, I kept my investments in money market funds and so I missed the low...lesson learned. This time I will be ready.

    Dave - Toronto
    I could be wrong, but I don't believe that would ever happen here (or the US). We aren't Cyprus. Generally, we Canadians are a passive bunch, but there is no way in hell we would a) allow the state of our economy to get that bad, and b) allow the banks to seize our accounts. Never say never, I understand that mentality...but I'd be shocked.

    Dave - Toronto
    This is what was written into law (budget):

    The Government proposes to implement a ―bail-in‖ regime for
    systemically important banks. This regime will be designed to ensure that,
    in the unlikely event that a systemically important bank depletes its capital, the
    bank can be recapitalized and returned to viability through the very
    rapid conversion of certain bank liabilities into regulatory capital.
    This will reduce risks for taxpayers. The Government will consult stakeholders on how best to implement a bail-in regime in Canada.

    Implementation timelines will allow for a smooth transition for affected institutions, investors and other market participants.

    Source: http://www.budget.gc.ca/2013/doc/pla...et2013-eng.pdf
    The "goUbbermint" does not create laws like this, unless they plan on implementing them imo.

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    I've been posting about derivatives and counterparty risk. lots of investors believe they are hedged against risk by use of hedges employed by the asset they are invested in. the problem with hedges is that someone has to assume the risk of the asset falling in price when they issue the hedge. what if the entity selling the hedges can't pay? you get a cascading domino effect of collapse and in this intertwined global financial market that means systemic risk.

    today glencore ( heavy duty commodities entity glencore cds) stock has plunged 30% (today). remember that when derivatives are employed the effects either up or down are magnified in proportion to the leverage employed. glencore has about 75 $billion in outstanding derivative liability iirc.

    Quote Commodities being sold systemically despite a lack of FX-driven impact
    commodity $carnage is due to 1). lack of demand in a severe global recession and 2).due to a liquidity crisis where players in da game need to come up with more collateral to cover their market bets when the asset class they pledged as collateral loses value.

    Quote And even more worrying, Bank counterparty risk is re-soaring...
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...re-liquidation

    the entities selling hedges against commodity prices falling are sweating bullets.

    if these entities can't pay off their losing hedges they go belly up causing another round of cascading dominoes.

    the entire financial system world wide is based on too little collateral serving as the foundation for way too much leverage.




    this image ^^ depicts the current fiat debt bubble Ponzi scheme. does it look stable to you?


    just a little too much movement ( like right now) and the thing goes "bust".
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    Hi Idiit, do you think we are very close to a real global financial collapse then? I've been trying to follow this but am no expert.
    Edited to add...it looked like a few weeks ago things were imminent, then they stabalized again...what's the situation now please?

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    ^ I gave my last prediction couple weeks ago. I thought we'd have a bloody Monday then and it did not happen. the Rothschild Zionist controlled federal reserve ( not federal, no reserves) can and do legally and literally virtually create $trillions out of thin air. all markets are manipulated by the legally counterfeited worlds reserve currency frn$ bubble pumping. the usa federal gubmint and their shills ( federal reserve bank) funded some of their puppet banks to "plunge protection team" kick the can by artificially inflating stock market prices like they've been doing since 2008 lehman brothers incident. saved by fiat. fiat means "funny money".

    all financial experts I respect think it's a gonna blow soon, very soon.

    here's a great article that shares the perspective I believe is accurate:

    Quote The Final Flush Is At Hand!


    Posted September 27th, 2015
    Quote This past week, the following article was forwarded all over the internet

    http://investmentwatchblog.com/if-de...an-times-five/ as Deutsche Bank is “all of a sudden news”. Maybe this is a “German thing” with the latest out of Volkswagen? Deutsche Bank is not “all of a sudden”, they have been a derivatives monster for years and were saved in 2008 with part of the $16 trillion the Fed generously sprayed all over the world. The title suggesting DB will be the equivalent of five Lehmans is on the right track but not nearly severe enough. They are tied with JP Morgan as THE largest holder of derivatives in the world. Should Deutsche Bank fail, EVERYTHING FINANCIAL FAILS! It can even be said, “the entire world is Lehman” just waiting for their credit line to be cut 48 hours before complete failure.
    Quote What we are looking at now it “the FINAL FLUSH” of the Western financial system. The Federal Reserve has lost all credibility. This has followed both the Bank of Japan and European Central Bank being seen as hopelessly neutered of the ability to support the system. Confidence was THE very last “hope” and the Fed gave even that away last week. Of course the mainstream media chimed in on Friday saying the “market was up in the hopes of a rate hike in December”. Really? Are we to believe a tightening of credit is a good thing for a system buried in leverage and being dogged with liquidity drying up? This is like saying a flame thrower is the best tool for the California fires?

    Money Velocity has crashed and so has global trade. Leveraged commodity trades have blown up and left many sectors dysfunctional. Has anyone stopped to think who (other than the sectors themselves) stands to lose with $45 oil? Maybe the lenders? Would this not tighten credit even further? Why do a dozen “advanced” economies already have stock markets in bear (minus 20%+) market territory?

    Geopolitically we have watched as West has lined up against East militarily in many spots all over the world. The short list includes the South China Sea, Ukraine, Yemen and of course Syria. Russia began the build up militarily several weeks back along the Ukraine border and more recently inside Syria. Now China is reportedly sending hardware to Syria including http://www.debka.com/article/24909/A...litary-buildup ships. These are not bluffs as active fighting already exists. Can the U.S. actually “win” in any of these arenas in conventional war? It’s OK, you know the answer in your own mind, you also know what the alternative to losing conventionally is.

    Before going any further I must ask you this question. Does the rule of law exist in the United States anymore? How many bankers went to jail over the blatant fraud in banking, real estate/mortgages? How many brokers went to jail for stacking MBS securities with guaranteed defaults while betting against the pools? How many exposed frauds within the Obama administration have gone un punished or even investigated? Do we really have three branches of government? Congress (Republicans) has done NOTHING they said they would when the public kicked out the snakes last November…only replaced by new ones apparently. The presidency has purged the armed forces of any conservative leadership and placed “czars” at the top of new and old agencies, what’s up with this?… which leaves the Supreme Court. They now effectively “write law” as they “interpret” ALL law. The Supremes will never see a duck as a duck and will write interpretations declaring the Sun full in the sky at midnight …final ruling and no appeal! “We the People” are screwed!

    Speaking of “We the People”, while QE was used to mesmerize the middle class by holding the markets up, it in fact has gutted our real economy and has destroyed any possibility of making money the old fashioned way …by working! We now have one half or more of our population “taking” benefits and the other half “giving” them, any hope of a recovery led by the middle class is now gone as is the middle class.

    Is it any wonder there are now shortages and tightness in the gold and silver markets? The East believes gold “IS” money, they also know the dollar is untenable and will not be a store of value. In fact, I believe China and Russia may step in to “help” the dollar fail. I still believe Mr. Putin will come forth with a “truth bomb”, I would love to be a fly (although hidden bugs will probably be everywhere) on the wall at tomorrow’s meeting between Presidents Xi and Obama. I can just imagine how the conversation might go, I cannot believe the U.S. will be barking ANY orders in any fashion. A sad statement but you must ask yourself this, does the U.S. have the power or ability to make demands? Remember, we are the debtor while they are the creditor!

    In my opinion we are already well within the jaws of a meltdown/shutdown as liquidity is evaporating. There are a dozen developed countries with their stock markets already in bear markets (down 20% or more). All crashes come from oversold levels just as bank runs come on fast and are a surprise at the time. What is coming should be NO SURPRISE to anyone as we are looking at the end of not only an empire but of a flawed system which has endured for far too many years! This was a solvency problem in 2008 and “liquidity” was the incorrect tool used then. Now it is a bigger solvency problem with an illiquidity kicker attached …while the Fed has already used every tool imaginable and every last ounce of credibility. The loss of confidence in the issuer of the world’s reserve currency would be bad enough in an unlevered world, the loss of confidence in today’s “debt world” will be a DISASTER!

    To wrap this up, do not let anything that may happen from here surprise you. The conditions are ripe for global currency crises and a shutdown of credit. The conditions are also ripe for hot war to explode in multiple venues. A meltdown or shutdown of markets will serve as a FINAL FLUSH of what remains left of the U.S. middle class. Without the “wealth” in stocks and homes, psychology will be toast. The U.S. is creating “income” from actual work at a third world level which is exactly where we are headed as our standard of living is “borrowed rather than owned”. My point is this, a market meltdown and credit shutdown will make the U.S. look like 1985 Bombay within weeks as we create nothing and have saved in “nothings” and owe everyone. This is the rosy scenario and assumes that martial law is not instituted (a poor assumption in my opinion!).
    http://www.jsmineset.com/2015/09/27/...sh-is-at-hand/

    look at the inverted financial pyramid. wall street gambling degenerates walk into a "wall street good ol' boy club; by invitation only" plop down $1 of faux money ( debt based frn$ fiat currency) and get to place $100 or more in bets off that one 1$ fiat currency bet. if they lose, the system of good o' boy's federal reserve sends them some more $ loans or allows them to sell $us treasuries bonds that they don't even own. if they win they are promoted to 'management'.

    no collateral. the base should be at the top and the top should be at the base of the inverted global financial pyramid.

    this system was designed to bankrupt every nation, all ppl: problem

    the starving desperate masses demand their "mis-leaders" do something to solve the problem: reaction

    implementation of martial law and NWO steps in: solution
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    Quote The system has been totally hijacked. Make NO mistake about it, gold was hit hard when the paper trading in London cranked up after the SGE had turned off its lights for the day. The reason: Glencore.

    Anyone remember Enron? Probably not. Most people have already forgotten, mostly, that their taxpayer dollars were used by ex-Goldman CEO Henry Paulson to bail out Goldman Sachs in 2008 when he was Treasury Secretary. His primary motive was to preserve the value of the $250 million in warrants he still owned after he got to unload $500 million in stock – tax-free. Recently Zerohedge found a snapshot of Paulson laughing about the entire matter.

    Glencore is going to make Enron look like a polite tea and cake break. Gold was smashed when paper London opened because the Fed, BoE and ECB can not under any circumstances let the price of gold spike up – like it should be doing – and thereby alert the world that there’s a big problem in the world of derivatives related to Glencore, among other “things” (Emerging Market FX contract, energy, Biotech ETFs, etc).

    The issue with Glencore, since we all saw it coming which means the Central Banks saw it coming, is the degree to which the CB’s have been able to “brace” for its impact. The problem, however, is that just like Enron and the big banks before it, there is 100% probability that Glencore upper management has: a) lied about the market value of its assets, both on and off balance sheet; b) has lied about the true amount and nature of its derivatives exposure; c) has been lied to by rank and file who are in charge of accounting and reporting the data to upper management (trust, me I know this goes on because I saw it first-hand at Bankers Trust; and foremost, e) has NO idea the true nature of its total exposure to the full lunar eclipse world of OTC derivatives.

    Given that Glencore management has fed the Central Banks a big bag of lies about the size of the risk exposure at the Company, it’s not probable that the Central Banks are properly prepared to put out the fuse on the nuclear derivatives bomb that has been lit. This is why the stock market is ****ting the bed today and this why the price of gold was bombed like an ISIS camp by a joint effort of London and NYC bombers.

    Just ask Jamie Dimon about this regard in reference to the London Whale blow up. Dimon admitted that he had no idea how large JPM’s exposure was at the time. The London Whale is a sea-algae molecule in size compared to Glencore and the entire body of OTC derivatives connected to anything Glencore has touched.

    Can you smell middle class flesh burning yet? It’s starting to burn my nostrils…
    http://investmentresearchdynamics.com/ emphasis mine

    stocks are plunging, gold's pummeled as the wizard tries to keep dorothy from pulling back the curtains.

    you can't hardly buy physical silver due to crashing supply and overwhelming demand, yet paper silver market pricing is crushed downwards. the cabal knows that when silver goes sky high the Ponzi party is over. watch silver prices to know when it's game over for fiat currency and hello precious metals brics world currency ushered in for a new global financial system based on COLLATERAL. the bottom tip of the investment pyramid pictured two or three posts above will become the broad base of the new brics world currency.
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