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    I just noticed this article and it interested me because ion has been saying for
    several weeks, when asked about the droughts in California, that floods are on the
    way. I cannot remember the exact quotes as they are amongst many hours of the
    show and unless I make a note at the time, or Ed Long formally at International
    Farm before he closed the site to concentrate on the Ion and Bob information and
    discussions.Post them as individual segments , I looked on the site link below but
    could not see anything.

    http://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/
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    Current El Nino climate event 'among the strongest'

    By Matt McGrath
    Environment correspondent, BBC News
    2 hours ago.... From the section Science & Environment

    pacific storms

    Three category four storms seen together in the Pacific for the first time

    The current El Nino weather phenomenon could be one of the strongest on record,
    according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).The event occurs when the
    waters of the Pacific become exceptionally warm and distort weather patterns around
    the world.Researchers say parts of the Pacific are likely to be 2C warmer than usual.
    The WMO says that this year's event is strengthening and will peak by the end of this
    year.The strongest El Nino on record was in 1997-98, but there were events that were
    significantly above the norm in 1972-73 and again ten years later in 1982-83.Scientists
    say that the event now underway is sending sea temperatures in parts of the Pacific to
    levels not seen since the late 1990s.

    In a statement the WMO said that this El Nino was gathering strength.

    "Models and expert opinion suggest that surface water temperatures in the east-central
    tropical Pacific Ocean are likely to exceed 2C above average, potentially placing this El
    Nino event among the four strongest events since 1950," it said.The WMO says that
    patterns of cloudiness and rainfall near the international dateline developed during the
    second quarter of this year and have been well maintained. These patterns are
    considered essential in triggering El Nino's global climate impacts which are more likely
    to be felt over the next six to eight months.

    "Compared to the last major El Nino event in 1997-1998, there is much more
    information available," said Maxx Dilley from WMO.

    "We have better models and are much more prepared."

    "It is a test case for the early warning systems and climate information systems of WMO
    members and we are hoping that will be of assistance to some of the affected
    countries," said Mr Dilley

    The phenomenon can alter established weather patterns in different parts of the world,
    bringing severe drought to parts of Asia while at the same time bringing heavy flooding
    to some parts of North America.

    hurricane

    Storms like Hurricane Jimena in the Pacific are said to increase the energy available for El Nino

    It can increase flooding in the Horn of Africa while making Southern Africa drier.The
    events are likely to lead to a decrease in storm events in the Atlantic and the Gulf of
    Mexico and an increase in storminess in the eastern Pacific.

    This El Nino has also impacted the South Asian monsoon.

    "We are seeing that the Indian monsoon right now is almost 12% below normal. There
    is only a month left of the summer monsoon season making it difficult to recover," said
    WMO's El Nino expert Rupa Kumar Kolli.

    "That was the kind of early warning information we can extract from the El Nino signal
    and it helps policy makers to prepare," he said.Currently, the Pacific is seeing a surge of
    hurricane activity, with three category four strength tropical storms swirling around the
    Hawaiian islands. Researchers say that these hurricanes can disrupt the predominant
    easterly trade winds that are found along the equator. This disruption allows more heat
    to build up in the eastern part of the Pacific, adding more fuel to stormy conditions.
    But researchers cautioned that the scale of impacts, especially in the northern
    hemisphere, is very hard to read because there is also an Arctic warming effect seen in
    the Atlantic jet stream.

    "The truth is we don't know what will happen. Will the two patterns reinforce each
    other? Will they cancel each other? Are they going to act in sequence? Are they going to
    be regional? We really don't know," David Carlson, the director of the World Climate
    Research Programme, told news agencies.

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    Default Re: 2015 The Current El Nino climate event 'among the strongest'

    Bring it on, my well is going dry!

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    Right now California will welcome the water. People are letting their lawns die now, and the trees.
    Blessed Be to You and Me.

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    Default Re: 2015 The Current El Nino climate event 'among the strongest'

    This has absolutely nothing to do with natural phenomenon of planetary science.

    This is entirely man made only this time the energy levels are far greater as result of CERNs activities.

    The heating of the Pacific is done by space based weapons blasting high energy into the ocean at key circulating points of the oceans convection currents.

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    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    This has absolutely nothing to do with natural phenomenon of planetary science.

    This is entirely man made only this time the energy levels are far greater as result of CERNs activities.

    The heating of the Pacific is done by space based weapons blasting high energy into the ocean at key circulating points of the oceans convection currents.
    How is the energy generated to do that? It would need many Gigawatts (and probably Terawatts to heat vast oceans) at least. How can this be done without anyone detecting so much energy beaming down from the sky? It's presumably not done with a pencil-thin beam, so what happens to ships and islands that are in the way?

    Where are the devices that are doing this? Are they geostationary at 22,300 miles out (which makes beaming so much energy to the sea orders of magnitude more difficult), or are they in low earth orbit to be visible with the naked eye, like the ISS or the many hundreds of smaller satellites?

    If it is man made (and we need some proof here if we're not including climate change), I doubt a space-based weapon can sneak that much energy into the vast Pacific Ocean without someone noticing.

    And why would anyone do this anyway?

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    This has absolutely nothing to do with natural phenomenon of planetary science.

    This is entirely man made only this time the energy levels are far greater as result of CERNs activities.

    The heating of the Pacific is done by space based weapons blasting high energy into the ocean at key circulating points of the oceans convection currents.
    How is the energy generated to do that? It would need many Gigawatts (and probably Terawatts to heat vast oceans) at least. How can this be done without anyone detecting so much energy beaming down from the sky? It's presumably not done with a pencil-thin beam, so what happens to ships and islands that are in the way?

    Where are the devices that are doing this? Are they geostationary at 22,300 miles out (which makes beaming so much energy to the sea orders of magnitude more difficult), or are they in low earth orbit to be visible with the naked eye, like the ISS or the many hundreds of smaller satellites?

    If it is man made (and we need some proof here if we're not including climate change), I doubt a space-based weapon can sneak that much energy into the vast Pacific Ocean without someone noticing.

    And why would anyone do this anyway?

    Nick
    The last part is the easy part. They are doing this to exterminate you and I. Oh! and billions of others as well.
    Why are they doing this? They are exterminating the current global population to cover a GRANDIOSE LIE. (Which I will not cover in this post)

    How is the energy generated to do this? IT ISN'T generated - IT IS ALREADY THERE, dormant and dynamic.

    This might assist Google: T Henry Moray, The sea of energy in which the Earth floats
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    Default Re: 2015 The Current El Nino climate event 'among the strongest'

    Here's a snippet taken randomly from T. Henry Morays book. Found on page 11:

    . . . No other radiations "pack such a wallop" as Cosmic Rays. Compared with other energies here on earth, they rate thousands and millions of times as powerful. Cosmic Rays energies seem to lie between 100 million and more than 100 billion volts. It is not possible to be any too definite and positive, because estimates necessarily change with additional experiments and knowledge. Comprehension becomes difficult when energies reach billions of volts. The highest electrical presssure on high-tension power lines is 250,000 volts. The peak of artificial electricity production for experimental purposes is 20 million volts. Lightning is rated at about 1 billion volts.
    Dr. Anderson's cloud chamber at California Institute of Technology in which the positron was discovered has furnished much information about cosmic ray energies. He found that some positrons are born of cosmic rays smashing into matter. The cosmic-ray energies deduced from the tracks left in the Anderson cloud chamber range from 100 volts to 3 billion volts. The Lemaitre-Vallarts theory together with Dr. Johnson's asymmetry measurements, give definite values for the energy of half of the cosmic radiation, and shows it continuously disturbed between 5 billion and 50 billion volts . . .


    With your background in electrical and electronic matters you shouldn't have much problem in "working the numbers" to garner the scale of the energy we are considering. We are actually referring to Jacobs Ladder of Old Testament fame.

    Anyways moving on, the satellites will have the broadcast signals amplified as well, then principles of "Q" switch amplification and modulation come into play. There is an awful lot more that I haven't the info for which I would expect to find. Refer to keshe and plasma physics for those principles.

    Hope this helps, will come back to this later, have to dash now.
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    Default Re: 2015 The Current El Nino climate event 'among the strongest'

    Yep, and due to BP oil spill the warming band is in the northern regions as the "new" dead szone heat up the ocean in Gulf. It's really gonna be a bumpy weather ride soon, batten down the hatches. I remember in science how Mr. Bowen explained currents, cross winds and temperature barometer readings, on the planets. Jupiter's storms across the equator and the massive storms from unstable chemicals in the atmosphere. Hmm.. Are we gonna continue until votexes are the norm?

    That was their plan for profit, not ours.
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    I think it's to try to escape "wrath of the creator or sons of God. If everything we think is manifested and the foretelling of his return in every book, then it stands to reason by now these: "mums the word elites" want to take the followers and leave everyone else until weather and magnetic electric storms/aka the lightnings pass. Then return and any survivors, make them an offer they can't refuse. Enslavement or death. How'd Bush say it, you're either with us or against us?
    Will they do as they did here for centuries on other time worlds in deeper regions/quadrants of the Universe? Possible, but this planets independence and sovereignity for human, marine, and air Earth creatures, to dwell here in peace among one another "has been heard." Again if thoughts manifested produce a Savior Son of God by Creation, then it's very possible this manifestation/Son of God Savior has a timeline to return, otherwise, what else could have instilled such a strong faith and evolutionary peoples, for said time and arrival? I believe the fear or stubborn selfishness of the elites, is because or due to the knowledge of this. Otherwise again, why seek out the fabled God weapons, God particle, or every ancient relic, if the ancestors only used stone and wood tools? Zacharia's "The Wars of Gods and Men" come to mind and foretold of humans and Gods banding together to irradicate, a couple of bad God Sons and cohorts. I think that's why Zach Sitchen was murdered Oct 2010 in a hotel.
    Just saying some "visual warnings or harbingers are due. If not just for the set in between times of planetary activity, but spiritual too when a people face full annailation that have nothing/no participation in the people's destruction. Always their come-uppance/karma/Universal Law/punishment.
    Brings to mind in Revelation 18:4 to "Come away from her my people. do not partake of "her" sins."
    Just saying if religious fanatics are paying attention, this may be their motivation as the "rulers" are put in by grace of God, unless someone cheats, or assassinates the choice/prophet. They've killed many prophets, history is full of them.
    (stta)something to think about.
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    We need to focus on rain hitting the "west's" parched land to fill the lakes streams and ponds. The forest fires are raging and park services are chasing the buffalo back into Yellowstone, as instinct of eruption tells them to flee away.

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    Get your water capture on. Also we as humans need to collect vast amounts of "over snow" to also transport. Perhaps CA and a northern city like NY, CT, VT, Chicago, PA Wyoming team up on transport and loading pay to get it to drought areas that are suffering. Drop off on the hot rocks, will melt to the rivers and streams. Even Colorado river could use it. Thinking is our forte' so let's get it done so jobs for the unskilled like shoveling in cold temps, or driving refrigerated trucks that warm up/via solar panels, before the dump.

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    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    Lightning is rated at about 1 billion volts.
    Dr. Anderson's cloud chamber at California Institute of Technology in which the positron was discovered has furnished much information about cosmic ray energies. He found that some positrons are born of cosmic rays smashing into matter. The cosmic-ray energies deduced from the tracks left in the Anderson cloud chamber range from 100 volts to 3 billion volts. The Lemaitre-Vallarts theory together with Dr. Johnson's asymmetry measurements, give definite values for the energy of half of the cosmic radiation, and shows it continuously disturbed between 5 billion and 50 billion volts . . .[/I]

    With your background in electrical and electronic matters you shouldn't have much problem in "working the numbers" to garner the scale of the energy we are considering. We are actually referring to Jacobs Ladder of Old Testament fame.

    Anyways moving on, the satellites will have the broadcast signals amplified as well, then principles of "Q" switch amplification and modulation come into play. There is an awful lot more that I haven't the info for which I would expect to find. Refer to keshe and plasma physics for those principles.

    Hope this helps, will come back to this later, have to dash now.
    Keshe is a fraud (no product, lots of failed promises, continual manipulation of "date based' hype)

    You don't understand electricity (I have a taser that puts out 900,000 volts I'm sure if I lowered the amps enough I could get it closer to 1 billion volts, but what does that matter if it's .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 amps?)

    P = V * I

    ( P is electricity power; V is voltage; I is electricity current )

    think about that equation and what V and I can equal

    anthropomorphic climate change is not a fact, it is a guess, and a poor one at that. ( Using CERN to heat the ocean? Do you have any concept of the amount of energy it would take to alter a body of water that large?)

    Quote Posted by Lifebringer (here)
    We need to focus on rain hitting the "west's" parched land to fill the lakes streams and ponds. The forest fires are raging and park services are chasing the buffalo back into Yellowstone, as instinct of eruption tells them to flee away.
    Over 250,000,000 acres have burned in Alaska this summer.

    Anyone know that?

    no?

    How about this: this is a natural cycle that we don't like because we are afraid of any type of change whatsoever (even though change is the only thing you can count on)

    I'm going to focus on adapting to what ever this planet throws at me, far be it from me to wish for changes in a system I barely comprehend.
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    Default Re: 2015 The Current El Nino climate event 'among the strongest'

    Indeed TargeT. What many people do who are unfamiliar with the physics of electricity is to confuse voltage with power - they usually just use the word 'energy' without defining it which doesn't help. Power is the product of voltage and current.

    A piezo-electric gas lighter generates at least 1000 volts, but no significant power as the current is only micro amps.

    And why bring "Q" and modulation into the discussion? Q is a function of tuned circuits and their bandwidth. I guess it could be seen as some sort of magic amplification factor, but it's only related to losses in a tuned circuit; the lower the losses the greater the Q and the narrower the bandwidth. So what...?

    Regarding modulation, it is simply the superimposition one on signal onto another. That could be sound onto a radio signal or vibrato on a musical note. Again, so what?

    Exactly how CERN directs the energy that "is already there" also needs some clarification.

    Not sure about Keshe. If he's a fraud how come he has lasted so long? He appears to have many followers, and makes long videos, but I have yet to see anyone on this forum say they have followed his work and describe their success in making free energy.
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    Default Re: 2015 The Current El Nino climate event 'among the strongest'

    On topic
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    Both Voltage and current are magnetism dependant.
    Instead of weaponising the science as you claim proficientcy, use the technology to build sensors and instruments that benefit the human body than destroying it.

    The same consideration to Bigger devices that broadcast beams of charged energy particles free from tether constraint doing exactly the same as your device at our level from those big ones, a billion billion times more powerful targeting and setting flame to forests and woodland world wide.

    The technology that drives the satellite industry is complex though the science of the "field" in which they operate is quite simple. It is heavily managed by the Industrial Military Authorities. Who finances these operations?

    @Nick
    Excellent answer and a spring board for researchers to find the natural link between those very categories of science listed as you have. As those are fundamental to the principles that are essential to understand propagation of energy.

    As said before, voltage and current are magnetism dependant. You will find things a lot easier to understand when I ask you to consider only one thing, that everthing you have ever been told about dark matter is in fact a "cover" for it being magnetism.

    voltage and current are magnetism dependant

    In the commercial world we address the fundamental components to our "numpty" matrix of electricity to the regulatory world as defined by the Authorities within the limits of scale within our man made, built environment. Our electricity is generated for us for that purpose and is highly inefficient. In this world we limit our discusion to the commercial terms of voltage and current which are both ascribed value by the field of economics. So in that respect you are absolutely correct.

    However, when you consider the cosmos and the the sheer number of charged particles moving around in space then there must have been magnetism first to promote the energy in the first place, before they would appear. In this environment the equation looks a whole lot different as Power now equals Magnetism. Here the magnetic component is dominant and the exploitation of these fields enables production of plasma of immense energies as well as tickles too.

    It is this latter that is being used by Authorities to manipulate the weather patterns by interfering with the natural coriolis forces around the sphere.

    Eradicating fish stocks with the by product of exterminating mammalian fish stock crashing on our shores, their brains trashed by the burning broadcast beams. Droughts world wide to infuse starvation across whole swathes of the globe. Storms, tornados and typhoons are simply achieved with this science and technology.

    So talkng about el Nino and considering it a continual cyclic problem does not stand scrutiny until full disclosure of the systems they have in space. There is ample evidence to source the use of these weapons in our communities now and even more elaborate news in large scale devices. Check out for yourselves who has ownership of these systems.

    Managing the weather and natural forces infuses global control. Once the energy is put there it can be exploited in any number of ways.

    The flip side is this same technology can cure the world. But I suspect that option is too early as the assault does appear continual now.

    Anyways, I have nothing more to say on this matter other than stated here because this thing is just too big for martyrdom. Though I support independant oversight.

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    Quote voltage and current are magnetism dependent
    I'm not sure what you mean by this. You can generate a voltage by friction without magnetism, as in a Van der Graaf generator for example. Or rubbing a plastic pen on a dry cloth.

    You can generate a current by moving a conductor in a magnetic field. Or chemically, or by exposing some semiconductors to light.

    I have no doubt there will be other ways of generating electricity - possibly using physics not yet understood.

    An electric current generates a magnetic field. A voltage generates an electrostatic field. For anything useful to happen we need both. Is this what you mean?

    Quote As said before, voltage and current are magnetism dependent. You will find things a lot easier to understand when I ask you to consider only one thing, that everything you have ever been told about dark matter is in fact a "cover" for it being magnetism.
    Interesting. Do you have a source for that?

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    Weather is already controlled by the power thirsty bastards through HAARP, there is no need to debate about hidden science/tech. This is a good video about HAARP for those who haven't seen it:
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    I've just started listening to last night/this morning show and aprox 12mins
    into hour 2 after talking to Lesley about disappearing fruit as a shift in the
    atmosphere. Ion again say that this years El Nino is going to be a 'Godzilla'
    of a storm and California is going to be hit by one of the biggest in recent
    history , Unfortunately they are speaking in riddles and asked whether will
    it drive the dry away ? The reply was " it will drown the drought ".

    I can only think if you live in an area prone to flooding be prepared for
    anything and if you are able , stocking up with some extra can goods
    and bottled water may be prudent ? or keep escape routes in mind ?

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    Here's a snippet taken randomly from T. Henry Morays book. Found on page 11:

    . . . No other radiations "pack such a wallop" as Cosmic Rays. Compared with other energies here on earth, they rate thousands and millions of times as powerful. Cosmic Rays energies seem to lie between 100 million and more than 100 billion volts. It is not possible to be any too definite and positive, because estimates necessarily change with additional experiments and knowledge. Comprehension becomes difficult when energies reach billions of volts. The highest electrical presssure on high-tension power lines is 250,000 volts. The peak of artificial electricity production for experimental purposes is 20 million volts. Lightning is rated at about 1 billion volts.
    Dr. Anderson's cloud chamber at California Institute of Technology in which the positron was discovered has furnished much information about cosmic ray energies. He found that some positrons are born of cosmic rays smashing into matter. The cosmic-ray energies deduced from the tracks left in the Anderson cloud chamber range from 100 volts to 3 billion volts. The Lemaitre-Vallarts theory together with Dr. Johnson's asymmetry measurements, give definite values for the energy of half of the cosmic radiation, and shows it continuously disturbed between 5 billion and 50 billion volts . . .


    With your background in electrical and electronic matters you shouldn't have much problem in "working the numbers" to garner the scale of the energy we are considering. We are actually referring to Jacobs Ladder of Old Testament fame.
    "Voltage" is not a measure of energy. It is a measure of energy per unit charge. A single electron at billions of volts wouldn't harm a flea.
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    I cannot believe you have just said that Paul.

    WHAT mechanism put that "voltage", "potential difference", "energy per unit charge", (are there any other "book" schooling you would like to add?), there in the first place?

    Stop thinking like a librarian! It's that thought process that has kept current science in the dark. So where does that electrical energy come from?

    Why is energy undefined? (rhetorical - more of a push)

    So this thread is about the el Nino. I claim space based energy weapons are being used to transfer energy between regions of our layers of atmospshere to negatively impact our weather systems on Earth. I am suggesting the source fields are "magnetic" and not electrical at all. They are only described as electrical as that is the only form of instrumentation we have to analyse the environment out there.

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    Quote voltage and current are magnetism dependent
    I'm not sure what you mean by this. You can generate a voltage by friction without magnetism, as in a Van der Graaf generator for example. Or rubbing a plastic pen on a dry cloth.

    You can generate a current by moving a conductor in a magnetic field. Or chemically, or by exposing some semiconductors to light.

    I have no doubt there will be other ways of generating electricity - possibly using physics not yet understood.

    An electric current generates a magnetic field. A voltage generates an electrostatic field. For anything useful to happen we need both. Is this what you mean?

    Quote As said before, voltage and current are magnetism dependent. You will find things a lot easier to understand when I ask you to consider only one thing, that everything you have ever been told about dark matter is in fact a "cover" for it being magnetism.
    Interesting. Do you have a source for that?
    Source: Apparently me at this moment. I'm absolutely sure this has been suggested before though am unable to quote other sources per se.

    The cosmos seeks balance. Equilibrium. The cosmos has one source. Magnetism.

    Magnetism also embraces space and time as both are equally undefined in respect to the cosmos. Man thinks differently.
    Only our entrenched obedience and awareness of energies dangers do we comply through our "conspired" education and regulatory environments governing our lives. Wo-b'tide, anyone that breaches or breaks the rules managing energy. So we stay within the language boundaries that we have been taught to use descibing the energy industry bestowed upon us.

    When magnetism is compressed and then vibrated will start the resction. From this start anything can be produced.
    By broadcasting HF energy even at microwatts through "lens configured" layers of highly compressed magnetic rings in Earths ionosphere(s) will produce plasma(s). As easily as flicking a switch.

    This is how I believe the technology is being used in the el Nino weather event. But, it is also being used globally to commit forest fires, slaughter of fish stock, earthquakes and a range of other activities.

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