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    1/2 of Americans see their government as threat – poll

    Almost half of the US population - 49 percent - regards the government as a threat to their lives and liberty, according to a new Gallup poll. Distrust in the federal government has been on the rise since 2006, when it stood at 46 percent.
    The poll was conducted between September 9 and September 13, and included an open-ended question whether the US government was an “immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens.” Two in three Republicans and one in three Democrats answered yes, Gallup noted.

    Among those agreeing, one in five was most concerned about the government becoming too big, too powerful, and having too many laws. Another 15 percent cited violations of freedoms and civil liberties, while 12 percent cited gun control efforts and threats to the 2nd amendment.


    A September 9 poll conducted by UK researcher YouGov indicated that a third of the country would back a military coup, and that the public perceived the military as far more inclined to act in the public interest than Congress.

    http://www.rt.com/usa/316139-govt-im...e-threat-poll/

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    Default Re: Who says people aren't waking up?

    Good post :-)

    However, the graph has cut off the vertical axis so it makes it look
    as if there's been more growth than there has in reality.
    Try extending the y-axis down to 0 and up to 100% and you'll see the
    true picture appears much more horizontal.

    According to the graph, Americans have woken up 5% in nearly 10 years.
    They clearly need more coffee ...or a good shaking.

    On the other hand, Americans work too hard, they simply haven't got the time to
    think about trivialities like totalitarianism, global proxy wars, nukes in china
    or funding foreign terrorism.

    Perhaps all that will change soon with the soaring unemployment rates.

    be happy :-)

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    Default Re: Who says people aren't waking up?

    There's still a long way to go, but it's encouraging that a large percentage of the population see the government as an actual threat, and not just a nuisance. We can only hope the number continues to grow.

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    Quote Posted by Ted (here)
    There's still a long way to go, but it's encouraging that a large percentage of the population see the government as an actual threat, and not just a nuisance. We can only hope the number continues to grow.
    Yes indeedy ...

    And just because those newly awakening don't spend all their time on conspiracy forums
    (as those of us here on the vanguard), doesn't mean it is not happening faster than not ...

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    Default Re: Who says people aren't waking up?

    If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

    Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!

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    Question Re: Who says people aren't waking up?

    Quote Posted by observer (here)
    If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

    Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!
    You live too close to New Jersey, come out West.

    PS - i wouldn't associate waking up with US/Israeli government policies.
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    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)
    Quote Posted by observer (here)
    If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

    Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!
    You live too close to New Jersey, come out West.
    Oh!!! Right, to the land of mandatory vaccinations.... that's the ticket....

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    Quote Posted by observer (here)
    If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

    Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!
    i have a fellow avalonian staying with me right now who is in his early-mid 20s... the people he has contacting him from all over the world to me is amazing... they are all between 18-30 and are having dreams and visions of things to come... are seeing humans as humans not as migrants, male or female,etc... for me it is very encouraging to see this, however they do not have the background research or where-with-all to approach country/global problems at their root... which is understandable to me given the age of distraction we live in... for me what I am hearing it is encouragement to me soul...

    That being said, strictly speaking about americans as a whole, those "waking-up" and not trusting the government, do not know what to do as a whole to fix this place...this is what Im seeing... Its knowing something is wrong and crying like a baby but not knowing how to fix it... they have not let go of their biases, racist thoughts, nor selfish attitudes... It is only because they are now feeling the "heat" that it seems that americans as a whole are "waking up" in reference to the subject of the original post...

    reminds me of that saying about "...they came for the socialist but i was not socialist so didn't say anything, they came for the preacher but im not christian so i didn't say anything...etc"

    If it is not to late, the 30 yr olds down, givin time are gonna surprise the hell out of us... let us hope we have that much time to change the landscape of the minds and actions on earth...
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    I think Ted is correct. The state of our government here is no indication that people aren't waking up. As an analogy, a neighborhood that has been seized by gangsters can be totally aware and awake to the fact, and yet still be unable to do anything about it. The whole world is the same straits. People are waking up, but there aren't enough awake, yet. But honestly, I think time is on our side. Everything they do only makes it more obvious what they are doing. Every day, they tip their hand a little more.

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    Quote Posted by Selkie (here)
    I think Ted is correct. The state of our government here is no indication that people aren't waking up. As an analogy, a neighborhood that has been seized by gangsters can be totally aware and awake to the fact, and yet still be unable to do anything about it. The whole world is the same straits. People are waking up, but there aren't enough awake, yet. But honestly, I think time is on our side. Everything they do only makes it more obvious what they are doing. Every day, they tip their hand a little more.
    we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

    as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...
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    Quote Posted by Ted (here)
    There's still a long way to go, but it's encouraging that a large percentage of the population see the government as an actual threat, and not just a nuisance. We can only hope the number continues to grow.
    I agree. And funny, how when someone demonstrates progress, as Ted has done, its immediately leaped upon as NOT GOOD ENOUGH. So I hope that peeps can stop hating on Americans for two seconds, and give credit where credit is due.

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    I think Ted is correct. The state of our government here is no indication that people aren't waking up. As an analogy, a neighborhood that has been seized by gangsters can be totally aware and awake to the fact, and yet still be unable to do anything about it. The whole world is the same straits. People are waking up, but there aren't enough awake, yet. But honestly, I think time is on our side. Everything they do only makes it more obvious what they are doing. Every day, they tip their hand a little more.
    we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

    as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...
    Well, give people a chance, for chrissake.

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    If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

    Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!
    Yes, they are waking up. Just because they are not as awake as you would like them to be is beside the point.

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    Quote we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

    as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...
    Quote Well, give people a chance, for chrissake.
    Im sorry you think I don't... I was giving an observation with encouragement in my opinion... but we know what opinions are like dont we...

    and who is Chris?!
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    Quote Posted by thunder24 (here)
    Quote we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

    as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...
    Quote Well, give people a chance, for chrissake.
    Im sorry you think I don't... I was giving an observation with encouragement in my opinion... but we know what opinions are like dont we...

    and who is Chris?!
    I meant, give them a chance to inform themselves once they've woken up. Waking up can be a big shock. People often lose all their friends and family when they wake up. I certainly did.

    Lesson in American English: chrissake:

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    Quote Posted by Selkie (here)
    Quote Posted by thunder24 (here)
    Quote we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

    as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...
    Quote Well, give people a chance, for chrissake.
    Im sorry you think I don't... I was giving an observation with encouragement in my opinion... but we know what opinions are like dont we...

    and who is Chris?!
    I meant, give them a chance to inform themselves once they've woken up. Waking up can be a big shock. People often lose all their friends and family when they wake up. I certainly did.

    Lesson in American English: chrissake:

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us...lish/Chrissake

    waking up can be a big shock, thus why i said what i did about having people that can help inform those "waking up"...

    and sorry we don't speak American english here in my part of the Appalachian mountains... but thankyou for "informing" me... you might be the kind of person i was talking about that would be "informers"...
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    Quote Posted by thunder24 (here)
    Quote Posted by Selkie (here)
    Quote Posted by thunder24 (here)
    Quote we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

    as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...
    Quote Well, give people a chance, for chrissake.
    Im sorry you think I don't... I was giving an observation with encouragement in my opinion... but we know what opinions are like dont we...

    and who is Chris?!
    I meant, give them a chance to inform themselves once they've woken up. Waking up can be a big shock. People often lose all their friends and family when they wake up. I certainly did.

    Lesson in American English: chrissake:

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us...lish/Chrissake

    waking up can be a big shock, thus why i said what i did about having people that can help inform those "waking up"...

    and sorry we don't speak American english here in my part of the Appalachian mountains... but thankyou for "informing" me... you might be the kind of person i was talking about that would be "informers"...
    Glad I could be of help

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    Quote Posted by Selkie (here)

    [....snip]

    Quote Posted by observer (here)
    If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

    Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!
    Yes, they are waking up. Just because they are not as awake as you would like them to be is beside the point.
    My comment had nothing to do with what I would like to see. It was directed at how far short of the target we really are, and how - even those who think they are awake - have no clue how dangerously close we are to the tipping-point.

    Within the next 8 days we could be facing the trigger-event for World War III. Is the world awake enough for that to occur while we all enjoy a "spot of morning tea.... down on the veranda"?

    "Look Mommy, what's that funny-shaped cloud over the city?"

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    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)

    [....snip]

    PS - i wouldn't associate waking up with US/Israeli government policies.
    Name for me at least one incumbent politician down in D.C. with whom the Israeli Government isn't deep into their pocket. This situation has been expediting over the past 50+ years to the total obfuscation of the American Voting Public.

    Israeli control of Washington's policies is the root of the problem, and few among us are awake to that understanding.

    "For the sake of one righteous man, would thou then not destroy this place?"

    Remember this: Benghazi was a clandestine US/Rebel arms deal gone bad, and allegations that the Ghouta Chemical Attack of 2013 was the result of poorly trained insurgents mishandling sarin gas has never gone away.

    These are among the reasons for the current state-of-affairs in the region.
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    Before the vaccination bill was signed, California did stand up to it. Around 50 people showed up that were for vaccinations However, they stopped counting at the 1,300 who were against that stood there. There was no room for all who were against vaccinations. Many people carried with them sheets of signatures that had thousands more on it that were against vaccinations as well. Some children were there speaking out against mandatory vaccinations and some were damaged by the vaccinations. Pan has been under fire for being in bed with the same pharmaceutical companies that are for forced vaccinations. We are all in an uproar about it here. It is not over. Me and thousands and thousands of others are working to get this abolished. Have faith. We are trying out here!
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    People all around the world are being informed, starting their journey of unconditional love, finding their highest selves and truths. I feel this is true because the control system is slowly being crushed, and its rapidly increasing because so many people are becoming informed! I feel though being awake is a different story though. I honestly don't know who I was in this previous life time, I only really know myself here. But i did incarnate here for an indefinite reason and many other people in other soul groups did as well. I'm only 17, I have been so slack these last months, and i feel like its all caught up to me.. But still I've come so far. To a new beginning everyone!
    Only those who get back on their feet and look forward will have the last laugh, the only winner. To the loved ones that we've lost along the way... and to the hope that we see them again... someday.

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    Quote Posted by observer (here)
    Quote Posted by Selkie (here)

    [....snip]

    Quote Posted by observer (here)
    If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

    Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!
    Yes, they are waking up. Just because they are not as awake as you would like them to be is beside the point.
    My comment had nothing to do with what I would like to see. It was directed at how far short of the target we really are, and how - even those who think they are awake - have no clue how dangerously close we are to the tipping-point.

    Within the next 8 days we could be facing the trigger-event for World War III. Is the world awake enough for that to occur while we all enjoy a "spot of morning tea.... down on the veranda"?

    "Look Mommy, what's that funny-shaped cloud over the city?"

    And, to my good friend Giovinni:

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    [....snip]

    PS - i wouldn't associate waking up with US/Israeli government policies.
    Name for me at least one incumbent politician down in D.C. with whom the Israeli Government isn't deep into their pocket. This situation has been expediting over the past 50+ years to the total obfuscation of the American Voting Public.

    Israeli control of Washington's policies is the root of the problem, and few among us are awake to that understanding.

    "For the sake of one righteous man, would thou then not destroy this place?"

    Remember this: Benghazi was a clandestine US/Rebel arms deal gone bad, and allegations that the Ghouta Chemical Attack of 2013 was the result of poorly trained insurgents mishandling sarin gas has never gone away.

    These are among the reasons for the current state-of-affairs in the region.
    I am just so dismayed that people can find negativity in good news like Ted has posted, and use it as yet another excuse to hate on Americans and run us down. Its like we can't do anything right. Someone will always find fault.

    And maybe that's because people make the mistake of thinking that there is a republic in America, or even a democracy. I don't blame them for thinking it...after all, it is a myth that is widely believed by just about everyone, especially the Americans, themselves. We are the first victims of that psy-op, after all.

    But its not true. We don't live in a democracy, or even a republic. The fact is that we in the States live in a plutocratic oligarchy. Just like every other country.

    So I wish that the world would stop holding the American people to some impossible standard, and then finding fault when we don't meet it. It runs us down, and makes it even less likely that we will do anything about it.

    "...I'm junk but I'm still holdin' up this little wild bouquet."



    p.s. I understand you about the tipping point, but the world goes to war when the bankers say we go to war, the wishes of the public notwithstanding, not just in the U.S., but everywhere.
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    Default Re: Who says people aren't waking up?

    This thread sounds much like what runs through my little noggin' on any given day depending upon the circumstances and interactions i see around me or independently of any interactions. For me it's amazing to consider the possibility that there is a significant percentage of the population that simply does not want the types of positive change we do and do quite a bit to prevent their peers and family from seeing and following those inklings. That gets into some distracting directions on the unseen side but appears to me to be the case.

    I think spiritually speaking you can have many say of the youngest adult generations who are awake to a great degree as they can see the economic reality staring at them straight in the eye as they've been sold something that is 'less possible' and unlikely and yet those same folks will react against any push by people or their own intuitive forces and allow cognitive dissonance to get the better of them.

    It's really quite a mess on the surface and yet. There is so much more good happening everyday but we know what gets the attention.
    It's time to change this.

    Be cautious of placing oneself in a category it may serve to box you in and not even be correct.

    The quotes alone on peoples signatures are reason enough to be here.

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