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    I didn't film this one.

    This time, it's a very, very dear friend of mine's turn to unwittingly capture at least one, maybe two UFO's during the Thunderbirds demonstration at the 2015 Andrews AFB Airshow. He sent this into me on Friday.

    The first one streaks by at six seconds in at the top of the frame. If you pay attention, you can hear the sound as it streaks by.

    The second possible one is at the end of the video. It's a bright blip that flies from left to right from behind the tail of the C-5 parked on the left of the screen. It's moving
    pretty fast. There is a possibility that this is the "fifth or sixth Thunderbird" that zooms in and out of the area from time to time, but the speed is quite substantial.



    This clip was filmed in portrait mode with an iPhone6 Plus.

    Here is another example of how these things can "sneak in" to frame so subtly, that one never knows anything odd has been filmed until after reviewing it. He didn't notice any of the activity at the time of the filming, much like the daytime Joshua Tree and San Simeon clips posted on this channel.

    No CGI or any imagery has been added to this. Only contrast, brightness and gamma are changed in latter versions of zoomed in clips to bring out the detail. I mention this again in the spirit of understanding how jaded and cynical people are about videos in this field. I've seen some bad ones out there too, so I get it.

    I post this, in the interest of sharing with other researchers, and comparing with others who have had similar experiences. Thank you.

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    That's a great catch :-)

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    I think its a bird.

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    I don't think it's a bird, to me it appears to be a UFO that has been accidentially captured on a video. This is stuff that normal people in normal situations don't notice, but once it is on video and you see something blinking when playing back the video, you go - what's that. Once the focus is on the object you can map out that it is really some kind of high speed "device" that was captured on the video, however moves so quickly that it's difficult to even see it. In this case however it flies slowly enough that you are able to see it, but it's a very very high speed. The next question is of course who is in control of this UFO...

    BTW. The UFO I saw flew at this speed across the whole sky, but was much larger in size. It was incredible to see something moving across the sky at that speed with your own eyes, when you expect it should move at normal speed.
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    everyone knows that pigeons fly at supersonic speeds... that's why we call them racing pigeons, right ? ;-)

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    Default Re: UFO Flies Over Andrews Airshow Thunderbirds demo *Video*

    I think it looks like its flying fast because its close to the camera. That might be why its out of focus, too, since the camera is focused on the planes. People don't notice birds, either.

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    If you can disconnect your mind from the image and concentrate on your ears, the point just up-to and then slightly past the point in slow motion where the Unknown craft disappears, I think you can make out another sound. This sound draws towards you and then fades, it's a slight hum-hiss!

    That is I think the Unknown crafts sound!
    that Unknown makes me think of a few experiences/sightings (Well Soundings-no visual) that I had last year/early this year!
    I have witnessed on a few very clear days, in an area of long-distant horizononal view in all directions, something fly over at vast speed (A very fast whip-hiss) to which I quickly panned my head/eyes to see and follow but! nothing there?
    Like a bullet going over my head but I could tell it to be higher 3 to 4 thousand feet above me!

    Question:
    In comparison to the Thunderbirds craft how fast would you estimate the unknown?

    Intresting vid, thanks
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    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    Question:
    In comparison to the Thunderbirds craft how fast would you estimate the unknown?

    Intresting vid, thanks
    We are witnessing high-hypersonic speed... maybe 100 Mach... maybe more... It is a demonstration in superiority...

    This is what 9 Mach looks like:

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    Default Re: UFO Flies Over Andrews Airshow Thunderbirds demo *Video*

    I was stationed in Nevada right next door to the Thunderbird hanger for 4 years from 80-84. Nothing is really allowed in their airspace when their doing there demos , pretty wild video .

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    Quote Posted by pyrangello (here)
    I was stationed in Nevada right next door to the Thunderbird hanger for 4 years from 80-84. Nothing is really allowed in their airspace when their doing there demos , pretty wild video .
    Except birds.

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    Quote Posted by Selkie (here)
    I think it looks like its flying fast because its close to the camera. That might be why its out of focus, too, since the camera is focused on the planes. People don't notice birds, either.
    Maybe I'm seeing the wrong thing. I see like a white blur go from one cloud to the next. Wouldn't a bird keep flying thru? That's why I think I'm seeing the wrong thing. Lol.

    Edit. I see what you're seeing now. Yeah I think you're right. The one shape it changes looks very bird like. Fast bird though.
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    Quote Posted by WhiteLove (here)

    This is what 9 Mach looks like:
    Actually that video is .9 mach, (notice the decimal point), which is just under the speed of sound. As for the ufo, hard to guess how fast it may be traveling. It might possibly be a bird, as Selkie says, or it might be a ufo traveling at mach 9. (Not .9 mach).
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    I was stationed in Nevada right next door to the Thunderbird hanger for 4 years from 80-84. Nothing is really allowed in their airspace when their doing there demos , pretty wild video .
    Except birds.
    And large insects ... which is what I am leaning toward. Exactly as you said anything closer to the camera will have more motion blur, less definition, and appear far faster. The reason I am leaning toward large insect (think maybe cicada or something similar size) is the size to speed ratio, and the need for the wings to be flapping at a high rate, to give the "aura" effect around it - as can be seen in the slomo. Darker dot -- the body, the light coloured "aura" the result of high speed wing flapping in the sunlight, which is coming behind the object. The light would refract through an insects transparent wings and appear white as the video shows.
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    Default Re: UFO Flies Over Andrews Airshow Thunderbirds demo *Video*

    Personally, I really don't see how you could think that it's either a bird or an insect... It's not that I firmly want to believe that it's a UFO, I simply have no idea what this must've been. And if I saw it being a bird or an insect as a genuine possibility, then I would've honestly admitted it. But isn't it clear that it flies above the cloud deck? It appears in the center of the image, rather than from a side, and only because it is no longer being covered by clouds. And then, just before it leaves the image, it again gets covered by clouds rather than it covering them. For me, that indicates that it's flying above the cloud deck (at incredible speed) and that alone just rules the possibility of it being an animal out.

    Again, no idea what it is, but that's the way I look at it.

    Some interesting footage nonetheless and thank you for sharing, jimisroom.

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    The object can first be seen in a strong way at point 2:04 (well actually before that point as a zipping back and fort dot?) it comes up from the second level of clouds up through the third and off across the scene! You can see something (IT) bobbing and zipping about before taking off to the left. I know that you could still say it was a bird but near the camera dose not account, allow for the twist and upwards angle and speed, or maybe it still dose

    There is something else like a small bot/orb that falls top right to bottom left across the scene at the begging?
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    Quote Posted by Rhah (here)
    Personally, I really don't see how you could think that it's either a bird or an insect... It's not that I firmly want to believe that it's a UFO, I simply have no idea what this must've been. And if I saw it being a bird or an insect as a genuine possibility, then I would've honestly admitted it. But isn't it clear that it flies above the cloud deck? It appears in the center of the image, rather than from a side, and only because it is no longer being covered by clouds. And then, just before it leaves the image, it again gets covered by clouds rather than it covering them. For me, that indicates that it's flying above the cloud deck (at incredible speed) and that alone just rules the possibility of it being an animal out.

    Again, no idea what it is, but that's the way I look at it.

    Some interesting footage nonetheless and thank you for sharing, jimisroom.
    I'll pull the video and take a closer look frame by frame. It's unfortunate I only get access to the crappy YT compressed versions but its better than nothing ... Will post findings.

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    ,,, but near the camera dose not account, allow for the twist and upwards angle and speed, or maybe it still dose

    ...
    Insects can fly like that though very easily, I don't yet see what you are referring to but, I'll take a look!
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    Unfortunately, the quality isn't good enough to discern much from what you can see on the initial video, which is unfortunate. I still think it is a Cicada or other large insect (maybe dragonfly, giant water bug, large hornet / bee, etc)

    Here's a few things: I found one frame where the object is visible in front of the clouds, this is the last frame before it emerges against the blue sky, in HD on the original video if you have a sharp eye one should be able to notice this. This means it is either in front of the cloud (white on white doesn't provide the contrast to determine this) or it has flown through the cloud.

    If we assume it went through the cloud or for those that can't see this frame and believe it is above the clouds imagine the speed it is travelling. As Whitelove pointed out, it would be supersonic, and the photo he posted showed what supersonic looks like -- this would explain the white "aura" wouldn't it? If this is true, where's the sonic boom? If it is above the clouds, the object is huge and the sonic boom it would produce would be extremely audible; there is audio on the recording and no sonic boom to be heard anywhere.

    This means two things, first, there are no objects nearby of any size exceeding the speed of sound, and that also means the vapour "aura" around it is not a vapour "aura", as you would need to exceed the speed of sound to get that effect. So due to a complete lack of sonic boom, there is no high speed object and what appears to be a vapour aura is something else.

    Secondly, the object "grows" in its movement from right to left quite a lot. If this object were distant, it would have to actually be physically growing for it to appear this way at the focal length that the camera is recording on (I'm well versed and practiced in photography and videography). However if the object was small, let's say a few inches across and 10-15 feet in the air, the object would appear to grow due to perspective at the focal length the camera is at. In fact, the object actually starts off almost invisible and ends up quite large by the time it leaves the frame. This is expected results of a small object flying past close to the camera.

    Now let's address the "aura" which can clearly be seen in the images below. What else could create this effect? Insect wings flapping at high speed being caught on camera at the appropriate shutter speed. See the flying insect image below. With the light coming from the far right (look at the shadows) the light would be refracting through the insects wings and making it appear white, or lighter in colour. All the elements are correct for this to be the case ...

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    Default Re: UFO Flies Over Andrews Airshow Thunderbirds demo *Video*

    Maybe one day I might have another sighting and actually have a camera on me

    I often think the presence of cameras (especially digital, electronic) cause the sighting not to happen, that's my experience anyways. Maybe it's not good to advertise them sometimes?

    I have seen/been very near to 2 large (Blimp sized) craft that looked very unearthly in design! but no camera Doh!

    If I could have put on line what I've seen there would be no question but then these days with faking tech who knows.
    These days who really knows what is seen/real, these days of mind-control and possible air born drug/microwaves tests
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    Default Re: UFO Flies Over Andrews Airshow Thunderbirds demo *Video*

    I've seen one of those smallish metallic-looking spheres before. It was a bit odd because the person I was with couldn't see it, yet it was fully there to me -- and understand I am naturally a bit skeptic, so I tried really hard to believe it was a small plane, ball lightning, swamp gas , etc. But it was very clearly a fast moving metallic sphere ... this was before cell phones and digital cameras though so no chance of a photo ...
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    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Unfortunately, the quality isn't good enough to discern much from what you can see on the initial video, which is unfortunate. I still think it is a Cicada or other large insect (maybe dragonfly, giant water bug, large hornet / bee, etc)

    Here's a few things: I found one frame where the object is visible in front of the clouds, this is the last frame before it emerges against the blue sky, in HD on the original video if you have a sharp eye one should be able to notice this. This means it is either in front of the cloud (white on white doesn't provide the contrast to determine this) or it has flown through the cloud.

    If we assume it went through the cloud or for those that can't see this frame and believe it is above the clouds imagine the speed it is travelling. As Whitelove pointed out, it would be supersonic, and the photo he posted showed what supersonic looks like -- this would explain the white "aura" wouldn't it? If this is true, where's the sonic boom? If it is above the clouds, the object is huge and the sonic boom it would produce would be extremely audible; there is audio on the recording and no sonic boom to be heard anywhere.

    This means two things, first, there are no objects nearby of any size exceeding the speed of sound, and that also means the vapour "aura" around it is not a vapour "aura", as you would need to exceed the speed of sound to get that effect. So due to a complete lack of sonic boom, there is no high speed object and what appears to be a vapour aura is something else.

    Secondly, the object "grows" in its movement from right to left quite a lot. If this object were distant, it would have to actually be physically growing for it to appear this way at the focal length that the camera is recording on (I'm well versed and practiced in photography and videography). However if the object was small, let's say a few inches across and 10-15 feet in the air, the object would appear to grow due to perspective at the focal length the camera is at. In fact, the object actually starts off almost invisible and ends up quite large by the time it leaves the frame. This is expected results of a small object flying past close to the camera.

    Now let's address the "aura" which can clearly be seen in the images below. What else could create this effect? Insect wings flapping at high speed being caught on camera at the appropriate shutter speed. See the flying insect image below. With the light coming from the far right (look at the shadows) the light would be refracting through the insects wings and making it appear white, or lighter in colour. All the elements are correct for this to be the case ...

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    Cicadas are not as large as two volkswagen beetles, and they dont fly ABOVE clouds.

    When I see one that large, I will run...

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