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    Hi, Everyone:

    When looking through some archives this morning searching for something else, I stumbled on some fascinating details of a Mars witness that no-one has ever heard of. Believe it or not, I'd quite forgotten about it.

    He'd been referred to us by friend and researcher Bill Hamilton in September 2007, who had extensive correspondence with him (and even an audio interview, which I do not have). There's a lot of detail. Kerry and I had tried to contact him, but failed. Things were so hectic in Camelot days that this was one thing we never took further. I will try to contact him again.

    The information has never been published. I'll redact his personal details (I have his full name, address, e-mail, phone number, wife's and brother's names, and even his ham radio call sign). Everything else will be verbatim. I'll call him RDW.

    Here's what I heard from Bill Hamilton, on 26 September, 2007:

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    Bill,


    As you know I interviewed many interesting whistle blowers over the last 25 years or so.

    One of them was _________ [name given: 'RDW' from now on in this post] who I've lost contact with. He worked as a pilot and engineer in reverse-engineered craft. One of these he flew to the moon and another he flew to Mars in 96 hours to a manned base underground.

    I have a taped
    recording of his description. At the time I knew it was an extraordinary and unprovable claim and I told few about this.

    RDW is a brilliant, prolific very intense and hard working physicist with unusual focus and insight. He received his doctorate in 1976 in theoretical physics following his receiving his BS in aerospace engineering in 1973 and was requested to join the Air Force where he continued his studies along with his special and highly classified assignments.

    He worked for the US Air Force Systems Command, Aeronautical Engineering Division (Wright-Patterson AFB, OH) for 7 years and then after resigning, co-started several very successful high-technology businesses, focusing on new product design and automation in the computer industry.

    After an
    extremely successful career, he retired in 1989 to raise his 2 adopted children with his wife [name given but redacted in this post] where they live a quiet and secluded life near their children's school.

    Now, here is the rub. He knew retired General William Miller, who I talked to over the phone... and General Miller knew RDW.

    Gen. Miller worked out at Area S9 (Nellis AFB) on the black projects in the late 70s. He knows RDW, who worked out there during the same period. He said there were 5 levels underground at Groom Lake - that is where most of the "stuff" is kept.

    He said he heard about 90% has been moved to Australia since the UFO buffs started going out there. Also knew
    Bill Uhouse who worked on the flying saucer simulators.

    He said that all projects were so compartmentalized that all of them only had pieces of the puzzle. Believes he and others are dying of radiation-induced tumors (perhaps ELF). Said the military-industrial-intelligence complex is more powerful than our representative government.

    A government outside of the
    government was spun out during the Nixon-era, but he believes he started with Ike. Also J. Edgar Hoover was a king-pin. All clearances given by FBI.

    He joked about a clearance known as TOD (Threat of Death). Knows they have been able to shift the frequency of time. There is a covert space program.

    I mentioned that a Colonel Miller (no relation) said we had a base on the moon. He has heard this, but has no first-hand knowledge. (from my UFOGATE notes)

    Bill Hamilton
    AstroScience Research Network
    http://www.astrosciences.info


    Bill Hamilton later wrote, on 29 December, 2007:

    Bill.


    As I have said before I have had an informant who had been to the Mars Colony and, recently, a correspondent named Ron managed to link up with him in the hopes of getting more info, but the informant is again hard to reach. RDW worked on reverse engineering of advanced propulsion systems. He is an Aerospace Engineer and physicist. He won't answer his email.

    Maybe you could give it a go and try to persuade him to do a video interview for posterity. Here is the latest contact info I have for him:
    [Full name, address, phone number, e-mail, brother's name and phone number given — and from that I (Bill Ryan) was able to look up in public records, verify the details, and even find his ham radio call sign.]

    Bill Hamilton
    AstroScience Research Network
    http://www.astrosciences.info


    I wrote the following letter, after an e-mail was not returned, and his phone was not answered. But we never heard from him.


    Dear __________ ,

    We have been given your contact details by our good friend Bill Hamilton, who has told us a little about your testimony to him that you know a good deal from personal experience about the present-time Earth-Mars connection. (And that may be a euphemism indeed!)

    If you have not heard of us and our work, please take a moment to visit www.projectcamelot.org. We publish in-depth interviews with credible whistleblowers (one or two of them anonymous or otherwise fully disguised if requested) and make them freely available on the internet. We are widely respected and pretty well-connected in the UFO community. Our interviewees have included Bill Hamilton, Bill Holden, Jim Sparks, Dan Sherman, Dan Burisch, Bob Dean, Clifford Stone, David Wilcock, Richard Hoagland and quite a few others, a couple of whom have requested full anonymity.

    One source, ‘Henry Deacon’ (a pseudonym) – a very talented physicist and electronics specialist who has worked in black projects for many years in a variety of locations – has himself spent time on Mars and presents a detailed, credible story. See www.projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist_4.html for details.

    In essence, Henry traveled to the Mars colony on several occasions (the largest one, which he states has a population of 670,000, thought the numbers have apparently waxed and waned over time) – using what he described as ‘jumproom’ technology.

    He explained that a ‘jumproom’ is a device like an elevator. One enters a small room, the metal doors close, the doors open again, and “you walk out into a different place”. As he said, you can even go to Mars for lunch.

    He knew of the alternative space program but he always ‘jumped’ there rather than traveling in a physical craft. Interestingly, he was adamant that the alternative space program must not be stopped as he firmly believed that its intentions were beneficial, whatever the methods used to maintain secrecy. He was adamant that there was just too much at stake and the continuation of the program must not be jeopardized.

    We understand and genuinely sympathize with this, but also believe that the human race has a right to know its situation, the threats that face it, the problems and solutions, our friends and foes, our history and possible destiny. Because our commitment is to the truth, and to be responsible about communicating that, this is why we have taken the liberty of contacting you directly.

    If you would like to meet or otherwise communicate in any way, we would be happy to do this under any conditions of confidentiality you might stipulate. We never publish personal details (or personal testimony) without a full clearance from the witness concerned.

    If you have any information that you might consider might beneficially be made public, there are a variety of ways this might be done – ranging from an anonymous, sanitized e-mail Q and A interview on the one hand to an on-camera interview on the other (with or without audio or video disguise). Other possibilities are to do a genuine interview and then transcribe it and destroy (or let you have) the original tapes. We could essentially do this in whatever way you wished.

    We’re based in LA, but are happy to travel to ______ …or could meet anywhere else you specify.

    With our warmest regards to you,

    Bill and Kerry
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    Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy
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    Guess what ? The Anglo Saxon mission and Jump room to Mars are the two most
    camelot/Avalon interviews I have watched over to date. So I am going to play it
    again now....


    JUMPROOM TO MARS

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    Yes. A 'Jumproom' was MY name for it (which prompted Henry to nod in agreement at the term, when I came up with it). It was never formally used on the 'inside', though Andy Basiago has adopted the term and often refers to it in his presentations.

    Later, Henry stated (to Kerry, myself and also to David Wilcock) that it's actually called 'The Corridor'.

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    There's another story I should tell (and a contact I should try to pick up again). One time in 2007/2008 (I would need to look it up, but I have it all archived) Kerry and I both had flu, and were also on the road. It was a tough few weeks.

    After that hectic period was all over, I was searching for something in my e-mails, and saw to my horror that there was an e-mail I'd missed.

    It was from someone who was ASKING to be interviewed, who had been recommended for the Nobel Prize in Physics, had worked with Majestic on antigravity, and knew all about the Moon Bases. He said that Project Horizon was fully operational.

    I wrote back to him immediately, but he, too, never replied, We'd missed him. He'd been willing to go on video.

    My guess was that his e-mail to us had been intercepted and he'd been ordered not to talk. One has to act fast.

    These people do exist, and the programs do exist. But they are NOT allowed to talk.

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    Quote Kerry and I both had flu, and were also on the road. It was a tough few weeks.
    I can remember Henry Deacon saying he used vit, D3 as he did not go outside
    a great deal and it helped prevent colds and flew. I do take them from time
    to time and will do more during the winter months.

    I know these are not new vids but they do give a lot of the basic information that
    Bill and Kerry discovered in the early days, about Mars and other related topics.
    Just in case new members or viewers have not seen them and definitely worth a
    recap if you have not watched them lately......


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    Henry Deacon at Zurich Conference, A New World, if you can take it


    Introduction by Bill Ryan of Henry Deacon to the public during a talk from Brian
    O´Leary on alternative sources of energy such as Cold Fusion and the Casamir Force.

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    Gabriele Stähler on Vitamin D3, with Bill Ryan : a Project Camelot interview
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH1rB-Ya2UQ

    ================================================== ==

    This is a bit 'showbizzy' like Ancient Aliens , Alien Hunters or Jess Ventura but
    fun..LOL and is a shame it was not commissioned.

    SHADOW OPERATIONS : PROJECT CAMELOT TV PILOT 2009



    Published on 31 Mar 2015

    This video has gone viral in the last few years. I am posting it here on the Camelot
    Channel where it belongs. This was the pilot for our TV series that was never made.

    Behind the scenes info on what really happened on the making of our PILOT:
    SHADOW OPERATIONS: THE MARS PROJECT...
    is available here: http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/...
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    Bob Dean e Henry Deacon 6 Disclosure Project em Barcelona



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    Uploaded on 29 Dec 2010


    Project Camelot was invited to the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit
    July 23-26th 2009. During our time there we filmed a Project
    Camelot Futuretalk with Henry Deacon, Alfred Webre and Bob Dean.




    Uploaded on 29 Dec 2010

    Project Camelot was invited to the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit July 23-26th
    2009. During our time there we filmed a Project Camelot Futuretalk with
    Henry Deacon, Alfred Webre and Bob Dean.

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    Bill, I seriously wonder if those whistle-blowers who haven't answered met with an accident. If you know what I mean. Why do some get eliminated, while others are ignored?
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    Quote I stumbled on some fascinating details of a Mars witness that no-one has ever heard of. Believe it or not, I'd quite forgotten about it.
    Very glad you stumbled on Bill

    'The Jump-Room' is a great name Bill, in relation to the subject of Mars and secrete space tech it's quite an iconic naming
    but
    'The Corridor'
    as an official name is very intriguing and maybe enlightening as to the experience of using it! Travelling along it Hmm!

    Reading your full post now.
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Yes. A 'Jumproom' was MY name for it (which prompted Henry to nod in agreement at the term, when I came up with it). It was never formally used on the 'inside', though Andy Basiago has adopted the term and often refers to it in his presentations.

    Later, Henry stated (to Kerry, myself and also to David Wilcock) that it's actually called 'The Corridor'.

    The corridor, as it would be like, in my quick estimation.. a paired set of human sized yellowbooks, (cube) that one steps into, and is, er, moved...to the other location. It is probably disorienting. It could even, in probability (pun intended) move to an alternate universe, IMO, if properly paired for that aspect.
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    Bill, I seriously wonder if those whistle-blowers who haven't answered met with an accident. If you know what I mean. Why do some get eliminated, while others are ignored?
    I think (but do not know) that some were warned never to talk at an earlier stage — before they were contacted by any researcher — and others are contacted at the time, warning them not to respond. I don't think they're 'disappeared', as long as they're obedient, as it were, and stay quiet, as per their Non-Disclosure Agreement.

    Regarding why some are killed and others are just warned (and this seems to be the case)... my guess is that the decisions are compartmentalized: i.e. made by different agencies or different project heads. And some are more vindictive (or, maybe, simply more 'old school') than others.

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    Yes. A 'Jumproom' was MY name for it (which prompted Henry to nod in agreement at the term, when I came up with it). It was never formally used on the 'inside', though Andy Basiago has adopted the term and often refers to it in his presentations.

    Later, Henry stated (to Kerry, myself and also to David Wilcock) that it's actually called 'The Corridor'.

    The corridor, as it would be like, in my quick estimation.. a paired set of human sized yellowbooks, (cube) that one steps into, and is, er, moved...to the other location. It is probably disorienting. It could even, in probability (pun intended) move to an alternate universe, IMO, if properly paired for that aspect.
    Mr eric Dollard ion his vid 'The truth about Electricity' states that the equations of some scientists/mathematicians all the way back in the (Think it was 1930's) looked like, if developed properly could lead to a 'jump Room, jump chair, corridor'.
    It was concerning Pulse-Electricity deceives, where by standing under one deceive you simultaneously stood under 2 devices at the same time (2 places at once) Leave the desired device (Destination) on and that is where you would be, totally physically!
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    Mr Eric Dollard in his vid 'The truth about Electricity' states that the equations of some scientists/mathematicians all the way back in the (Think it was 1930's) looked like, if developed properly could lead to a 'jump Room, jump chair, corridor'.
    It was concerning Pulse-Electricity deceives, where by standing under one deceive you simultaneously stood under 2 devices at the same time (2 places at once) Leave the desired device (Destination) on and that is where you would be, totally physically!
    Yes. Ben Rich, the former head of the Lockheed Skunk Works, said shortly before he died:
    "We now know how to travel to the stars, and it doesn’t take a lifetime to do it. There was an error in the equations, and we found it.”

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    Bassagio also stated Barack Obama was also part of jump room program through his maternal Grandfather.

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    While I would say that there are grounds for believing that there are three small human bases on Mars, I find it difficult to accept that there is a population of upwards of 600,000. A total Mars base population of say 100 or 200 would be more likely, with 1,000 to 2,000 being the upper limit. The strain of the Earth's economy and resources to maintain such would be enormous, even if one would be utilizing technology left over from previous civilization/s. I think that there is a serious case for an econometric study here. Another point, some anthropologists would argue that human nature being what it is, if a human community goes over a certain population mark say 100, usually factions start to develop. If so, matters would have taken their natural course of action and some factions would have attempted to contact Earth independently of official control.
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    While I would say that there are grounds for believing that there are three small human bases on Mars, I find it difficult to accept that there is a population of upwards of 600,000. A total Mars base population of say 100 or 200 hundred would be more likely, with 1,000 to 2,000 being the upper limit. The strain of the Earth's economy and resources to maintain such would be enormous, even if one would be utilizing technology left over from previous civilization/s. I think that there is a serious case for an econometric study here. Another point, some anthropologists would argue that human nature being what it is, if a human community goes over a certain population mark say 100, usually factions start to develop. If so, matters would have taken their natural course of action and some factions would have attempted to contact Earth independently of official control.
    Hi MalteseKnight, you wrote
    'the strain of the Earth's economy and resources to maintain such would be enormous, even if one would be utilizing technology left over from previous civilization/s.'

    We have absolutely no idea as to the capabilities of any possible Alien tech that could be being used!
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    Bassagio also stated Barack Obama was also part of jump room program through his maternal Grandfather.
    Yes. I consider this absurd. I referenced that here, when discussing The Ruiner's claim that he had trained Vladimir Putin, when The Ruiner (Shane) was aged 13.


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    While I would say that there are grounds for believing that there are three small human bases on Mars, I find it difficult to accept that there is a population of upwards of 600,000. A total Mars base population of say 100 or 200 would be more likely, with 1,000 to 2,000 being the upper limit.
    Yes, it's a huge number! But Henry said that only a proportion of those were Earth-human.

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    Thanks Bill for this! The story appeared truthful and it's great to have these kinds of puzzle pieces to work with.

    One thing that got my attention was how both of these guys had probably done quite extensive work out at S9 for many years at a probably rather high clearance level, yet both of them only knew fractions and could not really put together the bigger picture.

    It's quite scary that people at this level, knowing what they know (e.g. that underground bases exist on Mars etc.), still have no clue on what's really going on. This in combination with the lost 2.3 trillion USD tells us that the force that is deceiving the planet runs something incredibly vast and incredibly hidden.

    Every day now I am thinking more and more that this group of international elite might be slaves that operate under foreign unearthly control to carry out some kind of dark agenda for some dark race, that there is some kind of spiritual battle playing out where the dark forces represent this military industrial intelligence complex, that is carrying out its missions through deception, secrets, lies, murder, sacrifices and other cruel stuff. There has to be a very dynamite reason for why a force wants to compartmentalize down to this level. And of course this is beyond the control of the governments, I am quite convinced of that. Keeping the government out of awareness is as easy as not to document a clearance level, not to reveal its operations facilities/locations/coordinates, not to reveal who is working on it etc. We have to by default assume someone at some point took that route. That 2.3 trillion USD funneled untracable money could be the best evidence of that - it went into the black world, but nobody has an answer to exactly where it went. And with that amount of money you can do a lot...
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    Thanks Bill for this! The story appeared truthful and it's great to have these kinds of puzzle pieces to work with.

    One thing that got my attention was how both of these guys had probably done quite extensive work out at S9 for many years at a probably rather high clearance level, yet both of them only knew fractions and could not really put together the bigger picture.
    Yes: there's an important point here. No-one knows everything. Their superiors make absolutely sure of that.

    That alone discredits Corey Goode's many stories about just about everything one can imagine. No-one would have that clearance, not even MJ-1, the Head of Majestic.

    Shane (The Ruiner)'s situation is different, but contains parallels. When Charles initially contacted me and was leveling with me about what he knew, before he was 'taken back' a few months later, he was at pains to stress that he had really only just overheard this and that, and was not even interested personally in some of the information and therefore had not retained it. So his caveat right at the front was that what he could report was not in ANY way complete. He often simply did not know stuff when I asked him.

    Whistleblowers have come out of deep silos, where they can see what's around them but not a lot else. I talked personally with a physicist who had worked at Bell Labs on exotic technology. When walking from one room to another, he would have to wear special goggles that blurred his vision apart from a couple of feet around him, enough to not bump into things, and be able to card-swipe and open doors. He walked on painted 'tramway' lines on the floor. (Interestingly, that protocol was later independently confirmed by controversial witness Dan Burisch.)

    Moral of the story here? People are NOT meant to see ANYTHING they're not personally involved in... in case they talk later.

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    I'm sceptical about the real anonymity offered by Audio ( and probably video ) disguising. My guess is that some of those people you've offered it to know enough to know that it's not reliable. Plus, as you say, intercepts would quickly put the bad boys on their trail.

    I've experimented with re processing disguised voice interviews I've found on Youtube and been quite successful at returning them to approximately normal voices again. I've got no doubt that the governments can easily do this. I'm therefore quite sure a potential whistleblower with the sort of education and experience they'd have, would also not only turn their nose up at using that method, but actually wonder how smart the guy making the offer could really be, to have suggested it in the first place. That's not a great dig at you Bill, most of us ordinary people are slow to catch onto such weaknesses in our plans even though the intended interviewee will spot it in a heart beat.
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    I'm sceptical about the real anonymity offered by Audio ( and probably video ) disguising. My guess is that some of those people you've offered it to know enough to know that it's not reliable.
    No, audio disguising isn't reliable. A filtered voice can be 'unfiltered' and restored to normal, with a bit of clever wizardry that most good audio engineers would know. (A blurred video could NOT be unblurred, though, after it was rendered and exported.)

    Update on the RDW info on post #1: I let Kerry know straight away, and she has just replied:


    Hi Bill,

    Good catch... I sent Bill Hamilton an email letting him know you want to get in touch.

    I do remember the name… didn’t remember the whole details.

    Let me know what happens. I would love to interview RDW if you find him.

    Best wishes,

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