Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.

[Ernie Nemeth]

What is the next step: stop worrying about ego, stop worrying altogether. Simply be in the moment. And try to reintegrate personal reality to include everything in the universe: for that is your true self. IMO, of course.

[greybeard]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
What is the next step: stop worrying about ego, stop worrying altogether. Simply be in the moment. And try to reintegrate personal reality to include everything in the universe: for that is your true self. IMO, of course.

Agree Ernie
You did the spade work first to get the weeds out of your spiritual garden.
Kundalini awakened within you and that is a great blessing and "curse"

Nothing is the same after that happens.
My late Guru Dr Goels said that when K awakens you are in the taxi being driven home by Shakti the Female aspect of God.
Relationships dissolve-- security thats a laugh.
You have what you need coming effortlessly to you.
Wants and expectation disapears.
Various spiritual powers arrive to be released-let go of-- the ego loves to think it is special.
There is less and less of a person left.
You become aware of what is left of the personality as almost a separate entity.

Link to a book about Kundalini
India is the cradle of spirituality, we in the West endeavor to understand in our own way and thats valid too.


http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/details/IDK142/

Namaste

[greybeard]

from Dr. Hawkins’s newest book, “Dissolving the Ego, Realizing the Self”


Here are a few inspiring quotes from the book:

“There is absolutely nothing in ordinary human experience to compare with the joy of the Presence of the Love of God.

No sacrifice is too great, nor effort too much, in order to realize that Presence.”

--- “If, in the exact passing moment of each instant, there is a complete willingness to totally surrender to it, one can suddenly transcend the ego in a flash. And then the way opens for Realization, wherein the Light of God as Self reveals the Source of all existence and Reality.”

--- “If the ego has neither past, present, nor future to focus on, it falls silent and is replaced by the silence of the Presence. Thus, the way to sudden enlightenment is available at all times.
It occurs naturally when the fascination with the story of the ‘me’ of the past, present or future is relinquished.
The illusion of ‘now’ is replaced by the reality of ‘Always’.”



Namaste

[greybeard]

For Atheists

You never know the day nor the hour.

Laughing

We can get too serious.
Best wishes Chris

An atheist was walking through the woods.

'What majestic trees!
'What powerful rivers !
'What beautiful animals!
He said to himself.

As he was walking alongside the river, he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him.

He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly bear charge towards him.

He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder & saw that the bear was closing in on him..

He looked over his shoulder again, & the bear was even closer.

He tripped & fell on the ground.

He rolled over to pick himself up but saw that the bear was right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw & raising his right paw to strike him.

At that instant the Atheist cried out,
'Oh my God!'

Time stopped.
The bear froze.
The forest was silent.

As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky.

'You deny my existence for all these years, teach others I don't exist and even credit creation to cosmic accident.
'Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament?

Am I to count you as a believer?'

The atheist looked directly into the light, 'It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask you to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps you could make the bear a Christian'?

'Very well,' said the voice.

The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed.. And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head and spoke:



'Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen'.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

LMAFAO !!! Priceless hahahaha !

[Ernie Nemeth]

Good One!

Thanks Chris.

[truthseekerdan]

My dear friends and more... Love is everything. Ego alone is nothing. Love has no conditions. Ego is diluted with conditions. No one who has love wants an unchecked ego for an unchecked ego represents delusion. If truth is complete, then untruth cannot exist and reality cannot be unreal. As long as we have fear, we cannot love. As long as we have anger, we cannot love. As long as we have a self-seeking inflated ego, we cannot love. To receive love, we must first give love. To learn to love others, we must first accept and love our self. The only thing that can separate us from love is untruth (illusion). The only thing that can separate us from untruth is our self.

Much Love

[truthseekerdan]

The longer an inflated ego keeps us on the hunt for love, the longer it stops us from finding love. The longer the ego stops us from finding love, the more frustrated we become with the world. The more frustrated we become with the world, the more judgmental we become. The more judgmental we become, the further away we are from love. An inflated ego cannot love for it does not know how to love. An inflated ego leads us to believe we are searching for love only because it is afraid we will realize that love can only be found when the ego is not in control.

Love always

[sirac]

i see no purpose for mass regulation in any direction (either ego on or off)
i think this is one of those things that should be actively regulated.
one has to be able to move freely.
i just think and agree that the momental () ego strain when it should no-longer be on or active (i.e. when we act in a unified consciousness) is harmful as you describe.

u describe an exhausion model in your first post
& your second post is definitely the maxim of the mode state we should be in when 'unified'in-love''integrating'
but it cannot be said that there will always be those to integrate with.
much of the path is solitary, and within that we stand the danger of stagnating unless we stimulated by our ego aims. (with greater understanding of ego aims..mine are more spiritual now then they were initially)

[greybeard]

In India, elephants are used for manual labor. When an elephant is small and weighs approximately 200 pounds, it is securely tied with a heavy-duty rope. In between 'jobs' the elephant tries to break through its limitation. The calf whines, tugs, and even tries to chew through the rope, but it is unable to break free.

Finally, the elephant gives up its will and accepts his circumstances. The elephant believes there is absolutely no chance to free himself and overcome his limitation. In doing so, he misses out on his defining moment.

A defining moment is the exact moment one adopts or accepts a new belief that drastically transforms their life. They accept this new belief as a new truth, regardless if it is true or not. Because the brain accepts repetition of thought and deduction as 'the truth,' the rope reigns sovereign not only in the calf's immediate environment, but in his mind as well.

With this belief deeply embedded in the elephant's mind, his handler came up with an ingenious idea to permanently disempower him. He realized all that was needed was to tie the four ton animal up with extremely small ropes and he would remain tied. You see in the elephant's mind, any size rope would keep him securely confined.

Don't act like an elephant. Size up and break through the confining ropes in your mind. When you're faced with change, change your perspective. When you're overwhelmed with something new; change your view. Use affirmations, to eradicate limitations and nothing will be impossible for you!

The ego is but a small rope that imprisons us.
It can however severely limit us.
Such is the mind.
Chris

[sirac]

Chris!
you've again hit me with something i can't answer. (i wonder where your comparitive reg points are for/from mine),
i see my rope in how i define the solitary path. i should just describe...not implement a prophecy that affects my path

[greybeard]

Jesus said
"Even the wisest of my disciples enter the Kingdom of Heaven by faith alone"

Intellect - rationale will only take one so far.

Ramana said, "Use a thorn to remove the thorn then throw both away."

So the mind is used to remove the ego then both are dispensed with.

Thinking is downright dangeous--- but dont quote me Laughing.

"I investigated various philosophies and religious teachings but cheerfulness kept breaking through".
Leonard Cohen

Chris

[truthseekerdan]

Ego likes spirituality too... Especially the 'one(s) that comes with rules and regulations'. A dominant ego is without conscience when it comes to telling us what we need. It urges us repeatedly to do and get things but in the end, whatever we do or get, it will demand more. A dominant ego seeks its own victory and with it separation. The salvation of a human being is through love and in love. Inner balance can only be realized when a person knows freedom and understands love, a love that embraces and transforms all experiences equally and unconditionally.

There are no degrees or levels to love. We love or we do not love. There are no exceptions to love. We choose love or we do not choose love. We must love ourselves before we can love others. The more our love reaches out, the more our human being expands. The more people we honestly love, the more we realize we are part of a unified consciousness. A mind that sees a world without love sees a world divided. As long as we perceive the world as divided, we are in conflict. When we want only love we will see nothing but love. The only thing we are able to give to anyone is love. The only thing we can receive from anyone is love. If we believe we have received anything else, it is because we thought we had the ability to give something else. We alone make the decision on what we give and on what we receive, real or unreal, of value, without value, just or unjust, meaningful or meaningless.


Much Love to All

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Jesus said
"Even the wisest of my disciples enter the Kingdom of Heaven by faith alone"

Jesus said: “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”

"You'll know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free."

Love is the answer

[greybeard]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Jesus said
"Even the wisest of my disciples enter the Kingdom of Heaven by faith alone"

Jesus said: “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”

"You'll know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free."

Love is the answer

Thanks Dan for both posts.
Sometimes my quotes are essence rather than accurate.
The full version is powerful
thanks

Chris

[truthseekerdan]

Hi Chris, my post was in regards to the actual "essence" which is Divine Unconditional Love, and that everything else is just detail which might not help if the previous condition is not 'satisfied'. Most of us know that scriptures texts (not only the Bible) are actually poorly translated due to language barriers, and or edited to confuse, etc. Many will interpret these verses not with the meaning that they originally conveyed, therefore will not be applied in one's life accurately. The only true value anything can have is the value given to it through love.

We may not see love but we know its effects. By perceiving what love can do, we recognize that it does exist. By knowing that it does exist, we can understand its meaning. By knowing the meaning of love, we are enabled. By being enabled by love, we become love. Love is the one thing that cannot be divided by an inflated ego because of its integrity. Where there is integrity, there is completeness. Where there is completeness, there is wholeness. Where there is wholeness, there is reality. When something is real, it is truth.


Namaste

[greybeard]

There is a middle path where left brain and right brain meet.
There is a way for heart and mind to work in balance it is called compassion.
The heart goes out to another regardless of their actions, there is however discernment which comes from the third eye.
You will note the third eye is in the center of the forehead it balances the left and the right, the upper and the lower.
It is biased toward the upper it is not in the middle of the body it is near the crown.

No secret I am biased towards higher truth because that is eternal.
When the body drops away so does all the truth of this life except for one thing.
How did I treat my seeming fellow man?
Jesus taught Love God and Love thy fellow man--- without exception.
Even those who crucified him he loved.
Surely we can attempt to do the same.

Chris

[sirac]

Posted by greybeard (here)
There is a middle path where left brain and right brain meet.
There is a way for heart and mind to work in balance it is called compassion.
The heart goes out to another regardless of their actions, there is however discernment which comes from the third eye.
You will note the third eye is in the center of the forehead it balances the left and the right, the upper and the lower.
It is biased toward the upper it is not in the middle of the body it is near the crown.
Chris

You mentioned earlier that thinking can be dangerous.
in thinking there are always two streams which are antipode to each other....i.e. they abrogate each other...
or merely within thinking regulatory terms we know not to go 'all full' in 'one stream'...... or combine the approaches as the situation justifies.
the third eye as you put it,
would similarily in my system be described as the subconscious part of the conscious part (typically they say, conscious is to unconsciousness as ice-berg seen portion is to actual portion; within this context to...the stream or 2 streams are laid-out by the conscious aspect [in drawing on..])
or by another system {when approximating the 3rd eye}, the Mayan Dreamspell system, a leader function {over the base function, which is responsible for the conscious branching of the 2 streams}.

i think the spirit reaches into many dimensions, and that the proper place of the mind is only within a certain plain,....
if the combined system works well....the mind falls silent every now and then, to be placed on another plain that the spirit would have it at

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by greybeard (here)
There is a middle path where left brain and right brain meet.
There is a way for heart and mind to work in balance it is called compassion.
The heart goes out to another regardless of their actions, there is however discernment which comes from the third eye.
You will note the third eye is in the center of the forehead it balances the left and the right, the upper and the lower.
It is biased toward the upper it is not in the middle of the body it is near the crown.

No secret I am biased towards higher truth because that is eternal.
When the body drops away so does all the truth of this life except for one thing.
How did I treat my seeming fellow man?
Jesus taught Love God and Love thy fellow man--- without exception.
Even those who crucified him he loved.
Surely we can attempt to do the same.

Chris

Compassion is empowerment to help others discover a community of hope, forgiveness and love. If we are able to enter the mind and heart of another, to share their sorrow, to know them from within, we are able to manifest love not only for others but also in our self. Once compassion is active, all barriers and their damaging effects begin to vanish, leaving a sense of real identity and satisfaction within the embrace of love for all parties involved.

Much Love

[greybeard]

Marcel Messing
One of the best interviews I have ever watched.
It covers it all--- conspiracy -- past-- future.
Enlightenment.

Namaste

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Iwys0gDTqrI