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    Quote ......you're going to have to learn how you can go through a looking glass into another kind of perception, where you have that sense of being united to all things. And suddenly, you understand everything.
    I have never seen this movie in it's entirety, looks intriguing. I've seen this clip before but it is, IMO, one of the ones worth being reminded of and watched multiple times. Clip like this are like 'spiritual easter eggs' found within various works of art.

    I have experienced something much like what is described above. Additionally, a "sense of being united to all things" is like an inner circle of perception though not the center.
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    "Through Dzogchen we can really understand what God is and we don’t have to worry if there is a God or not. God always exists as our real nature, the base, for everybody"

    Chögyal Namkhai Norbu

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    Everything comes from nowhere.......... and ............. goes nowhere.


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    What comes, will go.
    What is found, will be lost again.
    But what you are is
    beyond coming and going
    and beyond description.

    You are It.

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    Quote Posted by Guish (here)


    What comes, will go.
    What is found, will be lost again.
    But what you are is
    beyond coming and going
    and beyond description.

    You are It.

    ~Rumi~
    Beautiful quote.uplifting and to me so true.

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    The Essential Nature of Mind ~

    "Buddhist teachings make a distinction between what is called Big Mind, or Natural Mind, and "small mind," or ordinary, deluded mind. Small mind, or deluded mind, is the buzzing, unpredictable, frequently out-of-control ordinary mind.

    This is our finite mind, our limited conceptual mind; our ordinary, rational, discursive, thinking mind. The deluded mind has so many impulses and needs; it wants so many things. It's frequently confused; it's subject to mood swings; it's restless. It gets angry; it gets depressed; it becomes hyper.

    Some ancient traditional texts refer to this small mind as "monkey mind," where it is pictured as a chaotic little monkey jumping from tree to tree, looking for satisfaction in all the wrong places.

    What is meant by Big Mind is the essential nature of mind itself. This is what we call Buddha-nature, or natural mind. This is our true nature - the pure boundless awareness that is at the heart, and part, of us all. The Buddha described it as still, clear, lucid, empty, profound, simple (uncomplicated), and at peace.

    It's not really what we usually think of as our mind at all. It is the luminous, most fundamental clear light nature of our ground of being. This is Rigpa, the heart of enlightenment.

    Dzogchen teaches that all we have to do to become enlightened is to recognize and rest in this natural state of mind. In Zen they call this original mind. This is raw, naked awareness, not something we've learned or fabricated.

    This is the Buddha within - the perfect presence that we can all rely on. Waking up to this natural mind, this Buddha-nature, is what meditation is all about."

    ~ Lama Surya Das ~
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    The Essential Nature of Mind ~

    "Buddhist teachings make a distinction between what is called Big Mind, or Natural Mind, and "small mind," or ordinary, deluded mind. Small mind, or deluded mind, is the buzzing, unpredictable, frequently out-of-control ordinary mind.

    This is our finite mind, our limited conceptual mind; our ordinary, rational, discursive, thinking mind. The deluded mind has so many impulses and needs; it wants so many things. It's frequently confused; it's subject to mood swings; it's restless. It gets angry; it gets depressed; it becomes hyper.

    Some ancient traditional texts refer to this small mind as "monkey mind," where it is pictured as a chaotic little monkey jumping from tree to tree, looking for satisfaction in all the wrong places.

    What is meant by Big Mind is the essential nature of mind itself. This is what we call Buddha-nature, or natural mind. This is our true nature - the pure boundless awareness that is at the heart, and part, of us all. The Buddha described it as still, clear, lucid, empty, profound, simple (uncomplicated), and at peace.

    It's not really what we usually think of as our mind at all. It is the luminous, most fundamental clear light nature of our ground of being. This is Rigpa, the heart of enlightenment.

    Dzogchen teaches that all we have to do to become enlightened is to recognize and rest in this natural state of mind. In Zen they call this original mind. This is raw, naked awareness, not something we've learned or fabricated.

    This is the Buddha within - the perfect presence that we can all rely on. Waking up to this natural mind, this Buddha-nature, is what meditation is all about."

    ~ Lama Surya Das ~
    Awakening the Buddha Within

    Oh, here's something from a Facebook group I regularly read and I "thought" you might appreciate it Guish eh ?

    Quote The famous Japanese master of the Soto Zen lineage, Dogen Zenji, taught that our enlightened Buddha Mind was not to be considered as separate and apart from our karmic mind; both temporally as well as spatially.

    He taught an approach to meditation called "shikentaza" or just sitting. He explained that it is an error to have a dualistic practice where cause and effect like "practice and enlightenment" are dualistically sequential. He taught that "cause and effect" occupy the same moment. That means practice and fruition are exactly the same.

    He explained that we are already Buddhas and that our sitting shikentaza is simply an expression of our already existing Buddhahood; and not a means for its attainment.

    This is also the Dzogchen view. In both, our sitting practice is a non-meditation in which we just sit in aware presence without any interested engagement in the thinking activities of the mind as well as with no hint of seeking anything, including enlightenment.

    So one can sit as described and it will be observed that one's mind will effortlessly transform into a transparent wisdom state if left undisturbed free of all meddling.

    Rigpa is simply a moment when our karmic mind reveals itself as being the Buddha Mind. This happens when the empty nature of the karmic mind is recognized (prajna). When the empty nature of the Buddha Mind is not recognized it manifests itself as the karmic mind.

    Dogen stated that our enlightenment resides right within our delusion. Dzogchen teaches the same.

    [Note: Image added for some light-hearted Zen Humour ]
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    This is very true. I think the buddha nature is disturbed by thoughts but is always there.
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    Old native American saying, "When we dream ourselves into the real world and leave this world behind, we will be spirts and be ourselves."

    Quiet your mind, leave human dramas behind. Connect directly with Nature, our spiritual home.
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    A home, a place, a container, an identifier is a dream but what an amazing dream it is. Who would have thunk it?



    Going places yet never left.

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    I is unique in it's ability to shape-shift.


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    Once you realize that the road is the goal, and that you are always on the road, not to reach a goal but to enjoy its beauty and its wisdom, life ceases to be a task and becomes natural and simple. In itself an ecstasy.

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    "The Great Way is not difficult for those not attached to preferences. If you wish to know the truth, then hold to no opinions for or against anything. To set up what you like against what you dislike is the disease of the mind.

    When the fundamental nature of things is not recognized the mind's essential peace is disturbed to no avail. The Way is perfect as vast space is perfect, where nothing is lacking and nothing is in excess.

    Indeed, it is due to our grasping and rejecting that we do not know the true nature of things. Live neither in the entanglements of outer things, nor in ideas or feelings of emptiness. Be serene and at one with life and erroneous views will disappear by themselves."

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    "Treat every moment
    as your last.
    It is not preparation
    for something else.

    Where ever you are,
    you are one with the clouds
    and one with the sun
    and the stars you see.

    You are one with everything.
    That is more true than I can say,
    and more true than you can hear.”

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    This appears to be Chris's last post... If he has taken a break, I understand. If anyone has posted as to this... apologies, but I missed it.

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    Understand... Chris, I love you - you know the difference you have made for me, my fellow 'friend of Bill.'
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