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    Wavydome there is no short cut because you cant make enlightenment happen--it is down to Divine grace as in spontaneous awakening as per the silent sage video posted a while back.
    In all fairness that may be at least partly the result of many life times of spiritual work.
    The bottom line is if enlightenment does not occur in this life time then there will be another life time.

    I had a Kundalini awakening without even knowing what it was--ability to heal came with that and states of bliss--I could not make these happen. They still do from time to time.
    I have enough personal experience to validate, for me, the teachings of the Self realized.

    Krishnamurti was a large part of the Theosophical Movement --he gave up on that and became enlightened.
    I went for years--and enjoyed the teaching.

    What you are is thoughtless awareness.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Wavydome there is no short cut because [....]
    What you are is thoughtless awareness.
    Ah yes, Rob, there are different takes
    on same phrases, as for 1 example:
    I too had the Kundalini experience
    in 1968, while still inexperienced
    with all life, so young and uncoached,
    never having complete explanations,
    nor academic labels,
    of just what it was
    in that experience.

    Today i place it squarely
    in the lower emotional realm,
    (beneath the solar plexus center,
    where the Kundalini spirals
    upward, bypassing circuitry.
    So it may be interpreted,
    from works of esotericians,
    who resound my cognitions.)

    I do not demand compliance,
    do not push agreements,
    nor debate insistently.
    Instead just share how it is,
    how we differ clearly,
    on so many interpretations.

    Bo

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    We can agree to differ.
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    “...and led me to finally recognise that I was but an automaton devoid of free will in thought and action and merely responsible to the forces of the environment.” Nikola Tesla

    "The human being is a self-propelled automaton entirely under the control of external influences. Willful and predetermined though they appear, his actions are governed not from within, but from without. He is like a float tossed about by the waves of a turbulent sea". Nikola Tesla.

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    The Laying Bare of Our Essential Self


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    Scott Kiloby - 'The End Of The Spiritual Search' - Interview by Iain McNay


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    Alien Warning Message Live on TV in UK - "We Come to Warn you About your Race and your Planet"

    Southern Television was the first known victim of television hijacking. On the 26th of November 1977 at around 5:10 pm, an "alien" managed to interrupt the broadcast of the local ITV station Southern Television via the Hannington transmitter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souther... The voice overrode the UHF audio signal of the early-evening news being read by the late Ivor Mills from ITN. A speaker interrupted transmissions for six minutes and claimed to be a representative of an "Intergalactic Association". Reports of the incident vary, some calling the speaker "Gramaha" or "Vrillon" or "Gillon", others "Asteron". The voice, which was disguised and accompanied by a deep buzzing, broke into the broadcast of the local ITV station Southern Television, overriding the UHF audio signal of the early-evening news being read by Ivor Mills from ITN to warn viewers that "All your weapons of evil must be removed" and "You have but a short time to learn to live together in peace." The interruption ceased shortly after the statement had been delivered, transmissions returning to normal shortly before the end of a Looney Tunes cartoon. Later in the evening, Southern Television apologised for what it described as "a breakthrough in sound" for some viewers. ITN also reported on the incident in its own late-evening Saturday bulletin. The broadcast took over the sound only, leaving the video signal unaltered, aside from some picture distortion. Wikipedia Southern Television broadcast interruption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souther...



    Well who ever it came from overall the message is spiritual, which is why I posted it here

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    Alien Warning Message Live on TV in UK - "We Come to Warn you About your Race and your Planet"

    ...Well who ever it came from overall the message is spiritual, which is why I posted it here

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    Thanks for posting that! I had never heard about that happening. These days everything is so much more controlled. I mean they really have the media mind control down to a science. Messages rarely break through like that, whatever the source. Even though in theory everyone can have a platform on the World Wide Web, it's not the same as commandeering the living rooms of Brits in the seventies. Great message.
    "Did you exchange
    A walk on part in the war
    For a lead role in a cage?"

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    A single, indivisible reality.....Rupert Spira

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    Linda Clair 'Enlightenment is in the Body ' Interview By Renate McNayLinda is a Meditation Teacher based on ZEN practice. She is the Author of the book 'What do you want - Conversations about Enlightenment.' In this interview which is the second conscious.tv one with her Linda says that enlightenment is the beginning of a whole new way of living and although its the end of suffering and fear, there is no end to the practice as long as one is in the body. To be fully free you need to go through being grounded, so grounded that you’re able to let go of everything—even enlightenment. Stay in your body. The silence is in your body. Its not out there. Stay in your body and you’ll be surprised what happens. To really become immersed in the silence, you need to free your body - purify your body of the past. Only then will there be silence and that silence is overwhelming. www.simplemeditation.net


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    Dr David Hawkins

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    Q. What spiritual practices are practical to pursue in a busy world? Most people have jobs, families and many distractions.

    A. The conscious pursuit of spiritual goals is the result of a choice and a decision. It actually requires only willingness and the capacity to follow through. Even a simple spiritual concept is a deceptively powerful tool. The simple decision to be kind, forgiving, and compassionate to all life in all its expressions, including one's own self, is a scalpel that is capable of removing the major impediments to spiritual progress.
    With humility, one can see that the mind is limited and incapable of seeing all the circumstances surrounding any event. Out of this arises the willingness to let go of condemnation and judgment. This process results in a willingness to surrender one's experience of the world to God. It becomes apparent that the world does not really need one's personal opinions about anything at all. If one decides to take a charitable view of life's events, then alternate ways of interpreting circumstances, appearances, and other options open up. The Eye of the I, ch. 11, pg. 218-2
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    Wakefulness is what we are....Rupert Spira

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    Rupert Sheldrake - Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview

    Rupert Sheldrake, PhD is a biologist and author of more than 85 scientific papers and 12 books, including Science Set Free and Science and Spiritual Practices. He was a Fellow of Clare College, Cambridge University, a Frank Know Fellow at Harvard, and a Research Fellow of the Royal Society. From 2005-2010 the Director of the Perrott-Warrick Project for research on unexplained human and animal abilities, funded by Trinity College, Cambridge. He is a Fellow of the Institute of Noetic Sciences, Petaluma, California, and of Schumacher College in Devon, England.

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    Anita Moorjani In conversation with Michael Neill about Experiencing God

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    Eckhart Tolle (on Larry King) **FULL** interview (2018)



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    Its got a little quiet here, not so many visiting.
    Like many I don't need any more information --I know all I need to know.
    So why keep watching the videos?
    It comes down to what Ramana said about transference.
    The enlightened have an energy that lifts.
    So whatever sees you through the day.

    With love for all who visit and contribute
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Its got a little quiet here, not so many visiting.
    Like many I don't need any more information --I know all I need to know.
    So why keep watching the videos?
    It comes down to what Ramana said about transference.
    The enlightened have an energy that lifts.
    So whatever sees you through the day.

    With love for all who visit and contribute
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    I hear you. In the past I went to the workshops, read the books, watched the videos, and at some point I said: I know all I need to know, now I just have to internalize and live the knowledge. But, I quickly found out that when I stopped reading, watching, etc, I lost something.

    So now when I watch or read, it's not to gain knowledge it's more to bask in the light of those conveying and for reminders for myself.

    So keep posting what you do. Your efforts are much appreciated - and I love to look at your picture, you always look so joyful that in itself always makes me smile.

    Happy Holidays Chris.
    Blessed are the cracked, for they are the ones who let in the light!

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    Ba-ba-Ra
    You made my day.
    Everyone needs encouragement from time to time.

    Another reason that I listen to the enlightened teachers is that they are clear that the moment one commits to finding the Truth--the ego, that once thought it was going to be an enlightened separate person, now does everything to prevent this coming about.
    So every trick in the book is used too divert one from finding out that its an imposter, pretending to be a separate self
    Therefore its not all sunshine and roses.

    The energy and simplicity of the teaching keeps this one and many others dedicated to the Truth.

    Much love to you--smiling
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    There is a lot to digest and a lot too I have digested. It never ends.


    "All this is so that love can have a stage to act itself out, so that wisdom can flourish and express its divine power. Everyone must taste some identity at first and we are either going to be pulled towards upgrading identity, or discovering the source of identity.

    That is the power of this, that we are not moving from book to book, but that you recognise the main point. Just recognise that even the movement of attention is perceivable. That’s a significant thing, If you understand this, you are in the unshakeable place.

    Once you’ve found that which is yielding good fruit, stay there, merge your identity there. Don’t take any sabbatical from the truth, finish up. Let the rest of this life be lived in freedom."
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Thanks wind
    Mooji is so clear and you can feel the energy of love emanating from him.
    He is well aware of the distractions and pitfalls on the "path"
    He thought his guru Papaji was talking a load of rubbish--then it hit him--enlightenment happened.

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    Tibetan practice of TRUL KHOR | Awakening your CHAKRA'S
    The way of Chi
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    Dzogchen Yoga or Trul-Khor is the system which came down unbroken through oral transmission from Zhang-Zhung Nyen Gyu lineages. The core of the transmission engages the body, mind and spirit of the practitioner in a series of breath, sound and movement exercises, each relating to a specific element. The five elements of fire, wind, space, water and earth, are the foundation fiber of Tibetan medicine and healing; their core theory being everything that exists in this universe is made of the five elements and therefore responsible for the formation of each tissue cell. In practicing Trul khor, one will be able to identify and alleviate physical discomfort or pain, emotional and mental disturbances. These easy to perform yet powerful healing exercises can be used as a support to other meditation practices or practiced alone to clear obstacles caused by disease or strong negative emotions, and to clear, balance and harmonize one’s energy field.



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