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    Wavydome there is no short cut because you cant make enlightenment happen--it is down to Divine grace as in spontaneous awakening as per the silent sage video posted a while back.
    In all fairness that may be at least partly the result of many life times of spiritual work.
    The bottom line is if enlightenment does not occur in this life time then there will be another life time.

    I had a Kundalini awakening without even knowing what it was--ability to heal came with that and states of bliss--I could not make these happen. They still do from time to time.
    I have enough personal experience to validate, for me, the teachings of the Self realized.

    Krishnamurti was a large part of the Theosophical Movement --he gave up on that and became enlightened.
    I went for years--and enjoyed the teaching.

    What you are is thoughtless awareness.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Wavydome there is no short cut because [....]
    What you are is thoughtless awareness.
    Ah yes, Rob, there are different takes
    on same phrases, as for 1 example:
    I too had the Kundalini experience
    in 1968, while still inexperienced
    with all life, so young and uncoached,
    never having complete explanations,
    nor academic labels,
    of just what it was
    in that experience.

    Today i place it squarely
    in the lower emotional realm,
    (beneath the solar plexus center,
    where the Kundalini spirals
    upward, bypassing circuitry.
    So it may be interpreted,
    from works of esotericians,
    who resound my cognitions.)

    I do not demand compliance,
    do not push agreements,
    nor debate insistently.
    Instead just share how it is,
    how we differ clearly,
    on so many interpretations.

    Bo

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    We can agree to differ.
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    “...and led me to finally recognise that I was but an automaton devoid of free will in thought and action and merely responsible to the forces of the environment.” Nikola Tesla

    "The human being is a self-propelled automaton entirely under the control of external influences. Willful and predetermined though they appear, his actions are governed not from within, but from without. He is like a float tossed about by the waves of a turbulent sea". Nikola Tesla.

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    The Laying Bare of Our Essential Self


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    Scott Kiloby - 'The End Of The Spiritual Search' - Interview by Iain McNay


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    Alien Warning Message Live on TV in UK - "We Come to Warn you About your Race and your Planet"

    Southern Television was the first known victim of television hijacking. On the 26th of November 1977 at around 5:10 pm, an "alien" managed to interrupt the broadcast of the local ITV station Southern Television via the Hannington transmitter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souther... The voice overrode the UHF audio signal of the early-evening news being read by the late Ivor Mills from ITN. A speaker interrupted transmissions for six minutes and claimed to be a representative of an "Intergalactic Association". Reports of the incident vary, some calling the speaker "Gramaha" or "Vrillon" or "Gillon", others "Asteron". The voice, which was disguised and accompanied by a deep buzzing, broke into the broadcast of the local ITV station Southern Television, overriding the UHF audio signal of the early-evening news being read by Ivor Mills from ITN to warn viewers that "All your weapons of evil must be removed" and "You have but a short time to learn to live together in peace." The interruption ceased shortly after the statement had been delivered, transmissions returning to normal shortly before the end of a Looney Tunes cartoon. Later in the evening, Southern Television apologised for what it described as "a breakthrough in sound" for some viewers. ITN also reported on the incident in its own late-evening Saturday bulletin. The broadcast took over the sound only, leaving the video signal unaltered, aside from some picture distortion. Wikipedia Southern Television broadcast interruption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souther...



    Well who ever it came from overall the message is spiritual, which is why I posted it here

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    Alien Warning Message Live on TV in UK - "We Come to Warn you About your Race and your Planet"

    ...Well who ever it came from overall the message is spiritual, which is why I posted it here

    Chris
    Thanks for posting that! I had never heard about that happening. These days everything is so much more controlled. I mean they really have the media mind control down to a science. Messages rarely break through like that, whatever the source. Even though in theory everyone can have a platform on the World Wide Web, it's not the same as commandeering the living rooms of Brits in the seventies. Great message.
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    A single, indivisible reality.....Rupert Spira

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    Linda Clair 'Enlightenment is in the Body ' Interview By Renate McNayLinda is a Meditation Teacher based on ZEN practice. She is the Author of the book 'What do you want - Conversations about Enlightenment.' In this interview which is the second conscious.tv one with her Linda says that enlightenment is the beginning of a whole new way of living and although its the end of suffering and fear, there is no end to the practice as long as one is in the body. To be fully free you need to go through being grounded, so grounded that you’re able to let go of everything—even enlightenment. Stay in your body. The silence is in your body. Its not out there. Stay in your body and you’ll be surprised what happens. To really become immersed in the silence, you need to free your body - purify your body of the past. Only then will there be silence and that silence is overwhelming. www.simplemeditation.net


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    Dr David Hawkins

    Contemplation

    Q. What spiritual practices are practical to pursue in a busy world? Most people have jobs, families and many distractions.

    A. The conscious pursuit of spiritual goals is the result of a choice and a decision. It actually requires only willingness and the capacity to follow through. Even a simple spiritual concept is a deceptively powerful tool. The simple decision to be kind, forgiving, and compassionate to all life in all its expressions, including one's own self, is a scalpel that is capable of removing the major impediments to spiritual progress.
    With humility, one can see that the mind is limited and incapable of seeing all the circumstances surrounding any event. Out of this arises the willingness to let go of condemnation and judgment. This process results in a willingness to surrender one's experience of the world to God. It becomes apparent that the world does not really need one's personal opinions about anything at all. If one decides to take a charitable view of life's events, then alternate ways of interpreting circumstances, appearances, and other options open up. The Eye of the I, ch. 11, pg. 218-2
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    Wakefulness is what we are....Rupert Spira

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