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    Depends whom you ask. There are some who can converse directly with "Jesus" I trust those more than the bible.
    Once I met such a man and he said I would write a book.

    Been doing the ACIM lessons lately it helps to get one out of the matrix I believe, from lesson #2
    It is a joke to think that time can come to circumvent eternity. ~ACIM

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    The more something is brought to light the more commonplace it becomes and as such, what is naked is no longer.


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    When I look back on the books I have read--the spiritual teachers--some whom I have been fortunate to meet--there has been a progression of understanding.
    Yet the very first said what I now know---only God is--however I was not ready to understand the much used Oneness. (The Father and I are One) I did not get that what Jesus said applied to all--everyone.
    It is good I think to listen to various teachers --eventually it is realized there is a common denominator, no matter how it is expressed. That Thou Art.
    I could see that only God is ----but I could not accept that this must also apply to me.

    Eventually I could see that I am of the same energy as God but not such a strong voltage. Watt!!!!
    That implies separation--me and God.
    Not what the various teachers say.
    Advaita means literally "One without a second"
    The God Realized in India have been known to say "I am the totality all of it"
    If it can be accepted that only consciousness is --then that holds true.

    The Swami has for me cleared the doubts--because I was ready to accept the Truth of what I am.
    Many other teachers have said much the same but I was not ready to fully understand.
    Still work in progress but the knowledge is there.
    So repetition continues with a greater intensity--taking in the energy carried in the videos of the Swami and others.

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    i know of a place, it is the truest place i know, it is home

    it is within me and yet, beyond

    the entrance door to home is through my heart, i open it and walk through

    it is a place like no other i have known, and yet, have always known it to be, i had just forgotten how to enter, now i remember


    i cannot tell you how it feels to be home, have only tears when i recall, many tears trying to describe it

    home has no fear, hatred or greed

    there is no lack, there is no thing to control


    i believed it to be the state of well being, and yet, it is beyond all that we know of wellness

    i believed it to be the home of great healing, and yet, when i am there, there is no thing within me to heal

    i believed it to be freedom, and yet, i do not know of limitations there and thus, freedom just is

    i believed home to be a place of bliss, of joy, of great happiness, and yet, home is absent of these emotions singularily, and yet, inclusive of all collectively


    when home, i just am and it is in the simplicity of my being that i experience divine fulfillment, there is not a thing to need or desire or to think i want or hope for

    there is no thing to hope for when home just is and all is true

    home is the fulfillment of unconditional love, this i do not experience as a feeling, rather, it just is


    home is not perfection, home is truer than that

    i do not feel my self when home though i know i am a divine being of love and light

    i do not know of separation when home, i only know of oneness with all that is


    when home i do not feel empathy or compassion or goodness or good deeds for they are separation, i do not experience these the way i do in illusion

    i do not feel pain, nor is there suffering, i only know they do not exist


    i believed home to be the greatest healer and yet, when home, i do not require healing, my being just is and there is no thing to be healed


    home is to just be, neutral, in balance ... pure

    home is unconditional love known


    there is such a place, i cannot describe really what it is to enter home, to know of its peace and its calm


    i do not know why i have found the entrance, perhaps it is because i trust all that is, that i have trusted it exists, always am i welcomed


    home is absent of words, of feelings, of emotion of illusion

    home just is and it is the purest fulfillment i know


    i have asked so many times, please, let me take others by their hand and bring them home ...


    i am still awaiting an answer ...

    i wish i could bring all who i know home, and others

    it is in the wishing that i cannot do so, wishing is separation and does not align with home ...


    i am still awaiting ...

    i can only trust others will find their own way home, i hold that space for them, i believe it is all i can do in this moment, is to hold the space ...


    and to love ...

    i ask the universe, please allow everyone in this world to find their way home as i have ...


    allow everyone to find the entrance to their hearts ...


    and walk in ...

    and go beyond ...


    i know of a place, the truest place i know ...

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    Ultimately it is not enough to know it or be it, per say.

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    Ultimately it is not enough to know it or be it, per say.


    Or : Ultimately, directing your Attention correctly, is a necessary adjustment prior to setting off on a Fruitful journey "Back Home" eh ?

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    Quote Posted by Clear Light (here)
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    Ultimately it is not enough to know it or be it, per say.


    Or : Ultimately, directing your Attention correctly, is a necessary adjustment prior to setting off on a Fruitful journey "Back Home" eh ?
    Or:


    Home and the mind is always trying to play catch up.

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    Ultimately awareness can not be directed according to the Swami.
    Awareness would be aware of the focus of attention but un-moved.
    Awareness is what we are.
    Any thing that we are aware of can not be us.
    And on it goes.
    Smiling.
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    Ultimately awareness can not be directed according to the Swami.
    Awareness would be aware of the focus of attention but un-moved.
    Awareness is what we are.
    Any thing that we are aware of can not be us.
    And on it goes.
    Smiling.
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    Ah, yes indeed, whereas Attention is of the Mind and it can be "directed" !!!

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    Quote Posted by Clear Light (here)

    Published on 25 Jan 2016 - A short but direct pointing instruction from Lama Tsultrim Allione (Length 4m:42s)

    Ah, the "nature of mind" is the SAME for all beings and it is so simple "I" was not able to "accept" it for many years LOL
    Oh, I'm bump'ing this particular video because for those interested it details the "HOW" of it ...

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    Quote .....In a state that is not fabricated it's not, it's not something created...
    I can see why you high-lighted this particular video, Clear Light. The whole dialogue is worth multiple listens while catching various gems within, one of which I high-lighted above.


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    I enjoyed this so much.....


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    Russell Brand is such a gem. We watched the Twelve Steps According to Russell Brand while I was in treatment and it really turned me on to him.



    Finding out he's done even more incredible messages from this thread, I've dove a little deeper into YouTube to find all sorts of great videos from him.

    Anyways, I'm sorry, delete this if it's too off-topic. My brain just kind of...wandered...I tried to follow, close behind. I stayed on topic as best as I could.

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    Delight Thanks for your post---good to see you here.
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    Quote Posted by RogueEllis (here)
    Russell Brand is such a gem. We watched the Twelve Steps According to Russell Brand while I was in treatment and it really turned me on to him.



    Finding out he's done even more incredible messages from this thread, I've dove a little deeper into YouTube to find all sorts of great videos from him.

    Anyways, I'm sorry, delete this if it's too off-topic. My brain just kind of...wandered...I tried to follow, close behind. I stayed on topic as best as I could.
    Its very much on topic Rogue Ellis.
    The twelve steps is one of the greatest gifts to mankind.
    The late Dr David Hawkins, whom the the early parts of this thread influenced through his various books--was there in the early days of AA and I suspect contributed to the formation of the steps.
    It would not be an exaggeration to say AA saved my life.

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    Quote Posted by O Donna (here)
    Quote .....In a state that is not fabricated it's not, it's not something created...
    I can see why you high-lighted this particular video, Clear Light...
    This is also an idea ACIM stresses the most, that we cannot create ourselves.


    I am as God created me.
    Today we continue with the one idea which brings complete salvation; the one statement which makes all forms of temptation powerless; the one thought which renders the ego silent and entirely undone. You are as God created you. The sounds of this world are still, the sights of this world disappear, and all the thoughts that this world ever held are wiped away forever by this one idea.


    It does say, however that we do create like God.

    In your open mind are your creations, in perfect communication born of perfect understanding.
    Could you but accept one of them you would not want anything the world has to offer.
    Everything else would be totally meaningless. God's meaning is incomplete without you, and you are incomplete without your creations.
    It is a joke to think that time can come to circumvent eternity. ~ACIM

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    Thanks as always for your contributions Rich.
    ACIM is an underrated gift to humanity.
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    Tony Parsons • Non-Duality • Munich Nov. 2018

    Tony Parsons speaks about Non-Duality (Advaita) • questions and answers • Audio with photos • Munich Germany Nov. 2018 • www.theopensecret.com

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    All appearances are impermanent
    and can therefore be stripped away,
    whereas your true Self as pure awareness
    is timelessly present and unchanging.
    You can keep removing, sweeping aside,
    discarding appearances until nothing is left
    to remove, and even the very concept
    of removing itself disappears.
    Finally, even the concept of a 'remover'
    gets dissolved and one comes to see
    that That which is beyond all notions
    remains timelessly present.
    That, the unchanging awareness,
    is your Self. This is the Truth.

    ~ Mooji


    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    All appearances are impermanent
    and can therefore be stripped away,
    whereas your true Self as pure awareness
    is timelessly present and unchanging.
    You can keep removing, sweeping aside,
    discarding appearances until nothing is left
    to remove, and even the very concept
    of removing itself disappears.
    Finally, even the concept of a 'remover'
    gets dissolved and one comes to see
    that That which is beyond all notions
    remains timelessly present.
    That, the unchanging awareness,
    is your Self. This is the Truth.

    ~ Mooji


    All description of what is-is falls away.

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