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    Don’t know anything at all.
    Meet everything in the moment as it arises.
    Meet life like this and you are on the road
    to true and pure existence
    —everlasting joy and contentment.
    Then your life is not a series of events,
    but more a quality of being.
    Start with being empty before you make your first step.
    Then, when you make your first step,
    see if you leave this beautiful emptiness or not.
    When you are so grounded in and as the source,
    it won’t matter if you make one, ten or a hundred steps
    —in any direction, they will still be steps made
    in the silence of being. The one who follows my advice
    will find something truly worth discovering:
    Discovering yourself as you truly are
    is discovering life as It truly Is.

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    As always I appreciate your posts Wind --here and Surfing.
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    Your messages are very appreciated too, Chris.
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    I would like to point out that its quite some undertaking for one person to keep this thread going and without the contributions of Wind and several others it would have ceased long ago.
    The answer to "Why its long levity?" is probably in my signature.
    Thanks for all contributions there too.
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    Karma, Destiny And Free Will - Ramana Maharshi - Audiobook - lomakayu

    Well worth listening to.
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    Isn't it 'something' how the consciousness can seem so limiting at one moment and the next it is everything. There are names for something that has that kind of range. The list of names is endless.......
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    Consciousness has no limits--can not be defined--not put in a box constructed by mind.
    Form-formless --both--and neither.
    Restricted/condensed and totality--and nothing describable.

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    I like logic.
    Our essential nature is prior to experience.
    That's undeniable.
    Awareness is consistent--always there --unchanged by that which comes and goes.
    Persona is ever changing and is seen to be influenced by events.
    Anything that is ever changing can not be truth.
    Your essential nature is Self.

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    In the Avadhuta Gita it says:
    'The mind is formless like the sky,
    yet it wears a million faces.
    It appears as images from the past
    or as wordly forms, but it is not the supreme Self.'
    Then it continues further: 'I am One. I am all of this,
    yet I am undifferentiated, beyond all forms.'
    You have to have a certain understanding to be able to say
    that I am both manifest, and also the unmanifest
    and even beyond any category - I am.
    Listen as though you yourself are speaking these words
    and then see what happens inside you.
    Words like these are pushing you back into a place
    from where you cannot divide.
    A place earlier than mathematics,
    earlier than proportions or size,
    a place earlier than change and differences.
    What within you comprehends the utterances of this?
    The ultimate goal of all spiritual striving is
    to come into the full recognition of the timeless Truth
    and to merge our own individualized sense of self
    into the supreme unity or totality.

    ~ Mooji


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    Enlightenment uncontained:

    Levity has it's application

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    Mooji - I mojo or in the world of iphones and ipads comes imojo.




    P.s. It's a wonderful thing to be introduced to the works of Mooji, particularly at certain stages of awareness.
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    WHO AM I GUIDED MEDITATION BY THE WORLD'S GREATEST SAGE

    Who am I Meditation by the World's Greatest Sage.Close your eyes and surrender all the worries to Bhagwan. Focus on the Self Enquiry guides given in the video. Gain clarity with this meditation technique.Watch all your anxieties wash away, and be centered with the One in you.

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    Some interesting information on Kundalini, biblical metaphors and associated biology at the following link,

    http://www.ontheroadtofindout.ca/fire-and-water.htm
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    The coolest thing about enlightenment is that hypothetically, I could know academically EVERYTHING there is to know about enlightenment and still be unenlightened.

    Sometimes I completely get it and then other times I'm left scratching my head; eventually leading to laughing at this crazy thing call I. (I just received a image of 'I' saying to 'me', "it is my pleasure to entertain you" <tipping hat>)

    P.s. What can I say? I decided to take the mind on a 'spin'.
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    Quote Posted by tim (here)
    Some interesting information on Kundalini, biblical metaphors and associated biology at the following link,

    http://www.ontheroadtofindout.ca/fire-and-water.htm
    Thanks Tim
    I spent time on Dr Goels ashram 20 years back ans Kundali was awakened spontaneously. prior to that
    This the preface to one of his books
    They sell for over a £100 now.

    Kundali The Liberating Force --which I have.

    https://www.exoticindia.com/book/det...-views-IDK142/
    Salutations to the Mother Kundalini the Divine Cosmic Energy! You are present in every existing being. You are the supreme knowledge, maya, intellect, memory and delusion. O Devi! You are the mind, the sky, the air, the fire, the water and the earth. Nothing is outside You. You are the Shakti of Shiva. Your Own blissful conscious form gives the shape of the world.

    Kundalini Yoga is the most archaic form of spiritual sadhana practiced by Indian sages and saints to achieve Oneness with the Supreme Reality. Kundalini, the serpent power or mystic fire, is the primordial energy that lies sleeping or in dormant state at the base of the spinal column in all human beings. It is also the cosmic power in individual bodies. It is the spiritual potential of cosmic power. It has no form. But the mind has to follow a particular form in its initial stage. From this grosss form, one can easily understand the subtle formless Kundalini. Prana, ahamkar, buddhi, indriya, mind, nerves and all the five gross elements are all products of Kundalini.

    Kundalini becomes active, when it is awakened. There are many methods to awaken the sleeping Kundalini, like Pranayama, Asanas, Meditation, etc. all such methods may sometimes lead to complications. One may also become a psychic patient. It can also prove fatal as one feels the urge to attempt suicide without any reason.

    To awaken Kundalini Shakti, the safest way is to receive the grace of a blessed Siddha-Guru, who have already merged his identity with the Supreme consciousness, the Shiva, and have become one. When Kundalini Shakti gets active by a Siddha-Guru it automatically starts functioning. Kundalini becomes the master of jiva, whose goal is Shiva, the source of existence.

    In this world, despite all that we achieve, we never feel contented and never attain permanent peace, happiness or bliss. Complete fulfillment is only possible when we realize our own self, when the Kundalini Shakti gets aroused in our bodies and the backward journey towards Shiva gets initiated, till one day, with the mercy of Kundalini, the jiva gets liberated from all the attachments with the world.

    As this Kundalini Shakti is very powerful, no one else other than Shiva can control this Kundalini Shakti, when it is awakened. Under the guidance of a Guru, the movement of the Kundalini is controlled, the six spiritual centres get slowly pierced, the nervous system gets cleansed and the individual becomes transformed completely. He realizes his own Self at the sahasrara, the seventh spiritual centre and becomes One with the Supreme Consciousness, the Shiva. The main principle is that when awakened, Kundalini Shakti ceases to be a static power, which sustains world consciousness. Once set in movement, she is drawn to its other static centre in the thousand petalled lotus (sahasrara), by merging Herself and the jiva with Shiva consciousness or the consciousness of eternal ecstasy beyond the world of form. When Kundalini sleeps a man is awake to the world, when she wakes up, he sleeps, that is, he loses his consciousness of the world and enters his causal body. In this Yoga he passes beyond to the formless consciousness.

    This is the glory of Mother Kundalini who through Her infinite grace and power gently leads the sadhaka from charka to charka and illumines his intellect and makes him realize his identity with the supreme Brahman!

    Sadgurunath Shri Siddeshwar Baba was a God-realised Siddha-Guru. Thousands of seekers got their Kundalini Shakti awakened by His Divine Grace. He used to awaken the Kundalini Shakti by the divine touch of His right thumb at the Trikuti of His devotee and sometimes by His gaze. He had even initiated some sadhakas in their dreams.

    The book on Kundalini enables aspirants and spiritual seekers as well as those interested in the phenomenon of Kundalini to understand the deeper implications of Kundalini awakening.

    The first part of this book contains discourses of Shri Guruji delivered between 14 October 1992 and 15 March 1997 during the Meditation Camps held at Siddheshwar Ashram.

    The second part contains queries from devotees about Kundalini Shakti and the answers/clarifications given by Shri Gurudev.

    The book ends with salutations offered to the Guru who is established in knowledge and power, who grants both worldly prosperity and liberation, who has made it possible to realize Him and by Whom all this world animate and inanimate, movable and immovable, is pervaded.

    I pray to Shri Gurudev and Goddess Mother Kundalini to shower Their blessings on all their loving children, so that Their inner paths open and their search for the final goal, the Supreme Truth, comes to an end, and they achieve birthless and deathless eternity.

    Back of the Book

    Despite being successful in life and having all the material comforts, individuals constantly crave for the feeling of complete fulfillment. This is only possible when we realize our own self and merge with the source of our existence. This journey towards Shiva (the source) only gets initiated with the arousal of the Kundalini, the primordial energy that lies in a dormant state at the base of the spinal column.

    This book is divided into three parts. The first part contains discourses on Kundalini by Shri Siddeshwar Baba delivered between 1992 and 1997 during the meditation camps held at Siddheshwar Ashram. The second part contains clarifications given by Gurudev to the queries raised by his devotees and the third part offers salutations to the 'Guru' who makes the awakening of the Kundalini and the attainment of liberation possible.

    This book will be of immense help to spiritual seekers and psychic sufferers. It will interest the lay readers who will gain solace and peace of mind with the knowledge of Kundalini, the liberating force.
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    Kundalini awakened is a mixed blessing.

    On the one hand there have been times for no apparent reason, when I have been tempted to "Take a long walk off a short pier"
    Other times just filled with joy of living--extreme highs and lows---much more balanced now.

    Ego thinks it can awaken Kundalini then control it---not advisable.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Kundalini awakened is a mixed blessing.

    On the one hand there have been times for no apparent reason, when I have been tempted to "Take a long walk off a short pier"
    Other times just filled with joy of living--extreme highs and lows---much more balanced now.

    Ego thinks it can awaken Kundalini then control it---not advisable.

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    "Yeah, Man!!"

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    Sharing is very important.
    The worst thing is to think "This is only happening to me"
    That leads to all kind of negative thoughts.

    Thankfully the spiritual "happenings" in pursuit of Truth are well documented and of benefit

    Just about everything that can and does happen is to be found shared in a book, video, even on this thread, which is a resource for fellow aspirants.

    Even the shortest post here is of benefit to some one, some where.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Kundalini awakened is a mixed blessing.

    On the one hand there have been times for no apparent reason, when I have been tempted to "Take a long walk off a short pier"
    Other times just filled with joy of living--extreme highs and lows---much more balanced now.

    Ego thinks it can awaken Kundalini then control it---not advisable.

    Chris
    So I was thinking (something I do on occasion ), and the extreme(s) and balanced examples you cite, Chris, are analogous rides. Both can be extrapolated to a circle with each equal distance from an unobserved 'center'. One can choose to think of one being better then the other and yet they are equal distant.

    One could say that jumping out of airplanes (skydiving) and climbing Mount Everest is 'truly living' while another might say gardening and contemplating the miracle of it all as 'truly living'..... and yet........ they are both equal distant.

    So in closing, there is no right or wrong answer to questions like, "What does it mean to truly live?" and other deep questions. But I have found amazing adventure within that rival adventures from with out.
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