Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.

[greybeard]

Ernine its good to see you here again, I missed you.

Im not going to give a long response prompted by your thoughts.

Stephen Wolinsky is an eye opener.

No such thing as spirituality--enormous baggage in that label --you are supposed to be kind and all the other things.

I have put a video of his below and from that you can see where he is coming from--he makes sense to me--not saying he is right but may well be so.

In your True identity you are perfect--improvement is not possible--not required.

Best wishes
Chris

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bkIKXgiKvCM

[greybeard]

Don't Fear Death Or Sickness (Spiritual Growth)
Tom Campbell (NASA Physicist). From a 15+ hour lecture at the University of Calgary.
Published on Dec 21, 2014

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hylwPP1_heA

[greybeard]

What gets posted covers a spectrum so there is seeming contradiction but its all levels and what opens one's door may not open another's.
Basically you cant earn Self-realization--every attempt, the seeking , takes you further away from what you already are.
So trying to act loving kind "spiritual" creates stress and guilt at not being able to match up what you think you should be, when you are already That--even the persona is as You intended it to be.

The other side of it is, the seeming other is under the same "spell" that you are.
Nisargatdatta called it all a mirage--so we are all mirage persons--smiling

Ch

[neutronstar]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Don't Fear Death Or Sickness (Spiritual Growth)
Tom Campbell (NASA Physicist). From a 15+ hour lecture at the University of Calgary.
Published on Dec 21, 2014

Your into Tom as well? I found Tom about 12 years ago. I read Robert Monroe's "Journeys out of the Body" in high school, but never new Tom was a big part of the formation of the Monroe Institute. He can be a little long winded but I like his work.

[joeecho]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
I can never change my moral code now, but if I could, I probably would.

Things like 'moral code' are an example of idols set in stone. They are held up by those that hold them up, they do not do it on their own.

[greybeard]

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Don't Fear Death Or Sickness (Spiritual Growth)
Tom Campbell (NASA Physicist). From a 15+ hour lecture at the University of Calgary.
Published on Dec 21, 2014

Your into Tom as well? I found Tom about 12 years ago. I read Robert Monroe's "Journeys out of the Body" in high school, but never new Tom was a big part of the formation of the Monroe Institute. He can be a little long winded but I like his work.

Good to see you posting here neuronstar
Yes I like what Tom has to say.
As said the thread has a fairly wide spectrum I suppose you could say Science and Spirituality.

Ch

[neutronstar]

Posted by greybeard (here)

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Don't Fear Death Or Sickness (Spiritual Growth)
Tom Campbell (NASA Physicist). From a 15+ hour lecture at the University of Calgary.
Published on Dec 21, 2014

Your into Tom as well? I found Tom about 12 years ago. I read Robert Monroe's "Journeys out of the Body" in high school, but never new Tom was a big part of the formation of the Monroe Institute. He can be a little long winded but I like his work.

Good to see you posting here neuronstar
Yes I like what Tom has to say.
As said the thread has a fairly wide spectrum I suppose you could say Science and Spirituality.

Ch

Once the false paradigm of materialism completely dies. Spirituality will become the highest form of science. They really aren't separate.

[Guish]

Posted by joeecho (here)

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
I can never change my moral code now, but if I could, I probably would.

Things like 'moral code' are an example of idols set in stone. They are held up by those that hold them up, they do not do it on their own.

Moral codes may regulate a man's impulses. Being a batfan, this is one of my favorite scenes. Batman's code of morality which is not to kill controls his temper.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SoggUkEpBRM

[greybeard]

As awareness increases the need for moral codes--rules and regulations drop away.
Right action just seems to happen.
Any ego thought is noticed, but not necessarily acted out.

Chris

[greybeard]

Ted Zeff on Highly Sensitive People - Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview
Published on Nov 1, 2016

Also see https://batgap.com/ted-zeff-highly-se...

Ted Zeff, Ph.D is the author of The Highly Sensitive Person's Survival Guide, The The Highly Sensitive Person's Companion , The Strong, Sensitive Boy, and The Power of Sensitivity. Elaine Aron, Ph.D., author of The Highly Sensitive Person, has written the forwards to his books about sensitive people. Dr. Zeff’s books have sold more than 75,000 copies and have been translated into 8 languages. He has more than 25 years’ experience counseling sensitive children and adults.

Dr. Zeff has also written Raise an Emotionally Healthy Boy: Save Your Son From the Violent Boy Culture, Searching for God Part I and II and Amma: Inspiring Experiences with the Divine Mother.

Dr. Zeff currently teaches workshops and consults internationally on coping strategies for highly sensitive children and adults. He has given presentations in Denmark, Holland, Norway, Israel, and throughout the United States. He has been interviewed about the trait of high sensitivity in the media, such as NBC TV, PBS radio, Psychology Today and the Huffington Post (which received 1.2 million likes).

Ted Zeff Dayalu has also given talks about the books he has written about Amma throughout the United Sates, Israel, Denmark and Holland.

Books: The Highly Sensitive Person's Survival Guide: Essential Skills for Living Well in an Overstimulating World (Step-By-Step Guides) The Highly Sensitive Person's Companion: Daily Exercises for Calming Your Senses in an Overstimulating World by Zeff, Ted (2007) Paperback The Strong, Sensitive Boy The Power of Sensitivity Raise an Emotionally Healthy Boy: Save Your Son From the Violent Boy Culture Amma: Inspiring Experiences with the Divine Mother

Website: drtedzeff.com

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=q0q729cJNzg

[joeecho]

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Don't Fear Death Or Sickness (Spiritual Growth)
Tom Campbell (NASA Physicist). From a 15+ hour lecture at the University of Calgary.
Published on Dec 21, 2014

Your into Tom as well? I found Tom about 12 years ago. I read Robert Monroe's "Journeys out of the Body" in high school, but never new Tom was a big part of the formation of the Monroe Institute. He can be a little long winded but I like his work.

Good to see you posting here neuronstar
Yes I like what Tom has to say.
As said the thread has a fairly wide spectrum I suppose you could say Science and Spirituality.

Ch

Once the false paradigm of materialism completely dies. Spirituality will become the highest form of science. They really aren't separate.

Spiritualism like Materialism takes many forms of which not all is what we would view as externally apparent.

They both point at but intrinsically are not the point.

It's like if someone were to ask me what the Point is, what I would tell them would not be the Point but words and ideas that are pointing.

[joeecho]

Everything is pointing so there is no Point (even what we know as the Point is pointing).

If someone were to ask me to point out the Point and I could perfectly describe in the finest detail such a Point that too would be pointing.

What is the point to pointing you ask? That is a question for the ages. Could in be but remnants of that which is not of this 'pointing'? A reminder not quite fully formed? A silent whisper?

I hear your whisper in the wind old friend, it's good to hear your voice once again.

[greybeard]

Krishnamurti, Meditation and the miracle in Listening

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vD3SbBDQYAw

[greybeard]

Osho describes his 'Enlightenment Experience'
This is an excerpt from an Osho discourse titled "The Discipline of Transcendence" Vol 2, given on 10 Sep 1976, at Pune,India.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Do53trya4jg

[shijo]

i wonder what happened to his 50 rolls royces,his harem and all that land in oregon!i know one shouldnt confuse the message with the messenger,but really.....apart from that youve done a grand job with this thread Chris, thanks,although i dont post much i read avidly.regards Shijo.

[greybeard]

Thanks for your kind comments shijo.
Osho was a comedian --his comment was "Rich people need a guru too"

I dont thing he gave a damn.

Any way as you implied the message was good.

Thanks again
Chris

[greybeard]

Michael A. Rodriguez - Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview

Published on Nov 3, 2016

Also see https://batgap.com/michael-rodriguez/

This is just a story. I put it into words reluctantly. Please do not compare yourself to me or anyone else. Rather, live by your own Light. In reality, there is absolutely no separation between you and me in any way.

I share my direct experience of boundless Awareness, which is our common ground, to all beings who feel called to work with me. My spiritual path began 22 years ago with Zen and subsequently included deep engagements with Vedanta, Sufism, and Christian mysticism.

I hold four academic degrees, including a master’s degree in Comparative Religion from Harvard, taught at the university level for many years, and lived for two years in a monastery. Although I began my journeyless journey with Roshi Philip Kapleau and Toni Packer, my three greatest influences are Nisargadatta, Mooji, and Rupert Spira.

Based on my exposure to their teachings, my spiritual path culminated after I left academia and had an Awakening during a five-year period of purification and alchemical transmutation where I experienced a series of direct insights into non-dual Awareness. In addition to this extraordinarily dynamic purificatory process of the body-mind during which my insights became embodied in and as the Natural State, I also saw my Self in the silence of the mind as the unbroken eternal continuity of Pure Awareness, what Nisargadatta calls the Absolute; this Realization has never left and is the unchanging Reality of all my changing experiences. Seeking fell away, the seeker disappeared, and all questions and doubts vanished.

As I work with people one-on-one and in groups, I avoid any fixed position by flowing freely not only between the paths of wisdom and devotion, but also between the radical non-dual approach that points to "sudden Awakening" and the many yogic/therapeutic paths that emphasize evolution. In addition to drawing from the world’s wisdom traditions, I integrate literature, music, and art into my work to address the full range of human potential.

For those who are interested, a more detailed description of my spiritual unfoldment can be found on my website.

Website: http://BoundlessAwareness.org

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pKL-uT8xH_c

[greybeard]

Its good to see Rick doing an interview with Michael Rodriguez in person rather than by skype.
Very personal and interesting conversation, well worth watching

Michael A. Rodriguez - Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview

[greybeard]

"Ancient Wisdom in Modern Times" - Deepak Chopra in Conversation with Sadhguru

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HD6vGUzuJZ4

Sadhguru's Chicago Book Tour Talk 13th October 2016

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7M49zwyQ9cA

Thanks to Heart2hearth for these two videos

Chris

[greybeard]

One of the best recent interviews on Buddha at the gas pump.

Chris

Posted by greybeard (here)
Michael A. Rodriguez - Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview

Published on Nov 3, 2016

Also see https://batgap.com/michael-rodriguez/

This is just a story. I put it into words reluctantly. Please do not compare yourself to me or anyone else. Rather, live by your own Light. In reality, there is absolutely no separation between you and me in any way.

I share my direct experience of boundless Awareness, which is our common ground, to all beings who feel called to work with me. My spiritual path began 22 years ago with Zen and subsequently included deep engagements with Vedanta, Sufism, and Christian mysticism.

I hold four academic degrees, including a master’s degree in Comparative Religion from Harvard, taught at the university level for many years, and lived for two years in a monastery. Although I began my journeyless journey with Roshi Philip Kapleau and Toni Packer, my three greatest influences are Nisargadatta, Mooji, and Rupert Spira.

Based on my exposure to their teachings, my spiritual path culminated after I left academia and had an Awakening during a five-year period of purification and alchemical transmutation where I experienced a series of direct insights into non-dual Awareness. In addition to this extraordinarily dynamic purificatory process of the body-mind during which my insights became embodied in and as the Natural State, I also saw my Self in the silence of the mind as the unbroken eternal continuity of Pure Awareness, what Nisargadatta calls the Absolute; this Realization has never left and is the unchanging Reality of all my changing experiences. Seeking fell away, the seeker disappeared, and all questions and doubts vanished.

As I work with people one-on-one and in groups, I avoid any fixed position by flowing freely not only between the paths of wisdom and devotion, but also between the radical non-dual approach that points to "sudden Awakening" and the many yogic/therapeutic paths that emphasize evolution. In addition to drawing from the world’s wisdom traditions, I integrate literature, music, and art into my work to address the full range of human potential.

For those who are interested, a more detailed description of my spiritual unfoldment can be found on my website.

Website: http://BoundlessAwareness.org

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pKL-uT8xH_c