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    I love you skipping in with Pooh and Piglet, Skippy.
    Brings back reading in bed under the blanket with a torch.
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    Great thread Greybeard. Keep up the good work Pooh!

    My very best wishes to you Chris.

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    Wind sent me this----
    Eckhart Tolle on face book.

    Quote Dear Friends,

    The philosopher Epictetus (AD55-135) wrote:

    "People are not disturbed by things, but by the view they take of things."

    If you look closely, you will find that by far the greater part of any unhappiness in you is created not by situations, but by what your mind is saying about them. It's created by the self-talk in your head. Such dysfunctional thinking strengthens the ego, but it weakens you. How to end it? Meet situations and people without judgment. Don't indulge in mental movies about past and future. Give your fullest attention to the present moment without mentally labeling it. This is the arising of Presence, a new state of consciousness that frees your mind from its old conditioning. This new consciousness will give rise to a new world.

    With love
    Eckhart.


    Thanks Wind
    I dont follow face book or twitter but the style of quote is classic Eckhart.
    I posted recently a David Sereda video =its long but he explains singularity as a "place"where no force is opposing or resisting another--everything is Source.
    Now thats true of Earth now but the ego has created duality so there is resistance and opposition.
    When a high enough % of collective consciousness applies what is pointed to by Eckhart we will have New Earth.
    Its down to us.

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    This may or may not be helpful.

    From a deep spiritual teaching point of view there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that in the enlightened state there is to time, no space, no linear time, therefore no sequence, everything (past present future) happened at the same eternal moment. The human mind, in order to experience, puts a seeming cause and affect and therefore sequence to everything.
    The unenlightened cant get this, the mind cant, there is no reference point for it.

    The enlightened state is testified to be non-locational-- where ever intention is focused that where the "experience" is.
    In essence everything is of the same One. The I am That is everywhere.
    The "I am That" is the space in which everything including the human experience occurs.
    Within the "I am That" is contained everything and I am contained in everything--there is only One self and that Self is within every stone blade of grass the sparrow the Sun the Cosmos all One entity expressing It Self in billions of ways, each way unique.

    The Mystic can truthfully say--I am the Totality all of it.

    So Chris is the Ocean and the wave and so is everything else--the smallest atom within me which is 99.5% empty space (Dark Matter= God) contains absolutely everything---what can be separate from One without a second?

    So that's my current understanding--- Im not saying Im right.

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    Bruce Lipton talking about the future of the human race.



    Published on 24 Mar 2013

    Bruce H. Lipton, PhD is an internationally recognized leader in bridging science and spirit. Stem cell biologist, bestselling author of The Biology of Belief and recipient of the 2009 Goi Peace Award, he has been a guest speaker on hundreds of TV and radio shows, as well as keynote presenter for national and international conferences.

    Dr. Lipton began his scientific career as a cell biologist. He received his Ph.D. Degree from the University of Virginia at Charlottesville before joining the Department of Anatomy at the University of Wisconsin's School of Medicine in 1973. Dr. Lipton's research on muscular dystrophy, studies employing cloned human stem cells, focused upon the molecular mechanisms controlling cell behavior. An experimental tissue transplantation technique developed by Dr. Lipton and colleague Dr. Ed Schultz and published in the journal Science was subsequently employed as a novel form of human genetic engineering.http://www.brucelipton.com/



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    Now who wouldn't like Alan Watts?



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    Eckhart Tolle speaks at Google.
    Well that's something
    Chris

    Ps Eckhart has a suit and tie ---well I never.


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    Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum. I have been seeking self realization for the last 16 years, being misled most of this time. I have read Eckhart Tolle, listened to Papaji, Mooji, Jonathan Adampants and so on.... I have tried Christianity but it didn't resonate with me. I have had brief moments of clarity and a few synchronistic events in my life but most of my searching has left me highly depressed and I became addicted to drugs to escape throughout my life. I always end up back at these questions: Who am I, What is all this and What am I doing here? I want to find my way back home more than anything. Currently I am searching but it seems like everytime I feel some progress I am met with a lot of resistance: physical fatigue, mental cloudiness and noise. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Posted by dsanders1980 (here)
    Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum. I have been seeking self realization for the last 16 years, being misled most of this time. I have read Eckhart Tolle, listened to Papaji, Mooji, Jonathan Adampants and so on.... I have tried Christianity but it didn't resonate with me. I have had brief moments of clarity and a few synchronistic events in my life but most of my searching has left me highly depressed and I became addicted to drugs to escape throughout my life. I always end up back at these questions: Who am I, What is all this and What am I doing here? I want to find my way back home more than anything. Currently I am searching but it seems like everytime I feel some progress I am met with a lot of resistance: physical fatigue, mental cloudiness and noise. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Hello dsanders1980
    Join the club.
    I think most serious aspirants on the path of enlightenment, my self included, will identify with what you have posted.
    Apart from including those you have mentioned Adyashanti is helpful---his talks can be found on piratebay
    also here.
    http://www.adyashanti.org/

    Basically he was forced to the realisation that he could not make enlightenment happen----all the years of study under a Zen Master had not brought about the desired state.

    The eventual realisation was that the very act of trying prevented it from occurring--it was as though the trying was a denial of the state being truly what you already are in your essence.
    So its a question of surrender to what is---letting go--that does not mean doing nothing--obstacles are to be removed but there is a knowing that all in God's time, realisation will happen--its your destiny or you would not be on the path at all.
    My search stated over thirty years ago and many a time I felt exactly like you but that passed.
    Im not intense about it now but never the less effort to remove obstacles is made daily.
    These obstacles are surrendered rather than determined will power.
    Best wishes Chris
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    Listening to Adya

    Everything is ok when you walk into Satsang---you have let go of you.

    Everything is allowed to be.

    One challenge is that the me has to be centre stage-- it maintains that through believing its special.

    In my struggle I am unique, separate and special.

    No one has it as hard as me, I stand out, im separate unique and special.

    So the struggle is let go of-- even struggling is not resisted, just acknowledged.

    Its a so what !!!--- that's acceptance.

    The ego hates to be told that it is not unique and special.

    One with all that is---you must be joking.

    When Im miserable there is a sense of security, I know who I am.
    The me is strengthened.
    Only the ego can feel misery and unhappiness only the ego takes everything personally.
    No self/me no problem

    Love is the end of unhappiness.

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    Hello dsanders, welcome.

    Quote Posted by dsanders1980 (here)
    Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum. I have been seeking self realization for the last 16 years, being misled most of this time.
    how so?

    Quote I have read Eckhart Tolle, listened to Papaji, Mooji, Jonathan Adampants and so on.... I have tried Christianity but it didn't resonate with me. I have had brief moments of clarity and a few synchronistic events in my life but most of my searching has left me highly depressed and I became addicted to drugs to escape throughout my life. I always end up back at these questions: Who am I, What is all this and What am I doing here? I want to find my way back home more than anything.
    happy to hear that.
    I believe if that is what you want the most then you cannot fail.


    Quote Currently I am searching but it seems like everytime I feel some progress I am met with a lot of resistance: physical fatigue, mental cloudiness and noise.
    I know this well, for me there was so much doubt because I was wondering if I was making any progress at all, I had bliss often, it had no value to me because I always fell back into suffering. I thought I am not interested in bliss itself, I only wanted to get out of suffering.
    Some day much identification with thought started to drop fairly suddenly over the course of a month or so and with that most suffering did too (but I still get caught up in stories sometimes).
    Suffering is only a memory (story) when we identify with it we suffer.

    Quote Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    I think if you are sincere and have some trust then you will be guided to the right things that you need for you next steps. That's my experience.

    some things that helped me... take what you feel is right for you:

    Byron Katie,
    did a few months of ''The Work'' and got a glimpse of thoughts/attitude being the cause and not the circumstances

    lester-levenson-story.pdf (there is an ad for 'the release technique' don't bother)
    Lester Levensons story lead me to find out what Love is, I tried to copy him and soon I could change my feelings to Love it gave me a lot of healing.
    I believe Love wants to do everything for us, its Its nature.

    Also Lester Levenson said that a question with a strong interest to get the answer is very effective because we get absorbed into it and all other thoughts drop away if our interest is strong, then we can see the answer that was always there. I think that helps me a lot too, asking questions that I am interested in, without interest there is no motivation.

    more of Lester:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ester-Levenson



    Guidance from Christ
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...2-Christ-s-Way

    Communication
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rson-is-saying

    Btw, what kind of meditation do you do?

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    I have that very picture of Ramana looking at me just now.
    The love just flows from it.
    When he was dying his Devotees were most concerned about him leaving.
    He said more or less "Where else could I go?"

    A couple of my friends recently visited his Ashram and The Mountain---the energy is of course still there.

    Thanks Tim for just being there.

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    Anthony de mello calling us to wake up.
    He has some sense of humour.
    One of my first reads was Awareness written by him.
    There are a few videos following on from this on u tube.

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    Gangaji is of the linage of Ramana Marharshi through her teacher Papaji,
    She speaks of ignorance.
    In a split second there is an opportunity to realise the truth of your self.

    A lot of peace within this video.

    I saw her at The Findhorn Foundation several years ago and the love that comes from her is palpable.

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    Just started to listen to Gangaji. Her energy is calm and loving, I instantly sensed it. Thanks for the recommendation, Chris.
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    12 2012 Mayan Prophecy and the Shift of the Ages FREE MOVIE

    Once you get past the usual opening disaster part it get really interesting.
    Scientific research on the I Ching and much more---well worth taking the time to watch.
    Happy Easter Sunday to You.
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    Hello all. I'm a new member. Great to see a subforum dedicated to the discussion of matters relating to spirituality & consciousness.

    I spent most of my early childhood and then my adult life being a victim of my thoughts and a victim of my mind. I identified with whatever my mind (brain) threw at me. If I had depressed thoughts I just as well assumed I was a depressed person and that that was my nature/identity. My greatest victory in life was finally arriving at the realization that my true nature and identity is not that of the thoughts that my mind/brain/ego would generate. I slowly shifted my consciousness to internalizing a spiritual-based nature or identity and this helped me draw conscious energy away from my ego/mind/brain. This ultimately led to my conscious liberation. I control my mind (brain) now, it no longer has control over my conscious state.

    It is nice to see some posters sharing the work of Eckhart Tolle because his book (The Power Of Now) played an important role in my journey in helping me to realize that there are different elements within our system that contribute to our conscious state. His conceptualization of the 'ego' as a formidable and often 'opposing' force to our well-being really helped me understand the nature of my conscious state better - which enabled me to regain control over it.


    Along these lines and this theme of there being different elements or 'forces' that contribute to our conscious state that we experience, I wanted to share this fascinating article and research with you about the human HEART. Basically doctors/researchers have studied the heart and found that it is much more than an organ that pumps blood, it contains it's own network of neurons (40,000 of them) and is so sophisticated and complex in its functioning that it acts as its own 'mini brain' within the human body:

    http://www.heartmath.org/research/sc...roduction.html
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    "After extensive research, one of the early pioneers in neurocardiology, Dr. J. Andrew Armour, introduced the concept of a functional "heart brain" in 1991. His work revealed that the heart has a complex intrinsic nervous system that is sufficiently sophisticated to qualify as a "little brain" in its own right. The heart’s brain is an intricate network of several types of neurons, neurotransmitters, proteins and support cells like those found in the brain proper. Its elaborate circuitry enables it to act independently of the cranial brain – to learn, remember, and even feel and sense."
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    "In our internal environment many different organs and systems contribute to the patterns that ultimately determine our emotional experience. However, research has illuminated that the heart plays a particularly important role. The heart is the most powerful generator of rhythmic information patterns in the human body. As we saw earlier, it functions as sophisticated information encoding and processing center, and possesses a far more developed communication system with the brain than do most of the body’s major organs. With every beat, the heart not only pumps blood, but also transmits complex patterns of neurological, hormonal, pressure and electromagnetic information to the brain and through-out the body. As a critical nodal point in many of the body’s interacting systems, the heart is uniquely positioned as a powerful entry point into the communication network that connects body, mind, emotions and spirit."
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    I recommend anyone who is interested in this material/subject matter to at least spend 5-10 minutes reading through the Introduction on that first page contained at the link. The research shared in that article is backed up by real science and sourced accordingly.

    I feel this article may help other individuals who are or have been struggling with the influence of their mind/ego to better understand that their physical brain is not the only source that affects/influences our consciousness and that the HEART plays a much more important and vital role in regulating their conscious state. The brain/mind is just a tool of the physical body and we can draw energy away from it and re-direct that energy to our HEART to promote an overall healthier state of being.

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    Welcome welcome welcome Wolfgaze.
    Thanks for your contribution, which is much appreciated.
    Keep it coming.

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